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Using the ESO’s sensitive GRAVITY instrument, researchers have confirmed that the enormous object at the heart of our galaxy is — as scientists have assumed for many years — a supermassive black hole.
Researchers used the European Southern Observatory’s sensitive GRAVITY instrument on the Very Large Telescope (VLT) to observe infrared radiation flares coming from the accretion disc around Sagittarius A* — the massive object at the center of our galaxy. Scientists think that most galaxies have a supermassive black hole at their center, but they’d never before had the data and observations to prove it.
To measure the effects of gravity near to a black hole, scientists needed to observe an object actually traveling close to it. They found their mark in a small star called S2 whose orbit takes it deep within Sagittarius A*’s gravity well every 16 years. As they watched, they saw three bright flares traveling around the black hole’s event horizon at about 30 percent of the speed of light — around 216 million miles per hour.
It’s exactly what Einstein’s theory of general relativity predicts would occur when a hot spot (like S2) passes close to a black hole weighing as much as 4 million suns, and the observation helps to confirm that it’s really there.
SAUCE: http://www.astronomy.com/news/2018/10/scientists-confirm-the-milky-way-has-a-supermassive-black-hole
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ILoveDaftPunk
Well shit, no wonder aliens don’t wanna visit.
I4shleemies
science is fun
C141Clay
Not if you're a witch. (just say'n) https://youtu.be/k2MhMsLn9B0 (Watch and be surprised)
FajitaPrinceofAllMexicans
No you fool! It is the warp! The Chaos gods are upon us! All life is lost!
LithiumGrease
Real props to Einstein tho....
DaisyTeddyBear
How far back in time are we observing this and how soon can we expect to get our solar system sucked in?
BjrnEddieAare
1: about 25000 years. 2: never
mikeatike
Exactly, just like the Earth will never get sucked in to the sun, nor will the sun reach Sag A*
mikeatike
Now, of course, the sun might decide to expand to swallow the earth, but that's another story altogether. :)
madguillotine
@SlutAtNight :)
SlutAtNight
Einstein nails it again!
madguillotine
He was a pretty clever dude...
halshing
BojanglesTheFlyingCar
I should visit there in elite dangerous
gttone
Ya my VLG, Elite Dangerous has that too! (Very large game)
flavivsaetivs
It's worth the trip CMDR.
mf1ve
Can confirm... and onward to Beagle Point
BojanglesTheFlyingCar
O7
Tlactl
I haven't even been able to get into the Sol system yet
DesertSpiney
I now have access to Shinrarta Dezra!
Zhorhammer
In Elite: Dangerous, it's explorer tradition to travel to Sag A* and jettison a cargo pod of beer as a sacrifice to the Great Devourer.
NeverOddOrEvenBackwards
Finally!!!
MrMattster
Calling S2 a small star is not quite right. It's 10 - 15 times the mass of the sun, so is more massive than 95% of the stars in the galaxy
HomicidalDirtMuppet
arse0132342
What does it want?
mikeatike
Who are you?
anamethathasnotalreadybeenchosen
too high and read it as "Has a supermassive asshole"
Poppettewise
The Expanse, the ring
Chirikain
shoulda went with telescopy mctelescopeface
midna1078
MURPHHHHHH
R1Armadillo
Haha!!
RoTaLuMe
does anyone else think thats scary?
mikeatike
Not really, it's widely held that all spiral galaxies have them. Also it's like 30k ly away.
lordofarda
Just don't ponder that when you are outside the only thing between the top of your head and the edge of the universe is 62 miles of air.
Elderahn
It has always been there, it will always be there. The true be-all end-all cosmic horrors that just so happen to share our universe.
lordofarda
Not always. It will eventually evaporate away in 10^87 years. you know, give or take an hour or so.
KristenBellwouldplaymeinamovieofmylife
Also, the concept of space just got exponentially vast. My brain ran to 10 dimensions and back. All the fatalism.
WiqidBritt
It's very far away and it's been there for longer than the Earth has existed. It's fine.
DannyDoggo
I do...we're all going down a massive drain hole.
mikeatike
Actually it's not heavy enough for that. There are lots of other things that will kill us first like the sun going nova.
DannyDoggo
Before the sun turns nova, it will swell and burn all the planets including earth. Humans will experience it. Good book: Dalgren.
KristenBellwouldplaymeinamovieofmylife
Super Black hole + human = game over. Yes, yes, I’m very glad that we’re on the edge of a black hole, this is bound to end well...
ajpimpsalll
the odds of you tripping, falling, and somehow ending up on mars are astronomically greater than the earth touching that black hole.
N0ticeablyFAT
There's nothing magical about a black hole, they follow they same laws of physics as everything else. Granted, they kinda push things to...
N0ticeablyFAT
...the extreme, but still.
10tacles
You have blackholes closer to you right now. They form all the time in the atmosphere.
MattDerKomponist
That math is just mind boggling.
potatoqueen
Pshhh, I could have told them that. It wouldn't have been backed up by any factual evidence, but that's beside the point
GBMaker
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imtheguyintecornerofpartieshangingwithhisintrovertfriends
I’m 101% certain we have known about this. We have observed the orbit of multiple stars around this object and the only answer was BH.
Kinkybobo
We "knew" about it yes, but have only just now been able to actually prove and confirm it.
QuasiIntellectualChimpanzee
We can’t *know* much. We can only reduce the likelihood of it being a different explanation incrementally using different observations.
imtheguyintecornerofpartieshangingwithhisintrovertfriends
The consensus was it was way too massive and relatively small to not be a black hole. The orbits the stars have around it are absurd. Lol
QuasiIntellectualChimpanzee
Oh, yeah, for sure. I just bristle a little bit when I hear people say scientists have proven something. It takes a lot to prove something
imtheguyintecornerofpartieshangingwithhisintrovertfriends
*Relative in terms of its mass
dylanh82
Isn’t a black holes formed from the collapse of a Star? If so I’m curious how our galaxy was made since it’s a supernova galaxies require to
dylanh82
form or are collapses and supernovas one in the same?
dylanh82
Like an implosion resulting in an explosion or maybe the other way around
SerenePrincess013
It's almost like The Big Bang Theory might have some validation to it. (Not the show. The show is dumb.)
mikeatike
Other way around. The Galaxy formed first, and a bunch of stellar mass black holes got together and formed the supermassive one.
dylanh82
Even if that’s true those black holes would have to be from the stars that greater the Galaxy since galaxies are greater from supernovas
dylanh82
Created*
mikeatike
Actually the first stars formed before the first galaxies. The first stars were pure hydrogen and huge monsters. They would have made
mikeatike
black holes when they go boom. Those black holes merged to form the supermassive ones. Tho I'm not sure if they predate galaxies.
mikeatike
Oh wait I understand your comment now, I think we are on the same page.
RinzlerDidNothingWrong
Fun fact: The Very Large Telescope is the actual official name of that telescope, once again proving that scientists suck at naming things.
Muffdiver9
I dunno, Sea of Tranquility, Ocean of Storms, they've been pretty great at naming a lot of stuff regarding space.
ViciousOtter
Telescopy McTelescopface was available, such a shame...
stronomer
Why? It's from a time when 4 meter-diameter was the max. These are 4 scopes of 8m diameter.
RinzlerDidNothingWrong
Really, Google it.
TheMershedPerderder
Quick, someone tell Muse.
TheNonInsestuousJaime
Whose?
TakeTheStairs
I can picture them calling each other in the middle of the night, waking each other up.like those scenes from so many movies
Applications
Black Holes and Revelations
TimmehCaster
Oooooooooooooooooohhaaaaaaaaaaaaa, you set my soul alight
srsfaceI8C
Glaciers melting in the dead of night / and the superstars sucked into the super massive
benjamminblack
First and only thing that comes to mind
ffakefake45
https://youtu.be/N-_mHedypEU
GreyscaleArt
Soundgarden!
xoverthirtyx
& that’s how aliens visit from tons of light years away, they just hop into their galaxy’s black hole.
FajitaPrinceofAllMexicans
Then they visit here and get in my black hole with probes.
BugEyedLemur
I wonder if galaxies that have a black hole in the middle spin different ways on different sides of the universe.
mikeatike
Orientation of galaxies appears to be random. Tho that probably means we haven't discovered the actual mechanism yet
wereid
Was anyone, with a modicum of knowledge on the subject, surprised?
QuasiIntellectualChimpanzee
We can’t know much. We can only reduce the likelihood of a different explanation incrementally by using different observations.
vowofloudness
Surprised that Sgr-A is a black hole, no. Surprised that they were able to image hot gas just above the event horizon? Very much so.
wereid
I'll go along with that.
wereid
Know?.. perhaps not. But give a good guess that was as good a guess as evolution?.. sure. And therefore not be surprised.
AmityvilleHodor
Can we talk about the name they gave the Very Large Telescope (VLT) for a second?...
GeyboyBerserkr
Yeah, physicists aren't really the most creative namers.
valen00
very creative namers
AJMansfield
DarthFutuza
Looks like a list of RPG items Astronomer Classes have to grind for in their quest to be the server's top dog.
ChickenBunny
Right now I'm working on the (TMT) Thirty Meter Telescope. It will be the biggest Telescope in the world.
qweesdy
Not for long - I'm planning to start building a TOMT soon!
rrlyrae
don't forget that the specific instrument involved is the General Relativity Analysis via VLT InTerferometrY. seriously. GRAVITY.
Cole2999
Missed out on calling it GRAVVI. Mmmmmmm
Iaimtomisbehave
VISTA: Visual and Infrared Survey Telescopic Array, ESO Chile.
klomb8888
It was named by Lemony Snicket
DTryptophan
https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/telescope_names.png
zxvb
It’s not just telescopes, everything in astrophysics has simple names: black hole, big bang, red giant, etc.
ButterMyButt
It's to go with the VLA (Very Large Array)
ButterMyButt
http://www.vla.nrao.edu/
thedissident
Rather it be BFT imo
SkillerPenguin
Big Friendly Telescope?
xplct
Most ppl complain about complicated scientific names. I think we can all appreciate simplistic scientific names.
Phischstaebchen
then don't look up the radiotelescope names :P
MilDravin
I mean... Simple name leaves time for more sciencey stuffs
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKYOOOOOOOOUUUU
Astronomers aren't very creative with telescope names. Another example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overwhelmingly_Large_Telescope
GuardsmanMiku
instead they settled for the extremely large telescope
forsale90
The abbreviation is OWL. How is this not creative?^^
SaltyInternetPirate
That really stuck-out for me, too. What will they call the next bigger one they build? The Even Larger Telescope?
valen00
like probably?
stronomer
Extremely Large Telescope: https://www.eso.org/public/teles-instr/elt/
SaltyInternetPirate
Motherfucker! They did go for a name like that.
stronomer
Yeah, but we really don't know how to continue after that. In radio they went for "square kilometer array", and NASA names after people.
stronomer
It's probably us dry Europeans that mainly have this issue ;-)
AESTHETICALme
JohnnyLawlessEsq
If I were a billionaire, I would fund telescopes, but they would have to have names like “Absurdly Large Telescope,” “Improbably Large (1)
JohnnyLawlessEsq
Telescope,” and “Really, Really, Ridiculously Large Telescope.” I’d love to see those names in papers.
mikeatike
You'd get alone well with the ESA.
intergalacticbuttjazz
Cheers bruv
mikeatike
Japan's Suburu telescope is my favorite because it's mirror was made in Pittsburgh. And I know what happened to it's donut hole.
AstroExplained
You joke..but... TMT = Thirty Meter Telescope. LBT = Large Binocular Telescope. LMT = Large Millimeter Telescope. Guess what ELT = ??
rrlyrae
astronomers are funny with names. i fondly recall the MaCHO v WIMP debate.
PeccableTiming
Extra Lettuce and Tomato
BenitoSly
BAT = Big Ass Telescope
AmHumanNotLizardMan
And wait until he learns about the OWLT!
SithElephant
Those bastards!
TripUpStairs
TMT is back in the news here (Hawaii) this week. http://www.staradvertiser.com/2018/10/30/breaking-news/supreme-court-rules-in-favor-of-tmt/
thecolonels
Also VLA = very large array (of radio telescopes) and the Large Hadron Collider
Daphault1
As featured in Contact. But there isn't a canyon there; that's movie BS. Usually take the extra time to drive by it when driving through NM
Treblaine
cobacalao
Even Larger Telescope?
ErinInStereo
Extremely Large Telescope?
AstroExplained
Ding! Now try: VLA
Mindshard
Vagina, lettuce, avocado. A sandwich known as the millennial Tinder.
valen00
ok I'm a space scientist and I'm fucking stealing that millennial tinder bit.
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AstroExplained
Ok bonus round! The EELT?
TheShadowsLengthen
Wasn't that ALREADY proven ? Everything I've read on the subject seemed to assume Sagittarius A* status was a given...
ShadeEmberi
Right, I am sure we have even had pictures of it
stronomer
Yes it was. In the sense that nothing else could have been that 4m solar mass object. But this is a jump in confirmed density. Good!
ferafish
It was pretty certain, but no direct proof before.
rihani3
In science nothing is ever truly proven. We can only talk about what has the best evidence for being true. This is just another step...
rihani3
... towards improving that evidence. This is the key factor that separates science from religion.