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Illithidbane
19 years and god only knows how many injections already, thrown away because a real estate / reality TV conman said so. Depressing.
thissucks999
Not even that, trump has been pro covid vaccine from the start (he thinks they're his). He's said as much in several recent speeches as well
CrappleJack
StarscreamAndHutch
Dumb hill to die on, but whatever.
JackDuppArt
I’ve been saying this phrase all year - wish I didn’t have too.
jherazob
This:
RatchetnClank
He was one year away from getting paid for the rest of his life. Lol what a fucking idiot
Mostlydeadpool
he's probably got a years worth of vacation leave and so he's going to collect. this is just sabre rattling virtue signalling shit.
SnarkyScience
Clearly this vaccine is a communist plot to pollute our precious bodily fluids.
nonickname23
The Orange Bozo tried to make friends with dictators & pulled troops from South Korea without warning. This fake outrage is palpable.
Chereazi
I love how many right wingers destroy their life's over covid... I just wish they wouldn't drag so many people with them
blahblahhhhh
how is he “ dragging so many people down “ by resigning …. ? go take over his job since its such common sense to you
alfsimen
He is reffering to people beeing affected by Covid because of vaccine-deniers like him, not people affected by him quitting his job.
ExtraJudicial
Oh it's fair odds he will be approached to fill out the right wing freedumb grift circuit as soon as possible if not already in the works.$$
SirGrowlsALot
No, no. You see, it’s the others that force them to destroy their lives. That’s the story they’ll stick to
Ifyourenotfirstyourelast
Signed, someone who has never read the constitution
Mightynineftw2000
Oh he read it, just didn't understand what he read
HappySlothlet
So taxpayers don't have to pay for his retirement now? Way to own the libs!!
youcancallmesusanifitmakesyouhappy
Just under a year short according to him. 20 years gets you pension for life, he is quitting at 19.
otherJeffsarefalseJeffs
The bigger deal is 20 gets you free healthcare for you & your spouse for life. Sure it’s the VA, but it’s free.
youcancallmesusanifitmakesyouhappy
Not VA, tricare. Much much much much better than VA. Better than my top tier private insurance. My father retired after 20.
daRealFuckfaceVonClownstick
I’m actually willing to bet that “over 19 yrs” means 19yrs 10 months and he’s going out on terminal leave with 2 months left
iTakeQuotesOutOfContext
Yeah this is just a guy retiring. It’s a nothing burger.
Pattosaurus20xx
LizardEnterprises
There it is, I just had to scroll down farther.
Pattosaurus20xx
LizardEnterprises
Oh I've already saved it and put it in a reactions folder. I just didn't know if someone had beaten me it.
Pattosaurus20xx
Carry that torch a little further
Archimedes40
Did you write a similar memo when Kurds were left to their turkish slaughter upon leaving Syria? No? Then good riddance, you ignorant fuck.
VodkaReindeer
He was against saving the Afghans.
OuchMouse
twoamartist
Buh bye!
yikesaroni
but Pfizer already completed phase 3 trials, Moderna is about to complete it. he writes so hyperbolically that i have to assume its politics
GergsJohnson
Phase III were done before EUA was granted to the best of my knowledge. They want to see that it actually worked before providing EUA auth.
TheChunguskaEvent
did the "Marxist takeover of the military and the United States government at their upper echelons" tip you off
Nobody7713
The idea that the top brass of the military, or Joe Biden, are marxists is hillarious.
Bhargo
these idiots love throwing around words like "Marxist" but not a damn one of them could actually tell you what it means
LurkingMcLurkface
That's a lot of words for, "I'm a fuckwit".
Voxnobilus
Don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you
Nippledeepinahorse
I like this. I'm stealing it for future use. +1
sleepinggreenidea
Oh, it might though: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/888
dreadfroggy
Early in my USCG career, My CPO (E-7) quit before 20 years so he would not have to give his ex-wife half of his retirement.
cardinal29
Cut off your nose, etc. Half is better than nothing ?
MrCement
Naw, fuck that cheating where. (Him probably)
MrCement
Heard the same about an E-9 when I was in the Air Force .
AccountCreatedToUpvoteDogs
Don't worry, he'll be shooting black people for an Arkansas or Texas police station in no time!
MrHamurai
The minute I hear the word “Marxist” I know I’m talking to a fucking idiot.
PlinithP
Ex-military, here. This is religious thought, destroying a family, because of a bizarre mindworm that was implanted in this man's brain. 1/2
PlinithP
He is throwing away so much, for a fucking ideology. Yes, military service is also a certain type of indoc, but it is usually based 9/8
PlinithP
on things (threats) that aren't supernatural. America has enemies, and we need a strong defense system (sounds virus-y) 4/1004
PlinithP
my point - this man has given up way more, for his kids, grandkids, etc., because he was selfish. Fight me.
Redisia
Since your military, (note i am not from the US) was the US not planning to withdraw since obama's era? So three presidents now?
Fuckweasel
Yes, and the recent withdrawal and setting up the Taliban to takeover was negotiated/agreed to under Trump. So, there's taht...
AnEpicBowlOfRamen
Yeah and TRUMP signed a No Strings Attached withdraw WITH the Taliban. Biden was forced to either have America keep her promise, or more war
grandopening
With honorable discharge, iirc, he would be able to utilize VA medical. His discharge should be dishonorable for failing his commitment. ->
grandopening
As should any who follow this example. Disgraceful.
grandopening
P.S. I do not want my tax dollars supporting this sort of bullsh**.
sleepinggreenidea
Nope, that's not how that works. At all. OTOH, the contents of his public resignation could get him a CM & Dismissal. Probably won't, but...
sleepinggreenidea
(To be clear: DD is never handed down to officers, nor Bad Conduct Discharge. Their equivalent is Dismissal, and that has to be from a CM)
grandopening
Thank you for your clarification. My experience as a brat is not all encompassing.
siskoisbest
Paragraph 4 c is looking a little like an Article 88 violation. Might be getting out after all, just not the way you think.
Pentjotal
AstroExplained
For those curious, because I was: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/888
sleepinggreenidea
That was what I immediately thought too. (c) - and to a much lesser but still real degree (b) & (d) - both seem like pretty blatant Art. 88.
LuminoZero
I'd love to see them slap him with a Dishonorable Discharge.
sleepinggreenidea
If I'm being pedantic (and I served as a paralegal, so ofc I am), officers can't get DD/BCD. Their equivalent is Dismissal.
sleepinggreenidea
Although hmm, now I'm wondering if they can get OTH since it's non-punitive. I'd be perfectly happy if this clown got an OTH.
LuminoZero
I appreciate the correction! I was enlisted, so I dunno about Officer Punishment aside from a Letter of Reprimand.
delmain
Yeah I was loving (5) saying "I expect an Honorable or Under Honorable discharge" after all that. Like... hmm, well maybe before this...
sleepinggreenidea
My guess is that they won't bother CMing him. The way (5) is phrased, though, kinda makes me think OTH is possible. Which would be lovely.
TinyOctopus
Tiny octopus wonders if this dude knew what was in the anthrax vaccine because that s*** was horrible
dherik
3rd round put me in the god damn hospital, and they still made me fucking finish it or lose my deployment status
therealNorrinRadd
My command had someone have a heart attack after that, they say the shot went too deep. Got seperated with full medical benifits
roundandround
My buddy had it enlarge his heart, he was fucked up for a little while. Still deployed.
XuncuTheTiger
I hear that one is a fuck. What's it like?
CoBr2
Worse than the flu shot, not as bad as the rabies shot.
RandyMagnumLocalEmmyWinningCameraManand4thRankedProKitesurfer
They hurt. Each one hurt more then the last. Last one I got felt like the medtech hit me as hard as they could with a bat in my shoulder.
wealthychef
You ever wring a towel to get the water out? It feels exactly like your muscle is the towel. Only lasts a little bit.
Nintura1182
only SOME! The first hurt like hell. The 2nd and 3rd didnt even feel. Others felt like a hornet....
Sayagain
We got 2 out of the 4. Then they just kinda forgot about the other two. Same year we got 3 flu shots because they lost the paperwork twice.
Heavenissize17socks
'studies show that naturally derived Immunity based on exposure to the virus offers far superior protection than the mandated 'vaccine." 1/
Heavenissize17socks
2/ He just described what the vaccine does. He literally just described *how the vaccine works* as his reason for not getting the vaccine
Shmeadicus
Or the smallpox if he got that one. I almost got out of it, but they finally got me my last year in. It's a bitch.
CoBr2
Talking with friends tonight, no way that smallpox vaccine was FDA approved lol. Could literally give others smallpox with it
markiel
Or the malaria pills
JonathanMidwatch
Mefloquine Monday’s! Ten years out & my dreams are still mostly terrifying.
CoBr2
Those things gave me some fucked up dreams and ridiculous insomnia... Which was concerning since I'm a pilot.
AspiringBeefCurtainInspector
I was a civilian contractor working with the military in Canada and abroad. I had to get vaccines to continue my employment contract with
SindarElla
Civillian here, took a trip in 2011, stopped in Africa. My doc suggested a variety of vaccines. I took them all, because I trust my doctor.
AspiringBeefCurtainInspector
Right? You're a beautiful and wonderful person. +1 to you and I wish you all the best!
SindarElla
Thank you, fellow imgurian and person, you too!
AspiringBeefCurtainInspector
them. I don't understand how the hell this such a fucking issue. I've had vaccines for idk what and it wasn't a problem.
DuckPlanetKing
Because the orange shit stain along with the GQP made it an issue since they don’t have any ideas that would actually help people.
capnadorable
Because this time it’s been politicized to shit and it’s the perceived liberal enemy telling them they have to
daychilde
You're not an idiot fascist. Simple
Pentjotal
Education....in Canada our education tend toward science belief, not some mumbo jumbo religious belief that god created the universe
AspiringBeefCurtainInspector
Having been to both US and CAN schools... I'm going to call bullshit. Aside from history, we have pretty similar education systems.
AspiringBeefCurtainInspector
And we just recently had our prime minister pelted with stones by anti-lock down anti-vaxxer assholes at a campaign stop at a brewery.
DeserTimmy
Which one? The 1st one, the 2nd one, the 3rd one, the 3rd one again, the 4th one, the 3rd & 4th ones AGAIN or the last one I never got?
cakeworth
Annual my dude. It’s the gift that keeps on giving.
TinyOctopus
Exactly.
GMontag451
Sounds like my exact anthrax schedule. SMH.
TheSecondPiewackit
I'm glad my orders changed before I got the third one. 2 was kind burney.
Wearemorethanourlunch
Oh my god.
Cabbages01
Dont forget the particular vaccines didnt protect against the strains encountered overseas, making the whole thing useless
markiel
I think i got 6 total? I don't even remember
GMontag451
I got seven. 1,2,3,2,3,3,4.
Ahzdeeen
"We can't find your record for which series you're on, so we're just starting over with a new record" Lost count of how many times...
Catraylynn
Oh my god I’ve had so many hep b shots because of EXACTLY THIS
MelodiousDissonance
Same but chicken pox!
Datalink
Oh gods, I didn't get my Hep B right in Basic so I needed it for a medical job, then I got a prick by a surgical tool... 4 needles (1/2ish)
MaladaptedMedic
Ah, the after-stick prophylactic cocktail. Sick for a week after?
Datalink
had to be stabbed into my thighs like epipens because I wasn't done with my Hep B for a medical tech job that got me pricked by that tool.
SerenePrincess013
Lived on base w/ my foster parents for 3 yrs. All 4 of us kids got the majority of the shots, minus some of the more serious ones. I still>
SerenePrincess013
Don't know what was in half of them. So when the girls at work asked me if I was going to get the shot, I just shrugged & told them>
SerenePrincess013
"I already had enough shit injected into me, from the vaccines as an infant, & the vaccines from foster care. If it was gonna kill me,>
SindarElla
Shit really?? Damn...
roundandround
roundandround
Unk
Datalink
Been 21 years and I still remember having needles chucked at my arms by 30th AG's med techs I had that day. And sitting sideways after.
pizzapartyhard
Whenever I hear someone mention getting the Anthrax vaccine in the military I think of the movie Evolution: https://youtu.be/aV2eCTRFJbY
N1ghtCr33p
Ah yes, the Kane Madness.
Trallara
Always love the "we don't know the long term side effects of the vaccine" stance. Bitch we don't know the long term effectS of covid EITHER
freckledkink
No one knows the long term side effects of any medicine that gets approved in any country. It takes several years or decades for them to
freckledkink
Occur. No medicine is in trials long enough to find long term side effects anywhere. Dummies are going to dummy.
thundercactus
This fuckwit probably wouldn't even ask about the long term health effects of having a burn pit in his camp for 6 months straight.
IReplyWithOldMemes
right? those fucking burnpits were awful.
thundercactus
To be clear, I was never there. I just think it's fucking INSANE that people were burning carcinogens and toxic material in open pits.
Xecryo
See this is why when they say the military has no political parties I call bullshit. The military is filled with indoctrinated shitheads>
Bhargo
they play Fox 24/7 on any tv on base, when I visit my brother on base its all I see playing
Xecryo
BlindGardener
Most of the rank-and-file vote republican. Most of the officers vote Democrat. This reduces the odds of a coup signifigantly.
HeyoooItsMe
Like any large group of proper there is a bell curve. I know a lot of enlightened thinkers serving our country.
iluvlongsocks69
Speaking from personal experience as a former Naval Officer, the services lean more right than the general population of the US. However,
iluvlongsocks69
it is not as prominent as many believe. There is a wide range of political beliefs held by both officer and enlisted alike.
rando84
Every service member has their own political beliefs. Most have the sense to keep those separate from their military duties. The senior (1
rando84
leadership is unceremoniously discharging vaccine refusers because there’s no sympathy for politicized insubordination. (2
ShadowShards
Most of us are pretty moderate. My office is 4 left wing moderates and one right wing moderate. We all think this guys a fucking idiot.
sleepinggreenidea
You, uh, probably don't wanna look too closely at the AF officer corps. It makes the other branches seem apolitical.
captainhappen
I have heard the AF officers corps is basically an evangelical christian shit show
sleepinggreenidea
Bingo. Their service school is supposed to be something else. It's not well beloved in the communities around it either.
Isorikk
Fun fact, there isn't a vaccine that exists that has shown any quantifiable side effects longer than two months after injection
Toastfrog
But cos this vaccine is a different kind could it be different? Just asking im booked to get mind so not anti vax..
GergsJohnson
Those people have the option of J&J that uses a more traditional vaccine approach. There is no requirement to take a mRNA vaccine.
IcamtSpelUkelele
No. It’s a very fragile molecule. Breaks down in body hence the extreme cold temps for storage. Nothing left to cause “long term Damage”
Toastfrog
Cheers ears
Heavenissize17socks
Absoluteky right. (Curious: Shouldn't the injection have been cold? Or do they thaw them?)
Shellzie2010
The vaccine is thawed prior to administration, each type is stable for a certain amount of time at room temp
Shellzie2010
Theoretically, the anti spike protein antibodies/b/t cells could have some sort of autoimmune effects. COVID hasn't been around long enough
Shellzie2010
To know that for sure. However, it's unlikely and VERY important to note that you will have these if you get covid as well. In addition to a
Shellzie2010
Bunch of other antibodies/etc, which leads to even more uncertainty. And at this point, your option isn't vaccine vs nothing, it's vaccine
mikerccue
Rovylern
TheChunguskaEvent
lol this is excellent. It is like Trumpalo snowflake fairy bait
CrappleJack
Orzufancylad
I guess dude forgot about boot camp, where they use you like a pincushion first day and you get an armful of... Stuff?... that is mandatory
RavenInFlyte4ever
Every year they have mandatory vaccines, typically the flu shot, they don't even have to tell you what's in it
drizztx
Some of which is EXPERIMENTAL.
Euchre
Yeah, when you sign up for military service, you literally sign your life away - and that includes taking non-FDA approved vaccines.
drizztx
Exactly.
Euchre
They've been fairly quietly shoving developmental stuff into soldiers for decades. The benefit is that it skips burdensome regulations.
TheobromineAddict
How specific about that is the "contract"? Does it specifically say mandatory injections may not be FDA approved?
Euchre
You're bound to obey all orders including combat & hazardous situations. https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Documents/DD/forms/dd/dd0004.pdf
Euchre
Order: https://health.mil/Reference-Center/Policies/2013/10/07/Immunizations-and-Chemoprophylaxis-for-the-Prevention-of-Infectious-Diseases
xmaneds
he is an officer.... do officers get the 15 vaccinations that boot recruits get ?
ImJustSoFckingSickOfThisBllsht
Yes. In fact they go through the same boot camp most of the time.
DuxNautarum
No, they don't.
Jawesome19
Absofuckinglutely. This guy's a fucking idiot. He literally vaccinated for everything you can get a vaccination for except covid. Dumbass
CerealKillerasinfruitloops
hes probs gonna try and break into politics
welldoneamigo
Officers get theirs by suppositories
ghostinthesnow
Just the way they like it
Orzufancylad
Yes actually. https://usarmybasic.com/about-the-army/army-shots Shots the army gets. Officers get them like week 7 of OTC.
tesseract4d2
Week 7? Jfc booters get them like... Day 2? 3?
Orzufancylad
I got mine the first day, I think. It MIGHT have been day two, boot camp was mostly a blur honestly. But it was early.
tesseract4d2
I arrived at boot camp at like 7pm, so I didn't get anything done that day. Processing week is a blur and only getting blurrier (its been 10
MinxyJinx
Not everyone does OTC. But still. Everyone in the Army gets the same shots for the most part
SirBagels
From what I understand as a civilian the only diff is what you get when you deploy so Africa may have stuff that you don't get going to Iraq
SirBagels
But again I'm a civilian so anyone who's served (especially that lovely nurse patrick loller mentioned) that can correct me please do.
MinxyJinx
So “deployment” has the basic shots and a bit more (smallpox/anthrax). If a certain disease is prevalent in the area …
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lifeispeachy55
Maybe since officers think they’re special they aren’t subjected to what real soldiers are subjected to
madguillotine
That would ruin his narrative
thickythickydumdum
His claim in the 1st or 2nd main paragraph is he thinks the long term effects haven't been studied enough. A stupid claim, considering the
thickythickydumdum
risk of long term effects of covid seem a lot more real and significant. And the fact that, historically, it is mega rare for vaccines to
thickythickydumdum
have long-term negative effects on people, even if taken soon after development. This officer's argument, unsurprisingly, is garbage.
NotLuckyDucky
This is what I say when idiots try to tell me getting vacc is bad and idk what they are injecting me with. Dude idk wtf mil gave me either
HaveYouHuggedYourUndertakerToday
Was about to ask about that...
duffman3335
Yeah. They coulda put a micro-chip with a tracker and a battery in that "peanut butter" penicillin shot and nobody would've known.
WeirdStealth
The difference is that this virus/vaccine is politically charged by the Republicans.
markiel
I had to get all that twice cause they lost my medical records when i got to Germany
kjtech1
That “stuff” has been adequately tested and surveyed over many years
BurtTyrannosaurusMacklinFBl
FDA approval isn't enough?
drizztx
The military has LONG been the testing ground for new and experimental vaccines.
captwillard024
Just like in Tuskegee.
Orzufancylad
Yeh, it was tested by giving it to young men for years. Young men in the military.
Throwawaykids
I am not on his side in this but he's not seeming anti vax but more fears lack of testing
Shellzie2010
Which is dumb if u know anything about vaccines. data on the covid vaccines is way better than that for the anthrax vaccine he probably got.
Orzufancylad
If he had deployed to a hot zone, he would have an anthrax vax. We tested that on the military. So...
Bojovnik84
Because he is a lieutenant colonel, he never did basic. And as dumb as he is, he probably did college and commissioned in as a basic /1
Datalink
They still require injections... it becomes part of your entry physical plus 2 followup visits rather than the BCT stabathon.
Bojovnik84
Correct, just mentioning the difference of basic and otc, because otc isn't as big of a deal.
Orzufancylad
Now, I was USAF so it may be different, but pretty sure you still have to do OTC even getting a commission, right?
Bojovnik84
Yes, but I was just trying to point out the difference between what basic is for entry and otc for officers.
Bojovnik84
Lt and never did anything of importance. Probably kissed a lot of ass and scraped by. Good riddance for officers like him. Shit leadership.
Bojovnik84
Also, I want to point out that he is looking for attention. Only now he chooses to resign, when he has had vaccines forced on him for 19 yrs
TheGrapistHasArrived
Every US service member has gone through some basic training or another. Different flavor for officers but basic nonetheless.
Bojovnik84
Right, but an officer goes through ez mode and there is a difference on attitude. I was just pointing that out was all.
anengineerandacat
Peanut butter shot, this dude needs a reminder.
supervillainsevilmoustache
Guess this numb nuts is ignoring Syria as well and what that did to the Kurds. How any group of resistance/guerilla tribes or factions will
supervillainsevilmoustache
...ever trust the USA again, IDK. Kind of important since most conflicts going forward are predicted to be these regional actions.
TacticalWeaponsAssaultTeam
I offer everbody I work with $50 if they can name what we got stuck with in basic without using google. Nobody ever takes me up on it.
roundandround
Mean he was around for tours to Iraq and Afghanistan, so he had anthrax with a bunch of boosters and small pox.
dingo8yrbaby
That's what I was thinking. "Stupid ass." But if you keep reading it seems his real beef is with Afghanistan.
bigeasy44
Nah, if it were that would have been “first & foremost”
Orzufancylad
No, I read the entire thing. "losing confidence in the commander over Afghanistan" is a CYA, imo.
RandywithanI
I remember my brother also mentioning something called the “silver bullet,” a heavy gauge needle to the butt-cheek.
Smartlinkseo
It wasn’t fun
MinxyJinx
the “silver bullet” is also a Army colloquial term for a thermometer up the pooper shooter when you become a heat casualty
CheckFlop
Marines too. Doc sure loves his silver bullet.
Ookami313
That was the Bicillin shot. It was so thick it had to be administered in a really large gauged needle.
Ookami313
We were told by the corpsman/doctor to sit on the ground and rock back and forth on the cheek it was administered to for like 10 minutes...
Ookami313
... to"spread it out" because it was so thick it just left a knot and didn't disperse quickly enough on its own
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
It actually helps to do this with covid too. Not the butt, obviously, but if you rub your arm and help it disperse. My first shot, it /1
Ookami313
I can't find a pic, but the needle I was administered to me in was one of those large metal reusable ones like you see in 50's SciFi movies.
ArcanGenth
They called it the "peanut butter shot" when I went through. Quite uncomfortable.
Klaumbaz
Dont forget renewing them for any overseas deployment.
bigeasy44
Well he doesn’t say he’s against any/all vaccinations. He just thinks this one isn’t safe/can’t be proven long-term safe since it hasn’t
Dustorn
Being in the military isn't safe.
bigeasy44
Existed for a long time.
Bhargo
Which is dumb, and wildly inaccurate, so he is still an idiot.
gdex86
So if there was a new strand of small pox that they needed to update a vax for he wouldn't take it?
brainstream
Covid is related to SARS and MERS. So the current vaccines are built upon billions invested and about a decade of research and testing
AnimalsWillRule
He is an officer, he didn't go to "boot camp". Most he probably did was a couple of push ups at an officer training school. It is obvious
AnimalsWillRule
That it isn't about a vaccine anyway. What a fucking loser. Good riddance coward. ?
Orzufancylad
Officers still get vaccines, they have a training school.
skooterLaughin
Are all army resignation letters this long? No wonder no one ever gets out.
sleepinggreenidea
Most officers resigning their commissions don't politicize it or commit violations of UCMJ by disrespecting the chain of command in theirs.
Datalink
This one's a bit ranty but we do need to clarify all points listed. Because military loves forms.
Nippledeepinahorse
What does 'separation overseas'mean in this context? Is it referring to a spouse left abroad that you want to get rid of or is that dumb?
Datalink
That spot's for if you are serving outside the US and wish to stay in a location. It means you opt out of return travel.
Nippledeepinahorse
Ah. Thanks! I like learning utterly useless (To .e, at least) things!
Nippledeepinahorse
*me