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Repost of a frequent post, but the message remains valid. Especially with the “totally not a Nazi convoy” flying Canadian flags with swastikas painted on them, and political parties refusing to condemn Nazis.
PrfctDrk
I srsly can't believe we still have nazis this day and age. Didn't we have an entire World War killing off these fucks? They didnt learn?
buttdestroyer
Not such a shitty bar after all though.
BidenduexMaximus
this is exactly what my home town bartenders still think about anyone that isn't white and straight. i'm not even joking.
SergeyPrkl
Yes! Preventive move. Sadly this is highly illegal in my country.
gotchasucka
hesrightyouknow.gif
bourbonandbaddecisions
There is only one way to deal with Nazis.
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lookimcanadian
Our Pm is refusing to negotiate with them, the conservative opposition is trying to convince Trudeau to hear them out. Fuck o'toole.
mmiigg
https://www.thestar.com/politics/2022/01/26/alghabra-says-vaccine-mandate-for-truckers-not-causing-food-shortage-empty-shelves.html
TheScaryDoor
If someone's primary, end-goal is to ruin my life/kill me - and I know it - I'm not gonna give a fuck how sweet they are moment to moment
thatwoodguy
I was on hand in Vancouver at a DOA concert When some nazis from the US came up to try to disrupt the show. My cousin who invited me and his
thatwoodguy
Friends from the Simon Fraser football team showed them out
imyourrealdad
If only we could toss them right out of a country
SnapKylePop
Mack1986
I have to point out iron crosses aren't exclusively nazi things. They predate them and even part of US military awards. In punk scene maybe
gaenaralhonk
In countries where wearing swastikas is banned they're a favored stand-in
MajorasFall
Swastikas predate the nazis, but they have been forever tainted. Similarly, lots of people cant see an Iron Cross without seeing nazis.
trippingthelightfantastic
GradingT
Sidebar, Baltimore in case anyway was wondering - from the original twitter thread
maobezw
and thats close what happend 1933+. germany became a nazi whore. and got fucked up beyond recognition.
SecretAgentSuperBooger
undeadlemur
A job well done.
Whatsname
AKA what the GOP didn't do.
mroranges
Crustpunk..?
ThisOldCPU
It's an English thing. Punk rock and extreme metal. Started around the 80s.
PballQhead
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crust_punk
mroranges
Also known as "crust stenchcore"! Sounds lovely!
WeAreStevo
If you've ever been to a punk club/bar you'd know how true this story is. Nazi punks get thrashed all the time
IllegalDuckling
I find it weirdly funny when they wear iron crosses, since I've mostly known those for the Bundeswehr. Feels like they wear Spongebob pins
IllegalDuckling
For reference, I know the cross was established by Prussia. The Bundeswehr also doesn't try to look intimidating at all to the generl public
pintDMG
Or to enemies. Or to anyone, really ...
jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj2
So... it's just a German military insignia, but everyone recognises it mostly from WW2 related media?
IllegalDuckling
WW1, too. Which is understandable, from a teaching perspective. Can't learn ALL history of everyone else
jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj2
Mm true, though WWI German military doesn't have quite the same reputation...
PballQhead
Goddamned Nazi Eurofighters!
thebeadweeb
I find it sad when people who *do* know this are assaulted in the street for having the bundeswehr version. Or when a celt has rocks thrown
thebeadweeb
At them for having their culture's cross.
freckledkink
I used to wear the Celt cross. I stopped when I noticed it looked like the iron cross. I didn't want anyone to think I was one of them. I
freckledkink
Went to a lot of punk and metal shows and dressed like it.
londonosierra2000
Let's make America great, kill Nazis.
vicvalour
No, most of these people are poor and/or uneducated. Invest in better education/social infrastructure => less poor/uneducated => less nazis
vicvalour
Won't unmake nazis, but will reduce future nazis. But at the same time, absolutely prosecute nazis for nazi shit
zorlonjones
Odmanra
That’s Quality toilet paper there
BORGALOOGIE
ReaperCDN
monkeyninja
trueunpopularopinions
Political tag, fucking use it so the filter works.
TheDiscoVampire
User name checks out.
Ikwilstroopwaffels
Do you scream at the toilet seat when you need to piss and it's down?
dontrike
Hating Nazis isn't political
darkusblack
Hating Nazis is not so much political but more about general human decency.
trueunpopularopinions
Every sane person hates nazis. "Fuck nazis" posts are really just point-whoring. I come to Imgur to relax w/ funny and interesting posts. 1/
trueunpopularopinions
Nowadays half the posts are political. To each their own, but use tags so the filters work and people can have better Imgur experience. /2
darkusblack
Just scroll past. It’s super easy. I do it to all the cat pictures
wonderwomanlovesbacon
Def gotta nip the riff raff in the bud! But I’ve also seen bars shut down bc of nice, old men sitting on barstools for hours and hours >
wonderwomanlovesbacon
only buying 1-2 drinks. Their friends join them and do the same. And their friends. They become regulars and take up the bar space. The old>
wonderwomanlovesbacon
men hit on the younger girls/ladies. The younger, paying crowd stops coming. The bartender looses tips. The bar looses money and it dies.
wonderwomanlovesbacon
I thought they should start playing loud “young people” music. Maybe the old men would have stopped coming in.
Skuggen
There was one place here that could never survive for more than a few months (bankrupt, then bought by new hopefuls), because it was a -
Skuggen
favored hangouts for alcoholics, who were "nice enough", but insisted on talking to anyone who came in, and got angry if you didn't join in.
Idonotbelievewehavecompany
Should be legal to punch a nazi right in the face, you roll up in swatiskas and shit, punch right in the face
putcleverusernamehere
I'll allow it
nietzchebomb
Isn’t it?
TheobromineAddict
Instead, it's like punching back the bully in grade school. He goes free and you get suspended.
VaultGirl69
The law is only meant to protect those with money. And those with money sometimes use Nazi rhetoric. The law is not 100% morally correct.
BirbsAreImportant
Or kick in the balls. 90% of the time they also have balls. Unsure of correlation.
dogbeachesarethebestbeaches
Definitely should be legal.
LyraTheLycan
Imo morally correct actions override legally correct
Ryanator50
By definition nazis want to kill all non nazis. So punching them is an act of self defense.
kevinUnityClicker
Violence is what they want, so they can play the victim.
Ikwilstroopwaffels
Why downvote him? He's right?
Thajurriesexcuesed
I mean, finding a jury that would convict you for that would be quite a feat.
Hemelsblauw
In a lot of European countries Nazi stuff is forbidden.
TheMagicalUpvoteFearie
Yes.. but that doesn't make it legal to assault them, that is still assault sadly
Hemelsblauw
It helps a lot if the law is clear about that it's wrong. In the States it seems like it's an evergrowing infestation.
Idonotbelievewehavecompany
Yup, no state sponsred statues of hitler, yet assholes here want to keep confederate statues up
JackSandwich
It should be legal but honestly, I'd happily be arrested for assault for punching a Nazi.
normalushall5
Or confederate flags.
cheddarhat
Bad precedent. I get it, but once you start punching people for wrongthink, it's like the nazi bar thing, but with other kinds of 1/2
cheddarhat
terrible people. Shun them, shout them down, vilify them - but let's avoid legal action against free speech.
FairyKingOberon
Agreed. Let them know they are not welcome in public spaces, but give them their chance to scurry back into their shitholes. If not, hands
ArchMagos
This is why you should only hit people that label themselves as Nazis. If it isn't historical film or some other case where the person>
ArchMagos
Where the person wearing the uniform isn't actually a Nazi, I say they are making themselves a prime target. As long as you only go after >
ArchMagos
The ones that label themselves as Nazis then you aren't suppressing anything other than Nazism. Or at the very least performative Nazism.
PballQhead
No. Actual, real Nazism, swastikas and HH, is so abhorrent and vile it must be exterminated. We've killed to that end, a punch is mild.
Spiked
This guy was going around being an asshole and harassing people. I don't think it sets a bad precedent to punch him at all
cheddarhat
I mean the legal precedent. Don't create legal tools that help your enemies.
IcamtSpelUkelele
Same for sickle and hammers
Ikwilstroopwaffels
Yes, clearly, so many communist rallies these days. It's a huge problem, eh? While we're at it, let's outlaw feudalism. Idiot.
IcamtSpelUkelele
Found the pinko commie.
IcamtSpelUkelele
Us nazi part: 500 members. Us communist party: 9800 members. So…(Source: Wikipedia)
Ikwilstroopwaffels
You're slow.
parkerh17
Legal? Nah, you don't want the govt involved in regulating morality. It falls on society to make sure nazis know they aren't welcome in >
parkerh17
Polite society.
arhalts
This is what jury nullification was meant for before Jim crow era abused it and it was swept under the legal rug. For those who do not know
arhalts
Jury nullification is when a jury votes not guilty on a crime that was committed but morally justified/ reasonable exception. However during
arhalts
Jim crow people would decide killing a blackan was morally justifiable because they were black. So they stopped talking about it and got
arhalts
People to focus on whether they were guilty of doing it or not, not any other consideration. One more things racists ruined.
InfitePortals
Dont make it government regulation, but perhaps government can give pardons after Nazi stomping day.
PballQhead
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Problemwoodchuck
Left guy: "Halt!" Right guy: "Nein."
BallsDeepinaDragonscloaca
Was that white speck his tooth!?
MrOne2
I will never not upvote the lets-be-resonable-hand-gesture-nazi.gif
PballQhead
It's like, preemptive instant regret...followed by a nice nap. I really wish this had sound lol
vicvalour
therealsarahconnor
Just noticed that!
PballQhead
I've watched this for hours and hours and I literally never noticed that before...
vicvalour
Me too, this is a longer version
Thelrishlnquistion
Pow! Right in the kisser!
SerenePrincess013
You get bonus Karma points if you break their nose.
historycat
In Texas v. Johnson (1989), the Supreme Court redefined the scope of the fighting words doctrine to mean words that are ...
theworldcouldbeflat
You can punch a Nazi in Canada too...
SimpDaddyDee
We can?? :D Wait. Source?
historycat
"a direct personal insult or an invitation to exchange fisticuffs." Nazi symbols are a direct personal insult to any "real american".
death4665
Texas doing something right.
IcamtSpelUkelele
Or a true Scotsman. I feel the same way about sickle and hammer symbols. Punch a commie for mommy.
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historycat
12 peers would not convict. & am attorney would use this case to enter into the record the motive. Them=nazi.
Merkonian
So, I do think that 'real American' shit is the problem. The nationalism was always a bigger problem then the socialism.
Merkonian
That pledge at school, flag waving and 'the US being the greatest country in the world' crap US citizen are force fed is pretty disturbing
Skuggen
Or simply "I would like to participate in mass murder."
Idonotbelievewehavecompany
Please explain how punching someone in the face is equal to mass murder?
ReverseTrapTsukasa
Wearing the symbols of mass murders would be saying one wants to take part in mass murder. I wear no symbols. Even my shirts are blank.
Caxafvujq
I think they were speaking more to the meaning of wearing Nazi symbols mate
aShogunNamedMarcus
I feel we don't use the word fisticuffs enough anymore
theworldcouldbeflat
Definitely doesn't know the first rule.
SkycladNightStroller
Or ‘put up your dukes’
historycat
To say otherwise is to say that Nazism is a valid alternative to the govermental system if the US.
RickyTickyB
I live in Texas…I’ll look it up, but are you telling me I can punch Nazis? Because I’ve never wanted to see a Nazi so bad if that’s the case
historycat
I'm just saying that if you feel personally insulted by a Nazi, then I would request a jury trial and make sure they know about this case.
Like2Fox
The word is Fascism. Nazi are non-existent political party of old, encompassing fascist values among other things
TheobromineAddict
Nazism emphasized racial superiority. Otherwise very similar to fascism. Nazi party still exists, but changed name to "Republican" party.
ThisOldCPU
I'm not saying they're Nazis... but they are wearing Nazi Uniforms... and threatening Jews.
tanman729
Everyone should look up the paradox of tolerance before giving me some FrEeDoM oF SpEeCh bullshit
Bluejadesfire
I did. Thanks! +1 Teach me shit like this, Imgur. That’s what I’m here.
SerenePrincess013
My mentor in HS once told me "Your freedom to throw a punch stops at the end of my nose." But he made exceptions for Nazis.
Gomegadon
So what you are saying is we learn to project air pressure from our punches
ThisOldCPU
...so I rocked him with a one two right in the gut.
TheFishFace
Look it up properly because most people grossly mischaracterise it
aQuantumofAnarchy
"In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies..."
aQuantumofAnarchy
It's worth actually reading his words. It's not always quoted correctly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance?wprov=sfla1
Manae
I mean, this "well ACTUALLY" that pops up every time seems to me to be distorting it more than just the "don't tolerate intolerance" summary
unclesporky
It's important to recognize that "well ACTUALLY" is no fallacy, and to resist the urge to dismiss what is often an important clarification.
Manae
"as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion..."
Manae
"We should claim that any movement preaching intolerance places itself outside the law and we should consider incitement to intolerance...
unclesporky
Striving to be tolerant means resisting the urge to "not tolerate" (silence, ban, kill) those who oppose you.
soromon
The paradox is that you cannot tolerate those who would eradicate tolerance itself.
unclesporky
However, if you characterize everyone but those who hold your narrow band of beliefs as "attempting to eradicate tolerance itself," then >
unclesporky
according to this paradox it is fair game to eliminate them.
unclesporky
Paradox of tolerance can just as easily be wielded by fascists. "We're in power, and we say those now against us are intolerant of us."
Pooprocketpower
Did you read it? Because it explains why this isn't the case.
unclesporky
Boiled down to its natural conclusions, it's utterly meaningless as anyone opposing anything is "intolerant" of that thing, and thus >
unclesporky
someone else's "our tolerance means we don't have to tolerate you."
Badprenup
It absolutely isn't meaningless for one major reason you are overlooking. A good man may try to be tolerant of hateful ideals, and the 1/2
Badprenup
Paradox of tolerance teaches them what happens when you avoid confronting intolerance or hate in an effort to be tolerant. BAD guys on 2/3
ObiWanKenobitch
Except I think the point is the intolerant only gain power by tolerating them. Being intolerant of them gives them no room to grow.
unclesporky
Well then you're kind of engaging in Minority Report pre-crime, where you shut down anyone who even looks at you funny so it "can't grow."
ObiWanKenobitch
I think it’s a pretty easy line to draw with literal Nazis. That slippery slope argument is disingenuous at best when we’ve seen what Nazis-
ObiWanKenobitch
do when allowed to grow by turning a blind eye. Appeasement ring a bell. A line has to be drawn. I’m okay with it being for Nazis.
freckledkink
People don't understand the difference between public and private places, either. A bar is a private place. A park is public. A government
freckledkink
Site is public (whether it is a representative's Twitter or Facebook, a webpage, etc). Imgur, Twitter, Facebook, etc are private companies.
freckledkink
You don't have freedom of speech in private places or private companies. They have rules (whatever they say). In public, you do. On the
freckledkink
Street, in school, in public parks, etc, you're free to express yourself and say whatever. The government can't censor you (unless you're
freckledkink
Threatening harm to anyone). If you get blocked or have comments edited or deleted on a public site, that's illegal. Contact the ACLU.