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Turned to the dark side, Samsung has
Nov 1, 2017 11:16 PM
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ImGonnaRickRollYou
I mean... at this point I don't mind, I use Bluetooth headphones anyway.
Lugh314159
I"m just hear on my Motorola like
LolanXVI
not true. https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2017/10/31/samsung-galaxy-s9-new-galaxy-specs-camera-design-galaxy-note/#538a178d51b0
serenityfast
I mean sure the specs are BS but it's a foregone conclusion they're gonna drop it too. They would have this year but it was too late in dev.
Ulthirm
Oh my lord the headphone jack has gone the way of removable batteries.
PostPerfectThingsV2
I have the iPhone 7, WELCOME SAMSUNG PEOPLE
SimonMc
So we are going to present rumors as facts now?
TairaMai
All to sell expensive shit like BEATS or some crap add-on headphone
usersubcrimepatrol
I listen to music constantly. I bought an iPhone 7, and I thought it may suck. Let me just say. It makes no difference what so ever.
Shrekhead
No headphone jack because the new generation of buyers are assholes who dont use headphones anyways. I know because I know one.
ChloeRed
Yeah, there's nothing like sitting at home and hearing someone's music as they walk past with the phone in their hand... Thankfully it's 1/2
ChloeRed
normally shitty music anyway, so it's not being any more murdered by the internal speakers ;) 2/2
GreatLordKek
Apple sets market trends, people. They did the same thing with Ethernet ports and disk drives. They’re doing it with usb-c as well.
Zerreth
Firewire and Thunderbolt are doing SOOOO well
GreatLordKek
Thunderbolt is. Firewire was replaced by thunderbolt. Any recent real desktop or laptop workstation has a thunderbolt port.
littlegoblin
don't worry their is a solution to this, don't fucking buy it
serenityfast
Too late, it's already a foregone conclusion. Half the flagships this year dropped it, and the rest will soon follow suit.
MerkNowitzki41
Why tf would you wanna reduce compatibility with your device? No one wants to charge their headphones. I'm still holding on to my iPhone 6s
primarian
Money is why
Camelspotting
Ah yes iPhones, so much compatibility.
fitizen90
pretty much all my headphones are rechargeable bluetooth. My life is active, my city is crowded. Id prefer not snagging wires in the gym or
MerkNowitzki41
You're not the onoy person that buys cell phones or listens to music with headphones
fitizen90
on commuters. It doesn't take that much effort to plus your headphones in at night.
serenityfast
And don't forget, there was NOTHING stopping you from using Bluetooth before. You just lost the choice, as a consumer. For nothing in return
serenityfast
Bluetooth drains battery faster, can be hacked, the headphones are dramatically more expensive, & now I have to charge. How's that better?
fitizen90
a)6-8 hours of active use is plenty b)why are you keeping sensitive data on an insecure device c)quality costs, wired or unwired
inaplasticcup
a) that's not enough for my work b) work c) BT costs more
serenityfast
A. It is when you don't need your phone to live the rest of the day for work. B. Because how else can I make a call C. Not as much
fitizen90
d) you charge your phone, laptop, and other gadgets. be responsible for your own stuff. e) i mentioned the benefits for me
serenityfast
D. is just a restatement of A, and E. You're admitting you don't care about them making extra profit off of you. Typical ignorant consumer?
fitizen90
You're arguing points I'm not making forcing your own narrative. Also, while i sit here with my 6s+ because first gen tech is bug laden
ButchSideIron
How am I supposed to plug my phone my into my car's audio? My car isn't that new.
HolyCringeLordBatman
USB-C to 3.5mm exists
Unklejrad
That works on short trips...what about road trips?
eviscera
It also works for all other trips. My phone has no jack, but the USB-C charging port has a USB-C to headphone adapter. Use one of those.
beemop
He's asking how do you charge and listen
eviscera
Buy three phones, when each one runs out of battery, throw it out the window and swap it with the new one.
Camelspotting
$15 Bluetooth dongle, not ideal but it's the way things are going.
MAYORofTITTYciti
What. The. Fuck. Samsung?
Lugh314159
I"m just hear on my Motorola like
MountainDEWbajaBLAST
The Moto z doesn't have one either?
Lugh314159
Well, shit. Guess I'm keeping my G4 until it dies. ...which will be fun, cause I don't actually know how long that will take!
notaballoon
The Galaxy is just as bad as an iphone now: integrated battery, no user serviceable parts. It's a shame
CardsStl314
Ha ha. All android users talk shit about Apple and then this happens. Lol
TheRicM
That’s jacked up, man
promethbastard
It's okay. There's always Sony.
digitalist1
Guess ill have to go with htc next time
LCPLunderground
Y'all...this ain't shit. I had a blowout in a company car last week. Went to change the tire. No spare. Apparently cars don't come with...
LCPLunderground
spare tires anymore. What happens if you're in the middle of nowhere with no cell service or you don't have enough money for a tow?
mthrndr01
Hell, I lose service about 20 miles outside of town with Sprint, don't even have to be in a middle of nowhere situation to be fucked by that
LCPLunderground
That's dangerous.
ChuckNorrisgiveslifelemon
Have a tire repair kit
LCPLunderground
I knew someone would say this. I had a blowout, not a leak. The best repair kit in the world won't fix a shredded sidewall.
TheWhisperingWindsofShit
Not with that attitude it won’t!
BabyYodasChickenTendies
This actually happened to a guy we passed in the middle of no where between Nevada and Oregon. Back roads. Hours without service 1/2
BabyYodasChickenTendies
He was going 10 mph. It would take him 10 hours to get to the next gas station. We went ahead, called 911 from gas station cause no cell
BabyYodasChickenTendies
We saw a police car go by us opposite 45 min later. So hopefully he got help before 10 hours of stranded.
Theoreticalheretic
As i understand it, that has a lot to do with upping the mpg without actually making the cars that much more efficient.
triedtothinkofausernamethatwasntalreadytaken
We saw this shit coming they have been copying apple for a while now this is the final conclusion. If this is true samsung is done for 1/2
triedtothinkofausernamethatwasntalreadytaken
Why would we buy a knock off iphone for the same price the extendable memory and headphone jack was their major selling point now its gone
Threewisemen
Sith work in twos; there is always a master and an apprentice.
AgentOrangeJuice
Apple started it, then Xiaomi and HTC followed suit, Essentialphone too, I knew Samsung was gonna pussy out like they always do.
SudoNimm
Samsung actually had wireless headphones before apple did. But apple took the Jack away first so they got blamed lol
SudoNimm
Whoops?
SuperTacticalSandwich
It's not stupid if you leave the jack
Bstone1
But how do you get people to spend extra on the shit you want them to shell out for?
SuperTacticalSandwich
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Reelthreat
The iphone x is basically the s6, just a couple years newer.
lookout21
Pretty sure android os has 80% of global market share
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dazedNconfuzed
Samsung is the only Android phone maker with significant revenue.
l33t1c4r1u5
They do. 14% is Apple. The rest is various makers. The chart you want is high end phones at the same price point as Apple
Ampwork
It's to make it waterproof, same as when Iphone did it. Compromise for a feature. Don't know what to tell you.
fusrohjordan
That's not why they got rid of the jack dude. Fucking shit how do people still think this?
LusMovieReviews
It’s to sell Bluetooth headphones*
tossabeertoyourwitcher
This guy gets it
RedLlamaPoncho
Yah, you don't know what to tell us so you just made something up
IHuggedaCorgiToday
I have an ip68 phone with an headphone jack
buttbuttpartywagon
Galaxy has been waterproof since like the s5
ChuckNorrisgiveslifelemon
Not the S6
buttbuttpartywagon
I will actually add a correction it was water resistant the s7 series is also resistant but who is bringing their phones to Atlantis/R'lyeh
rusrsdude
I'm sure this reasoning is total BS. They're making their phones similar since they both dominate the industry. That's gotta be the reason.
rusrsdude
Or at least have a better reason than making my damn wired headphones obsolete. Don't wanna need to buy a 200 dollar wireless headphones.
RobKnob91
Amazon has a pair of Bluetooth headphones that kick ass for $20. Optimum Beats
DegenerateCrotchFruit
There's an adapter you can but that will make wired headphones Bluetooth capable
guntbagmunkball
I need this.
rusrsdude
If apple or samsung sell it then I'm not buying that crap. They're turning full products into an unfinished product with DLCs. F that.
Kangadilla
That's the reason right there. People will need to spend more money purchasing bluetooth accessories. Such as headphones and adapters.
MAYORofTITTYciti
Bunch of cunts
AxeySmokesalotl
But there are people who simply won't get the phone because of the lack of headphone jack. I work in a wireless connection centre and see 1/
HVLLMVRK
Why do people even need their phones in the water?
HVLLMVRK
So, does it float too?
cringeypingey
People drop them in the toilet allthe time
amyrose
YouTube in the shower
jonny7777125
"Youtube"
GodSiege
It's more about accidentally dropping it in the water
MrMemethief
I have had my phone for years and have not dropped it in water once, and I'm not exactly careful with it.
rusrsdude
How often do people drop their phone in any type of liquid.. can we get some stats?
ohjohnboy
I use/allow mine to get soaked when it's raining. Not exactly submerging it, but its nice to know it will be safe
Anonaru
There's more than 1 phone out now with the same water resistant rating as the jack-less iPhone, including the s8. You sure about that?
Epyos
This
Ampwork
It requires less change internally to achieve he rating. Makes for cheap innovation. Plus they can sell you the little headphone adapter bit
fusrohjordan
Not the adapter. Licensing. Because the lighting port is proprietary, apple makes $$$ on headphones from 3rd parties that use that port.
l33t1c4r1u5
No he isn't. He is talking out his ass
letspoopandbrowse
He has no ass. It’s to make sure he is water proof.
Anonaru
LOL yes!
MyUsernameIsProbablyADog
I want to upvote you many times
Ampwork
I was misinformed, the headphone jack left because it was necessary to ditch the floppy drive, which was bound to happen sooner or later.
Different55
CD replaced USB and Lightning replaced the 30-pin because they were better. Bluetooth offers nothing of value besides being wireless.
Anonaru
That's pretty tenuous.. floppy went out because something roughly 700x better became mainstream, the aux jack hasn't been replaced 1/
Anonaru
by something transformative, or by something wholly easier to use. I'll be fine with it once BT streaming offers an incentive, 1/
darkninja2992
First they get rid of the easy to open backing, making it harder to repair, now this?
killhiggins
They aren’t too bad to repair
mybrothersmario
Still harder than just opening the back.
LupusLilium
I preferred phones with removable backing anyways. Can write notes in there or replace the battery yourself without voiding warranties.
LupusLilium
Or even run those much larger batteries that replace the old phone backing.
dan144
Are you surprised the company that's been mimicking Apple for years is still mimicking Apple?
APinkDragon
Given Apple uses Samsung components, seems like the other way around.
acuteavocado7
but... muh phone superiority!!!!
dan144
I mean... http://bgr.com/2012/08/08/apple-samsung-patent-lawsuit-internal-report-copy-iphone/
dan144
Not really a question that they all copy each other. But Samsung recently has been especially similar to Apple.
Cheomesh
Do you not insure your phone?
SpunkyGoon
When i use to insure my phone. I would still have to pay $200 for a refurbished phone. Pretty big waste of money.
TaquitosDaMighty
What everyone uses Bluetooth- Samsung probably
Thismuchistrue
volatilefrank
Iamthemonkeymansowhatevercats
As a product designer in electronics. Everything is going wireless. It's like USB C. Everybody bitches but devices lead. Accessories follow
Iamthemonkeymansowhatevercats
Five years from now you'll be like "remember wires lol" the transition just sucks ass.
Iamthemonkeymansowhatevercats
In b4 downvote.
zamielvanweber
A lot of this is 1: good headphones are not entirely cheap so being told I cannot use them hurts. 2: Bluetooth headphones can be quite 1/2
zamielvanweber
expensive so yay more costs associated with a new phone and 3: Apple debuted this particular wave with their total BS airpods so that 2/3
Iamthemonkeymansowhatevercats
I mean, you can use them. Just stick a dongle on and tape it up if you're worried about it popping off. That's what I did in my car.
CorgiCircus
MudkipsRevenge
I personally don't use headphones, does this make me weird?
Mezmerizedbybiguns
I prefer Bluetooth headphones. People who prefer cables should stay at home with an ancient landline, cuz they're killing the point
SidMckinzie
Still not going to have the audio quality I want. Phones have become the MP3/streaming music device. I want my headphone jack.
aimeethedrummer
Exactly. I have a pair of Skullcandy Grind headphones. Both Bluetooth and wired. Wired sound is so much better because I can actually 1/1
ghilliechilli97
Nah
Scurix
Only if you're that annoying asshole who loudly plays their media in public places.
DiscoveredByTheGermansIn1904
IFarmPointsInTheCommentSectionSometimes
I typically don’t listen to music. I have no need to since I’m always busy with work and it causes me to drift from my work.
ihaveaprettylargeamountofnothing
im the total opposite. i cant realy concentrate the whole day, but when everyone is gone and i cant turn up real loud, im EFFICIENT AS FUCK
ihaveaprettylargeamountofnothing
can*
siuado
No Jack, no thanks. I left Samsung two phone ago and haven't looked back.
aCatfishNamedKitty
They do this to move forward in tech. People bitched about changing to USB-C too, even though it's leaps and bounds better
Ulthirm
The main bitching is about that its not standardized. Every company decided to do something slightly different with the port making some
Ulthirm
cables function and some not.
poochyena
explain how this moves forward tech
Cheomesh
Neophillia.
serenityfast
Exactly how is a more expensive, battery-required device, that can be hacked, better than a jack that has been universal for 50 years?
aCatfishNamedKitty
Wut
serenityfast
Bluetooth uses more battery, requires more expensive headphones, and creates another avenue for hackers to access your phone wirelessly.
aCatfishNamedKitty
Why use bluetooth? They should use usb-c headphones. And your argument folds in on itself with the invention of the cellphone itself
serenityfast
That means dongles which also means $, plus MORE dongles if you want to charge. Also more expensive headphones if you want USB-C benefits.
serenityfast
Forcing people to use USB-C provides literally no benefit over having both as options.
DanielBoringcliff
Luckily i switched to Bluetooth headphones a long time ago
serenityfast
Luckily I just gave up on convenience a long time ago. Seriously, the last thing I want is more expensive headphones, that I have to charge.
TheCorporateMudkip
I find this one hard to believe because they keep buying companies that make headphones like akg with the s8 they bundled akg buds with it
CreamNinja
Achtually.png, they bought Harman, who makes akg, harman kardon, infinity, jbl and then some.
Ulthirm
Which are absolutely amazing when compared to my other pair of earpod thingies.
DadSavage
Maybe AKG has wireless headphones.
serenityfast
They sell you the problem, then release the solution: wireless headphones, at a dramatically higher markup to their standard headphones.
deadlyvenom354
Complain all you want give it less then 5 years and all phones won’t have a head phone jack, and I’m okay with that
Pangs
I'm OK with it right now.
serenityfast
The real question is WHY are you okay with losing choice, as a consumer? Especially when you gain literally nothing in return.
deadlyvenom354
Why do you need a head phone jack on your phone? And do you really need to charge your phone and use headphones?
serenityfast
Use it in the car for trips all the time, so yes. Or hook it up to speakers at my friend's place. Plus, they're WAY cheaper headphones.
AnusReadyToBeRavaged
As long as its standardised across all phones (Looking at you apple) it should be ok after a few years
garrett53
Does it explode tho?
LoveBigD
This feature will be available in the future software update
Ssssssssssss
So...uh...what was the logic behind getting rid of the headphone jack?
BrownedPants
Water resistance.
thetruegabyjamie
S7 and S8 are water-resistant with headphone jacks.
BrownedPants
Huh. That was Apple's justification. Doesn't surprise me that Samsung beat them at their own game, again.
Goldcart
"Courage."
aircycle
Audio DACs built into phones are terrible. Getting one to plug into the USB port will give you better audio.
Cheomesh
Obsolescence, basically.
ArousedWizard
So that you will have to buy their accessories
DPCerberusBlaze
Push more advanced accessories and adaptors.
TraitorousTrump3
Cords suck?
SnickerDONTle
BLUTOOTH IS THE FUTURE!
Ssssssssssss
But wireless when it's not necessary to use is whiggedy whack, dawg.
ASUSunDvl
More Waterproof instead of just water resistant
pilojo
Wrong. There are completely waterproof phones that have headphone jacks.
Ulthirm
Indeed, as you see the jack only needs to be able to receive data. Its not a hole into the phone (the walls are sealed, copper can easily
Ulthirm
be used like that) the main issue with water is that when it dries guess what! the board warps and all those small chips? fried.
PorneliusHubart
I thought it was for waterproofing that didn't require the hydrophobic coating
Caburnacus
They can made the phone thinner. The phone can only be so thin w a jack, and god forbid they dont have some dumb new gimmick
Zyrin
Honestly wish they would stop making them so thin. Could probably fit a bigger battery in there.
Shpadoinkleman
Is this a real concern? Is anyone REALLY bitching about how "OH SWEET FUCKING JESUS I HAVE TO CARRY A PHONEBOOK AROUND IN MY POCKET HELP!" ?
ChloeRed
Most people I know who go "I want a thinner phone" turn into "Why do I keep having to charge it so often?" people pretty quickly.
Ssssssssssss
I do know they were complaining when a cheaper chassis made phones easier to bend...to the point that tight pants could bend them.
BlankMage
My understanding was that there are a large number of companies, including them, with a vested interest in getting you to buy their headsets
Vermifuge
https://imgur.com/8vvGQ6s
Zyrin
TBH This sounds to be more like an apple thing now they they have Beats, Wouldn't be surprised if Beats+Iphone= superior sound comes up soon
TiGRIOSindustriesRnD
And I will still shell out the same amount of money for a Bose set because they aren't overpriced trash.
wilkins1952
I use a set of Phillips SHS8001 really nice to wear cheap and have top tier sound quality
TiGRIOSindustriesRnD
Right? I had a pair of Triton Kunai that were AMAZING... until I sat on them one day.
pilojo
Reduces battery consumption and removes a rather large component of the phone that turns digital to analog and regulates voltage. More room
natabus
Also, combined with cordless charging, we could eventually have a device with no gaps or holes in the case skin.
zFUBARz
1) I mean, in terms of what uses power, I can leave my phone on random for like 10+ hours while listening and barely use any power. Not
zFUBARz
2) to say you're wrong but compared to the digitizers screen and wifi, a DAC seems like small potatoes
Different55
Blatant bull. The jack does not consume nearly as much power as bluetooth, and the DAC is still required for the onboard speakers.
FistfulOfAssholes
This is the first reasonable goddamn explanation I’ve seen. Is it bullshit? The internet has ruined me.
serenityfast
It's BS. USB and Bluetooth would draw as much, if not more power than headphone jack would when used. And the amps are SUPER small nowadays.
Different55
It is. The jack does not consume nearly as much power as bluetooth, and the DAC is still required for the onboard speakers.
BrokeMyFunnyBone
Essentially it means that they can make the phone thinner even though nobody gives a shit or even notices it anymore cause we all have cases
CKOD
PirateRabbitSim
I have one of those!
CKOD
http://www.ti.com/product/tlv320aic3253 < 3x3mm chip, space isnt the issue here either.
CKOD
Shaving $2-3 off the build cost when you're making 10 million plus units though...
Ulthirm
Eh its not exactly useless. Wireless data transfer is still lossy (extremely lossy) where as cables can transfer basic information for long
Ulthirm
distances with very minimal losses. There are a few reasons why bluetooth is short range.
pilojo
Bluetooth is capable of production quality sound at intended ranges, though.
pilojo
I hope I'm not speaking out of my ass or my $12k college education on computer engineering is wasted.
777Permission
Where the fuck did you get through college with only 12k? Ps: I like your explanation on this matter btw.
pilojo
Canada, we have some cheap colleges and some stupidly expensive universities.
serenityfast
It does not reduce battery consumption. Bluetooth or USB headphones are gonna draw power too.
Different55
"No no no but see removing things = more battery, simple math my fancy canadian college degree says so" -pillojo, for this entire thread
serenityfast
The punchline is the iPhone 7 actually had a smaller battery despite removing the jack.
Tilted9000
Does blue tooth reduce battery consumption?
Ulthirm
Sure if the original phone that removed the jack also allowed the actual chip to turn off buut, the IphoneX doesnt
DrSparken
bluetooth and wifi are on the same chip, so at the very least you'd need to turn both off to get an improvement beyond just reduced activity
Ulthirm
Basically they said "We expect users to be dumb"
Ulthirm
I'd post sources but all the damn links are longer than 144 characters and imgur always gets mad at me for shortening links so.
Ulthirm
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ios+11+bluetooth+forever+on+on">http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ios+11+bluetooth+forever+ona> and http://lmgtfy.com/?q=iphone+x+bluetooth+on+all+the+time
CometLaHal
bluetooth is absolute shit for security. transitioning to always having bluetooth on for headphones will open the door and set the mat 1/
CometLaHal
for hackers 2/2
pilojo
Sure. Keep dreaming. There are far easier cracks to use than bluetooth. NFC, wifi now with the 'KRACK' exploit, and man in the middle attack
pilojo
Yes. DAC units and voltage regulators are ridiculously intensive. Bluetooth is somewhat more efficient.
Different55
Quit talking out of your butt. Bluetooth uses vastly more energy than any headphone jack.
ChloeRed
...If you take out the DAC, I take it you'd take out the internal speaker as well, as I don't see how you'd drive it digitally?
serenityfast
I don't buy that. Bluetooth (not LE) is actually a decent drain on battery when transmitting.
pilojo
Oh, yes. But the point is that DAC has more drain. There's no perfect solution, just a slightly more efficient one
CycloneSP
then explain why my battery doesn't last nearly as long with BT active?
pilojo
My phone lasts about 22 hours with Bluetooth on but maximum 18 hours with Bluetooth off and sound constantly playing through the jack.
10meterpole
Whats the sound quality. Never tried BT headphones
Different55
Bluetooth hisses and whines annoyingly when it's not perfectly silent. Most notably for the little clicks and taps when using your phone.
adobesubmarine
If you want to spend a bunch of cash, the quality is great... until it isn't. Bluetooth simply isn't as reliable as a wired connection.
CreamNinja
I'm a somewhat audiophile, and find my sony mdr1000x plenty fine for long travels and it's intended use. Best I've had for mobile use anyway
serenityfast
Lossless (perfect) audio is possible on BT now. It's up to what's in the headphones. But they cost dramatically more for same quality sound.
pilojo
It's good. People have misconceptions about BT because it was shit in the past. Don't cheap out and you get great sound. BT is capable of
snipekill1997
So moving the batteries for those intensive systems so that they hang from your ears is better?
CreamNinja
For concerns about battery combustion, nah. For total battery life, yes, I'd say.
pilojo
For components that actually matter in a wireless age. Could possibly fit bigger batteries. Headphone jacks take up A LOT of space.
poochyena
Has any phone that took the headphone jack out actually use that space for a bigger battery?
Caburnacus
Nope, they would rather make the phone thinner, with even less battery life.
Different55
Certainly not the iPhone that started the trend. They used all the space from the jack to make their "Taptic Engine" bigger.
Diyamin
They are trying to push the "wireless age" where you can do things like charge your phone by throwing it on your bed, and walk into the (1)
SleepyRhino
gates of hell (2)
Diyamin
next room while still listening to your tunes.
Gmayor61
So... Speakers?
serenityfast
Yeah, I never wear my headphones while walking around my house. But speakers? All the time.
Camelspotting
Yeah but all the millennials still have roommates.
Diyamin
Personal, solo speakers
Different55
Yeah but like. New speakers. Now be a good little consumer, why don't you?
TiGRIOSindustriesRnD
Looks like we've got one that can see...
doggetofftheqcekmty
What's the Pixel's policy on headphone jacks?
AintNoCompanionLikeABlueEyedMerle
I've gotten used to not having the headphone jack on my Pixel 2. I'm also in complete denial and I want in back immediately.
Pricysnail
Pixel 2 doesn't have a headphone jack I don't think
blackmag3
I think it comes with a USB>headphone adapter though.
StorageB
Better off with the OnePlus 5
fusrohjordan
Yeah, no jack on the Pixel 2
serenityfast
Everyone is dropping it. LG & Samsung was just late to the game (they were on a later development cycle). They'll drop it too.
EntagTheFanFuckingFabulous
I ended up getting a OnePlus 5 instead of the new Galaxy phones and I'm really glad I made the switch
RabidEjaculator
Same. Love the OnePlus. Kinda wish I waited a couple more months for the 5. 3T is a really good phone though. No complaints
serenityfast
Yeaaaah I can't accept a OnePlus after all the insane tracking software shit they are doing.
neil137
ok, no apple OR samsung. what's good, and what's left?
ngrneer
LG. Not only does the V30 have a headphone jack it also has a quad dac making everything played though the jack sound better and louder.
ngrneer
I have a LG G6 and it is really nice. The V30 seems to be a bigger better version. So I would definitely recommend. Esp bc OLED and snap 835
serenityfast
This time next year? Nothing, you're fucked. Everyone's doing the same thing, some are just later in dev cycles than others.
Ziomuschio81
Just a rumour for now, no need to panic
TacoTubby
raidleadergutts
Oscarwildebastardson
Look at google pixel. No audio jack.
CheddarFiend
bobert22334
liquinas
FUCK THAT EVERYBODY PANIC
pixelsnader
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!AAAAA!AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!AAAAAAA
HeirElfSquire
DON'T TELL WHAT TO DO!! I'm freaking out, man!
DetectiveSherlockHolmes
DON'T YELL AT HIM!! HE'S TRYING TO HELP!!!!
Bibulus
It's the best time to make a fuss about it, because they aren't locked into a design yet and can still keep it.
JustSayingYouHaventSeenMeAndBatmanInTheSameRoomBefore
Regardless, it's a growing trend. Phone with no headphone jack has 0% chance of getting my money.
FuckPHP
Seriously. Everyone's freaking the fuck out, but they haven't even mentioned the S9 yet. Plus, Samsung being a Koran company, probably (1)
FuckPHP
won't remove the headphone jack because while that trend has caught on in America, most Asian countries still want it. (2)
felixdacactus
Koran lol
TheBlueJelly
Actually, no. Loudly expressing annoyance at the rumor is how you prevent them from doing it. It makes it clear people want the 3.5mm.
LanReady
This is the perfect time to panic!
Superchief86
This shit makes me so angry. But what makes me angrier is people who defend it. "People don't use wired headphones anymore." Bullshit! 1/2
Superchief86
2/2 Then why do they give you an adaptor? Most people still use wired. Some choose wireless. This is trying to take away the choice!
melwil
So, there's an adapter, what are you complaining about now?
SalvalecRhaplanca
Thank you! I don't wanna shell out the cash for a Bluetooth headset that costs 3x as much for worse sound quality than my $15 wired 'phones.
spitsfire
You can choose not to buy it
Superchief86
So far I have. What worries me though is that eventually all the companies will follow suit, then there won't be any choice at all.
goneinaflash911
That is how progression works. People kick up a fuss about any change
AnalBaguette
Wired is still the #1 option for audio, and they're artificially forcing it out. Blame Apple for this mainly.
littlegingerone
Yeah but there are more than two brands
Ulthirm
oneplus is pretty decent despite basically copying apple.
BigJewishHulk
They aren't copying. My phone doesn't look like an iphone at all
mybrothersmario
In what ways are they basically copying apple?
Ulthirm
Eh mainly exterior phone design.
mybrothersmario
Oh yeah, I forgot that was the design they went with for the 5..
Tminus1622d
I have a huawei for like 80 euro, very happy with it, does everything I want it to do and frankly a lot of things I dont need as well.
Tminus1622d
A quick search seems to indicate though that they dont do cheap models anymore, shame. Lowest seems to be 200ish.
marsgoose
To bad that China market phones don't work on US carriers, imagine paying $100 for a phone that's better than all the name brand ones.
marsgoose
Well sometimes you pay $100 and it's total shit, but there are some really good ones.
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
You should mention them for the lazy people. Damn those lazy people, waiting for someone on Imgur to suggest alternatives. Damn them.
StringVariable
??? When you go to a (online) shop you can just browse the other models.
Temptedweeds
Google pixel, HTC, moterolla, there's more of course a simple google search will show if those darn lazy people could just Google
packardcaribien
Pixel doesn't have a headphone jack.
Onyxninja
I just bought a Pixel XL and it has a headphone jack
packardcaribien
To be specific: the Pixel 2 and 2 XL do not. If we're going back a year, pretty much only the iPhone 7 lacked a jack.
poochyena
https://smile.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=smartphone
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
.
rattlebone10
. :)
Schadenfreude8
LG V20 even has a quad DAC for actually nice sound quality with good enough headphones
exlurker42
huh, guess I'll be switching brands before long.
FapsAlot
Work in phone industry no main stream phones will have a head phone jack in 5 years
exlurker42
I will deal with that in 5 years. Given other viable options it's a dealbreaker for me. With no alternative I'll live. Shit happens.
PartiallyShavedSasquatch
That's why I buy Keyocera.
TheHippieDrood
I’d say more like 1.5 yrs
FapsAlot
Wouldn't surprise me
reallyguysseriously
But why????
FapsAlot
Business reasons honesty
ladymondegreen
To make them thinner, lighter, and waterproof.
Geezreally
Motorola Droid is pretty nifty.
DrTadakichi
I have enjoyed the Pixel.
MyNameIsJesusAndIStealHubcapsFromCars
the new pixel doesn't have headphone jack either.
DrTadakichi
Yeah but I have enjoyed the one WITH a headphone jack, which is still for sale.
MetroidJunkie
That's the great thing about Android, totally open source so there's a wide variety of stuff powered on it, even a mediocre game console.
Ihavedecidedtomakeanimgur
Already on a LG device :)
CitizenClam
Me too! Glad to meet the only other person who got an LG phone
ChiLLeCheeze
Got an LG G Flex 2 for Christmas and I'm enjoying it.
Cheomesh
I have the G2 s
PockyBonneville
Sony emphasizes on their headphone jack with high fidelity output. They all about it. just sayin. #therearedozensofus #DOZENS
exlurker42
Would be nifty at home, I'm really hard on headphones so those are too cheap to properly benefit from such a thing lol
PockyBonneville
hard in what way? rough housing? because I did actually break my headphone jack on my sony, but I think it was a messed up jack tbh
exlurker42
I just use them all day every day. I've tried cheap ones and nice ones from many brands but they all have one dead bud pretty quick. Now
exlurker42
I just buy whatever is 10 bucks or less and replace them as needed. I'd go bluetooth but I kept breaking those, too and connection is a pain
Lionskull
thing is, if you just ducttape the 3.5mm to usb c dongle to your headphone jack then it would be like a slightly longer headphone jack
exlurker42
Why would I want to buy an extra dongle that eats up my charge port?
Lionskull
because so far, apple, samsung, and google have taken out the headphone jack.
exlurker42
That's why I might HAVE to, want is kind of a different issue and I'll switch to off brands or old models for as long as I can hold out.
Lionskull
right, but at some point in time, you gotta start thinking solutions to the problem instead of ignoring it.
CochiseVeneficorum
HTC is best, imo
fandsor
To what? They're all going headphone jack-less.
PockyBonneville
Sony bro.
exlurker42
Not quite yet. ZTE, Moto, that H one I can't spell, etc Plus refurbed older models. It's a losing battle but I'll hold out as long as I can
fandsor
Same. I have a perfectly good set of wired headphones. They don't need to be replaced.
TheFrenchCanadianTaunter
Does that mean that people just can't listen to music on their phone? Why would they take that out?
exlurker42
It means bluetooth or a proprietary adapter only. More sales of expensive add-ons.
reallylamelol
Windows phone. Lol
HelloToe
Maybe to Microsoft? http://bgr.com/2017/11/01/microsoft-headphone-jack-tech-thin-surface-devices/
jpweim
Try the moto z droid. Battery for dayz. Like I've called asleep without charging when it's at like 70 from day use and wake up with it at 50
Kougeru
Any phone with 835 loses only like 1-3% over night
dbrsong
Galaxy User's: Use to a better device www.Oneplus.net I have no affiliation; Simply a Samsung converted satisfied customer! 1/
dbrsong
1/2 the cost & SOLID competition-I.M.O. Better. Owned Galaxy's: Note2 - Note4. I Loved These! Own the "OnePlus 3T" now; I'm happier w/ it.
ArtOzz
But who?
Allyourpointsarebelongtous
I might get crucified for this, but I'm a Sony fan
Leithreas
Motorola dropped the jack briefly, then brought it back. Droid phones are pretty nice.
exlurker42
plenty if android and windows manufacturers out there
reallynotmikepence
Windows dropped their phone. There's still a ton of Android out there and google is looking pretty good.
Contundo
Like HTC? They dropped it on their flagship so you are down to Sony or one Plus, or what's it called and Huawei
exlurker42
Oops. honestly I don't follow phones at all. I grab the latest galaxy active every couple years.
SuspiciousCharacter
Moto, dare I say Windows phones?
Tilted9000
Did they ever get Snapchat?
l33t1c4r1u5
Negative. Would be typing this from a Windows phone if they did. Snapchat had said they have no plans to ever release on Windows
Tilted9000
Lack of apps are really killing windows phones
lakethatsme
Check out Oneplus or ZTE. Good phones, for pretty cheap.
RichieJay361
Love my ZTE Axon 7. 400 dollar flagship quality phone
lakethatsme
Hell yeah. I love mine as well. Can't live without these dolby speakers now.
Scurix
Got a ZTE ZMax Pro and love it.
boopduck
Huawei
Leithoa
I have enough trust issues with Google, never mind a Chinese manufacturer who's already had a large '3rd party' backdoor discovered
inspiringandfunnyusernamecoolheh
every one had already a third party backdoor
ccccaatfish
Oh fuck no they fucked the Nexus 6p so hard. Yeah they make 'cheap' phones but half the time they last for a year max.
exlurker42
My galaxies never last much longer than that anyway
randomoverusedcomment
P10 plus
StaticVoidFalafel
1plus too and lg and ton other good phones out there
AliBarber
Fuck yeah
RegisBent
My gf had a Huawei and honestly was the worst pos I ever saw
MyNameIsJesusAndIStealHubcapsFromCars
nexus 6p is the best phone i've ever had. made by huawei.
AliBarber
Cool. I've got their flagship model and it's better than the last 4 Samsungs I had
l33t1c4r1u5
Yeah but what was the price point on it?
boopduck
I had a Galaxy and in January, I had just a few bucks but it was enough for a Honor 7. It's an older model but hardware-wise, it can (1/?)
boopduck
compete with modern phones. It's an alternative to expensive brands. Huawei doesn't have that many selling counts for nothing :3 (2/2)
AliBarber
I had an honor 5, it was all good
ProxyPlayerHD
or just keep your older phone? as long as it worky why the fuck get a new one?
exlurker42
Why do multiple people think I'm running out and grabbing one tomorrow? I use them until they don't work, usually about 1.5-2 years.
ProxyPlayerHD
your phone only lasts 2 years... what... how
exlurker42
Idk man, that's just how long it takes for something to go bad enough it's more expensive to fix than replace or for me to break it.
ProxyPlayerHD
i have my phone since around 2 years and it looks new. nothing broke, and i don't even have a case for it... How do you break it in 2 years
vampyrita
I've been with LG for quite a while.
Revenite
I just got the lg v30 as a work phone. Absolutely love it, and I’ve owned iPhones and galaxies my entire smartphone life.
Cheomesh
I still have a G2.
nqqq88
good man.. me as welll..I have the v20...am not upgrading no more until they think removal battiers & micro sd cards are cool again.
vampyrita
I have the v20 too! But i agree,v the glass backs and whatnot are a pain
nqqq88
Agree. I like different as in removable glass back maybe. That would be diffrent.But apple sets the norm for smartphones and I hate that
heroinesick
Same. Gotta love those removable, replaceable batteries.
poochyena
I love my G6, it is everything I want in a phone.
exlurker42
had an LG3, i got rid of it because there was some voice control app that came up constantly and couldn't be uninstalled from the LG distro.
vampyrita
There is a lot of bloatware, but you can disable what you can't uninstall. I've liked the g4, g5, g6, v10, and v20. Also the lg mach.
exlurker42
I disabled a LOT of apps but it wasn't an option there. presumably it supported other system functions like voice to text and was protected.
treosfnb
Are you sure the bloatware wasn't from your carrier? My last 3 lg phones had a whopping 3 non android apps that did nothing.
exlurker42
Could have been, but I've only ever had the one carrier and only the LG had the annoying app.
vampyrita
It's mostly google's apps, but there were a bunch from the carrier too.
ChuckWeiss
Why do people continuously buy the newest phones? My phone is over 5 years old now, and t ati wkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
McGreed
I had mine for 4 years and then 3 months ago I dropped it and it finally crack the screen. I paid to fix it, it deserved it. Loyal phone.
ChuckWeiss
Joking aside, my iPhone 5c (it was free, or I'd have got a different phone) has lasted 5 years with no incident. If it breaks, I'd rather 1/
ChuckWeiss
Pay to repair it than get a new phone. Reducing the amount of ewaste I produce is a part of that. 2/2
exlurker42
Mine die every 1.5-2 years. I buy a new phone when the old one doesn't work, just saying when that happens I won't buy w/out a 3.5mm jack.
TheHippieDrood
Well then you’re in trouble soon
exlurker42
Yup. Shit happens, but I'll hold out as long as I can. I hate dealing with bluetooth headphones.
spitsfire
Yeah, automatic connection is a pain in the ass
FlatBrokeHooman
Razer just came out with a phone for 700
ChaosandChaos
I was like "an updated Motorola razor? Huh"
garybear
Good they found something else since they’ve really been falling flat on their game no products lately
LemonThieves
Legit?
Pineappleinthedesert
Yes, 100%. And it’s an absolute beast!
Kougeru
Specs are basically the same except RAM which is overkill unless you game and no real gamer considers mobile to be gaming
wopolusa
Found the guy who spends $400 on an rgb keyboard
Pineappleinthedesert
TheUhmTheMFUhm
Also without a headphone jack tho
Fengoj
No one uses those, blue tooth it.
xgingavitisx
Pricysnail
Saw something about no shatter proof glass, it was a Twitter comment so I doubt it's true.
Pineapplebanger
No headphone, no wireless, no waterproof... bold cost if you ask me, I could care less about a 2k screen.
joshyjosh
It's for gamers. If you it's not for you, it's not for you.
Zyrin
Still a stupid reason to get a phone only.
joshyjosh
Hardly.
Zadoyinga
*Couldn't. Mr President.
ramadainnsoundsgood
Lol with no headphone jack. The new oneplus phone costs like 500.
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ramadainnsoundsgood
That's bullshit they don't steal private info. You can decide whether you want to send info or not. Sauce: i have a Oneplus phone.
dasappan
And its brilliant. Love my op5
afriendinneedsafriendindeedafriendwithmemesisbetter
Yeee loving my OnePlus 5...
MrOjiN
One plus 3 user here... Did you upgrade and was it worth it?
ramadainnsoundsgood
3 to 3t isn't really worth it but 3 or 3t to 5 does. The 5 really is an ace of a phone!
Itanu
isnt that just 6
TheGuyWhoBeatsHisMeat
At least 3
WeinerManJenkins
I was kind of upset because I bought the 3t like right before the 5 came out and it was $100 more expensive. I was completely oblivious
lpgfinmarkus
I bought a 2 right before the 3 came out. :( But still, tge 2 is still a good phone too.
Demoux28
Same. A buddy of mine is selling his 5 for 250 though. Gonna jump on it
ramadainnsoundsgood
I got a 3t when it came out coz my nexus 5 died on me. Absolutely loving it. No complaints whatsoever.
Naveedamin7992
I'm in the same boat. I kind of wish I looked online to make sure nothing new was coming out
LetsTravelTogether
Ive had a oneplus one for like 3.5 years now. I had to get the screen replaced because I'm a dumbass 1/2
Madapaka
I still use oneplus one too, it's still not broken so I have no reason to buy a new one
LetsTravelTogether
2/2 The repair people said they cater to other models, but everyone brings in only their oneplus ones cuz they're so goddamn reliable
GoldenSun3DS
Supposedly "gamer" focused but no gaming controls?
killerjerick
Yeah but I mean buying Razer is worse than buying apple... Overpriced poor quality shit.
joshyjosh
That's alienware.
killerjerick
And Razer...
Malibloo
Upvoted. I've had like 4 products from them that came in damaged, malformed, and broke within a year. It's absolute shit.
Malibloo
And they know it's shit, because they send in replacements if you just cut the cable of your product.
halfhumanhalfpie
My OnePlus 5 is pretty much a slick droid running iPhone clone - with a headphone jack! Get the 8/128 one
DuckduckSpiralPenis
Oppo ripoff
halfhumanhalfpie
I think the companies are affiliated in some way but hey, it'd be very Chinese to copy eachother
GlowGreen
OnePlus 5. Fastest phone, barely sips battery cause the proc never hits 100% usage.
iamonlyhereforyoupeople
I love my OnePlus 5. Top notch.
vocalkiller79
OnePlus army! +1
dbrsong
Galaxy User's: Use to a better device www.Oneplus.net I have no affiliation; Simply a Samsung converted satisfied customer! 1/
dbrsong
1/2 the cost & SOLID competition-I.M.O. Better. Owned Galaxy's: Note2 - Note4. I Loved These! Own the "OnePlus 3T" now; I'm happier w/ it.
dbrsong
The One+ 5T is being released really soon!!!
randomoverusedcomment
There's no official specs on an s9. Sage in all fields
PoppinLochNessHopster
You're a real peanut butter.
exlurker42
Eh, I'll check it when I actually need one, it'll be at least a year and phones go by fast
emparier
You can’t fucking sage here cunt
0neTonSoup
Shit the fuck up roody poo
MoooCow
Sage
FirstThingThatCameToMind
sage
Cheomesh
sage
GenoBeam
turns out can't triforce here either even with the alt codes.
ZachPutland
MagicalScientist
sageru