Space Karen is the real parasite. He is a billionaire at the expense of his workers, at the expense of taxpayers, at the expense of everyone else. There is no reason for someone to become that rich if they weren't bilking eveyone else of everything they can get, leaving little to nothing for others to live on...
Billionaires are the parasite class. They feed off the work of others, growing their wealth while workers suffer more and more. That's the definition of a parasite.
The guy got his money from Daddy, and continues to get money from the government without paying enough taxes. He's made his money off of other people's work and pretended it's his own. And he's calling other people parasites? What a tool.
The ultra rich should be extremely careful, because apparently they have difficulties to grasp the consequences of the ratio of them and the rest of the world that are pissed at them
yeh. Parasites who contributed to Social Security for their entire lives so they could have a secure retirement. How else do you make "parasites"? You don't pay your employees enough to even eat, so they depend on government programs like SNAP and Medicaid for basic food and health needs. You make billions off of their labor by stealing the money they earn. Now who's the parasite? Isn't that how tapeworms operate?
In HIGHSCHOOL econ we learned about economic participation, and how disabled people having an income from the govt. was still good for the economy because it maintained participation. Even if you are a slime who doesn't think people deserve food and housing, you don't even understand the function of the economy?
This is also something a lot of people do not understand about why vaccines are so critical. In case of covid19 the mortality rate was shrugged of by certain people, who clearly fail to understand that for every death there are about ten people who will become seriously ill for a long time, possibly for the rest of their lives. Other (preventable) diseases can be far worse. Fucking idiots
Reasonable Republicans need to grow a spine and realize their party has been co-opted by people who will destroy them too eventually... once they've served their purpose they will be discarded like trash. I'm sick and tired of hearing about how Republicans prove repeatedly that they don't care about Americaans, they only care about money and power and yet people still vote for and support them.
There's a very small number still in the house who have been beaten into submission and who have had their jobs threatened if they don't tow the party line. Those ones have spines like jellyfish though and if they truly cared even a little about people (even if it's just their Republican friends and families) they should grow up and get a spine.
13 billion in government contracts in the last 5 years (that we know about) and this mother fucker has the nerves to say that single moms who get food stamps are parasites? And people voted for this? Fuck each and every Trump supporter to the very depths of their rotten, misguided, racist, misogynist core. Keep wearing those read hats so we know where to aim.
I think that's what he was trying to imply. He's trying to make it sound like only the 10% benefit from federal programs. Anyone smart enough will understand that's total bullshit, but most of his supporters sadly aren't "smart enough".
That use is consistent with Proudhon et al. and is inconsistent with the dominant use from the early 20th century as an antisemitic raciast slur, one that cannot be disentangled in good faith from Hitler's enthusiastic adoption of it. We can be confident of one thing: Elon is neither anti-capitalist nor anti-wealth. His use is therefore not Proudhon's sterotyping, but Hitler's dehumanizing.
Bingo. In this day and age, there's no reason for anybody to be poor - we have more than enough resources and space for everyone. We shouldn't even have economic castes at all anymore. Distribution logistics may be another matter, but we're not even attempting that in lieu of letting billionaires hoover up whatever they want and crush everyone else underfoot.
Agreed. Hawk is also opening parks around the world.
I think it's not only how you gain wealth, but what you do with your wealth once you have it. Gates is giving a lot away now. He may be redeemable. Chuck Feeney gave almost all of his away. Cuban is pushing back some, and set up his pharmacy to help those who can't otherwise afford regularly-priced medications.
There are too many billionaires solely focused on amassing a horde and fuck everybody else.
Yeah i read that meme totally different. I saw it as satire taking a jab at elon, and those rich fuckers, and he retweets it and doubles down? Holy shit, these people are out of touch
All wealth comes from the poor. They pay more for everything. Interest rates are higher, they need loans because they can't buy things, buying money orders, cashing check cost them, it's the poor that rent and lease, they don't have extra money to invest, they can't afford to save money by buying in bulk, unhealthy foods are cheaper leading to more medical costs, insurance rates, public transportation, and their are billions more poor then rich people. 1 mil seconds =11 days 1 billion =31.7 yrs.
The rich own the company, but the poor work at the company and make the products, and they are also the ones buying them. A rich guy will have a product, but the poor will have billions of the product. Poor people are easier to control and will do more for less. Check advance loans , late fees, overdraft fees, 1/4 of US citizens can afford to keep a min. balance so they don't have bank accounts. The poor pay more for everything while the rich pay less and make more on everything.
Because she has this lovely dovey dreamy face in it, that you have when you are totally in love and ignore the fact that the center of attention is a walking burning shit pile of a red flag.
Careful not to consider someone doing something blatantly to be doing more than everyone else doing it discreetly.
He's a drop in the ocean compared with the oil boys... Their ability is so unrivalled that they've made the USA a one party state (that occasionally changes the colours of its signage) for the last half century at least, and people get locked up if they even try to protest that reality, let alone do anything effective to change it.
Just as TFG referring to himself as a great businessman, when all he does is bankrupt them, and avoid paying taxes on his properties. It's why they are such a match...
He was a shitty software dev whose original X.com code had massive flaws that allowed anyone to move money out of an account if they knew the account number.
He didn’t do any of the engineering work at SpaceX, his role there is stage-managed and he’s kept well away from the real work.
He didn’t create Tesla, he wasn’t a Tesla “founder”; he bought it, and pushed out the *real* founders in the process.
The only real achievement he’s ever had is to be born into wealth & privilege.
Even the billionaires who *actually do* have some about of engineering “talent” only got where they are because of wealth & privilege.
Gates and Zuckerberg dropped out of college, but the college they dropped out of was *Harvard*.
The big IBM deal which made Gates and Microsoft a household name wouldn’t have happened if his mother wasn’t on IBM’s board; she used her position to influence the board into taking “MicroSoft’s” offer.
You guys know we have Google right? You could just search the thing you've heard repeated over and over on social media or you can turn off your brain and go hurr durr Tesla bad. Your call I guess. Pretty fucking embarrassing to just be out here repeating misinformation tho.
Don't worry. You weren't really before, and very soon you won't even be pretending to. But do explain again how a supposedly profitable company not paying taxes on those profits isn't a drain on those government funds that could hypothetically be used to fight climate change.
So the replace the crappy rusty steel on "Cybertrucks" with light armor, paint them military camo and call it a day. And they can do so really fast because noone else wants to buy that crap to begin with.
The joy of disenfanchising a whole generation or two with low wages and no opportunities and then turning around and labeling them 'the parasite class' for not keeping up with the rich and entitled. Also, all the people on social security paid into that fund with their wages. They actually fucking pay their taxes and paid for this.
Wealthy cunts thinking poor people are parasite? Nothing new, it comes with the job, even if it is highly hypocritical. The rich deserve to die, as they're the ultimate parasite. (NSFW to please the fragile mods)
Wealthy counts don't give them a single thought. Their electorate must think that they're parasites, because they might realize who the parasite actually is.
Those "parasites" built a world where he could make his unbelievable fortune. He recognizes that they exist but does nothing to help. No charity, no philanthropy, none of his vast wealth goes to uplifting, only to pull the ladder up behind him.
I'd roll out the increasingly relevant "every accusation" quote, but they have mentally limboed under the bar and genuinely seem to consider themselves self made. It really is like being called a bloodsucker by a jabba sized tick.
More likely to me is that the word parasite was just used against both scapegoats the way its also been used against countless other scapegoats throughout history.
If I call a jew a cunt... That doesn't make 'calling someone a cunt' antisemitic.
It might have been antisemitism when I called the jew a cunt, but not when I call anyone else a cunt.
Did you not read the Wikipedia article that was just posted. It was used specifically for the Jewish people and was then used later on by the Nazis to justify their hatred of the Jews. And now it's being used by the Republican Nazi party to describe anyone that isn't white American.
I'm not sure why all the downvotes. I had no idea this term was used by Nazi in this way. And as such if I we're to call someone a parasite I would have no context of the word outside of it's literal definition. I'm not defending musk, he's a cunt, but I feel like too often we go around assuming everyone knows all the same things we do. I'm happy to have learned something today
It might be partly my first line. I fucked up there. Writing it like that implies I think all Jews have to be zionists and of course that's not the case. It was dumb and I apologise for that bit entirely!
.. But I think the main part is that the term antisemitism has been so effectively weaponised into the beginning and the end of all arguments regarding gaza lately, that people feel safer just agreeing that everything is antisemitism rather than risk being called an antisemite.
True, but nazi rhetoric did refer to the Jewish people as parasites specifically, similar to the way the gop currently attacks immigrants as a drain on resources that don’t contribute etc, obvious bigoted lies, but effective for justification of atrocities all the same
It did. I've explained this in other replies if you're interested. Tldr 'all the things in this image that are blue are cars' does not mean that 'all the cars in this image are blue'.
Maybe I'm being pedantic, but understanding how terms are confused helps them from being used against you later
Yes, anti-Semitic Zionists. It's not at all unusual, and very obviously they're people who want Jewish people to leave their country and go away to Israel for good.
Yes, the hard right in the US is, in general, both Zionist and antisemitic. They want Jews in their proper place - their own ethnostate in the Levant, projecting American power and holding back the savage brown hordes - and not in America, where they are presumed to be secretly controlling everything for nefarious purposes.
Thank you. You are 100% spot on. I fucked up with that first line and apologise completely! It implies I think all Jews are zionists, and thats clearly not the case! They have been some of the loudest antizionist voices of the last year and a half!
Well the vast majority of Jews *are* Zionists, but that word is often used as it it means "psycho Nazi monster who loves the idea of killing Palestinian children", when actually all it means is that they support the existence of Israel. Jewish people can be strongly critical of Israel, but if they want it to carry on existing, then technically they're Zionists.
But it's been conflated with the most hardline, right-wing Zionists, who are indeed racist psychos.
blackelf
Musk is literary the NR.1 parasite of the human race!
And we should get rid of evil parasites!
TheCarolingian
I always think of the rich, tax-dodging folks as the parasite class...
speeltime
Time to France it up like back in the good ol days.
Gabelvampir
Parasite class? Is that a new term for billionaires?
TohmaytohTohmahtoh
Space Karen is the real parasite. He is a billionaire at the expense of his workers, at the expense of taxpayers, at the expense of everyone else. There is no reason for someone to become that rich if they weren't bilking eveyone else of everything they can get, leaving little to nothing for others to live on...
withcheeseplease
Being concerned with that what does not necessarily affect you is called... EMPATHY
lapisknight
I've never heard the term "parasite class" until just now and I gotta say I immediately thought it was referring to billionaires.
spitfires2000
We all know how that movie ends.
DrKonrad
Billionaires are the parasite class. They feed off the work of others, growing their wealth while workers suffer more and more. That's the definition of a parasite.
wylkyn
The guy got his money from Daddy, and continues to get money from the government without paying enough taxes. He's made his money off of other people's work and pretended it's his own. And he's calling other people parasites? What a tool.
makeamericasmartagain9000
The ultra rich should be extremely careful, because apparently they have difficulties to grasp the consequences of the ratio of them and the rest of the world that are pissed at them
DonalDangerMaher
The ultra rich are the parasites hoovering up vast resources while society at large, the host that sustains them, suffers.
NozzleBozzle
What's worse, is he got wealthy primarily from money from the government/taxpayer. As did most of the super rich
whereismymind86
Well, more wealthy, his initial wealth came from an emerald mine stolen from and worked by black South Africans during apartheid
whereismymind86
Which is to say Elon has ALWAYS been a Nazi
VelvetWarhol
rubypilgrim
yeh. Parasites who contributed to Social Security for their entire lives so they could have a secure retirement. How else do you make "parasites"? You don't pay your employees enough to even eat, so they depend on government programs like SNAP and Medicaid for basic food and health needs. You make billions off of their labor by stealing the money they earn. Now who's the parasite? Isn't that how tapeworms operate?
CorgisButtsDriveMeNuts
valkrez
In HIGHSCHOOL econ we learned about economic participation, and how disabled people having an income from the govt. was still good for the economy because it maintained participation. Even if you are a slime who doesn't think people deserve food and housing, you don't even understand the function of the economy?
iLoveItWhenMyFingersSmellLikePussy
This is also something a lot of people do not understand about why vaccines are so critical. In case of covid19 the mortality rate was shrugged of by certain people, who clearly fail to understand that for every death there are about ten people who will become seriously ill for a long time, possibly for the rest of their lives. Other (preventable) diseases can be far worse. Fucking idiots
pleaseacknowledgethecat
He’s the parasite
whereismymind86
Every accusation is a confession
beerkrump
Tax the rich until there are no more rich.
SquiggleSquaggleSqwoo
Kill Elon Musk.
StellarJay77
Reasonable Republicans need to grow a spine and realize their party has been co-opted by people who will destroy them too eventually... once they've served their purpose they will be discarded like trash. I'm sick and tired of hearing about how Republicans prove repeatedly that they don't care about Americaans, they only care about money and power and yet people still vote for and support them.
whereismymind86
Reasonable republicans were run out of the party years ago, it’s nazis all the way down now
StellarJay77
There's a very small number still in the house who have been beaten into submission and who have had their jobs threatened if they don't tow the party line. Those ones have spines like jellyfish though and if they truly cared even a little about people (even if it's just their Republican friends and families) they should grow up and get a spine.
slinkiisu
Elon needs a visit with a short rope.
ladyfrost216
A short drop and a quick stop.
whereismymind86
I mean…staging a coup is like…treason, which does carry the death penalty, you might get your wish in a few years
Sodaguru
Now this! It feels like Elon is the Govt.
Syxcfaq
13 billion in government contracts in the last 5 years (that we know about) and this mother fucker has the nerves to say that single moms who get food stamps are parasites? And people voted for this? Fuck each and every Trump supporter to the very depths of their rotten, misguided, racist, misogynist core. Keep wearing those read hats so we know where to aim.
Mehlbox
Seems like a common strategy for trump and musk, hard to tell which one's product is more overpriced...
https://eu.oklahoman.com/story/news/2024/10/04/donald-trump-supported-bible-one-of-few-that-meets-ryan-walters-criteria-for-ok-classrooms/75510021007/
SonnyVabitch
Congresswoman Becca Balint (D), Vermont.
WoopDeFrickenDoo
must something in the water in Vermont
Kaedraar
AttilaTheHungover
The rich are the parasite class, their wealth comes from exploiting the poor.
Redser
*THIS 100%
Futuron
Yep. Going to say the same thing.
ManguPixel
I think that's what he was trying to imply. He's trying to make it sound like only the 10% benefit from federal programs. Anyone smart enough will understand that's total bullshit, but most of his supporters sadly aren't "smart enough".
Grimmrog
no no, they are the top of the food chain, this is just natural and how it is to be - rich people
gesel
That use is consistent with Proudhon et al. and is inconsistent with the dominant use from the early 20th century as an antisemitic raciast slur, one that cannot be disentangled in good faith from Hitler's enthusiastic adoption of it. We can be confident of one thing: Elon is neither anti-capitalist nor anti-wealth. His use is therefore not Proudhon's sterotyping, but Hitler's dehumanizing.
Quebeker
The poor that they create by hording a large part of the fruits of the poor labor
MerriMod
Bingo. In this day and age, there's no reason for anybody to be poor - we have more than enough resources and space for everyone. We shouldn't even have economic castes at all anymore. Distribution logistics may be another matter, but we're not even attempting that in lieu of letting billionaires hoover up whatever they want and crush everyone else underfoot.
IxnayOnTheOttenRay
I mean, Tony Hawk is rich. There are others. Not all wealth is ill begotten.
DonL9
Agreed. Hawk is also opening parks around the world.
I think it's not only how you gain wealth, but what you do with your wealth once you have it. Gates is giving a lot away now. He may be redeemable. Chuck Feeney gave almost all of his away. Cuban is pushing back some, and set up his pharmacy to help those who can't otherwise afford regularly-priced medications.
There are too many billionaires solely focused on amassing a horde and fuck everybody else.
IxnayOnTheOttenRay
True dat
registeredpsycho
Their wealth also comes from taxpayers.
70ikketje2000
Which makes them double parasites!
ItsACrazyWorld
If only the poor realized that we out number them 1000000 to 1. However that lesson never seems to be learned.
StarmineRendezvous
SnoopyDancing
A Bugs's Life
StarmineRendezvous
As you wish.
Z0op
Yeah i read that meme totally different. I saw it as satire taking a jab at elon, and those rich fuckers, and he retweets it and doubles down? Holy shit, these people are out of touch
senseicombs
All wealth comes from the poor. They pay more for everything. Interest rates are higher, they need loans because they can't buy things, buying money orders, cashing check cost them, it's the poor that rent and lease, they don't have extra money to invest, they can't afford to save money by buying in bulk, unhealthy foods are cheaper leading to more medical costs, insurance rates, public transportation, and their are billions more poor then rich people. 1 mil seconds =11 days 1 billion =31.7 yrs.
senseicombs
The rich own the company, but the poor work at the company and make the products, and they are also the ones buying them. A rich guy will have a product, but the poor will have billions of the product. Poor people are easier to control and will do more for less. Check advance loans , late fees, overdraft fees, 1/4 of US citizens can afford to keep a min. balance so they don't have bank accounts. The poor pay more for everything while the rich pay less and make more on everything.
PuchMaxi
But why a picture of Sydney Sweeney from the First We Feast's show: Hot Ones
therecanNEVERbeTMI
Because she has this lovely dovey dreamy face in it, that you have when you are totally in love and ignore the fact that the center of attention is a walking burning shit pile of a red flag.
PuchMaxi
Thanks for your reply!
trinxter
How ironic. Tesla is the prime example: every bit of their profit is through federal programs, as in every country where they are successful.
DOcelot1
Ding, ding, ding. He's a fund raiser. America has just given him the keys to the treasury, and he is plundering it as fast as is inhumanly possible
TheSilverSeraph
I’ve long being convinced that the only “genius” thing about Musk is his unrivaled ability to get government handouts across the whole world
Zamm005
Careful not to consider someone doing something blatantly to be doing more than everyone else doing it discreetly.
He's a drop in the ocean compared with the oil boys... Their ability is so unrivalled that they've made the USA a one party state (that occasionally changes the colours of its signage) for the last half century at least, and people get locked up if they even try to protest that reality, let alone do anything effective to change it.
Making a big noise doesn't mean you're the best
zelda633000
Just as TFG referring to himself as a great businessman, when all he does is bankrupt them, and avoid paying taxes on his properties. It's why they are such a match...
blcollier
He was a shitty software dev whose original X.com code had massive flaws that allowed anyone to move money out of an account if they knew the account number.
He didn’t do any of the engineering work at SpaceX, his role there is stage-managed and he’s kept well away from the real work.
He didn’t create Tesla, he wasn’t a Tesla “founder”; he bought it, and pushed out the *real* founders in the process.
The only real achievement he’s ever had is to be born into wealth & privilege.
That’s it.
blcollier
Even the billionaires who *actually do* have some about of engineering “talent” only got where they are because of wealth & privilege.
Gates and Zuckerberg dropped out of college, but the college they dropped out of was *Harvard*.
The big IBM deal which made Gates and Microsoft a household name wouldn’t have happened if his mother wasn’t on IBM’s board; she used her position to influence the board into taking “MicroSoft’s” offer.
TheWhiteBarry
You guys know we have Google right? You could just search the thing you've heard repeated over and over on social media or you can turn off your brain and go hurr durr Tesla bad. Your call I guess. Pretty fucking embarrassing to just be out here repeating misinformation tho.
khora
TheWhiteBarry
Most days lol but I see you out there doing a lot of the same and that's what I appreciates about you
vindik8or
How much federal taxes did Tesla pay last year? How much federal services did they suck up while not contributing? There's your real parasite.
TheWhiteBarry
Yeah you're right we shouldn't be using government money to solve climate change 🙄
vindik8or
Don't worry. You weren't really before, and very soon you won't even be pretending to. But do explain again how a supposedly profitable company not paying taxes on those profits isn't a drain on those government funds that could hypothetically be used to fight climate change.
TheWhiteBarry
Well you see gas cars burn these things called fossil fuels... Fuck it you're SO not worth it
MrSnuffleupagus172
https://time.com/7221880/state-department-2025-procurement-forecast-tesla-armored-electric-vehicles-musk/
Lance4lot
So the replace the crappy rusty steel on "Cybertrucks" with light armor, paint them military camo and call it a day. And they can do so really fast because noone else wants to buy that crap to begin with.
RealityInflicted
Tesla for the military, when you absotively want to make sure to cut spending on the V. A.
The dead require no benefits.
MrSnuffleupagus172
It’s the state department, not the department of defense. It presumably would be for transporting senior state dept officials and foreign dignitaries.
WrathOfJigglypuff
The joy of disenfanchising a whole generation or two with low wages and no opportunities and then turning around and labeling them 'the parasite class' for not keeping up with the rich and entitled. Also, all the people on social security paid into that fund with their wages. They actually fucking pay their taxes and paid for this.
CAWriter
Right? Like, where does he think the federal government’s money comes from?
WrathOfJigglypuff
It sure as shit doesn't come from billionaires who don't pay any taxes!
BackToTheOriginalUsername
Wealthy cunts thinking poor people are parasite? Nothing new, it comes with the job, even if it is highly hypocritical.
The rich deserve to die, as they're the ultimate parasite.
(NSFW to please the fragile mods)
Wor3q
Wealthy counts don't give them a single thought.
Their electorate must think that they're parasites, because they might realize who the parasite actually is.
Zinsurin
Those "parasites" built a world where he could make his unbelievable fortune. He recognizes that they exist but does nothing to help. No charity, no philanthropy, none of his vast wealth goes to uplifting, only to pull the ladder up behind him.
Pishposhbingbong
I'd roll out the increasingly relevant "every accusation" quote, but they have mentally limboed under the bar and genuinely seem to consider themselves self made. It really is like being called a bloodsucker by a jabba sized tick.
tenkindsofawesome
Wylf
That term is, of course, also steeped in antisemitism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_parasite Because he is a Nazi.
LincLoud
socraticmeathead
Well, him being a Nazi would sure explain the Nazi salute.
Narwhilian
whereismymind86
That’s pretty undeniable at this point
ChrishCat
Who knew
lostlittletimeonthis
It's like his obsession with the letter X has a root on some symbol or something
graehall
the number for X in the ascii character library is 88, no joke
muzzmuzzle
Well, I learned something today! Thank you!
Legomaniac91
Karma1970
Just another dog whistle from them.
EmptyHouseBurglar
Increasingly these are just whistles.
RogueLanguageModel
i dont think that was about jews more than it was about, say, tapeworms
Lovingimpaler
Your first three words sum you up.
RogueLanguageModel
3/10
321plum
I am disappointed in both of us. You need to explain your rating system, and I shouldn't have counted how many words you'd used. We have both failed.
DiesOnLoadingScreen
Prerty sure the jews arnt on the receiving end this time.. prerty sure they are backing it with money
4Astaroth
Pretty sure you need a grammar lesson and a history lesson.
Zamm005
Hmm... Antisemitic zionists?
More likely to me is that the word parasite was just used against both scapegoats the way its also been used against countless other scapegoats throughout history.
If I call a jew a cunt... That doesn't make 'calling someone a cunt' antisemitic.
It might have been antisemitism when I called the jew a cunt, but not when I call anyone else a cunt.
Goshitsnicehere
Did you not read the Wikipedia article that was just posted. It was used specifically for the Jewish people and was then used later on by the Nazis to justify their hatred of the Jews. And now it's being used by the Republican Nazi party to describe anyone that isn't white American.
Zamm005
Yea i did... Did you not read my comment?
It was used in 2015 to vilify Polish people migrating to the UK too... But no one says that it's specifically anti Polish do they?
denimdaddy
I'm not sure why all the downvotes. I had no idea this term was used by Nazi in this way. And as such if I we're to call someone a parasite I would have no context of the word outside of it's literal definition. I'm not defending musk, he's a cunt, but I feel like too often we go around assuming everyone knows all the same things we do. I'm happy to have learned something today
Zamm005
It might be partly my first line. I fucked up there. Writing it like that implies I think all Jews have to be zionists and of course that's not the case. It was dumb and I apologise for that bit entirely!
.. But I think the main part is that the term antisemitism has been so effectively weaponised into the beginning and the end of all arguments regarding gaza lately, that people feel safer just agreeing that everything is antisemitism rather than risk being called an antisemite.
Or just bots..
whereismymind86
True, but nazi rhetoric did refer to the Jewish people as parasites specifically, similar to the way the gop currently attacks immigrants as a drain on resources that don’t contribute etc, obvious bigoted lies, but effective for justification of atrocities all the same
Zamm005
It did. I've explained this in other replies if you're interested. Tldr 'all the things in this image that are blue are cars' does not mean that 'all the cars in this image are blue'.
Maybe I'm being pedantic, but understanding how terms are confused helps them from being used against you later
iCommunicateInGifs
laserfork
Yes, anti-Semitic Zionists. It's not at all unusual, and very obviously they're people who want Jewish people to leave their country and go away to Israel for good.
Zamm005
Yes good point. My first line is actually pretty shitty... It implies all Jews are zionists and that's clearly not the case.
Thanks! This is what conversation online should be about imo. Helpimg eachother refine our thoughts!
RoutemasterFlash
Yes, the hard right in the US is, in general, both Zionist and antisemitic. They want Jews in their proper place - their own ethnostate in the Levant, projecting American power and holding back the savage brown hordes - and not in America, where they are presumed to be secretly controlling everything for nefarious purposes.
Zamm005
Thank you. You are 100% spot on. I fucked up with that first line and apologise completely! It implies I think all Jews are zionists, and thats clearly not the case! They have been some of the loudest antizionist voices of the last year and a half!
RoutemasterFlash
Well the vast majority of Jews *are* Zionists, but that word is often used as it it means "psycho Nazi monster who loves the idea of killing Palestinian children", when actually all it means is that they support the existence of Israel. Jewish people can be strongly critical of Israel, but if they want it to carry on existing, then technically they're Zionists.
But it's been conflated with the most hardline, right-wing Zionists, who are indeed racist psychos.