Nov 23, 2019 11:00 PM
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darthstormer
Sell for recycling. Packed into bricks, sent overseas, dumped back into ocean. Lather rinse repeat.
jodefuan
Call Greta! She seem like a happy camper.
red411
Cleaning the ocean one straw at a time
Anonawesome
Sadly this machine just bags all the trash and puts it right back into the ocean, slightly more organized :'(
CheeseB0t
Yes! A bunch of water WALL-E's!
AnbaricDragon
If you're looking for people who don't mind being cooped up for hours with minimal entertainment to drive it I am your man. So soothing
postman69
Cleaning is good but we need to fight the source.
dmjalund
War against China is impractical at this point
TheMadOnion
This machine will about to crap unless it's fully autonomous.
mginster
Whole I applaud the effort, that machine is so so so insignificant to the size of the ocean.
prinzessinmustapha
how about adressing the problem at the source? surely a good invention but without additional measures it's always running behind
Timinated14
Don't you mean cleaning the Oceans surface?
lumpinawesome
How much does it cost, and would the poorer nations, who have the worst of this problem, be able to afford it...?
EdouardVerbeke
This company is trying to help out and no, it’s no my company: https://noplasticfish.com/collections/all
dontrike
Can we get a fleet of these for the Ohio region of Lake Erie?
yourtheepitomestomach
Now we need these guys to clean up California’s Highways and Byways Seriously I’ve never seen so much litter and garbage on roads everywhere
DanJonesKing
So it's a Roomboat. Noice.
Tahingada
Been wondering for years when somebody would make this very machine +1
NameChecksOut87
This four ocean thing is a for profit company yet still doing good things.
LizardEnterprises
"More plastic than fish" ... How the fuck are you even measuring that. What are your units? I want to see the fucking data.
GhostMecha
It nice to see people actually do something instead of using mentally unstable teenagers to yell and brow beat you
CiGr
How do all the kinds of plankton fare after this thing comes through?
goflyblind
looks like the same problems as https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/01/ocean-cleanup-project-could-destroy-neuston/580693/
LordBarringtonBunks
Glad organic stuff is returned. So much sealife depend on it for homes.
Indyofthedead
You can sell the plastic for recycling and make a killing (this is how you advertise it to investors).
drunkvelociraptor
There is no economy in recycled plastics anymore
T0go
you couldn't, it's too contaminated, degraded, not sorted
ChiLLeCheeze
It can clean up our oceans for a better environment. "That's it? Pass." You can sell the recyclable material. "Shut up and take my money!"
PhailRaptor
Or, if the price for garbage is higher, sell it as garbage, and watch them throw it back into the sea! *cries*
squintish
Who buys garbage? You pay people to take garbage.
anabobcatz
Lovely, but where do you put it?
All this consumer choice stuff is a bad joke. Companies that MAKE the gigatons of plastic are laughing their way to the bank as we bicker.
Use straws, don't use straws, whatever. When there are companies manufacturing billions of straws a year who cares, it's going in the ocean.
Fakamean
There’s some rich guy in the background building laughing at all this...
nseanconlon
This is bullshit clickbait for fake internet points. You'd need hundreds of thousands of these.
punknoodles0
Then we better start building them now.
TaterDominator
East Asia countries (Japan, China, India...) are the biggest contributors of plastic waste in the ocean, and should help out.
freshthrowaway1138
Not for much longer in China since they won't be receiving US plastic anymore. Poor countries will still take our trash though.
Simon1FA
How do you know? What about America?
hahadix
https://www.earthday.org/2018/04/06/top-20-countries-ranked-by-mass-of-mismanaged-plastic-waste/
Ta, noted..
starlord56
North Korea finally beat us at something
ThatGuyWhoLikesButterflies
Much of it is packaging. And guess what languages it's written in.
DexterTheCat
I did my masters thesis on micro plastics in water/fish. This style clean up will result in the death of insane amount of aquatic life
Zooplankton and other tiny organisms live in the top layer and will be sucked up into this device. other small aquatic life gets stuck too!
Kavoral
"Sucked in" by a colander skimming water bottles off the surface?
They live in the neuston (which is basically the top 8 inches), so yeah they would, and so far it’s proving to be true in practice.
yes. listen to the guy who did the thesis!
WendyTheWendigo
Do you know of any other solutions that is safe for them ?
There are insanely easy ways to provide solutions like don’t use single use plastics. Recycle properly. North America recycled horribly.
thorkild91
That’s preventative not a fix. I’m pretty sure we need both
You’d prefer this method, that will cause FAR more destruction and harm than good?
TaterDavis
From what literature I’ve read (too lazy to link, just google) the majority of the plastic in our oceans is in the form of micro-beads (1)
Ringshadow
Nope. Over half the plastic in the ocean is abandoned fishing gear. Ghost nets et all. This shit about microplastics and straws is lies.
Half the garbage patch are nets, because it clumps together, overall they're less than 10%.
and particles smaller than a grain of sand. I don’t think a lot of people are aware of this and it changes the problem if one was unaware(2)
You’re 100% right. Research (my own included) also shows that micro plastics aren’t a threat to aquatic life. This “clean up” will be bad.
That being said, oceans are fucking huge. By far the biggest inflator of the plastic problem. (3)
I’m working on a project about ocean plastic clean-up & by far the scariest things the scientists told me about is nano-particles. They /
Are when microplastics break down and can absorb directly through the skin. Not enough studies are being done on how this will affect us /
Long term and there’s nothing we can do about them, we just have to find ways to deal with the eco/bio fallout of the phenomena.
darthstormer
Sell for recycling. Packed into bricks, sent overseas, dumped back into ocean. Lather rinse repeat.
jodefuan
Call Greta! She seem like a happy camper.
red411
Cleaning the ocean one straw at a time
Anonawesome
Sadly this machine just bags all the trash and puts it right back into the ocean, slightly more organized :'(
CheeseB0t
Yes! A bunch of water WALL-E's!
AnbaricDragon
If you're looking for people who don't mind being cooped up for hours with minimal entertainment to drive it I am your man. So soothing
postman69
Cleaning is good but we need to fight the source.
dmjalund
War against China is impractical at this point
TheMadOnion
This machine will about to crap unless it's fully autonomous.
mginster
Whole I applaud the effort, that machine is so so so insignificant to the size of the ocean.
prinzessinmustapha
how about adressing the problem at the source? surely a good invention but without additional measures it's always running behind
Timinated14
Don't you mean cleaning the Oceans surface?
lumpinawesome
How much does it cost, and would the poorer nations, who have the worst of this problem, be able to afford it...?
EdouardVerbeke
This company is trying to help out and no, it’s no my company: https://noplasticfish.com/collections/all
dontrike
Can we get a fleet of these for the Ohio region of Lake Erie?
yourtheepitomestomach
Now we need these guys to clean up California’s Highways and Byways Seriously I’ve never seen so much litter and garbage on roads everywhere
DanJonesKing
So it's a Roomboat. Noice.
Tahingada
Been wondering for years when somebody would make this very machine +1
NameChecksOut87
This four ocean thing is a for profit company yet still doing good things.
LizardEnterprises
"More plastic than fish" ... How the fuck are you even measuring that. What are your units? I want to see the fucking data.
GhostMecha
It nice to see people actually do something instead of using mentally unstable teenagers to yell and brow beat you
CiGr
How do all the kinds of plankton fare after this thing comes through?
goflyblind
looks like the same problems as https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/01/ocean-cleanup-project-could-destroy-neuston/580693/
LordBarringtonBunks
Glad organic stuff is returned. So much sealife depend on it for homes.
Indyofthedead
You can sell the plastic for recycling and make a killing (this is how you advertise it to investors).
drunkvelociraptor
There is no economy in recycled plastics anymore
T0go
you couldn't, it's too contaminated, degraded, not sorted
ChiLLeCheeze
It can clean up our oceans for a better environment. "That's it? Pass." You can sell the recyclable material. "Shut up and take my money!"
PhailRaptor
Or, if the price for garbage is higher, sell it as garbage, and watch them throw it back into the sea! *cries*
squintish
Who buys garbage? You pay people to take garbage.
anabobcatz
Lovely, but where do you put it?
T0go
All this consumer choice stuff is a bad joke. Companies that MAKE the gigatons of plastic are laughing their way to the bank as we bicker.
T0go
Use straws, don't use straws, whatever. When there are companies manufacturing billions of straws a year who cares, it's going in the ocean.
Fakamean
There’s some rich guy in the background building laughing at all this...
nseanconlon
This is bullshit clickbait for fake internet points. You'd need hundreds of thousands of these.
punknoodles0
Then we better start building them now.
TaterDominator
East Asia countries (Japan, China, India...) are the biggest contributors of plastic waste in the ocean, and should help out.
freshthrowaway1138
Not for much longer in China since they won't be receiving US plastic anymore. Poor countries will still take our trash though.
Simon1FA
How do you know? What about America?
hahadix
https://www.earthday.org/2018/04/06/top-20-countries-ranked-by-mass-of-mismanaged-plastic-waste/
Simon1FA
Ta, noted..
starlord56
North Korea finally beat us at something
ThatGuyWhoLikesButterflies
Much of it is packaging. And guess what languages it's written in.
DexterTheCat
I did my masters thesis on micro plastics in water/fish. This style clean up will result in the death of insane amount of aquatic life
DexterTheCat
Zooplankton and other tiny organisms live in the top layer and will be sucked up into this device. other small aquatic life gets stuck too!
Kavoral
"Sucked in" by a colander skimming water bottles off the surface?
DexterTheCat
They live in the neuston (which is basically the top 8 inches), so yeah they would, and so far it’s proving to be true in practice.
T0go
yes. listen to the guy who did the thesis!
WendyTheWendigo
Do you know of any other solutions that is safe for them ?
DexterTheCat
There are insanely easy ways to provide solutions like don’t use single use plastics. Recycle properly. North America recycled horribly.
thorkild91
That’s preventative not a fix. I’m pretty sure we need both
DexterTheCat
You’d prefer this method, that will cause FAR more destruction and harm than good?
TaterDavis
From what literature I’ve read (too lazy to link, just google) the majority of the plastic in our oceans is in the form of micro-beads (1)
Ringshadow
Nope. Over half the plastic in the ocean is abandoned fishing gear. Ghost nets et all. This shit about microplastics and straws is lies.
Kavoral
Half the garbage patch are nets, because it clumps together, overall they're less than 10%.
TaterDavis
and particles smaller than a grain of sand. I don’t think a lot of people are aware of this and it changes the problem if one was unaware(2)
DexterTheCat
You’re 100% right. Research (my own included) also shows that micro plastics aren’t a threat to aquatic life. This “clean up” will be bad.
TaterDavis
That being said, oceans are fucking huge. By far the biggest inflator of the plastic problem. (3)
WendyTheWendigo
I’m working on a project about ocean plastic clean-up & by far the scariest things the scientists told me about is nano-particles. They /
WendyTheWendigo
Are when microplastics break down and can absorb directly through the skin. Not enough studies are being done on how this will affect us /
WendyTheWendigo
Long term and there’s nothing we can do about them, we just have to find ways to deal with the eco/bio fallout of the phenomena.