I agree with sentiment and message of the post, but one big caveat.... bananas are functionally finite; they take time, space and resources to grow, process and store. Money, as it is today... doesn't. Enough people just have to agree that, for instance, one account has X amount of currency, and suddenly and magically, said account has that amount of currency. But again, I agree with the sentiment and message.
I think this is genuinely the problem. For the vast majority of human existence, greed wasn't such a big problem because the rest of the village could just take what they need from hoarder villagers, and the hoarder could learn to cope or die mad about it in the wilderness. There didn't need to be as much impulse control against greed.
This analogy makes it seem like there's a finite amount of money in the supply and there isn't. We just keep making it perpetuate as a social construct. The bananas are tangible and limited. Also, monkey and other animals do generally fight over limited resources.
But if he built the plantation, they're all his bananas, not theirs. He's giving them a share in exchange for picking them. They can always start their own plantations and cut into his banana "profits".
They cannot start their own plantation, because even if they ate all of the bananas they get as payment, they still starve. They will not survive long enough for their trees to grow. That's not counting how the first monkey has it set up so that monkey society is hostile to small busi-- small plantations. Or how he takes BACK a portion of the bananas he pays them to maintain the infrastructure. Also, none of this considers that his bananas are worthless if they rot on the trees.
So they work for the monkey with the coconut plantation too. You never worked two jobs, bro? There were times when my kids were you that I worked three jobs, one full-time and two part-time, just to make ends meet. It's called busting your ass to get ahead instead of demanding what isn't yours. You think that monkey just woke up one morning, owning most of the bananas? No, they worked for them, and their ancestors worked for them.
That’s sarcastic by the way. That metaphor is known to refer to something that is literally impossible but the rich have taught the middle and lower class to use it to berate anyone who needs any kind of help to survive the orphan crushing machine.
dixxienormus
That's to show everyone can become a billionaire, silly.
PurpleMoonFlower
They've actually done studies of this situation. The rest of the chimps killed and ate the 'rich' one.
'Eat the Rich's is the natural order.
SecondSince
I'm still in favor of studying both such a monkey and human. But I propose for the humans we first take out the brain.
Detacheddavid
There's a handful of empirical studies regarding this. Just google 'Food Sharing in Monkeys'
4vie
I agree with sentiment and message of the post, but one big caveat.... bananas are functionally finite; they take time, space and resources to grow, process and store. Money, as it is today... doesn't. Enough people just have to agree that, for instance, one account has X amount of currency, and suddenly and magically, said account has that amount of currency. But again, I agree with the sentiment and message.
RustyRedbeard
Oh it's not just monkeys. Termites do a better job.
cousteau
I don't think it's a fair comparison. You're comparing a soulless, unevolved, unintelligent feral beast without moral values with a monkey.
giganticroboticpenguin
Right below on the front page.

obzervr
https://youtu.be/LNjuxtjtuWg?si=XIUg4xyAKxZEt5_I
This song spells it out in the coolest way imaginable
DotcoreJetkill
The scientists aren't deciding who's on the covers, that's the problem
MediocreExtremist
Or Forbes is just a list of the mentally challenged? Greed is a mental disease
SarcasticComment
Their 30 under 30 list basically tells you who will be in prison in 5 years time
Nismu
RedHaze
Don't worry. The other monkeys will 'remove' the hoarder and eat it.
...The bananas, too.
Sometimes nature sets a beautiful example.
KRicci
I think this is genuinely the problem. For the vast majority of human existence, greed wasn't such a big problem because the rest of the village could just take what they need from hoarder villagers, and the hoarder could learn to cope or die mad about it in the wilderness. There didn't need to be as much impulse control against greed.
OhIfIMust
Yeah, chimps don't fuck around.
jbrightmans
This analogy makes it seem like there's a finite amount of money in the supply and there isn't. We just keep making it perpetuate as a social construct. The bananas are tangible and limited. Also, monkey and other animals do generally fight over limited resources.
cragath
Unfortunately money only "works" because there's a "finite" (very intentional quotation marks here) amount of it.
Amomani
And that children is the tale of the Greedy Monkey who had so many bananas he couldn't climb the tree anymore.
cousteau
Tune in tomorrow for "The action that carried consequences for the evil person" and other fairy tales.
thatguyfromny
What if the monkey created banana plantations where all the monkeys could work to earn bananas of their own?
LustrousShadow
..and then forced them to give him almost all of their bananas, to the point that they were still starving but more slowly?
thatguyfromny
But if he built the plantation, they're all his bananas, not theirs. He's giving them a share in exchange for picking them. They can always start their own plantations and cut into his banana "profits".
LustrousShadow
They cannot start their own plantation, because even if they ate all of the bananas they get as payment, they still starve. They will not survive long enough for their trees to grow. That's not counting how the first monkey has it set up so that monkey society is hostile to small busi-- small plantations. Or how he takes BACK a portion of the bananas he pays them to maintain the infrastructure.
Also, none of this considers that his bananas are worthless if they rot on the trees.
thatguyfromny
So they work for the monkey with the coconut plantation too. You never worked two jobs, bro? There were times when my kids were you that I worked three jobs, one full-time and two part-time, just to make ends meet. It's called busting your ass to get ahead instead of demanding what isn't yours. You think that monkey just woke up one morning, owning most of the bananas? No, they worked for them, and their ancestors worked for them.
thatguyfromny
*kids were young - not sure why it got cut off
thinkybrainpains
This is why the monkeys need little boots. So they can pick themselves up by their bootstraps. Duh.
thinkybrainpains
That’s sarcastic by the way. That metaphor is known to refer to something that is literally impossible but the rich have taught the middle and lower class to use it to berate anyone who needs any kind of help to survive the orphan crushing machine.