Nov 12, 2016 9:41 AM
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CChowder
Keith Ellison is one of our good Minnesota politicians dotchya know. All MN politicians are pretty good. Except Ventura.
orangearcadi
Ellison shouldn't be DNC Chair, at least not while he's a sitting Representative. Both positions need to be treated as full-time jobs.
HalfAmazingHalfTerrific
"Everyone"- small portion of people upset about results. Don't over generalize, man. It doesn't help.
jakssupernova
I just want to know what Keith Ellison stands for before this happens. What if there is someone I feel is better for that position?
GUNxSPECTRE
I will follow the old sage to the ends of the earth. We probably should've a long time ago.
justlivinthedream
But, but ... Bernie's not even a Democrat anymore?
GreatAide
Isn't that crazy
TheSisko
He never was.
tankdog420
"While everyone is rioting, literally shaking or moving"....bro, I voted trump. Shit is straight.
PleaseMrLewisIsMyFatherImDoctorLewis
Maybe he meant shaking for joy. Are you shaking for joy?
Not really. I'm just optimistic.
shinydev
So Bernie likes the idea but so does little baby rapist. Do these cancel so I have to make up my own mind? Sounds suspiciously like work.
DbzFanZero
Never let a good crisis go to waste...
FeelingAverage
The Democratic party as a whole is likely to make wholesale changes after this election. One of the very few beneficial things about it.
NOINITIATIVE
I hope so, the party been soft on the left front since RFK's assassination, nominating only moderates, that's why Bernie was exciting 1/2
2/2 he wasn't afraid to push the envelope. And if the demographics of election show anything, it's that people under 30 are moving to left
mechanicalchaos
I agree. It was wildly disheartening to see proof emerge of them breaking the law and *nothing* happen. That's why so many didn't vote.
la5678
Holy crap, it wasn't rigged, it wasn't fraud, the DNC and RNC are private entities, they can endorse who they want. I know its ugly but cmon
ikjadoon
Right? For fuck's sake, yes, I'm a progressive who likes "law and order" in our primary process. I don't like debate questions being leaked.
Queuellioklif
Why would anyone still support.the DNC? .now is the time to step up and start a fringe group.a democratic tea party if you will..
The Democratic Socialists, maybe? Ya know, the group that Bernie was in until last year, but nobody room seriously?
SirChadwellHeath
The Latte party?
BattloidKouji
And it sounds like they're gonna choose Brazile. I supported clinton all through her terrible campaign, but if they don't make changes (1)
then I'm out. If they can't see why they lost this election, they're doomed to be the minority party for a long time. (2)
Brazile isn't running again, IIRC.
Oh thank god.
RHFiesling
and that is how it is done
PineappleSlam
v
JoshBoli
Does it count as a political revolution if it's just in the DNC? Sounds more like a restructuring of leadership.
Wombatish
Wanted to stop reading at 'everybody else'. Hyperbole to prop your case is gross.
Iwasoutedbyatroll
Howard Dean has been putting his name out there, too. That is what we need, another loser in charge.
Ellison has support of Schumer, Warren, Sanders. The top Dems in D.C. Ellison needs some groundswell, tho, so contact your local DNC.
CapitalizingOnTheAbsenseOfAReasonableUsernameCharacterLimit
What's wrong with Howard Dean? Genuine question.
He ran a terrible presidential campaign believe me it wasn't just that one soundbite
What'd he do?
CulpaScintilla
Speak for yourself, Bernie makes me want to move away....to Vermont.
BondHaimBond
That's where I vacation. It's noice.
AFoxInTheWires
"Everybody"... smh
VodkaReindeer
It's cute how you assume that we know who that is.
Co-chair of Progressive Caucus in Congress. Change DNC from fundarising to advocacy. Also this, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHkPadFK34o
dreamerofevil
I'm one of those 250,000!
Snooj
Define "everybody else".
GooBa25
How about a hero we can trust. Ken bone
FezezAreCool
We need a change of face, badly. This guy is awesome in every sense.
potatoesmakemeveryhappy
Hats off to him. All the people still squealing on social media or rioting in the streets should follow his example.
candiduscorvus
Once again, Bernie was the right choice. Democrats who supported Hillary over him are part of the problem.
heinzbitte
So people who supported the candidate that they liked more are the problem!
[deleted]
yes, because the over-30 generations did such a top notch job handling the nation and voting in the current predicament we now have
I've met alot of conservatives that said they would have voted for Sanders due to his integrity, and I reside in a very conservative region
chaoslordjiro
People who allowed themselves to be manipulated by the sensationalist 'Both sides are bad!' bullshit were the problem.
THANK YOU! I was saying that for months, and it's like now people are like "oh...wait, I think I get it now"
Sventhy
Wait, both sides weren't bad?
damspam
Bad is a sliding scale. Stubbing my toe is bad. Getting fucked in the ass by a flaming cactus is also bad. Not all bad is equal bad.
Wastyvez
Exactly it's why the "omg media bias" argument pisses me off so much. If they were really pro-Clinton they wouldn't have played into that.
TheGhostofElizabethShue
You remember how you guys always criticised Bernie's guys of being naive? Is this the first time you've heard people are manipulable?
Chimichanga007
*able to be manipulated. a good substitute is malleable, a metaphor tho :-)
Malleable! Dammit, that was the word I wanted. But manipulable is a real word, I looked it up. Manipulatable is the error.
whoa thanks for the learning :-)
Clorophyle
I think republicans that didn't vote for Trump, would have voted him, just because Bernie would have changed things a lot more than Hillary.
Hillary was basically a republican. She (and Trump) proved that people value personality over policy, and Bernie has personality in spades.
Nah Clinton is a New Democrat. Socially progressive while also protecting the interests of big money.
Also the Hawkishness. She's Republican without the acidic religious shit that turns off centrists. Diet Republican.
That was the most on-point part of the SNL mock debate: "Who are you gonna believe, the republican, or Donald Trump?"
Side bar: one upside of the result is more Kellyanne Conway sketches: https://youtu.be/Zjbc15X1zSM
LinearAlgebro
Republicans won the house, senate, and presidency. People want a more Republican government.
You might want to stay out of what the people want, seeing as about 400,000 more of them voted for Clinton. Also split tickets are common.
Split tickets were not common this year: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/there-were-no-purple-states-on-tuesday/ And 400k out of 60mil?
Pumili
it is always easier to cry about something rather than fixing it. gosh i love that he wont stop doing good
cleverbeans
I could fix this if I had enough firepower but large scale explosives and artillery are typically not accessible to civilians.
Showmeyourotters
I kinda feel like all anyone needs to start moving on from this is to be shown where to start instead of being chided.
RockerFoxes
He took time to say "look, we will work with our opponents if it's something to improve everyone's lives", that is a sign of maturity.
IJustLikeToArgue
It's almost like it's his job to keep working, seeing as he's still a Senator and all.
tumblebuggy
I love how he lavishly uses campaign funds for family. http://exedra-roma.boscolohotels.com/
Truly sticking it to the 1% by living the 1% lifestyle off other people.
http://exedra-roma.boscolohotels.com/ http:/">ls.com/">http://exedra-roma.boscolohotels.com/ http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?201606209019066103
ImNotCreativeEnoughForAGoodUsername
Hey guys I know we love Bernie Sanders and we trust him a ton but maybe we should see who this guy is first?
...but that seems like work...
gunn
Like being a Muslim. Doesn't bother me, but I know it's gonna bother a lot of people
In the liberal Democratic area? Could be helpful honestly. I meant more about his policies etc
The continual campaign finance issues are rather worrying (even if the rules are dumb you follow them), but everything else seems bueno. *c*
*c* He's - relatively - junior and could be - mostly improperly - shaded as an 'extreme' pick by the opposition, but that all matters *c*
*c* way less for the chair than elsewhere.
AdamantlyDislikingAllDogs
For those interested: http://pac.petitions.moveon.org/sign/appoint-keith-ellison?source=none&fb_test=0
shrekimgur
Thanks fam
theonetruewill
Done and shared!
ButterscotchSquats
Just signed, thanks for the link :)
IAmMelonLordMwahahahaha
thank you!
MissionToRumyunyunsunsun
i think we crashed the site gang
AuroraNora33
Thank you. Op why u no gib sauce?
pmMEurSOBstories
This petition is at 25,000 people? Is OP off by a factor of 10?
ForgottenTaco
well op posted a link, he did not make it
leorex
There's myriad petitions, the 250k number is probably from Bernie's page: https://go.berniesanders.com/page/s/keith-ellison-dnc
AHorticulturistIsJustANerdyGardener
Honestly: my only knowledge of Ellison is the wiki page I just read. Seems legit. His "Reichstag Fire" comparison to how the executive
5) And using the Thomas Jefferson's Qur'an to be sworn in - whether style or historic significance, it's over 9000. More reading needed, but
3) in the early 20s. I dislike his co-sponsoring of the Cheney bill that was to "send a message." I mean I REALLY dislike it - but I'm from
2) branch gained power post-9/11 - spot on. Won't knock him for writing pro-Farrakhan things in college - plenty of people say dumb things
4) WI and state dems have wasted millions with things like this, so I recognize my bias. (He later denounced the Nation of Islam, btw.)
lawyerboi
He's one of the most far-left members of congress... no better than GOP extremists
I haven't researched him that fully yet. I don't care about many policies on the L-R spectrum. I care about trade and national resources.
6) I dig it. Also, he's from the state in the US that probably has the most in common with mine, and that's a selfish little plus.
doesanyoneevenreadthese
I read all of your comments, and I learned nothing. But thank you?
Well, you learned the baseline opinion I'd formed with a minimal amount of research. :) That's all I was sharing.
Myx0matos1s
Thanks for the info! I remember someone had sworn in with the Jefferson quran. Again: ty for the info!
CChowder
Keith Ellison is one of our good Minnesota politicians dotchya know. All MN politicians are pretty good. Except Ventura.
orangearcadi
Ellison shouldn't be DNC Chair, at least not while he's a sitting Representative. Both positions need to be treated as full-time jobs.
HalfAmazingHalfTerrific
"Everyone"- small portion of people upset about results. Don't over generalize, man. It doesn't help.
jakssupernova
I just want to know what Keith Ellison stands for before this happens. What if there is someone I feel is better for that position?
GUNxSPECTRE
I will follow the old sage to the ends of the earth. We probably should've a long time ago.
justlivinthedream
But, but ... Bernie's not even a Democrat anymore?
GreatAide
Isn't that crazy
TheSisko
He never was.
tankdog420
"While everyone is rioting, literally shaking or moving"....bro, I voted trump. Shit is straight.
PleaseMrLewisIsMyFatherImDoctorLewis
Maybe he meant shaking for joy. Are you shaking for joy?
tankdog420
Not really. I'm just optimistic.
shinydev
So Bernie likes the idea but so does little baby rapist. Do these cancel so I have to make up my own mind? Sounds suspiciously like work.
DbzFanZero
Never let a good crisis go to waste...
FeelingAverage
The Democratic party as a whole is likely to make wholesale changes after this election. One of the very few beneficial things about it.
NOINITIATIVE
I hope so, the party been soft on the left front since RFK's assassination, nominating only moderates, that's why Bernie was exciting 1/2
NOINITIATIVE
2/2 he wasn't afraid to push the envelope. And if the demographics of election show anything, it's that people under 30 are moving to left
mechanicalchaos
I agree. It was wildly disheartening to see proof emerge of them breaking the law and *nothing* happen. That's why so many didn't vote.
la5678
Holy crap, it wasn't rigged, it wasn't fraud, the DNC and RNC are private entities, they can endorse who they want. I know its ugly but cmon
ikjadoon
Right? For fuck's sake, yes, I'm a progressive who likes "law and order" in our primary process. I don't like debate questions being leaked.
Queuellioklif
Why would anyone still support.the DNC? .now is the time to step up and start a fringe group.a democratic tea party if you will..
PleaseMrLewisIsMyFatherImDoctorLewis
The Democratic Socialists, maybe? Ya know, the group that Bernie was in until last year, but nobody room seriously?
SirChadwellHeath
The Latte party?
BattloidKouji
And it sounds like they're gonna choose Brazile. I supported clinton all through her terrible campaign, but if they don't make changes (1)
BattloidKouji
then I'm out. If they can't see why they lost this election, they're doomed to be the minority party for a long time. (2)
ikjadoon
Brazile isn't running again, IIRC.
BattloidKouji
Oh thank god.
RHFiesling
and that is how it is done
PineappleSlam
JoshBoli
Does it count as a political revolution if it's just in the DNC? Sounds more like a restructuring of leadership.
Wombatish
Wanted to stop reading at 'everybody else'. Hyperbole to prop your case is gross.
Iwasoutedbyatroll
Howard Dean has been putting his name out there, too. That is what we need, another loser in charge.
ikjadoon
Ellison has support of Schumer, Warren, Sanders. The top Dems in D.C. Ellison needs some groundswell, tho, so contact your local DNC.
CapitalizingOnTheAbsenseOfAReasonableUsernameCharacterLimit
What's wrong with Howard Dean? Genuine question.
Iwasoutedbyatroll
He ran a terrible presidential campaign believe me it wasn't just that one soundbite
CapitalizingOnTheAbsenseOfAReasonableUsernameCharacterLimit
What'd he do?
CulpaScintilla
Speak for yourself, Bernie makes me want to move away....to Vermont.
BondHaimBond
That's where I vacation. It's noice.
AFoxInTheWires
"Everybody"... smh
VodkaReindeer
It's cute how you assume that we know who that is.
ikjadoon
Co-chair of Progressive Caucus in Congress. Change DNC from fundarising to advocacy. Also this, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHkPadFK34o
dreamerofevil
I'm one of those 250,000!
Snooj
Define "everybody else".
GooBa25
How about a hero we can trust. Ken bone
FezezAreCool
We need a change of face, badly. This guy is awesome in every sense.
potatoesmakemeveryhappy
Hats off to him. All the people still squealing on social media or rioting in the streets should follow his example.
candiduscorvus
Once again, Bernie was the right choice. Democrats who supported Hillary over him are part of the problem.
heinzbitte
So people who supported the candidate that they liked more are the problem!
[deleted]
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NOINITIATIVE
yes, because the over-30 generations did such a top notch job handling the nation and voting in the current predicament we now have
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NOINITIATIVE
I've met alot of conservatives that said they would have voted for Sanders due to his integrity, and I reside in a very conservative region
chaoslordjiro
People who allowed themselves to be manipulated by the sensationalist 'Both sides are bad!' bullshit were the problem.
NOINITIATIVE
THANK YOU! I was saying that for months, and it's like now people are like "oh...wait, I think I get it now"
Sventhy
Wait, both sides weren't bad?
damspam
Bad is a sliding scale. Stubbing my toe is bad. Getting fucked in the ass by a flaming cactus is also bad. Not all bad is equal bad.
Wastyvez
Exactly it's why the "omg media bias" argument pisses me off so much. If they were really pro-Clinton they wouldn't have played into that.
TheGhostofElizabethShue
You remember how you guys always criticised Bernie's guys of being naive? Is this the first time you've heard people are manipulable?
Chimichanga007
*able to be manipulated. a good substitute is malleable, a metaphor tho :-)
TheGhostofElizabethShue
Malleable! Dammit, that was the word I wanted. But manipulable is a real word, I looked it up. Manipulatable is the error.
Chimichanga007
whoa thanks for the learning :-)
Clorophyle
I think republicans that didn't vote for Trump, would have voted him, just because Bernie would have changed things a lot more than Hillary.
TheGhostofElizabethShue
Hillary was basically a republican. She (and Trump) proved that people value personality over policy, and Bernie has personality in spades.
Wastyvez
Nah Clinton is a New Democrat. Socially progressive while also protecting the interests of big money.
TheGhostofElizabethShue
Also the Hawkishness. She's Republican without the acidic religious shit that turns off centrists. Diet Republican.
damspam
That was the most on-point part of the SNL mock debate: "Who are you gonna believe, the republican, or Donald Trump?"
TheGhostofElizabethShue
Side bar: one upside of the result is more Kellyanne Conway sketches: https://youtu.be/Zjbc15X1zSM
LinearAlgebro
Republicans won the house, senate, and presidency. People want a more Republican government.
TheGhostofElizabethShue
You might want to stay out of what the people want, seeing as about 400,000 more of them voted for Clinton. Also split tickets are common.
ikjadoon
Split tickets were not common this year: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/there-were-no-purple-states-on-tuesday/ And 400k out of 60mil?
Pumili
it is always easier to cry about something rather than fixing it. gosh i love that he wont stop doing good
cleverbeans
I could fix this if I had enough firepower but large scale explosives and artillery are typically not accessible to civilians.
Showmeyourotters
I kinda feel like all anyone needs to start moving on from this is to be shown where to start instead of being chided.
RockerFoxes
He took time to say "look, we will work with our opponents if it's something to improve everyone's lives", that is a sign of maturity.
IJustLikeToArgue
It's almost like it's his job to keep working, seeing as he's still a Senator and all.
tumblebuggy
I love how he lavishly uses campaign funds for family. http://exedra-roma.boscolohotels.com/
tumblebuggy
Truly sticking it to the 1% by living the 1% lifestyle off other people.
tumblebuggy
http://exedra-roma.boscolohotels.com/ http:/">ls.com/">http://exedra-roma.boscolohotels.com/ http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?201606209019066103
ImNotCreativeEnoughForAGoodUsername
Hey guys I know we love Bernie Sanders and we trust him a ton but maybe we should see who this guy is first?
NOINITIATIVE
...but that seems like work...
gunn
Like being a Muslim. Doesn't bother me, but I know it's gonna bother a lot of people
ImNotCreativeEnoughForAGoodUsername
In the liberal Democratic area? Could be helpful honestly. I meant more about his policies etc
Wombatish
The continual campaign finance issues are rather worrying (even if the rules are dumb you follow them), but everything else seems bueno. *c*
Wombatish
*c* He's - relatively - junior and could be - mostly improperly - shaded as an 'extreme' pick by the opposition, but that all matters *c*
Wombatish
*c* way less for the chair than elsewhere.
AdamantlyDislikingAllDogs
For those interested: http://pac.petitions.moveon.org/sign/appoint-keith-ellison?source=none&fb_test=0
shrekimgur
Thanks fam
theonetruewill
Done and shared!
ButterscotchSquats
Just signed, thanks for the link :)
IAmMelonLordMwahahahaha
thank you!
MissionToRumyunyunsunsun
i think we crashed the site gang
AuroraNora33
Thank you. Op why u no gib sauce?
pmMEurSOBstories
This petition is at 25,000 people? Is OP off by a factor of 10?
ForgottenTaco
well op posted a link, he did not make it
leorex
There's myriad petitions, the 250k number is probably from Bernie's page: https://go.berniesanders.com/page/s/keith-ellison-dnc
AHorticulturistIsJustANerdyGardener
Honestly: my only knowledge of Ellison is the wiki page I just read. Seems legit. His "Reichstag Fire" comparison to how the executive
AHorticulturistIsJustANerdyGardener
5) And using the Thomas Jefferson's Qur'an to be sworn in - whether style or historic significance, it's over 9000. More reading needed, but
AHorticulturistIsJustANerdyGardener
3) in the early 20s. I dislike his co-sponsoring of the Cheney bill that was to "send a message." I mean I REALLY dislike it - but I'm from
AHorticulturistIsJustANerdyGardener
2) branch gained power post-9/11 - spot on. Won't knock him for writing pro-Farrakhan things in college - plenty of people say dumb things
AHorticulturistIsJustANerdyGardener
4) WI and state dems have wasted millions with things like this, so I recognize my bias. (He later denounced the Nation of Islam, btw.)
lawyerboi
He's one of the most far-left members of congress... no better than GOP extremists
AHorticulturistIsJustANerdyGardener
I haven't researched him that fully yet. I don't care about many policies on the L-R spectrum. I care about trade and national resources.
AHorticulturistIsJustANerdyGardener
6) I dig it. Also, he's from the state in the US that probably has the most in common with mine, and that's a selfish little plus.
doesanyoneevenreadthese
I read all of your comments, and I learned nothing. But thank you?
AHorticulturistIsJustANerdyGardener
Well, you learned the baseline opinion I'd formed with a minimal amount of research. :) That's all I was sharing.
Myx0matos1s
Thanks for the info! I remember someone had sworn in with the Jefferson quran. Again: ty for the info!