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heebiejeepie
We won't mention the diesel smog test scam.
mcduff73
For tjose without historical context ford was founded by a raging anti semite....
Bustopher
Major Ivan Hirst
t0mn8r
"visuonary"?
jringo10163rd
Mitsubishi made the Zeros( fighter planes)the kamikazed the US ships
Paulier73
Ford was a Nazi supporting anti semite so not such a nice bloke.
thecakefartisalie
Shouldn't be to proud of Henry Ford
lickmyfiddlestick
Whatever dude. Ford gave so much money to the Nazis anyway
klean9
clgcoAppClicker
Just a reminder that VW production actually started under the British army after 1945.
squishybaker
the OG bug is hitlers, VAG is porsche, piech and the british REME.
Scorlord
Hitler only read a few books in prison. Henry Ford's was one of them. He's not a great man.
Cowfister
Ferdinand Porsche.
internetphd
Just a reminder that Ford was a huge anti-semite and admired Hitler and the Nazis.
SirFrancisI
"Oh, lord mister Ford, I just wish that you could see, what youre simple horseless carriage has become!" Jerry Reed
Planet11202
"Ich wurde für Hilter gemacht" VW
MattHolmberg
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_International_Jew a little publication ford put out. ford was classy af.
AtsaMattaForMe
MarkPenrice
Volkswagen didn't exist until after WW2, and was only founded after Morris of England was offered, and turned down the option to take over
MarkPenrice
the KdF works that was nominally producing the Volkswagen car (but was really more devoted to war machines and only made a few hundred VWs)
Syko73
If you can trace your family back 200 years (especially if they had and kept money that whole time) your family was into some awful shit!
kroker79
I don't get it... someone explain ?
shantytownking
Revergo
I wouldn't brag about Henry Ford either
MagicalUnicornsareamazing
Thank you! He was awarded a metal from Hitler for hating the Hewish population. WTF
MagicalUnicornsareamazing
*Jewish
PeterTried
Fun fact: a Dutch car museum has the first model Toyota on display, something that’s missing in Japan. Toyota tried to smooch things by 1/2
PeterTried
giving them Toyodas original work desk. That’s now positioned proudly next to the first Toyota, still at the Dutch car museum.
Jahoor
Which museum?
PeterTried
Lauwman https://nl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louwman_Museum
PeterTried
Lauwman is a fun museum, not only for petrol-heads and grease monkeys.
JesusWoAisuruKokoro
V is vav in Hebrew, which is also numerical value of 6. VW = 3Vs. The number is 666. Just ask Hitler, he will say yes.
zombiejedediah
It's not that bad a car, really.
hobbyColorKing
I've always thought it was funny how the VW bug and Van were such symbols of hippies and free love. But created by Nazis.
TypeIV
It's not like 100% of everything they did was horrific. They would have never gained popularity that way. VW just made vehicles for 1/
TypeIV
Them. Just like Mercedes, Mitsubishi, Saab, rolls Royce, GM, Boeing, basically everyone made war material for their countries.
DrRad
No. Ford is still apologizing for how awful Henry Ford was.
SneakECoyote
Yeah he wasn't a great guy
Madethisusernameforonereason
Got that right. Fordlandia, here we come!
UncleFatherSantaTeddy
Ferdinand Porsche designed their first car
BlastingRopeToWaluigiHentai
And served time in prison for war crimes.
hairytrigga
And designed the most unreliable armoured vehicle ever, the Elephant heavy tank destroyer.
Alkuam2
IIRC his tiger prototype caught fire during the demonstration.
dogneely
Don't forget the maus
onlyhalfghost
The Maus worked just fine, all two of them. It was just a bad idea.
Gatzarlok
When you think porche, you don't think... top speed of a whole 13 mph
ArchangelArtist
Not really. .. he finalised Adolfs plans. Never forget that Hitler made the original design.
viva93
no tatra did. they stole heavily from tatra, were being sued over it but then they took over czech and suspended the lawsuit
viva93
in fact hitler was always enamoured with tatra. he made the head tatra engineer work with porsche until they just up and cut tatra out.
brovira
this gets my up-vote because I was going to point out how the design was stolen, then they just kept morphing the design forever.
viva93
mad ups my man. not even morphing. they didnt really change much till the 70's.
delta19051702
Yeah, I don't understand the meme either lol. Porsche did business with the Nazis, sure, but...lol
BESTtaylorINAUSTRALIA
It'll be difficult not to work for Nazis during the reign.
RobertZimmermanWasRight
Volkswagen was founded by the Nazis.
Noobgamerdude98
By Hitler himself
ImNotYourLocalDrugDealer
I drive a 2015 passat. Sure is a nice car!
Appel99
Just another friendly reminder of where our rocket scientist first came from.
thatroundheadedkid311
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjDEsGZLbio
onlyhalfghost
Robert Goddard was born in the United States.
Nuttsy
Massachusetts?
onlyhalfghost
Yep.
Nuttsy
Mainly suggested it as a future jape on the matter. Side note: Zhytomyr may be a handy name for the other side of that argument.
MureNos
For those without historical context, Volkswagen was founded by the NAZI regime in Germany. Fanta used to make Coca Cola, until WW2.
YouwontlikewhatIhavetosay
Interesting. Truly TIL moment.
doobiedoobop
I thought Coca Cola invented Fanta to sell to Nazis because they were using so much patriotic advertising sell coke in the west...
bobswarley13
Also wasn’t Henry Ford selling vehicles to said nazis before we joined ww2?
cousteau
Now Coca Cola makes Fanta. How the tides have turned!
dmorulez
Coke made fanta to continue sales there without looking bad.
UncleFatherSantaTeddy
An amalgamation of German workers unions that coalesced under Nazi rule.
fartulence
First they came for the union workers, but I remained silent because I was not a union man.
ParryLost
So that's where Fanta came from.
MureNos
Tomato, potato.
Chipbow
Those are in fact two very different plants
Noughmad
Not very different, they're in the same family. You can even graft them together https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pomato
ImCrappinYouNegative
Then how come they rhyme, huh?! Did you ever think of that? Ha! Checkmate!
Ketheres
Your reasoning is crazy enough to tomato.
Duendes
I don't know enough about this subject to make a better argument
tcc3
This isnt really true.KdF was a Nazi program.Volkswagen wasnt started till after the war, though it leveraged the existing Porche KdF design
IMightBeIntoSomeWeirdStuff
Totally wrong about Fanta https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP-Lrp0mdng
My2Spence
Just to add. Fanta comes from the German word for imagination. They couldn't get the ingredients for coca cola during the war due to 1/2
KnightWhoSaidNi
Fanta comes from Fantasi, which means fantasy, right....?
SolidEdge
Not quite, it's more of a combination between imagination and fantasy. At least in Norwegian (germanic).
AverageNormalGuy19
Yes, Fantasie. And it also means Imagination.
katwa
Almost. It's Phantasie or Fantasie. Fanta is also short for fantastisch.
fnordsensei
the ferocious tribe of tiger people that set up camp in their lobby. 2/2
sgtsyphilis
My2Spence
Blocading, and thus fanta was created as a substitute.
JeffGriffin
Also they never joined the nazi party and gave all profits to coke after the war
crustyjuggler92
That's really interesting thanks! ...Davie?
My2Spence
JRE?
crustyjuggler92
Ha nope, Cress. Read your comment and thought it was cool before seeing your username. Small internet!
Draig1
Hugo Boss made the uniforms. Lots of companies were active during the wars. Perspective = winning side.
zephyruk
Allianz insured the buildings at Auschwitz, cover for damage to buildings etc., and other concentration camps.
SergeyPrkl
like they had a choice. Design these. Or else... and then it really was choice of life and death.
Nibs3
In Hugo Boss's case he was a loyal nazi.
MarkPenrice
Yeah. It doesn't mean they were making those things *well* or *enthusiastically*. Paying lip service to cooperation/collaboration means you
MarkPenrice
stay alive and involved in a position where you can then work to hamper the war effort as much as help it. The ruling party was far from
MarkPenrice
universally loved. Saw an interesting TV doc recently covering all the clever, subtle sabotage & deliberately inefficient (but busy-looking)
potshot
Okay so first of all, you're looking at it from a modern perspective. Back then the war effort and everything that happened was pretty (1)
potshot
much par for the course, at least from a civilian's point of view. When the party came around asking for uniforms, the companies were (2)
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Jburli24
Huh, page not available in 'most European countries'
pugofstardock
This article is not available to European users..... Ironically
srindio
I opened with a VPN but the page wants me to register... And it's not free :(
Fig4th
Thanks...uh.. my friend didn't know that
ErrareHumanumEww
This is marvellous :https://youtu.be/9YhBE9PAmqE
FailedCrate
As a german European, let's continue with BASF, Bayer, Thyssen, Siemens, BMW, .... They were ALL involved in forced labor & KZs.
Iankill
I mean if you really get into it how much better are modern supply lines for rare resources
WeaselSoup
A german european ? To differenciate from the german qhepard
maxstout808
adidas
RackhamTheRed
*cough* Ford *cough*
MureNos
*cough* Preston Bush *cough*
MureNos
*Prescott
FailedCrate
How did Ford work for the Nazis?
JeezusJuice
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=henry+ford+nazi&iie=1 As you will see, he was a fan of the Nazis.
RackhamTheRed
Iirc, he had work done for his company by prisoners in concentration camps.
BigTruckRegularPenis
KZs? Kill zones?
PipettePeon
Konzentrationslager, German for concentration camp.
fartulence
Macintosh was a Nazi vendor.
RelaxEveryone
Hugo Boss
highevolutionary
Who found Volkswagen?
Arrolis
I did, Everytime I ride with my siblings.
drownthesun
Porsche invented it, the NAZIs founded it.
thrustmeimanengineer
I think that's the fairest answer!
SomeDetroitGuy
The German Labor Front: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Labour_Front
DavidBrooker
It wasn't founded by an individual. It was founded by the German Labor Front, which was a device (and component) of the Nazi party, 1/2
DavidBrooker
for the purpose of breaking up trade unions for the benefit of employers. The Nazi Party founded Volkswagen, in short. 2/2
IMayNotReplyToYou
Didn't know that, but my, they did a good job
DasPumpenStrasse
Adolf Volkswagen
Snaltras
Damn you, I'm still fucking laughing at this!
NotTheActualCharlieDay
Snaltras
DasPumpenStrasse
I'll do it again!
Snaltras
I'll upvote again!
NinjaCongo
I love muhder
D3C3PT1C0N4564
BUT BANANA BREAD AT WORK BRO?!?! F*CK YEAHHHH
cousteau
The same one who lost it last night.
KnightWhoSaidNi
Ferdinand Porsche designed it. He later made some other car, too
Evi1Gav
And the king Tiger tank and the Ferdinand tank destroyer
AldermanJaw
In short, the nazis. Volks=people, so a car for people, as opposed to Jews, blacks, etc etc
RabbiKirschbaum
Which blacks?
SergeyPrkl
all of them
RabbiKirschbaum
So both of them?
skiffster
Just a friendly reminder that Ford did business with the Nazis as well.
zyxzevn
Investments in war are booming.
Ultratoxic
I read somewhere that Ford built a tank factory in Germany, then sued the American government when we bombed it. And won.
confanity
He was a huge antisemite and an all-around asshole.
DeinnsBeans
As did IBM and Coca Cola
chalkyblack
Sold the Model T with rasict pamphlets in the glove box
fairwindsforge
Massive anti Semite as well. Porsche actually designed the VW for the Reich.....and tanks too
yourlocaleconomicsnerd
"We look to heinrich Ford as a leading light in the fasict movement in America" Hitler.
yourlocaleconomicsnerd
Meanwhile, Volkswagen was founded by the British AFTER WW2. look it up. I hate this stupid Meme
goatamon
Yep, and Henry Ford was a MASSIVE anti-semite.
Predicto
He was also a raging anti-semite. Interestingly, he also treated his workers better than any other employer of his time. Strange dude.
Predicto
He fucking hated unions, but paid good wages and provided good working conditions (for the time). It's hard to make it all add up.
alexatrf21
And Bosch. And Allianz. And Hugo Boss. And BMW. And Mercedes Benz. And Ferdinand Porsche.
Alkuam2
Flaming tigers.
Xedi22
Most of those are at least German companies. Ford was into the Nazi's and their ideals from the US.
YouMightHateMe
Just a friendly reminder : USA didn't give two shits about the Nazis til Japan started acting like a major dick.
Iatesomecoffeecups
We were at first against war with them, but britain was our ally so we had to help them, even if it was just giving them things at first.
ImCrappinYouNegative
I’m pretty sure we supplied a ton of material support to Great Britain before we actually entered the war. But I’m no historian.
Grebopanda
The US sold Great Britain goods through the war. It was not aid to help fight the Nazis.
ImCrappinYouNegative
Weren’t some of those “goods” aircraft and military hardware?
tiramigiu
in typical wartime fashion you were selling shit to everyone.
YouMightHateMe
Yes.
Alkuam2
flarflarf
that's not really true https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/5uhemd/did_the_us_trade_with_germany_during_ww2_before/
HiddenSanity
Yes and no, although trade with Germany was on the decline due to Hitler and the war, many companies had no qualms taking German money --->
HiddenSanity
-right up until Pearl Harbor. There was quite a bit of not-so-civil discussion about the morality of selling to Nazi Germany, but --->
HiddenSanity
'Gold carries no sins' and all that, many individuals were also outright supporters of the Nazis and such(Although news of the holocaust--->
FinnAndJakesTreeHouse
Henry Ford had a signed picture of Adolf Hitler on his desk up until the war started actually
DasPumpenStrasse
Gayish?
fartulence
As did IBM.
jbcars4life
So did a shitload of companies before the war broke out
JaceCameron
So did Coca Cola. Fanta is Nazi pop.
Panzerkeks85
Ford sold anything to anyone. When the Germans invaded Russia they could use spare parts from Soviet trucks on their own vehicles.
Paoloc0mments
I think a lot of Americans did nazi that coming.
YouJustGotRickRolled
He wrote a book titled The International Jew: The World's Foremost Problem-Abridged Edition [Henry Ford]
eromitlab
Makes sense, Henry Ford was anti-Semitic and pushed the Protocols of the Elders of Zion in a newspaper his franchises were required to have.
azazyel
So did the designer Hugo Boss
tiramigiu
yeah but hugo boss is a german company, you'd expect that.
azazyel
Yeah but not many people know that they made the uniforms for the Nazis.
yourlocaleconomicsnerd
Look. An SS officer comes to your factory and tells you to make army gear. You gonna say no?
Colopty
It's probably the most well known factoid about the nazis.
BionicBeach
I think that’s an extremely well known factoid
Coolspacemarine
To be fair a lot of other people did business with the Third Riech, almost like it was a major industrial power before the war started.
Totallyscrewedinaustin
Before the war started for the US*
Brones
Im pretty sure he and Hitler had each others portraits in their offices... Or at least one of them did...
7HIris
True. But Ford was pretty much an actual Nazi
Xedi22
Ford was really into it...
Coolspacemarine
Yeah I know, ain't gonna lie here but Ford really didn't like Jews, like, really didn't like them.
Gurkenherr
If you didnt do buisness with the Nazis Back then you didnt do buisness..
Coolspacemarine
That's kinda what the was saying ain't it.
NinjablazerZero
Yes, byt Ford was especially enthusiastic about his support for the Nazis, including after the war started.
Eiladar
I do love JRR Tolkien's response when they tried to co-opt him due to his German heritage. (Spoiler, he referred to Hitler as
Eiladar
“that ruddy little ignoramus")
AssistantToTheRegionalManagerDwightSchrute
The caveat is that Ford did business with Nazi Germany AFTER the US entered the war
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socratesboytoy
Aw fuck yeah its apple pie season
Rhulain
Slavery isnt 'American'
keebs63
Don't know who downvoted this, only like 6% of slaves taken from Africa arrived in the U.S. (though not to downplay the importance, 1/2
Irreal
Neither is apple pie
NeverMetAGoodMod
America LOVED business with the Nazis. Tattoo you see on Jewish concentration camp survivors? An IBM sorting code.
cjandstuff
They had a lot of great ideas! Like eugenics. America loved it... Wait, that's not a great idea. In fact it was a horrible idea.
23overagain
4 real.?
NeverMetAGoodMod
Yep. https://www.mic.com/articles/142991/edwin-black-ibm-nazi-holocaust-history
Predicto
Sort of. IBM sold tabulating machines to anyone who wanted to buy them. The Nazis did evil things with them.
Predicto
the idea that IBM was aware of or even participating in the holocaust is a massive stretch
23overagain
Wow, i knew a lot of companies that worked for the nazis, hugo boss, beyern farmaceutics and so on, i work for ibm myself :p
Predicto
Pretty much every company did business with the Nazis until open war broke out. English companies, French companies, US companies...
NeverMetAGoodMod
No, IBM knew what was going down. They actively helped in every stage of the holocaust.
JLaP01001
America loved nazis, they “revived” Germany’s economy. There were nazi rallies in US. Our immigration system was to keep out fleeing Jews.
TheRealAethrys
The British had about 5 times as many known fascists, and Mosley was actually in government. SLA was always underground, declining before 41
dmorulez
Those sound like some very fine people.
Mack1986
Nah. Our injigraion system was set out to keep out those PAPIST POTATO EATING THIEVING IRISH!
Anonawesome
Am mostly Irish and living in Idaho. Can confirm the potato thing.
Bruhbeans
Bit misleading. US was isolationist, but supported German pre-nazi governments. They lobbied to remove the war reparations Germany had
Bruhbeans
To pay, as well as giving Germany huge loans. They did this bc the Germans told them a political storm was brewing in their country.
Bruhbeans
Communism and (especially) right extremism where exploiting the situation.
flarflarf
"America LOVED business with the Nazis" This is a little unfair. American business loved business with anyone with money. H Ford was pretty
flarflarf
racist even for his era, but the implication that he would have been onboard for nazi atrocities is pretty far off, as is the implication
PenanceArkana
Henry Ford helped publish The Protocols of the Elders of Zion in the US. Dude hated Jews enough to pay to spread blood libel.
flarflarf
that IBM was as well.
Madethisusernameforonereason
Ford used his own newspaper to publish a LOT of anti-semitic work which Hitler praised him for. I think he would've been fine with it.