CeleryMan7
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Feb 5, 2022 2:32 AM
CeleryMan7
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CheekyNameHere
Didn't it come from the Silat martial art in the Pacific islands?
AuthorityControl
It's one of the secrets of nihm
mastertmo
And I believe they're called flamberge. At least, somewhere they are.
UnBobaLievable
It's actually a smart way to maximize the cutting surface presented to an enemy. Curve cuts more than straight, more curve = more cut
WeaponizedJerk
That’s a load of horsecock. A wavy blade won’t cut any worse than a regular blade.
Thanshin
The real answer lays on cutting edge angles, and it's too long for this format.
Sennox
Soul Reaver
gooberthehat
DangerTrain
Tumblr is a great place to find made-up facts.
AsidRayne1245
Imagine serrations on a knife vs a straight blade.. biig difference when slicing.
Semphir
When you say wiggly sword. I think of those asian swords i see in movies that are actually wiggly... This is just a curvy sword
MySpiritAnimalIsTheUnpopularOpinionPuffin
I know the Soul Reaver when I see it.
JonWallace1985
For medieval mall ninjas.
Arkentra
If it's the clash that gives it the advantage, couldn't the opponent just parry instead?
superbob201
You don't stop your opponents blade with a parry, you push it aside. If it is moving forward, it is shaking your blade while it does so.
BautaStein
I dont know of any treatises that mention them. There is a rapier variation for fencing but the vibration claim is somewhat dubious
jjw9
Flamberger rapier tests. Forged in Fire found 2/2 will cut and keel … https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=looYcwoAazY
cuprohastes
Also if you wear gloves you can straight up grab someone else's sword. Unless it's wavy. In which case good bye fingies.
PerpetuityPhoto
Also good for chopping swings. Rather than hitting with a long flat blade, you're essentially stabbing someone a dozen times.
Racealistic
Also called a serpent sword
ParanoidCarrot
tobe honest you could stich the wounds.. that part is bullshit
Shyamallama
lmao my first ever hospital shift had me stitching together the ground meat of some poor dude's leg post-chainsaw. Clean cuts are easy.
ParanoidCarrot
true but you still do it. to the best of your abilities. and flbarge does much more clean cuts than a chain saw
Xaldyn
It's also surprisingly decent for dex builds.
Prinzka
UO?
KinkExpert
You're thinking of a kryss in UO. Think Xaldyn was referring to Dark Souls for the Flamberge.
boditube1337
1 v 1 useful maybe. In a war? No. Any wigly part or corners would get stuck in your opponents body making it harder to pull out
madeejit
This looks expensive - a status symbol for a wealthy man? He probably had people to get to get killed for him, wouldn't do it himself.
Sidewaysgts
What’re you basing this on? Do you have any sources? I’d love to read about it.
eggmuffin
+1 for recognizing the distinction between military use and civillian use.
ShitIstoleFrom4chan
Pretty sure most of this is made up. Specially the vibrations part.
YoSamiteSam
If a skilled duelist is within range of making an attack you better hope you've already killed him. Real swordfights are about 1/2 a second.
RobertTheBruise
Oscillation may be a better word, but I'd think both blades are equally affected.
TheFallenTwo
The vibrations would probably be the same as with two straight swords hitting, and it would affect both fighters more or less equally
RoyalWithChz
It’s completely made up other than them being good for showing off. They do not cut better. At all. Vibration bit seems bs, too
Dogsaladsalad
The flame blade style was pretty much exclusively for looking cool and showing off ones wealth
Dogsaladsalad
it mostly is. although flamberges (flamergi...flambergeses?) were quite the flex.
ShitIstoleFrom4chan
Yeah. But the idea that a clash would send vibrations to hurt the enemies hand but somehow not your own, sounds very... anime.
justhereforthemimes
I really want to test this now
hammersquirrel
Newton's third law hadn't been invented yet
Axelxdisepic
You see curvy sword has more mass than straight sword which means more thumping /s
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NotSoSmartAlek
longer cut, though
LasseFin
Uncorrect. ER told that that cut in my hand looked like made with scalpel instead of Spyderco Harpy. Very clean cut.
confessionalclown
Ok, look, there are some serrated knives that are a step above. Was told the same with my matriarch T_T
severice
I recall something about armor pen being better because it puts more pressure on the points.
FlyingButtPliers
My MA instructor had a few swords like that. He just said the curves give you more angles to cut people and trends to cut deeper easier.
JeffyWeffy
Like the Egyptian khopesh
MushroomFiend
Also iirc serrated knives aren't great for combat. WW1 engineer knives were serrated (sawback) for the purpose of woodcutting.
MushroomFiend
https://youtu.be/ckNWB8nC1TU
TheBreadlord
Depends how straight you strike though. You could end up leaving a series of straight cuts.
gordy77
You can cut through a plastic bottle with a dull sword at the proper angle
ThomasThundersword
it would however give some advantage on edge retention (like serrated kitchen knives, tho not as good) the bulge of the waves may blunt>
ThomasThundersword
or chip some on contact with armor or shields, but if you get a clean strike in on flesh or a drawing cut, the inner curve if the waves>
ThomasThundersword
would would not have been taking so many impacts, would still be well sharp. this is negated some by the sliding tactic edge on edge tho.
AstralInfinity
How WOULD you sharpen this? I am curious...
eggmuffin
You give it to the apprentice. Then he spends a full day doing it by hand.
DoctorSniffles
Carefully
Arkentra
Small whetstones were pretty common. Soldiers probably took them along on long marches. They could probably sharpen a Flamberg, easily.
HopefullyStillYourSuperman
Exactly this. Source: I’m a bladesmith and have made flamberge weapons.
shimmerkitten
Have you ever wielded them in the heat of battle though?
HopefullyStillYourSuperman
No. I have tested them on targets through and actually do practice fencing. The benefits listed in the post are…largely inaccurate.
shimmerkitten
Noice. I'm jelly.
AstralInfinity
Thank you, both. This looks really cool!
ImCommanderShepardandthisismyfavoritepostonthefrontpage
Out of curiosity since you're as close to an expert as I'll find, what is the difference between the Indonesian Kris and the flamberge?
HopefullyStillYourSuperman
(A smith more versed than myself might bring up more differences, but those are what immediately occurred to me)
HopefullyStillYourSuperman
A few differences. A traditional keris can actually be straight or curvy. And curvy ones usually have a straight section near the tip. 1
HopefullyStillYourSuperman
(At least in examples I have seen. I talk with a lot of traditional smiths in the Philippines and Indonesia, but I myself am not from there)