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No new GPU for you
Mar 23, 2018 2:17 PM
just4thememes
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Mendelbrot
I'm actually looking to sell my 1080 TI. $940 free shipping. Msg me if interested.
fosul
Apparently nvidia's upcoming cards lock out crypto mining?
Nullspeak
are older cards still cheap? cards like GTX670s
kostor
I wish I could find a good new 670 in a price..
DJTrump
I bought a new graphics card right before the prices soared.
YarnsNbarns
CHOCOLATE!!
flyguybillnye
Got a GTX 1070 SC edition for $405 on newegg in December, it retailed at 399.99 I almost got original price lol.
disinformatique
I've given up hope to get a Graphics Card.
drewcrosby
Cryptocurrency needs to die. There are much better uses for all that hardware and electricity. We need to stop wasting resources on it.
xSocksMan
Hey...my laptop is kinda failing...it would be nice if I could buy a fucking graphics card
hammeRthe
After 5 years I decde to build a PC. I even got a friend of a friend to create a great pc configuration. And then I looked at the GPU price.
Plaaant
I was finally going to do it. I was finally going to build a pc this year. God damn it. God damn it all.
Vedar
This was the year I planned to upgrade my gpu too
Drakhma
ive had the same pc since 2008, i recently upgraded the 3 gigs of DDR2, to 8 gigs of DDR2 and i love it.
Drakhma
cost me $40 for 4 DDR2 ram cards.
GhillieTrollAskold
YEAH FUCK DECENTRALIZED CURRENCIES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
GuardsmanMiku
I don't think i've ever hated something so quickly
inubaka879
yo is it a bad time to buy im hoping to buy next month.....
HotPocketMemes
Walked into a frys electronics to replace my tired old 660, shelves were BARREN like id never witnessed. Walked out with an aero rx 560 and
HotPocketMemes
Disappointment
VaIerie
I was wanting to sell my CS:GO inventory and buy new parts, but now one card is my entire inventory now.. I hate it.
JifLover
Seriously GPU's are a rare commodity these days.
jrmxrf
GPUs are not being used to mine Bitcoin. That was a thing in 2011. Now only specialized hardware is profitable. So those logos need upgrade.
MOTHERFUCKINGLUCIFERMORNINGSTAR
People still use gpus for mining. A lot. Just because it's not AS profitable doesn't mean idiots won't buy 20 cards.
HiddenSanity
Not for bitcoin, but for other crypto currencies they do.
jrmxrf
That',s precisely my point.
HarryBlackstoneCopperfieldDresden
The fuck they aren't. It just depends on what kind of hashing you're doing.
sorrycannotbraintoday
Many of the newer currencies that come out often still mine off gpu
4FingeredBandit
Weeeelllll no, you can still make a profit from using gpu's. And if cryptocurrency belly up's gpu's will have better resale value
jrmxrf
You can't. Far from it. Unless you steal electricity from somebody (like your parents).
Z0op
Criminals stealing electricity for bitcoin farms do appear more frequently, so legal or not those gpu’s are still being used for it
Z0op
And dont forget that there are a lot of countries where they can get cheap electricity and housing, gpu’s for bitcoin is still a thing
ThatJerkOnTheInternet
I run nicehash on my gaming pc at night/while im at work. makes about 40$ a month, and the increase in power usage is barely noticable.
ThatJerkOnTheInternet
plus it's just a single 980gt.
jrmxrf
You can make money mining cryptos using your GPU. My point is that it doesn't work with Bitcoin.
ThatJerkOnTheInternet
I am mining bitcoin
DidYouJustAssumeMyGerder
shhhhh anti miners, hate this kind of info
LiquidAurum
It doesn't make much difference to the point Crypto mining is inflating the price. Using a different logo would mostly just confuse most
OddSoull
So is it now worth more to build a PC vs Buying them premade?
Darg0
Pretty much, certain Pre-mades have been selling for better prices than a GPU and all the compnents put together.
MOTHERFUCKINGLUCIFERMORNINGSTAR
It costs more to build now because prebuilts get cards and ram at or below msrp.
Slashinhobo
Id recommend buying premades now. Seen better deals for rigs where it cost almost as much as a gpu.
sorrycannotbraintoday
If getting a highend card right now, most likely premade with the card you want in it
OddSoull
well i guess that just makes things easier on our end... but overall we are having to pay more
deathclamfive
Who mines Bitcoin with a GPU?
HiddenSanity
There's more than just bitcoin, there's doezen's of 'em.
IAmTheSlothKing
deathclamfive
Oh I know, just saying that you need an ASIC box to do anything meaningful with BTC.
METR0ID
Where's the ppl that bought bitcoin at the 20K highs? Do not buy if the value is already 20times greater,in
BlargKing
Built my brother a PC a year ago, paid 650$ for a 1070. The same card is now 850$. I hope crypto currency implodes just out of spite now.
BlargKing
And don't even get me started on the idiots selling used 1070's for 1000$ on ebay. Massive scam.
WeenusMaGee
Can someone explain to me what crypto mining has to do with the price of graphics cards?
BlargKing
Basically GPUs are good for certain currencies so assholes go out and buy 8 of them at once to try and earn fake internet money.
Molotovbliss
GPU is great for floating point calculations which miners need to validate transactions on block chain & mine crypto as CPU isn't as good.
TotallyNotAnActualBear
people use the processing power of the GPU to mine, this drives the demand for cards up, and thus prices.
WeenusMaGee
ahh, thanks for the explanation.
downtownskyline
It sucks, because I finally was going to be able to build a computer this year..
Clitastrophe
I almost had the opportunity to get a new computer last year just as this bubble was forming but missed my chance.
ISleptWithSomeoneFromImgurAndAllIGotWasThisStupidUsername
Same :(
4FingeredBandit
I bought a 1050 ti for $270 (CAD) Not the best but it holds it's own for now
RisingPhoenix92
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verifyanddeploy
I was going to fulfil my high-school dream. Well, no I will do it with a 1050TI...
Gonnaderpya
I just wanted to upgrade my graphics card ._.
EBRisTheFastUSAMotorcycle
I cooled my 980ti with a NZXTg12 and a radiator, then overclocked it to 1080ti specs and it's holding well. Just wish I could add VRAM
Gonnaderpya
I don't remember what I have but it's not remotely that high lol
Mendelbrot
Sure you can clock it, but you won't have the insane graphical technology memory, and cuda cores.
EBRisTheFastUSAMotorcycle
Yea but it's better than forking over 2k for a 1080ti.
sorrycannotbraintoday
Go to the EVGA website and set it to notify you when the card you want is in stock, you can direct buy from them at normal price 1/2
sorrycannotbraintoday
Be warned, they sell out within 5-15min of you getting the email. Just ordered a 1080ti at msrp after waiting 2 weeks for the email.
Imheisenbeard
I'm amazed you got the fuggin email. I shall keep waiting
ILikeMassEffect
Same here.
vorute
Just buy a HP omem there's one with $1269 that has a geforce 1070 pretty good
RisingPhoenix92
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vorute
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-omen-by-hp-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-1tb-hard-drive-brushed-aluminum/5759917
MaraHyena
You still can. The usedmarket exists. Lookup the gtx770. It's a 1060,but for 130 instead of 350.
jb32647
In some countries (like mine) the used market kinda sucks. Buying a new card like the RX 550 can actually be cheaper.
sorrycannotbraintoday
Run a high risk of the used gpu being a retired crypto gpu that ran at 100% load for months straight
Z0op
Exactly this, especially for that price. Wouldnt trust it for one bit
Cantthinkofausernametoday
Just tried to purchase gtx 1080 when it came back in stock. Out of stock by the time I made it though the checkout. Ridiculous.
nastynick
My mom bought me a 1080 for christmas last year. She's not even wealthy. I'm a grown adult.
nastynick
My mom bought me a 1080 for christmas last year. She's not even wealthy. I'm a grown adult.
Ulthirm
NVidia is contemplating a marketplace lock on amount of cards purchasable to help alleviate this. (Their own marketplace through their
Ulthirm
website)
jono23uk
Honestly I don't even see how crypto miners make profit. The amount of power used to run the cards is basically all of your profit. /1
AnAccountToPostThis
At this point they dont. Mining is only profitable in very very few places where electricity ia very cheap. Its just a ton of idiots....
AnAccountToPostThis
Jumping on a bandwagon before fully understanding what theyre doing.
InnsmouthTourist
Like most things involving Bitcoins, the only way you can make money is by doing something pretty scummy
snipekill1997
I have mining setup on my gaming PC when I'm not gaming on it. Electricity costs take less than half of my profits at $.16 per KWH.
Satherian
Remember that the people who actually made money during the gold rush were the people selling supplies to the miner. This is the same thing
supersomatic
Theres an easy way to verify that. Are they still doing it? If yes, then it is profitable.
jono23uk
I honestly think the industry just likes to simulate shortages to increase prices.
SmolTenk
Currently its more or less the stock market, except a lot less regulation. We'll see how long it lasts.
HarryBlackstoneCopperfieldDresden
They're talking about the PC hardware market, lol
Mendelbrot
I theorize it's also because of the potential for things like AI and protein folding. There isn't a faster way to get raw computing power.
MOTHERFUCKINGLUCIFERMORNINGSTAR
Actually, it's because of the massive increase in hyperscale data centers for companies like amazon and google, literally causing a shortage
notyouravgjoe
Well mining is currently paying my rent and costs me $20/month in power
kostelic
ITS CALL QUÉBEC. 0.04$/kWh
jn2guru
"utilities included" or anywhere with socialism for electricity
Corrodias
Mostly it's because there are certain people out there who see it as a potential investment, so they pay miners for their coins. And/or »
Corrodias
they're laundering money for drugs while there's still a market for these stupid things.
tttwitchell
Lol electricity is 1/10 of profit. Also it's all about roi the profit. I make 1000 a month with 12 gpus with ether @700
WaterUnderTheRocketAppliances
ServantOfTheGodEmperorOfUsersub
This. It’s basically a money printer. Have a program switch to the most profitable crypto and you’re set.
tttwitchell
And more if I sell the ether at a high point in the future. People who mined before for negative that saved the ether would have - - >
tttwitchell
Been making 5k a day a year later
BoozeHound001
Buddies of mine do it on campus in their dorm. Free power.
glaze1776
They're going to get caught by the IT crew and lose internet privileges
BoozeHound001
4 years in and they are good.
glaze1776
Wow that college IT crew sucks. My college, I can't even remember how I got a day long ban but I did it by clicking a link by accident.
zbaerenlovesme
People are moving to my county because of the low electricity prices.
cptwott
Cheap Power and huge mining factories, like in China
vg8ts
And Venezuela at one point
HarryBlackstoneCopperfieldDresden
I tell everyone who wants to get into it, "Who do you think benefits the most from cryptos? Entrepreneurs or state-run operations in (1)
HarryBlackstoneCopperfieldDresden
sanctioned countries whose own currency can't be used as freely? Who do you think holds the lion's share of cryptos? And what do you (2)
HarryBlackstoneCopperfieldDresden
think they are going to do with it?" That usually slows people down. (3)
AnAccountToPostThis
Recently I saw an article that said it was just discovered that cryptos are being used for child sex trafficking as if it didnt start....
HarryBlackstoneCopperfieldDresden
There are calculators out there you can plug in a card model, the crypto, and the cost of electricity in your area and tell you how much (1)
HarryBlackstoneCopperfieldDresden
you can expect to net. Even at $0.25/kwh, you can expect to profit $100+/mo mining the popular cryptos like BTC or ETH. Although (2)
ThatsMySecretCapImAlwaysHorny
Not on BTC you won't. ETH was designed to be too difficult to do on ASICs though, so GPUs are OK.
HarryBlackstoneCopperfieldDresden
confidence in the crypto market has slipped significantly in the last couple weeks, so as of the moment, it might not be profitable. (3)
glaze1776
Solar power is common now
ToastDNA
They just hope the price of the crypto explodes. Wiping out all electricity cost.
jn2guru
People mortgaged their homes to invest, so with all that maybe the real economy will too
Vedar
Stolen power or cheap power
AndrewCanadian
It's not too bad. I have one ASIC miner for LiteCoin. I'm on track to make about $200 profit per month. 0.13/kWh on peak. 0.07 off.
AnAccountToPostThis
And whats your ROI with that monthly profit? Im guessing "longer than the crypto fad will last"
AndrewCanadian
7.5 months. Hopefully the cryptofad will hold out until I can make some decent money!
AnAccountToPostThis
Theres no way in hell you bought an ASIC mining rig for $1500. A gtx 1080ti goes for $1100 alone right now. ASIC is well over 3k
AndrewCanadian
AntMiner L3+ with a coupon from BitMain. Used some bonus money from work so I really didn't feel it in the wallet at all.
Nikolaj
I'm getting pretty bored of people asking me to help them build a PC and then having to tell them to go buy one instead because it's cheaper
Dentalrape
I'm tired of people asking me to help them build a pc then ruining the GPU mining crypto with it.
theDogter
Bought one recently for my kid. Had a GPU in it. Gold Jerry gold.
AleksandrBlazkowicz
Same, I just want to get a 1080 for a decent price.
Dentalrape
Good luck friend
Throrf
Ahh, it's funny cause cryptos are in a downtrend and there's no guarantee they'll keep going up :)
BatmansUnderPantsAreSoSoft
No, you tell them they're going to have to pay a little more so they're still getting high quality build and not a piece of prebuilt junk
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Nikolaj
Correct - Some rebuilt IS junk but most isn't AND it comes with a warranty. Hard to beat that when home built is without that and costs more
AnHonestLiar
Mate have you seen the GPU market? You can either get a 1080 or a high-mid prebuilt. It's a card versus a computer.
YenrabFromBlackMesa
i was looking for this comment. thank you.
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YenrabFromBlackMesa
Elitism? Cause I bought parts before the crypto shit and like customizing my PC im an elitist? Are people who build custom cars elitists too
YenrabFromBlackMesa
Fuck me for wanting quality I guess. Fuck me enjoying something.
MickeyTheHound
I heard nvidia is making a mining card. Same base stuff without the graphics power.
Einbrecher
Won't change anything until supply > demand.
VodkaReindeer
You heard wrong.
4FingeredBandit
Won't work tho, miners will still buy the regular ones for resale value
Templarfreak
Regular cards used for mining doesn't have much resale value to begin with because they're massive overstressed and won't last.
GoodBadGibus
I thought that crypto mining was so resource intensive that it wears down the hardware after some months. If that's true and 1/2
dashers
Fan bearings wear out, that's all. You can replace fans.
Templarfreak
Not true. The GPU itself can wear down through overuse just like any other computing component.
Ulthirm
Yeah its true, it burns the GPU out, you can repair alot of it but its just usually not worth the effort. They'll be selling large
Ulthirm
sums of these cards and places like eBay will implement protect security rules (You must declare what the product was used for) due to
GoodBadGibus
Mining eventually drops off then the market would be flooded with dodgy second hand cards that nobody would want to buy.
4FingeredBandit
Tearing down the price of gpu's with it. It's going to be a glorious wave of burnt out gpu's
AnnoyingBlueKobold
You are correct! I'm from the future! Cheap dodgy cards everywhere
ForgotMyOtherAcct
Yeah, buying used gpus is already super risky. I wouldn't do it without return policies period.
snipekill1997
Maybe by idiots but mining actually is most efficient when the card is cool (where the effective lifetime of all the electrical (1)
MOTHERFUCKINGLUCIFERMORNINGSTAR
There are rumors that their next series of cards won't be able to mine in order to actually get gpus to gamers and clear out 10 series stock
snipekill1997
Literally impossible plus why would they exclude a massive amount of their market?
quillfreminenti
Because by buying up all of the card so that there are none left, people are turning to other companies that make cheaper, less intense 1/2
EBRisTheFastUSAMotorcycle
Mining is not going to be a lasting market with how blockchain is evolving. The 1st GPU company to limit it will gain intense gamer loyalty
MOTHERFUCKINGLUCIFERMORNINGSTAR
Literally not impossible and they aren't excluding their market. They want to make separate hash cards for miners and sell gpus separately.
DetectiveSloth
gamers yell louder than miners
KojiKnight
Here's the thing... Those mining cards are still using the same parts, being manufactured in the same facilities, and thus still 1/?
KojiKnight
Going to interfere with the graphics market. The mining cards will only take up slots for real graphics cards and they can't even be 2/?
KojiKnight
Resold or repurposed for use in PCs after the miner has upgraded to something else. It's a huge waste of time, money, and silicon.
RepostNazi1337
My friend bought a 2400g last week, vega 11 runs gta V, pubg, and cod 3 pretty well.
idontlikepickingusername
I've destroyed a couple of Vega 64s, a 56, and Fury X this week...
Vivificus
Putting mine together tonight
Nikolaj
For light weight 'gaming' they're alright, but if you want any noticeable eye candy, or a resolution above 1080p, they just don't cut it.
RepostNazi1337
Yup, but whats funny is that a few people have used the integrated graphics to mine and it did sadly well.
Nikolaj
That won't become mainstream since you can't stack them tall like you can with dedicated, you'd need a mobo and ram for each chip.
DidYouJustAssumeMyGerder
yet no one talks about the memory shortage...
Markuspsyches
Must have forgotten about it
370zJustin
That’s cause no one remembers it
DidYouJustAssumeMyGerder
lol its a current problem, not past
370zJustin
Good thing I bought my 16gb of ram when there was no shortage then
Thristen
UsagiTheRabbit
MaraHyena
That's not what's making 200$ cards cost 500$ though. By it self, it'd only make it cost 235- not 500.
DidYouJustAssumeMyGerder
greedy retailers are
phobosorbust
Capitalism at work.
EBRisTheFastUSAMotorcycle
Most of it is resellers. Microcenter is selling them in store for just a hair over MSRP, 1 per customer. Newegg and Amazon are selling 1/2
EBRisTheFastUSAMotorcycle
2/2 at retail price but they are being bought out and resold through the same site by 3rd parties.
DidYouJustAssumeMyGerder
Newegg is not selling at retail...not even close
EBRisTheFastUSAMotorcycle
The sellers are all 3rd party. I watched a shipment of MSI 1080ti go up FROM newegg for $950 and they were sold out in seconds.
KernalMustard
Can someone PLEASE explain what crypto minging is and how it ruins cards ? Also can it affect me?
sam51998
https://youtu.be/uT-pP4wvLV8
SandyTentaclez
So it doesn't affect you unless you want to buy a new gpu.
HarryBlackstoneCopperfieldDresden
It doesn't ruin them - it requires them. There's actually a few kinds of hashing, but the most popular one benefits more from GPU (1)
Templarfreak
It massively overuses the GPUs, really pushing them to their limits, and when they go to resell them they'll last like a day.
HarryBlackstoneCopperfieldDresden
power than CPU or RAM. The rush of numpties trying to get into mining buy all the GPUs that come available, causing a shortage. (2)
AnAccountToPostThis
Heat ruins cards. Mining rigs run several cards in one box at full tilt non stop. They get very hot and degrade very quickly.
snipekill1997
Nope. The cards use way more electricity hot so miners limit them to like 70-80% power and get like 90-95% the max mining.
AnAccountToPostThis
Running right at the edge of thermal throttling it terrible for cards. Learn about the hardware you're abusing.
snipekill1997
Who said anything about thermal throttling? You run them a fair bit below that point like 70-75C where the big thermal throttle is at 83C.
Kassimila
Miner Here: My Cards never go above 50C, but ok :p
AnAccountToPostThis
Then you're either spending a ton on cooling (which means less or no profit) or running them so low that your ROI is infinite.
Kassimila
6 GPU rig, open air cooled, fans set to 65%. You can limit down power without using hashrate. The last 40 watts gets you very little.
Kassimila
Profit is about 300 bucks a month atm, but sure I'm sure you know what you're talking about.
AnAccountToPostThis
I've met and talked to a lot of miners just like you. You all think your setups are absolutely perfect to the point of defying physics. Nope
KinkAccount
The mining needs processing power, and the more the better. So miners buy lots of good gpu' s which increases their price
Templarfreak
It's not necessarily the processing power. GPUs are especially good at mining because it takes them a lot less time to calculate some of the
Templarfreak
complex math needed to mine.
Templarfreak
A CPU could have much more processing power, but because of the way GPUs handle certain math they'll generally be faster no matter what.
hiddedobbinga
Just look at the gtx 1060, i bought the 6gb version before for 320 euros, the 3gb version is 1.5 times that nowadays
geiokami
Not true, I bought a 6gb 1060 this year for $300 from nvidia
Corrodias
That's because nvidia is trying to combat the unavailability by selling a few cards occasionally at MSRP, but that *is* below market value.
Corrodias
That you can find one person who will occasionally sell at a discount doesn't make it "not true" to say that the *standard* price is higher.
KernalMustard
Ohhh. And what is mining
SmolTenk
Using processing power to create cryptocurrencies. The prices of some of them are currently way above their worth so people try to make>
SmolTenk
Quick money off it.
4FingeredBandit
Using your system's gpu to run the algorithm's needed for a bitcoin transaction which is then rewarded for bitcoin
KernalMustard
Soo it fakes transaction to give you some?
VenserArtifice
Supply & demand. The rise in people using GPUs to mine cryptocurrencies for profit has made GPUs more expensive for everyone. 1.
VenserArtifice
As for what it is, mining cryptocurrency is the verb used for the act of making it. the tech behind it, blockchain, is 2.
VenserArtifice
ridiculously complicated in the basic premise. However, it can be used to make decentralized digital currencies 3.
VenserArtifice
that are extremely hard to counterfeit because they are made of some really weird math. 4.