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Sign on the door of a local Korean restaurant.
Dec 21, 2025 3:07 PM
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Sign on the door of a local Korean restaurant.
UncleMartha
For whatever it's worth, there are signs to this effect in shop and restaurant windows ALL OVER New Orleans. I was happy to see that.
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Goatfer
They can still enter lobby's, parking lots, and other areas open to the public. In these cases, tell them, "I'm sorry, we are having a private event and are closed to the public."
billmontgomery529000
When the Korean population is more American than people who were born here.
OdinYggd
They would probably just bust down the door and take everyone inside hostage knowing that as federal agents it won't be possible for local and state authorities to stop them.
Daimoth
Haha probably because they've got a kitchen filled with latinx people getting paid 4$/hr
JunkFoodVanDame
Heat melts ice and it cracks under pressure.
SecretAgentSuperBooger
jlist
I totally support this!
qshamtech
I would eat there just because of this sign. Plus Korean food…yummm!
Svartsinn
Some chud never missing a chance to play the victim: "I don't feel comfortable shopping at this unpatriotic store!"
IG1Fields
This sign needs to be on every door of every business establishment and all privately owned areas that the public has access to as well.
toogoodtomiss
GLWT
ThisNameUnavailable
So much for the tolerant left! /s
thedtp
Timesarrows
F ICE
thedtp
All my homies hate ICE.
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Suomijuusto89
What if ICE says they can't read when they come in?
IhopeUgetwhatUvoted4
Deny them gas.
whiskeywonka
Yes they can prevent them from private areas. Not from the public ones. Unless your place has been a private club like Costco, this does nothing but stops them from checking in say the kitchen or the back store rooms, etc, when normal customers are not allowed. And if they were already chasing someone who runs into your place, they do not have to stop, just like the city/state police do not.
malachilenomade
Any business has the right to turn customers away. If they don't want ICE in their restaurant, then no ICE in their restaurant.
whiskeywonka
Yes they do. You have to ask them to leave. You cant post a sign saying it. That would be like posting a sign that says "$City Police Department not allowed" and it runs afoul of the same laws. If they refuse to leave (and dont have a warrant or chased someone in) then you call the police and trespass those individuals. Any business that rely on those signs and does anything more than call the police, will have a very bad legal time. I am recommending that people do it right.
jimhotep
Generally, this is yes, you can prevent them from searching anywhere in your business except when a) they have a warrant, b) observe a crime inside a business in the business's publicly accessible space, c) probable cause, d) in pursuit of a suspect, see b. They cannot just come into publicly accessible spaces in search of a crime. That is an illegal search and seizure. In any case, it will be challenged by the court.
whiskeywonka
Anything they can see from public falls under the plain view doctrine. They very well can go fishing all they want, till someone asks them to leave. They can not go fishing in places not open to normal customers.Then they have to leave. A sign can not block anyone because of their employment. Try blocking the city police, or fire department, or EMS. An agent of the business needs to ask them to leave, and they have to leave. Do it right, or lose to ICE.
OdinYggd
The courts won't hear the case till months after they barged in and arrested everyone who they didn't like the looks of or talked back at all. By then lives have already been turned upside down.
Unfortunately when you have a rogue agency like that, the law can be considered to no longer apply.
jimhotep
It's the tool we have, and regardless of how slow time bends toward justice.
Niagaran
Places of business are not "public" areas, you moldy cumrag.
wandermanspacebot
You/re wrong and I'm not sure why you're calling this person names when they're just trying to give accurate information. Source: I'm a business owner on a city where ICE and CBP are operating and an immigration attorney told me the same thing.
Niagaran
Fuck off, lying bootlicker
whiskeywonka
The term they dont get is "Private spaces held open for the public" and exactly as i said, you ask them to leave and they have to. Just like any other patron would, with the exceptions noted, just like any law enforcement. The problem is they assume knowing the law and how not to run afoul of it means i support how ICE is doing things, which I dont but im not radical enough for them.
wandermanspacebot
I guess all the downvotes are more experienced immigration attorneys? Same with the guy who responded and blocked me before I could read it. Good luck, geniuses.
TI99Kitty
As my managers at Walmart loved to remind "customers" who insisted they can do whatever they want in a public place, this business may be *accessible* to the public, but it is still private property.
whiskeywonka
Yes its called "private property open to the public" so you know what I said is right. You want them to leave, then a agent for the business has to tell them to leave. Not a sign saying "no one who has ever done something we dont like" or any other such thing.
TI99Kitty
Who do you think put up the sign?
whiskeywonka
The sign is meaningless as it is not citing any law whatsoever and just the feelings of the owner. Its as legal as "We do not serve blue eyed people here". The closest the sign gets to a legally enforceable statement is about causing a disruption. You can not exclude a ICE agent with a sign just for being a ICE agent. When they walk in they have to be asked to leave if they are not conducting official business, and if they refuse you call the cops and issue a trespass.
spitfires2000
But what if ICE just ignores this sign and storms in, guns out? Then what? Legal action?
WellAckchually
Stopping ICE is not the intention of the sign. Remember a lot of Americans think of ICE as the good guys. Gestures like this remind scared people they're not alone and tell ignorant people they should be paying attention. It's not fighting ICE, it's fighting the normalization of what they're doing
Noevilgifs
The last time armed people stormed korean establishments we got
...roof koreans
wozat
If the LA Riots were anything to go by, the Koreans will have guns as well
ToSisPoS
To the roofs like back in LA
thatguydom
Do you remember the phenomenon of the "roof Koreans" during the Rodney King riots in LA?
kmikl
Honestly, I'm waiting for the day they try that in a place where they don't expect people to be armed.
Like a hair/nail salon.
KingHippie
Possibly. Maybe just another voice in the wilderness. ICE has just been doing whatever they feel like, with not a lot of consequence. Standing up to the bullshit may be ineffectual in small individual cases, but if enough USians actually start fighting this, it won't be small. It has to start somewhere.
MrsHowVeryDareYou
Better than nothing
Clayman8
Time for the return of the Roof Koreans, i think.
ThisIsAllYouCouldComeUpWith
That event has become politically significant to 2nd Amendment advocates and pro-gun circles. They organized in response to Black L.A. citizens protesting the Rodney King verdict. A Latino man and a Korean American man were killed.
judyblue
You have to keep in mind that ICE agents are, first and foremost, fucking cowards. Cowards only flex when they think they are guaranteed a win. Standing up to them is an effective deterrent.
They're cosplaying soldiers. They want to be seen as action hero tough guys, the type who would storm in, guns out. But they only do shit like that when they think they can get away with it, when they think we're too scared of them to resist. Signs like this show we're not.
BrdCdn
The sign is great and all but short of physical resistance they know they can get away with anything. They have the backing of the state. They've shown repeatedly they don't care about laws and won't care about this sign either.
sleepinggreenidea
One of the clearest lessons you learn from paying attention to the practice of law is that rights w/o an enforcement mechanism are not rights. Here, there is no enforcement mechanism b/c you'd need to get police to arrest them (they won't), prosecutors to prosecute them (they won't), and if you did all that, judges to let the cases proceed to a verdict (this is the most likely, but even here they likely won't b/c of higher court precedents). Your best chance is civil suit, and that's a long shot
PileOfWalthers
It's a KOREAN restaurant. Surely you have heard of Rooftop Koreans??
ImgurIsOutOfUsernames
No
testzero
Well gee, I guess nobody should ever resist anything, huh?
Sowhat101
Qualified immunity
Goatfer
Qualified Immunity is lost for violating clearly established laws, like the Constitution.
Sowhat101
And how often have you seen a failed prosecution?
sunyudai
Doesn't apply criminal charges for illegal acts such as what ICE has been doing.
backrideup9
It's cute that you still have hope. Some % of the US population is going to have to rip back the corrupted power of the judiciary by force at some point very soon. Until then, we're fucked.
sunyudai
... knowing how the system works is important for knowing how to put back together the shattered pieces of it when this is all said and done.
The fact that ICE is routinely violating the law should not be forgotten just because the powers that are supposed to keep that sort of thing in check have been subverted.
GooteMoo
Call the police and tell them armed strangers are invading yoir private property. Defending private property is maybe the only thing the cops actually know how to do.
JAPONfan
bang bang I shot the ICe down.
PosthumousExile
Clown down
Tatsumaru004
It's literally what the second amendment was created for. It was to give people a way to prevent what was happening with British troops entering private homes and establishments. It's meant to defend yourself from out of control troops. And I hope people eventually realize that and remember the second amendment is for everyone. We've got to defend ourselves no one is coming to help us and Trump and the GOP are not going to willingly step down. Ice is removing people who might help fight.
judyblue
No, it literally wasn't. SCOTUS didn't assert that the 2A covered an individual's right to own a gun for self defense until 2008 (District of Columbia v. Heller) - after decades of right-wing propagandists pushing the very same lie you cited. 5-4 decision, and a bad one.
The 2A was created so Congress couldn't disband the state militias. In the dissenting opinion on Heller, Stevens points out that "bear arms" was commonly known to mean "participate in the army" in the 18th century.
Fairemont
They could take them to civil court at least as it is then trespassing on private property. Would it work? Probably not. We'll, maybe, since they might not show up.
beezzarro
Open and shut case in the spirit of castle doctrine.
Nightcaste
They were told they weren't welcome so if they get shot it's on them.
StellarJay77
The sign alone is enough to deter cowards like ICE. They only target those they can easily beat. The sign conveys that the people running this restaurant are not afraid of them and that is more than enough to have them decide to move on to a more compliant target.
FuzzyX
You can then fairly have them arrested and take them to Court for trespass. It is private property with access rights removed meaning ICE would require a Judicial warrant to be able to lawfully enter.
Know your rights. Stand up for your rights and go give ICE that fight!
ElbowDeepInYou
The who to court, the masked rando that you have no idea of who they are? And suddenly no one else there knows either? How you gonna sue them. They mask up and drop ID for a reason.
oldguyexlurker
In Arizona there is a commercial no trespassing statute, that if posted makes it illegal to remain on a property once requested to leave by the owner OR any indidual granted that authority by the owner. You don't leave? The statute you are violating is right there on the wall for the responding police to make an arrest. (Old sign guy here.)
Leaps
The cops will come maybe if you are lucky, and they will just tell ICE to leave. Ain't no one getting arrested.
akafluffy
yes, calling the cops immediately is a legal action they can do, and ICE keeps being surprised that the cops don't actually care who signs your cheques and will not be on their side.
Imalwaysready
Lots of online grumbling and wringing of hands and then it’s forgotten as we go off to the next thing to come along, I imagine.
LuminoZero
One business refusing service and access can be easily bullied. An entire CITY of businesses refusing services and access will stop them dead.
Somebody has to be the first to stand up.
PTKrieg
In theory, if the cops make an illegal entry anything they find (directly or indirectly) then becomes "fruit of the poison tree", and can't be used in a court of law. In practice, judges will accept some pretty limp dick arguments for a lawful entry/search (see: any cop browbeating a suspect into leaving their door open during a traffic stop then treating it as an invitation to search), and none of it matters if you're in a cage in CECOT. That said, broad civilian push-back is critical, since 1/
PTKrieg
it forces them to spend more time and energy chasing false leads, exposes individual law enforcers to greater legal and personal hazard, and makes it harder to target the lone few who are asserting their rights as an actual cover to anything going on. 2/2
whiskeywonka
Depends on the situation. As long as they are not chasing someone who ran in, or have a warrant for someone known to work there, then you ask them to leave. If they dont, record it and call the police. Do not lie to them, it is a felony to lie to federal agents. Its "I do not answer questions with out my lawyer".
Knifesmith
This. Also, they can claim to have had "reasonable suspicion" that someone fitting the class of people that they are tasked to find is on the premises (i.e. since they're allowed legally now to profile, if they see someone tan enough through the window, they can claim "reasonable suspicion"), they can enter without a warrant. It's like if you crack the door to your house and officers see something "suspicious", they now have "reasonable suspicion" and can enter without a warrant.
Knifesmith
That being said, everyone letting them blatantly know that they're not welcome has effect. Doxxing them, and letting them know that they're not welcome in civilized society is even better. (generally not a fan of doxxing, but it seems to be an effective method against the orange gestapo).
Markuspsyches
Did you mean not to lie to ICE or the cops? If cops what if it is a lie if omission? "Masked individuals are trying to get into my store, I fear for my life"
beezzarro
Cops aren't federal
whiskeywonka
ICE is federal. I guess the "them" was not clear, even after saying federal. But also do not lie to 911 as that is a crime. Do everything by the book.
MoschopsUK
Those 2nd Amendment fundamentalists sure did turn out to be full of shit.
Filanwizard
Funny how the ammosexuals were all lined up and heavily armed over wearing a mask during COVID but now during actual active violation of the constitution they are kissing the boots.
spitfires2000
One would think those 2nd Amendment fundamentalists are on the ICE side.
whiskeywonka
ICE has not raided a 2a persons home or business with out a warrant. The clash people are advocating for has not happened.
Neuronyx
2A fundamentalists were all fucking nazi waiting for an excuse to kill people so maybe stop pretending they're gonna help.
pres465
Cowards that hide behind guns are still cowards when the lights come on and they are "expected" to act. It was never about the right to own a gun. It was about their fragile sense of power.
Feonir44
This, this is the correct answer, ammosexuals are cowards.
PipePistoleer
It was about tiny peens tbh
MrPengy
Excuse me, plenty of guys have small dicks and don't end up being bigoted nutjobs.
Not that I would know anything about it...
PipePistoleer
They have massive spirit peen
boognish115
They think the democrats and immigrants are the oppressors. Ain’t never gonna change their mind either.
YouCanCallMeAnything
They joined ICE, so... Yeah.
BobAllen2004
Have you seen the knife skills on those Asian chefs?
BlackHeartConstructs
Messing with them would be almost as bad as messing with John Wick's dog