Nov 15, 2019 11:13 PM
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digitalist1
It's kinda brilliant that george washington choose to cross the Delaware during christmas instead of celebrating.
jdaniels57a
Well, the Brits had a point.
DarkTheme439
Having an ocean between probably made it difficult. Heck, I've spent an hour looking for my wife in Walmart.
vangogh1117
Interesting to note, "Washington Crossing the Delaware“ was a German take on the Revolution if I'm not mistaken. Also icebergs lol.
Khornight
If you ask a brit about a civil war in a colony, you need to be more specific, we had a few.
DeviousWay
And we fought the British B-Team and couldn’t win without French assistance.
Haiddon
britain: "hey, pay taxes" america: "alright, so that means we get to vote in parliament, right?" britain: "lol, no" america: "...FREEDOM!!!"
Furrycyoathrowaway
Haha sure, like they teach us anything about the american revolution in school at all. I learned more about the Egyptians. Not even covered.
ScottPerri
You should do one the American Civil War with the Americans and the Terrorists that lost.
H2OUUP2NOW
The terrorists/invaders cane from the north. The north invaded the south. Get your history correct. The north needed/used the south.
I’m not saying the south was right when it came to slavery but, the war would never have happened if the northern states didn’t care
If they list their agrarian powerhouse. The south is where cotton and most of the good was grown year round (hardy crops that last)
Meatmissile3000
no representation ;)
Shayceror
That is pretty accurate for Philly.
EricSSmith
Why am I laughing so much at this
wowheylookdotcom
Americans not giving a shit because ‘Merica, Fuck You.
hobbyColorKing
Damn straight!!!! Murica!!!!!
Vaanhalen
We've never looked back since
theycallmemrpib
The attitude has stuck with us since 1776
someonesomewhereunderstands
As an American: Both pictures convey the same freedomly patriotism.
RyanOfAthens
Unjust laws are by definition; not lawful, or just. Thus, they should be ignored.
gassersdontmakeaccidents
Freedomly! So freedom.
AtomicCarp
Except not as much as the time they melted a statue of king George to make into musket balls. ‘Murica
Lavacop
I mean, if crossing a frozen river on Christmas night to kill people in their sleep isn't patriotic..I don't know what is.
KarmaaRose
Nothing a nice cup of tea can't fix.
PhailRaptor
Have fun scooping it out of the harbor. Might be a touch salty.
DutchOvenMePlz
Yo FUCK YOU dog.
SassySailor
Both are accurate
chickensareawesome
MadHakon
Yeah, after all John Adams was the legal defense of the soldiers involved in the Boston Massacre, who were then found innocent.
revenfett
Found not guilty*... and two were actually found guilty of manslaughter
Point being is that he successfully provided them a defense against the public outrage that accused them of more heinous crimes
No doubt. It was certainly an historically significant moment
You explain the technical difference between innocent and not guilty. And two out of the dozen some that were tried? (1)
To be fair, I’m not exactly sure what the rules of evidence were in Boston at the time though...
Not guilty means there was insufficient evidence of guilt; proven innocent implies a different burden of proof.
I suppose that's a fair distinction, one easily forgotten under the standard of modern justice presuming innocence until proven guilt.
Leithoa
No western court finds innocence. Not guilty just means the prosecutor didn't present a case to convict, it doesn't mean you didn't do it.
lDanielHolm
You don't *have* to find innocence. We operate under the presumption of innocence until proven guilty.
BlindGardener
What about the pope? Can't he clean your sins making you innocent?
I get it, but we may as well say they were found innocent given the circumstances of the trial and public sentiment.
spechtimus
bakedpotoooooooo
.
Kangobuild
seedye
Spread the news: you can save content from your phone without using screenshots!
tylerPumpkinTraveler
But why?
Goboings
mithiwithi
I have no idea what the fuck this is, so I'm upvoting it.
Spiderman cake reaction
Spodermingle
10tacles
Looks like Spiderman before putting the eyes
FlashToro
Spidermans
purdhapley
Nice shitting croplord
WhyDontYouMakeMe
Nice shit crop lord
ToasterDent
Nice crop, farmlord
RayvinGal
They're called *plantation owners*
TheMellowPeril
Nice cropp shlorp
GondwanaCraton
Twice coprophilia, shitstain
SuicidalThrillbillyturnedLunaticChillbilly
Crise Shopp Nitlord
retroman688
Dispatching Bondulance...
Easykehl
v
fairybug
As an American, I assure you that we are portrayed in out history books (at least when I was in school) as both righteous AND disasters.
leodavinci1
That's pretty much recorded world history.
I mean, you would know.
CokieMonster69
They're not wrong
ciscoxing626
British "fine we will just put a bunch of condescending do gooders above you and call it Canada....."
parasP6rsas
Now do a version according to the indians.
What does India have to do with it?
Does their opinion not matter to you?
Xaldyn
Nah, that's pretty much how we pictured it going down even for us Americans.
MarkPenrice
Brit reporting: we didn't cover it in History lessons. We've got way too much of our own to cover. My Geography teacher mentioned it though.
But she was rather more interested in the movement of migrant workers around the continent in the 19th century than a war in the 18th.
Whatever I learned of the American revolution and war of independence, I essentially learned *from* Americans.
And really, their grievances sound very much like our government's behaviour of the period. Really kind of on their side in it all.
Shame they had to frisbee all that tea, though. Borderline unacceptable collateral damage.
ConstableIgor
As a Brit I sure I speak for all of Britain when I say that we don’t really give a fuck about the American revolution. We just don’t care.
fvckayouwhale
Losers never care
iamdanman
Well it did happen over 200 years ago
Rolsun
Ha you must be English. You're good at speaking for everyone.
otiumCatulli
55 out of the 65 million British population is English. 84%
vikingvampireangel
Fucking lol
Said the Brit from his sad, cold, and tiny little island.
Your hopeless attempt at trying to insult us over that (bigger men have tried and failed) still isn't going to make us care.
Besides, the early 20th century more than healed over any remaining wounds re: US-UK relations
EroticZombiePants
This is sure a salty reaction to it though.
officialmisunderstanding
Maybe not now, but king George III was pretty butt hurt about it. The british navy was notorious during the late 18th/early 19th century 1/2
for "conscripting" (kidnapping) american merchants into the navy. 2/2
the British navy is more notorious in the uk for conscripting everyone, that's how they got brits to join too...
Valid point. I read a fictional story once where the main character, who was a teenage english boy, was kidnapped into the navy. Other 1/2
than that I had never heard anything but I suppose that It makes sense. 2/2
ItIsByWillAloneISetMyMindInMotion
I care. They made a pitiful attempt at the world record for the largest cup of tea in Boston Harbor.
Nigbad1984
But forgot to warm the harbour first (a dreadful mistake)
It's just another lost colony in a long line of them. The one difference (antipodes and Canada excepted) is it wasn't reclaimed by natives.
Boere war?
Also it happened long enough ago that anyone involved in it, and all their great-grandchildren, are long since dead. Even for us, that's old
Whereas the Americans put a lot of stock in the event because, well, it was the very birth of their nation, duh. Whole other perspective.
The flip would be trying to get them to care about the battle of Hastings, or the drawing up of the Magna Carta, etc.
GoAwayOrIWillTauntYouASecondTime
Probably most of the Americans living today are descendants of British who immigrated to America decades after the revolution anyway.
Actually in studies the largest single nation is germany...
But a lot of americas aren't as into their german heritage as english/scots/irish forsome reason
MithridateEupator
Britain defended us from their own enemies, and then want us to foot the bill. Fuck you, we liked the French (a little).
svoka
As a Canadian: but why???
ObiHaiv
Sit down. The adults are talking.
Canada is America run by VJJ’s.
AtsaMattaForMe
No revolution ever succeeded by following the rules of war.
SecretAgentSuperBooger
American Revolution according to Trump:
Source? I've never heard this bollocks.
Trump's July 4th "speech": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-6OpkqNn4M
Thismuchistrue
Never let this die. A true indicator of his incompetence.
rando84
Forcing the Redcoats to fly out of Newark left them demoralized & inconvenienced.
yeahiheardaboutpluto
American Revolution according to the French:
TargaX
As an American, I have always had great respect for the French. Not only were they our allies in the Revolutionary War and WW2, but they...
ActionJohnnie
Don’t forget the fantastic job they did in Vietnam prior to handing over to us.
Also solidified our friendship by gifting us the Statue of Liberty. Much love to Frenchies!
NoJIMMIESWILLBEUNRUSTLED
The french in every other war
Shifuede
Na, before WWII the French were respected on the field of battle, & rightly so. Guess where the widely adopted 8mm Lebel is from...
hokeyreligions
Franco Prussian War, not so much.
AnthropomorphisingEverything
I think Napoleon might disagree.
naytorin
One single war*
waudey912
Mate france nearly took over europe in the napoleonic wars. They took on britain, austria, prussia, and russia at the same time and it 1/
3 coalitions to bring them down. 2/2
freshthrowaway1138
Stop being ignorant in public. The French Navy provide almost all naval support for the war. The French government provided most of the /1
/2 gunpowder used by the Continental Army, including 100% of it for an entire year. The French also floated massive loans for us to pay our/
/3 troops and infrastructure for years of fighting. This dismissal of the French by modern Americans is insulting to an important ally.
UglyHorribleGrouchyOldMan
The US fought the Revolutionary War from 1775-1783. France didn't join in until 1778, after we had already turned the tide of war. French/
2/ forces, ore significant supplies didn't begin arriving until late 1779. Prior to the alliance, much of the supplies reaching America /
How is it dismissive? It literally implies that Americans begged the French for support, which is true.
Sorry, I saw it as saying that the French were begging to surrender or something.
lizardbones
Well yeah. The French Revolution was the only time the French actually fought to the death for anything. The americans just didnt want taxes
The taxes led to a boycott and property damage, It was the attempt to confiscate a colonist armory that led to actual bloodshed.
For a nation that sucks at warfare, they certainly lent a lot of terminology to the military field.
You're confusing pre-industrial america with post-industrial america.
The only french military power that does anything is never actually IN France
Tall0389
Sorry man,did you forgot WW1?
I know what happened in WWI. France relied mostly the British army and Canadian militia
Paul1574
And hows that workimg out for them?
155DangerClose
Most powerful country in the world?
Better than France?
BlackBiscuit
What are the tax rates in the two countries? No seriously, google "income tax france" and "income tax usa". I'll wait.
So it actually seems worse? https://www.expatica.com/fr/finance/taxes/a-guide-to-taxes-in-france-101156/ maybe Iooking in the wrong spot?
It's "no taxation without representation" not "no taxation". We weren't represented in british parliament but king George III felt we 1/2
owed the crown money for the british military assistance in neutralizing french incited native american raiding parties. 2/2
If not for French support during the American Revolution, we here in the US would be speaking English!
Quipod
Hahaha
The horr- wait a minute...
mokzin
I mean they only did it as an F you to the English. Ended up being a bad choice 4 their royals to make when the debt from it caused a revolt
There was an accumulated debt from before. Louis XIV didn’t exactly have a frugal lifestyle. But that’s not the only reason.
The aristocracy itself was torn between those who bought into it and those who belonged to the old stock from way back.
justadudewholovescats
Got a source on that? Would it rather be the long conflicts and lose of territory
https://www.history.com/topics/france/french-revolution literally just googled "causes of the french revolution"
Never said it was the only reason for the french revolution but it did not help. as for the FU part. the Franco-Anglo rivalry is well known
The american revolution ended in 1783. The french one started six years later.
Kinda. The War of 1812 was pretty much our second revolutionary war. If we had lost, we'd be speaking English today!
digitalist1
It's kinda brilliant that george washington choose to cross the Delaware during christmas instead of celebrating.
jdaniels57a
Well, the Brits had a point.
DarkTheme439
Having an ocean between probably made it difficult. Heck, I've spent an hour looking for my wife in Walmart.
vangogh1117
Interesting to note, "Washington Crossing the Delaware“ was a German take on the Revolution if I'm not mistaken. Also icebergs lol.
Khornight
If you ask a brit about a civil war in a colony, you need to be more specific, we had a few.
DeviousWay
And we fought the British B-Team and couldn’t win without French assistance.
Haiddon
britain: "hey, pay taxes" america: "alright, so that means we get to vote in parliament, right?" britain: "lol, no" america: "...FREEDOM!!!"
Furrycyoathrowaway
Haha sure, like they teach us anything about the american revolution in school at all. I learned more about the Egyptians. Not even covered.
ScottPerri
You should do one the American Civil War with the Americans and the Terrorists that lost.
H2OUUP2NOW
The terrorists/invaders cane from the north. The north invaded the south. Get your history correct. The north needed/used the south.
H2OUUP2NOW
I’m not saying the south was right when it came to slavery but, the war would never have happened if the northern states didn’t care
H2OUUP2NOW
If they list their agrarian powerhouse. The south is where cotton and most of the good was grown year round (hardy crops that last)
Meatmissile3000
no representation ;)
Shayceror
That is pretty accurate for Philly.
EricSSmith
Why am I laughing so much at this
wowheylookdotcom
Americans not giving a shit because ‘Merica, Fuck You.
hobbyColorKing
Damn straight!!!! Murica!!!!!
Vaanhalen
We've never looked back since
theycallmemrpib
The attitude has stuck with us since 1776
someonesomewhereunderstands
As an American: Both pictures convey the same freedomly patriotism.
RyanOfAthens
Unjust laws are by definition; not lawful, or just. Thus, they should be ignored.
gassersdontmakeaccidents
Freedomly! So freedom.
AtomicCarp
Except not as much as the time they melted a statue of king George to make into musket balls. ‘Murica
Lavacop
I mean, if crossing a frozen river on Christmas night to kill people in their sleep isn't patriotic..I don't know what is.
KarmaaRose
Nothing a nice cup of tea can't fix.
PhailRaptor
Have fun scooping it out of the harbor. Might be a touch salty.
DutchOvenMePlz
Yo FUCK YOU dog.
SassySailor
Both are accurate
chickensareawesome
MadHakon
Yeah, after all John Adams was the legal defense of the soldiers involved in the Boston Massacre, who were then found innocent.
revenfett
Found not guilty*... and two were actually found guilty of manslaughter
MadHakon
Point being is that he successfully provided them a defense against the public outrage that accused them of more heinous crimes
revenfett
No doubt. It was certainly an historically significant moment
MadHakon
You explain the technical difference between innocent and not guilty. And two out of the dozen some that were tried? (1)
revenfett
To be fair, I’m not exactly sure what the rules of evidence were in Boston at the time though...
revenfett
Not guilty means there was insufficient evidence of guilt; proven innocent implies a different burden of proof.
MadHakon
I suppose that's a fair distinction, one easily forgotten under the standard of modern justice presuming innocence until proven guilt.
Leithoa
No western court finds innocence. Not guilty just means the prosecutor didn't present a case to convict, it doesn't mean you didn't do it.
lDanielHolm
You don't *have* to find innocence. We operate under the presumption of innocence until proven guilty.
BlindGardener
What about the pope? Can't he clean your sins making you innocent?
MadHakon
I get it, but we may as well say they were found innocent given the circumstances of the trial and public sentiment.
spechtimus
bakedpotoooooooo
.
Kangobuild
seedye
Spread the news: you can save content from your phone without using screenshots!
tylerPumpkinTraveler
But why?
Goboings
mithiwithi
I have no idea what the fuck this is, so I'm upvoting it.
Goboings
Spiderman cake reaction
bakedpotoooooooo
Spodermingle
10tacles
Looks like Spiderman before putting the eyes
Goboings
FlashToro
Spidermans
purdhapley
Nice shitting croplord
WhyDontYouMakeMe
Nice shit crop lord
ToasterDent
Nice crop, farmlord
RayvinGal
They're called *plantation owners*
TheMellowPeril
Nice cropp shlorp
GondwanaCraton
Twice coprophilia, shitstain
SuicidalThrillbillyturnedLunaticChillbilly
Crise Shopp Nitlord
retroman688
Dispatching Bondulance...
Easykehl
fairybug
As an American, I assure you that we are portrayed in out history books (at least when I was in school) as both righteous AND disasters.
leodavinci1
That's pretty much recorded world history.
fairybug
I mean, you would know.
CokieMonster69
They're not wrong
ciscoxing626
British "fine we will just put a bunch of condescending do gooders above you and call it Canada....."
parasP6rsas
Now do a version according to the indians.
DarkTheme439
What does India have to do with it?
parasP6rsas
Does their opinion not matter to you?
Xaldyn
Nah, that's pretty much how we pictured it going down even for us Americans.
MarkPenrice
Brit reporting: we didn't cover it in History lessons. We've got way too much of our own to cover. My Geography teacher mentioned it though.
MarkPenrice
But she was rather more interested in the movement of migrant workers around the continent in the 19th century than a war in the 18th.
MarkPenrice
Whatever I learned of the American revolution and war of independence, I essentially learned *from* Americans.
MarkPenrice
And really, their grievances sound very much like our government's behaviour of the period. Really kind of on their side in it all.
MarkPenrice
Shame they had to frisbee all that tea, though. Borderline unacceptable collateral damage.
ConstableIgor
As a Brit I sure I speak for all of Britain when I say that we don’t really give a fuck about the American revolution. We just don’t care.
fvckayouwhale
Losers never care
iamdanman
Well it did happen over 200 years ago
Rolsun
Ha you must be English. You're good at speaking for everyone.
otiumCatulli
55 out of the 65 million British population is English. 84%
vikingvampireangel
Fucking lol
hobbyColorKing
Said the Brit from his sad, cold, and tiny little island.
MarkPenrice
Your hopeless attempt at trying to insult us over that (bigger men have tried and failed) still isn't going to make us care.
MarkPenrice
Besides, the early 20th century more than healed over any remaining wounds re: US-UK relations
EroticZombiePants
This is sure a salty reaction to it though.
officialmisunderstanding
Maybe not now, but king George III was pretty butt hurt about it. The british navy was notorious during the late 18th/early 19th century 1/2
officialmisunderstanding
for "conscripting" (kidnapping) american merchants into the navy. 2/2
Khornight
the British navy is more notorious in the uk for conscripting everyone, that's how they got brits to join too...
officialmisunderstanding
Valid point. I read a fictional story once where the main character, who was a teenage english boy, was kidnapped into the navy. Other 1/2
officialmisunderstanding
than that I had never heard anything but I suppose that It makes sense. 2/2
ItIsByWillAloneISetMyMindInMotion
I care. They made a pitiful attempt at the world record for the largest cup of tea in Boston Harbor.
Nigbad1984
But forgot to warm the harbour first (a dreadful mistake)
MarkPenrice
It's just another lost colony in a long line of them. The one difference (antipodes and Canada excepted) is it wasn't reclaimed by natives.
Khornight
Boere war?
MarkPenrice
Also it happened long enough ago that anyone involved in it, and all their great-grandchildren, are long since dead. Even for us, that's old
MarkPenrice
Whereas the Americans put a lot of stock in the event because, well, it was the very birth of their nation, duh. Whole other perspective.
MarkPenrice
The flip would be trying to get them to care about the battle of Hastings, or the drawing up of the Magna Carta, etc.
GoAwayOrIWillTauntYouASecondTime
Probably most of the Americans living today are descendants of British who immigrated to America decades after the revolution anyway.
Khornight
Actually in studies the largest single nation is germany...
Khornight
But a lot of americas aren't as into their german heritage as english/scots/irish forsome reason
MithridateEupator
Britain defended us from their own enemies, and then want us to foot the bill. Fuck you, we liked the French (a little).
svoka
As a Canadian: but why???
ObiHaiv
Sit down. The adults are talking.
H2OUUP2NOW
Canada is America run by VJJ’s.
AtsaMattaForMe
BlindGardener
No revolution ever succeeded by following the rules of war.
SecretAgentSuperBooger
American Revolution according to Trump:
officialmisunderstanding
Source? I've never heard this bollocks.
SecretAgentSuperBooger
Trump's July 4th "speech": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-6OpkqNn4M
Thismuchistrue
Never let this die. A true indicator of his incompetence.
rando84
Forcing the Redcoats to fly out of Newark left them demoralized & inconvenienced.
yeahiheardaboutpluto
SecretAgentSuperBooger
TheMellowPeril
American Revolution according to the French:
TargaX
As an American, I have always had great respect for the French. Not only were they our allies in the Revolutionary War and WW2, but they...
ActionJohnnie
Don’t forget the fantastic job they did in Vietnam prior to handing over to us.
TargaX
Also solidified our friendship by gifting us the Statue of Liberty. Much love to Frenchies!
NoJIMMIESWILLBEUNRUSTLED
The french in every other war
Shifuede
Na, before WWII the French were respected on the field of battle, & rightly so. Guess where the widely adopted 8mm Lebel is from...
hokeyreligions
Franco Prussian War, not so much.
AnthropomorphisingEverything
I think Napoleon might disagree.
naytorin
One single war*
waudey912
Mate france nearly took over europe in the napoleonic wars. They took on britain, austria, prussia, and russia at the same time and it 1/
waudey912
3 coalitions to bring them down. 2/2
freshthrowaway1138
Stop being ignorant in public. The French Navy provide almost all naval support for the war. The French government provided most of the /1
freshthrowaway1138
/2 gunpowder used by the Continental Army, including 100% of it for an entire year. The French also floated massive loans for us to pay our/
freshthrowaway1138
/3 troops and infrastructure for years of fighting. This dismissal of the French by modern Americans is insulting to an important ally.
UglyHorribleGrouchyOldMan
The US fought the Revolutionary War from 1775-1783. France didn't join in until 1778, after we had already turned the tide of war. French/
UglyHorribleGrouchyOldMan
2/ forces, ore significant supplies didn't begin arriving until late 1779. Prior to the alliance, much of the supplies reaching America /
MadHakon
How is it dismissive? It literally implies that Americans begged the French for support, which is true.
freshthrowaway1138
Sorry, I saw it as saying that the French were begging to surrender or something.
lizardbones
Well yeah. The French Revolution was the only time the French actually fought to the death for anything. The americans just didnt want taxes
officialmisunderstanding
The taxes led to a boycott and property damage, It was the attempt to confiscate a colonist armory that led to actual bloodshed.
TheMellowPeril
For a nation that sucks at warfare, they certainly lent a lot of terminology to the military field.
officialmisunderstanding
You're confusing pre-industrial america with post-industrial america.
lizardbones
The only french military power that does anything is never actually IN France
Tall0389
Sorry man,did you forgot WW1?
lizardbones
I know what happened in WWI. France relied mostly the British army and Canadian militia
Paul1574
And hows that workimg out for them?
155DangerClose
Most powerful country in the world?
Rolsun
Better than France?
BlackBiscuit
What are the tax rates in the two countries? No seriously, google "income tax france" and "income tax usa". I'll wait.
Rolsun
So it actually seems worse? https://www.expatica.com/fr/finance/taxes/a-guide-to-taxes-in-france-101156/ maybe Iooking in the wrong spot?
officialmisunderstanding
It's "no taxation without representation" not "no taxation". We weren't represented in british parliament but king George III felt we 1/2
officialmisunderstanding
owed the crown money for the british military assistance in neutralizing french incited native american raiding parties. 2/2
GondwanaCraton
If not for French support during the American Revolution, we here in the US would be speaking English!
Quipod
Hahaha
TheMellowPeril
The horr- wait a minute...
mokzin
I mean they only did it as an F you to the English. Ended up being a bad choice 4 their royals to make when the debt from it caused a revolt
TheMellowPeril
There was an accumulated debt from before. Louis XIV didn’t exactly have a frugal lifestyle. But that’s not the only reason.
TheMellowPeril
The aristocracy itself was torn between those who bought into it and those who belonged to the old stock from way back.
justadudewholovescats
Got a source on that? Would it rather be the long conflicts and lose of territory
mokzin
https://www.history.com/topics/france/french-revolution literally just googled "causes of the french revolution"
mokzin
Never said it was the only reason for the french revolution but it did not help. as for the FU part. the Franco-Anglo rivalry is well known
mokzin
The american revolution ended in 1783. The french one started six years later.
GondwanaCraton
Kinda. The War of 1812 was pretty much our second revolutionary war. If we had lost, we'd be speaking English today!