This shit is toxic, guys

Jan 7, 2017 11:22 AM

enderfive

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Okay, let me begin this by saying I don't symphatise with Brock Turner in any capacity. I haven't followed the case, so I can't make accurate judgements, but if the things said in the post in this image alone are true, he's completely deserving of a harsher punishment for his actions.

That being said, publicly shaming him for what he did, although definitely a harsher punishment and something that would probably balance out the flaws in the judicial system in this particular case, is not fucking okay. It's not okay not because I think Brock is actually a nice guy, because I don't think that. It's not okay because it brings three negative effects in general.

First of all, sometimes people change. If Brock, and I'm only using him as an example here, should ever find in himself the capacity to truly regret what he did, then once he's done his time, he should be able to live a normal life from that point onwards. It's bad enough for him that he's in the Sex Offender Registry, which will inevitably fuck with him, but now the entire internet knows what he did? No punishment should last for an entire lifetime, if the person being punished has had a true change of heart. I'm obviously not saying that this is the case here, because I don't know that, but the main purpose of any punishment should be to rehabilitate, not to punish for punishment's sake. This is taking away the possibility of rehabilitation.

Secondly, if people see shit like this, some of them will start thinking it's okay to publicly shame other people who they think have done something wrong. No, it fucking isn't. Sometimes it's deserved, even if not the best way to handle things, but sometimes it isn't. A post like this on the internet will not go away once it's been posted, and if the person being shamed hasn't actually done anything wrong, or the post doesn't tell the full story, or something else is being fucked with to suit the victim's story better, the punishment will be undeserved, in which, congratulations, you have been a part of a person getting accused unfairly, getting his life fucked up unfairly and overall just promoting mob mentality, which will never bring any good.

And thirdly, you're not giving the guy a chance to defend himself. Again, in this particular case he might've already said everything he has to say on the matter and his defense was found wanting, I don't know, because I haven't followed that case as intently as some apparently have. What I do know, however, is that in general, the accused must always have a chance to defend themself, lest we risk an innocent man being harmed. And this kind of a mob court will never give the accused an adequate chance to defend themselves. If this is the way people deal with accusing people of very serious crimes, then there's something very wrong with people's perception of justice.

This is not a defense of Brock Turner, because if what I've read is true, he should be in prison far longer than he is/was/has been. What I'm saying is: public shaming, even if done for the right reasons, can never be right because of the effects it has are usually unproportional to the damage done and can, in some cases, completely ruin the life of someone who hasn't even done anything wrong. And most importantly, there's no way to take it back.

I get it, I do. But I don't care. And this shit getting posted over and over makes me care less.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You keep saying you're not defending him and you keep saying you don't sypathise with him. But all you do in this post are those two.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 4

He's hatin' the game, not the player.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Part of criminal offending is public ostracism when released. This rapist did not serve an appropriate punishment, he is due extra ostracism

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

What if his victims wants to try to move foward and you people keep plastering her attackers face everywhere. Way to make her re live it

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

This annoys me. 1) It's not "rape," it's penetration with an object (his fingers). Rape is penetration with a penis. 1/

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

2) The actual charges of rape were dropped due to evidence. 3) He was found guilty of penetration of an unconscious person, 2/

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

penetration of an intoxicated person and assault to commit a sex crime. These are stacked charges for the same, single act. 3/

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

4) They were both drunk and she left the club with him to go back to his place to have sex. They were fooling around when she passed out. 4/

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

He felt her up, then got caught by a few bystanders. 5) Yes, he only did 6 months. But he has a felony conviction... 5/

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

...and must register as a sex offender *for the rest of his life.* 6/6

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Ok you made your case........Brock!!!

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Im not going to touch on every point you made, that would take to long. But since the judge didn't punish him the people will.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

He raped a passed out girl, that's it. There is no 2 side of the story.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 3

not really, this is imgur after all, but for the three people that might actually read it, i figured i might as well post it

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The only reason he is being shamed is because he was given a mere slap on the wrist. His def dev team tried to paint her as not a victim and

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

He as a saint. It is much deserved in this case. His "apology" never recognizes her as the victim, but he is a victim of alcohol.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0