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The official Trump reelection site is apparently stealing and manipulating people's personal pics, and without permission.
FP EDIT: As some commenters have noted, this ISN'T an official campaign manip, but a third-party one, trying to glom money by playing remora to the official campaign. I wanted to make sure that I was being an honest player here, so I'm adding this correction, and leaving my initial INcorrect comment, above. Thanks, and have a happy Saturday.
FP EDIT 2: Link to the original tweet: https://twitter.com/ItsRykard/status/1172426476848742402
FP EDIT 3: Send music recommendations. Or whatever.
Asteroidrules
Scam artist runs scam campaign, what a surprise.
jabreezyfosheezy
Can we get a link? I keep looking through his site and can’t find this. Granted, not a fan, but I do like me some fax.
Slvrdgr
I mean it's not like they can actually get someone to where the hat for the picture. Gotta resort to more fuckery.
EroticZombiePants
Oh I see people in Trump hats. It's just that they are always really old men and not models.
YourUpstairsNeighbor
At least they used photoshop instead of a sharpie.
TonnerreCadien
This really should be the top comment. I, at least, think you won the Internet today!
TylerWCox
Thanks for the correction. I appreciate anyone willing to make sure the correct info is being spread.
aravena
Love the lack of evidence and Imgur is going off.
Imafishwithlegs
About to say this does seem kind of off doesn’t it. Why would they photoshop someone knowing they would immediately get called out for it?
clide005
Fuck trump
CloseupCaptionReaction
rebel1996
Looks like a marketing company, not the campaign and he’s British so probably doesn’t have jurisdiction
thegiantviking
The photo is in London, ho ho ho.. FFS
GreaseMonkeyOfLove
They were cropped out....as if any trump supporters would recognize them.
bloatyOs
Stable genius
ThailandExpress
InappropriateAbeLincoln
He meant the television show.
GutterSkunk
Dun dun!
ThatOneFriendWhoTriesTooHard
How do we know he didn't sell the image as a stock photo, or in a modeling shoot? Do we know this is a personal photo?
Imafishwithlegs
It just seems odd they wouldnt use a supporter to wear the hat but instead would find someone who isnt one and photoshop their pic instead
ThatOneFriendWhoTriesTooHard
Photoshop is pretty fast and easy. More so than an actual photoshoot that would still require post processing anyway.
Imafishwithlegs
But again you literally find an attractive person and put a hat one them, versus find a person not affiliated with you and photoshoping them
okis316
Fake news
BionicBeach
Can’t find any articles on this but the hat does not look to be on the official Trump site. Likely a Chinese hat seller.
cinematicheart
"Chinese hat sellee" who do you think makes the official maga hats?
brassmule
All the Trump hats are made in the USA by Cali-Fame of Los Angeles, a well-known and long-time US manufacturer.
brassmule
Definitely the case. Chinese do not obey international IP, and also don't give a fuck about using an image without permission, either.
brassmule
And USPS customers subsidize the cost of shipping *from* China due to their Universial Postal Union treaty status as a "developing" country.
brassmule
This makes the scam here possible: "pay only shipping and handling." https://www.sellerdeck.co.uk/2017/09/04/the-just-pay-shipping-scam/
BionicBeach
Yeah I heard about that on NPR. :(
asplenium
Noahbalboa82
Thanks! I hate it!
NlGHTW0LF
"But her emails!!!"
ilovecake
PercussionFish
worldsbiggestnickelbackfan
Ouch
Sasurau
Buttery males.
plymouthvaliant
JapAnus
What does this have to do with the post?
RobertThatsOutOfMyPerviewMuller
Absolutely nothing. They just need something to cry about
JapAnus
yeah, leftists do love to cry. I just didn't understand why he brought up the email scandal in this case.
RobertThatsOutOfMyPerviewMuller
Me either. And that's what could possibly be the problem with today. We just don't understand each other or willing to.
cousteau
And I bet y'all still gonna manage to upvote this clown for a second term.
RobertThatsOutOfMyPerviewMuller
Oh cause who's better? The dems who want to take away everything and taxes us to death and dont give a shit about american citizens.
TonnerreCadien
Just a reminder that was the popular vote LOSER. And don't think for a minute that doesn't bother Captain Thinskin.
cousteau
He still got like 95% as many votes as the opponent, which is still a lot considering the show he pulled in the campaign.
cousteau
(Plus y'all already knew the popular vote means nothing in the election system beforehand… anyone feels like changing that?)
TonnerreCadien
Don't think I'm not scared, Man. And there is a movement to change the Electoral College, but it won't be easy. Lache pas, comme ça dit!
TonnerreCadien
D'oh! "He" was the popular vote LOSER! Left out the word "he"
owensas1188
Why would you leave your original incorrect comment? If you know its factually incorrect either remove the post or take out the incorrect
softballguy
Because I want people to know I got it wrong the first time. I shouldn't hide that I screwed up.
meloncanister
why not correct it and add a notation that you were wrong initially? Do you not think with such divisive times it isn't of utmost important
meloncanister
ance* to do your best to make people know of your mistake if you made one? Not hide it in a change log?
brassmule
Read the print on the ad. It's a scam: https://www.sellerdeck.co.uk/2017/09/04/the-just-pay-shipping-scam/
JarethTheGoblinKingsBulge
This is fake news. You are the problem posting this nonsense
brassmule
What's hilarious is all the people raging against Trump about it, when they're not paying attention to the details. Original ad is a scam.
brassmule
They ask you to "only pay shipping & handling" for an item that "normally retails on Amazon for $29.99."
brassmule
Such an obvious scam: https://www.sellerdeck.co.uk/2017/09/04/the-just-pay-shipping-scam/
pepelovesbananas
But..they’re British, the pic shows they are in central London! Surely they could of found at least a US citizen to photoshop!
TonnerreCadien
They cropped it so you can't really make out Big Ben or the ferris wheel.
brassmule
You didn't read the fine print. It's not the Trump campaign. Is a scam: https://www.sellerdeck.co.uk/2017/09/04/the-just-pay-shipping-scam/
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
They know their audience very well and that audience could be convinced this picture was taken on the moon... so...
cousteau
…well, if they've shopped the hat, cropping the background doesn't sound as going that far in comparison.
krishwedds
Can’t wear a red hat anymore
softballguy
As an Angels fan, this is the worst part of it all. https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41GLS3ghmGL.jpg
TuggSpeedmann
Doubly whammy
RobertThatsOutOfMyPerviewMuller
Yeah cause crazy libtards will physically attack you for just a hat......crazy times we live in
ScottaHemi
and face no legal issues in doing so...
ScottaHemi
https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2019/09/portland-grand-jury-clears-pair-accused-of-pummeling-man-in-maga-hat-outside-of-bar.html
SegaGenesisEvangelion
That article says he wore it specifically to provoke reactions, had been in altercations earlier at different bars that night, and got in
SegaGenesisEvangelion
the face of one of the accused in the parking lot for basically giving him the stink eye for the hat. Try harder to play victim.
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YourMomsNewBoyfriend
Sees red hat in public: “okay it’s a red trucker hat for sure but I’m not wearing my glasses so benefit of the doubt”
Elpepitos
Trump campaign doing shady things, no way, no... oh wait.
enderite
pflugerville
Honestly, its hard to trust either side on this one.
buiksloot
On what “one”, Trumpkin?
enderite
TigerThong
2 drastically different sides. but probably both are to blame cause i confuse bias with ignoring reality
primarian
bOtH sIdEs
PourMeAPuppersPlease
Just please don't vote for this cunt!
softballguy
Title of the post says it all for you.
pflugerville
I guess no one got it
LasciviousHedgehog
A Trump campaign doing illegal and shady shit with peoples personal information? Well slap my ass and call me Sally!
RenaissanceFaireMan
PourMeAPuppersPlease
Just please don't vote for this cunt!
AawesomeAardvaark
You're the boss, Sally
meloncanister
it was already proven it wasn't trumps campaign.
CulturallyEmbiggened
This is not a shock, their campaign has misused photoshop a couple of dozen times in the past, they're either reckless or pressed for time
CulturallyEmbiggened
https://www.adweek.com/creativity/internet-sleuths-prove-donald-trump-used-image-nazi-soldiers-patriotic-tweet-165895/ (my favorite one)
meloncanister
one would argue dog whistle, another sabotage. But this looks like reenactors, and maybe being patriotic means defeating nazis.
meloncanister
art is pretty subjective. ya kno
codnuggets
No need for fancy smancy photoshop...just need a sharpie!
LasciviousHedgehog
Is their such a thing a freudian photoshop?
imagine1day
There needs to be a new entry on Urban Dictionary.
mydisciplesarelegion
I think you just coined the phrase!
TheCaptain00
Jesus tap-dancing fucking christ. You could tell me he raped a llama and I'd just shrug and say not surprised at this point.
rebel1996
Yet the Democrats are espousing real nazi tactics like guns bans and socialism. Check out Beto
inthe90swediddrugs
Yup cause the Nazis were socialists...
tReasonoustRump
Maybe they did it on purpose
CulturallyEmbiggened
God I hope not
Arthiem
I'd say sue 'em but laws don't seem to apply anymore.
gingergiggle
To civilians
prepeymad
Fuck. It hurts knowing this.
JifLover
Looked it up, apparently the guy didn't mind that much. Laughed it off and used the free publicity to promote a charity he likes.
AwwDamn321
This is slander!
koops
Arthiem
Thanks Obama
Whitebeardthepirate
Trump would probably claim that tweet "fake news" and then go attempt to hire on more staff for longer than a week
Ryanator50
naw they apply. they system is just having a hard time processing all the claims at the same time. when the bow breaks he's fucked.
Manbehindthemadness
Truer words
longNECKpeople
Anything you post on social media belongs for them to sell. We're all in a stock photo collection. Cant sue over what isnt yours.
PourMeAPuppersPlease
Just please don't vote for this cunt!
shooterl7
To be faaaaaiiiirrr... the laws have rarely applied to the lawmakers historically
Zugoola
Try to get a free hat
brassmule
It's a "shipping and handling only" scam. https://www.sellerdeck.co.uk/2017/09/04/the-just-pay-shipping-scam/
n3ckr0mantic
Frighteningly so, when it comes to Trump's interests and cronies.
BuzzedLightBeerz
As if it’s only Trump...
chrisinsocalif
Didn't most people agree when signing up for social media, it's considered something like "public domain" and pictures can be used?
Arthiem
In the U.S yes, but it's not recognized in UK courts.
yzark01
No. Only to the company hosting the pictures, not third parties.
planetfinder
You surrender the rights to the company but not everybody.
chrisinsocalif
Can the company sell the picture?
27yoUGLYvirgin
No. They can put it on a mug and sell the mug. They can't sell the picture as a picture.
Ilikedyourimage
I'm like 70% positive the 2020 campaign is a separate legal entity from Trump and would settle quietly to avoid a drawn out lawsuit
Arthiem
It is, candidates are rarely in charge of their own campaign teams directly. Even their slogans are made by interns.
TigerThong
presidents are kings now, its fucking awful
MADchemEE
*Lawful . But seriously, that Nixon quote comes to mind "I'm saying, that when the President does it, it's NOT illegal"
AZRAELSBLADE
The tree of freedom must from time to time be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots etc
ght2v1
Do sue though.
Ryanator50
absolutely. it needs to go on record.
Arthiem
And it will go to U.K court where they wont be able to buddy up, because trump insulted the Queen's family.
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gtmiller
Unlikely as his profile has the Union Jack on it. Going to guess they did it illegally.
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gtmiller
Hell no they wouldn't. An unpaid intern found the pic. Keep in mind Trump gave a speech at a pac with the doctored presidential seal.
brownribbon
Also Union Jack means nothing as to whether the pic was acquired legally. No stopping my American ass from putting a Serb flag in my handle
gtmiller
It implies they are UK. It's not definitive, but it suggests an intern fucked up on picking stock models.
brownribbon
He’s a British model and some stock photo company took his pic and sold it to the trump campaign to use. Perfectly legal.
gtmiller
I have doubts they would jump the pond; I know they can but it risks obvious instances like foriegn monuments.
HypersonicHero
Please. This is an administration that endorsed a pedophile for senate. Due diligence isn’t in their vocabulary.
brassmule
You didn't do your own due diligence, as this is not the Trump campaign website or image. It's a "shipping and handling only" scam.
brassmule
Read the print on the ad and connect the dots: https://www.sellerdeck.co.uk/2017/09/04/the-just-pay-shipping-scam/
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HypersonicHero
Right... you actually think they investigated him? FBI was forced to not interview anyone and told to say he was innocent. Legal my ass
Trollydarollypolly
That's not the Trump reelection campaign website. It's someone BS social media scam ad.
RobertThatsOutOfMyPerviewMuller
Wait so you're telling me that someone faked something to make trump and trump supporters to look bad? Shocking
Slander7
It actually is more surprising than the opposite, given how consistent this is with their behavior.
Sprixxen
The site was created by Jussie Smollett
RobertThatsOutOfMyPerviewMuller
I laughed harder then I'm willing to admit to this comment
brassmule
Yeah, the Trump campaign doesn't sell stuff on Amazon.
brassmule
And for that matter: NO CAMPAIGN from ANY candidate sells on Amazon. Cripes you people are suckers.
oopsIdroppedmypocketpasta
Dude, Donald Trump sells stuff *with the Presidential Seal on it* at his golf courses. I'm pretty sure that's illegal, too. No consequences.
blissblush
You *could* sue the campaign. Anyone using your likeness has to obtain your permission. Also, if you took the photo, you own the IP rights.
hertta
You contradict your first statement with your second statement. The second statement is mostly correct.
PourMeAPuppersPlease
Just please don't vote for this cunt!
meloncanister
he already corrected saying it wasn't the campaign
tj764
i dont think you would get enogh enough out of it to justify lawyering up, unless you can prove damages then maby worth
thelostg
Facebook, I believe, instituted a “ your pictures become ours thing”
KarateCanine
Not if you post it online.
Vaanhalen
No you cant. Hes a model who sold the rights to his likeness. This isnt unique they're just making a fuss. This is normal retail advertising
rollingstoneworks
Excuse me. Had to shake my head for minute. This is not retail advertising. This is a political ad. No, this is not normal.
rollingstoneworks
I know..." Politics is advertising" No, it's not. This is not normal. Don't normalize this. (Not you, Vaanhalen, anyone.) These are lies.
Thebabysitter
Lobuttomize
Instagram has the rights to your photos so he couldn't
Lobuttomize
Why the heck am I at 0 points and the twitter comment is +8 when it's not twitter
Lobuttomize
Do people not understand that the "Twitter for iPhone" is the person who took the screenshot? rykardjenkins is his insta name
Lobuttomize
Err I mean it's Rykard posting via Twitter but the 2nd image of the twitter post is a screenshot of his insta. Woops
Jusmar
The original producer of an image retains copyrights of it regardless of how it is shared.
Lobuttomize
If the ToS state you're handing over the rights of everything posted and you accept then you'll have to see them in court
Jusmar
The terms and conditions are carte blanche to prevent you from having to individually license every single piece of content uploaded.
Jusmar
3. If you raise an issue with someone stealing your image they will remove it because *you* have rights to it, not the platform.
Jusmar
You give the company rights to use that image in whatever means necessary for operation, but they do not retain copyrights of it, you do.
Lobuttomize
Our Privacy Policy explains how we and some of the companies we work with collect, use, share and protect information
Lobuttomize
Under "information collected" is "user content" which is whatever you upload. They can use it pretty much how they want
Leithoa
Twitter ToS claims the right to sublicense anything you post w/o notice to you
jcw99
Luckelly, the UK is currently still in the EU and hence Twitter can use their ToS as toilet paper
TheBurritoConfederacy
http://dunnerlaw.com/twitters-terms-of-service-do-not-permit-third-parties-to-commercially-use-content
JBib
Read the very first sentence. Slowly.
Leithoa
Yes, OTHER than twitter. A campaign can pay twitter for a database of photos & use them as they wish.
TheBurritoConfederacy
[citation needed]
Leithoa
The legal page linked, twitter ToS........these are first page of google answers.
Leithoa
*within the terms of the license w/ twitter
LusciousLucius
Twitter has a license to use the photo, as do their "partners". But they can't actually sell your pics. They don't own the copyright.
naygum
The right to republish a tweet (say, by embedding it) is very different than someone altering the picture and using it to sell ball caps.
Leithoa
Correct, which is why they said sublicense, not republish.
aptatlas
Guys here’s the rule...read the whole article or wait a day before commenting on Trump “controversy”. Turns out the person is selling knock
NoOneKnowsImLying
I couldn't find anything about what you're saying when I searched for it. Found that Walmart is selling cheap knockoffs but that's it.
NoOneKnowsImLying
This dude doesn't seem to care at all though, finding the whole thing funny actually. He just now wants a free weeks stay at Trump tower.
aptatlas
2 off MAGA hats. Note in both of the articles they say somebody or unofficial.
brassmule
It's worse than that! It's a "shipping and handling fee only" scam. https://www.sellerdeck.co.uk/2017/09/04/the-just-pay-shipping-scam/
brassmule
All the stable genius in here blaming the Trump campaign, but can't even notice a well-known scam. :golf_clap:
NoOneKnowsImLying
Ok, but where are you finding a connection between this dude and some scam stuff? Post a source if you have one.
brassmule
Read the print on the ad to the left. Whoever is the scammer behind it used the guy's image as part of their scam.
DarkSock
Like his 40 IQ window-licking supporters would ever give a shit...
Imhonestlypartying
All the those furrow-browed knuckle draggers care about is trolling people
hungoveratworkguy
PlusHooks
https://i.imgur.com/dLnRAE1
GreaseMonkeyOfLove
Whoever photochopped it actually thought trump supporters would recognize Big Ben and the London Eye and edited them out.....hahahahaha!
IZ42
Hey don't insult the mentally disabled, they at least mean well, unlike redhats
filben7
My president is a raging psycho dipshit!
GCRust
Conser1
And it's shit like this that'll get him reelected. Well, that and the Democrats fucking up like they are.
kobrakaimf
Sure. Because if they’re nice to the idiot racists they’ll surely vote for a Democrat next time.
Leithreas
If a meme that hurts your feelings is enough to make you vote for him despite all his crap, you were going to vote for him anyway.
Conser1
2 things: 1. I didn't vote for Trump. Didn't vote for anyone, actually. 2. My feelings aren't hurt. I'm just facepalming at y'all. You 1/2
Conser1
2/2 guys said that one republican was just digging himself a hole about higher education, but you're doing the same thing.
Leithreas
If your feelings aren't hurt, my comment isn't for you. But it's still true. All these "this will make me vote Trump" folks would anyway.
Conser1
Actually, some Bernie supporters voted for Trump even after Bernie endorsed Hillary. So, probably not always the case.
DarkSock
Bruh...if you didn’t vote in 2016...then by default you voted for Trump. Please show up this time. Help to defeat the gerrymandering.
RobertThatsOutOfMyPerviewMuller
Conser1
L O fucking L. Because I didn't vote at all because both were shitshows, I voted for Trump. See? It's shit like this that'll make me 1/
Imhonestlypartying
Exactly how are Democrats "fucking up"?
Conser1
Beto's gun shit, Bernie's GND, Biden's health problems, Yang holding a raffle, Gabbard not qualifying, etc. Too many candidates also.
Bregon
I mean it's more the candidates. The democratic debate made them all look stupid. Half the time they were bickering or digging at each other
Bregon
The other half of the time was talking about fixing the divide in our nation followed by insulting others. I'd love to see this divide fixed
Bregon
Attacking other people doesnt start healing Trump hasnt helped it dont get me wrong he's insulting but we should have a president above
PourMeAPuppersPlease
Just please don't vote for this cunt!
Conser1
I didn't in 2016 and don't plan on it in 2020.
SithShodan
They still support him saying "I never said that" even though there's video evidence. They say it's the Deep State hacking, not him.
SithShodan
And that...that's not even how it works ,_,
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
It’s honestly becoming mind blowing. Like how can you even tie your shoes if you can’t see through this bullshit?
brassmule
Quite an ironic statement, given the reality of this post that you failed to see through. Kind of mind blowingly obvious, too.
brassmule
Can't even ID a simple and well-known scam. Pathetic.
DarkSock
For a MAGAt’s feelings-over-facts mindset it’s easier to double down on a bad bet than ever admit a mistake:
RobertThatsOutOfMyPerviewMuller
Comet260
Easy answer: Trump hates brown people. I mean, all you have to do is looks at his comments about The Bahamas.
DarkSock
Then there’s one demographic he should LOVE:
Comet260
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXV623fizEk
ShouldersDeepInAHorse
Thankfully Trump's popularity has been dropping almost since day 1. I thought of him as the lesser evil when he was elected, regret it now..
brauntosaurus
yo folks stop downvoting a person who said they made a mistake. I'm a huge fuckin liberal but if y'all think the way to get people to
brauntosaurus
not vote for trump is to shame them when they say "I made a mistake and regret it", you're a fucking idiot.
RobertThatsOutOfMyPerviewMuller
Crazy how his popularity has been going up but somehow to you his supporters have been dropping??
Imhonestlypartying
According to what metric has his popularity increased?
RobertThatsOutOfMyPerviewMuller
You're stupid poles were so wrong in 2016 it wasnt even funny. Trump supporters dont do so publicly because of how crazy the left is.
RobertThatsOutOfMyPerviewMuller
He literally fills stadiums. What Democrats candidates have been doing that???
Imhonestlypartying
That's not a metric you can reliably use for measuring whether his popularity increased. Is that all you base your claim on?
ShouldersDeepInAHorse
I mean he has a 55% dissaproval rating that's been dipping episodically, seems like a majority to me.
RobertThatsOutOfMyPerviewMuller
And what pole did you get that percentage from????
ShouldersDeepInAHorse
Just googled the most recent one, but it had 3 options, everyone, adults, and likely voters, not sure how much that affects the result.
brauntosaurus
I'm honestly ok with this take. Lots of mis-information in the 2016 campaigns and depending on your circles, you could have been
brauntosaurus
fed some very convincing lies. All that matters *now* is you take stock of your mistakes (if you see them that way) and try to right it.
ShouldersDeepInAHorse
I still don't feel safe about our news now though, if someone's pushing an agenda, chances are the oppositions' just pushing the reverse.
ShouldersDeepInAHorse
This is specific to news by the way, as for politicians it's pretty different.