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Ray Comfort is one of us!
Apr 27, 2013 1:42 AM
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kriigern
This really explains how religious people work. If they would see the evidence, they would deny it. As it would break their reality apart.
IfYouHaveANumberAtTheEndOfYourNameYouAreUnoriginal3
So he would do nothing then. Right? Right?!?
neogreenlantern
I wonder how people would react if god appeared to everyone and said "I don't exist" and then went poof. Both sides would lose their shit.
Andie553
Nah, we'd all know it was someone from the internet.
PeabaDiddy
This question makes me veray uncomfortable
PeabaDiddy
Why am I in the negatives? I'm making puns, imgur. PUNS!
Andied
Lol. Kinda like auto-answer on a netbot
tarataqa
I heard you say a netbot. Is this correct? Well I would make it a matter of urgent prayer, and ask God to give me wisdom on what to do next.
Andied
Back in your cave Siri... I mean Ray!
AdamThePole
You have the right to hold your religious beliefs, but not the right to have them respected.
DrJohnAZoidberg
This, so much this.
HermesConradBureaucrat37thClass
Shut up Zoidberg
arghnard
This is the first thread I've felt genuinely disappointed in. NEXT.
LifeInWatermelonSugar
I'm hoping his point was that faith has zero to do with proof. Honestly I'm jealous of people who have faith.
Majorgrunt
God isnt about proof, its about faith. They dont need to prove or disprove Gods existence to believe in his power.
Majorgrunt
Signed, an athiest.
Moonkey
Find comfort in yourself, Ray.
Longtimewatcherfirsttimewritingblahblahblahblah
That is a sin, and god watches you while you find comfort in yourself
rainbowism
It is how you live your life that is important. Making the best of every moment.
terribleinternetpunsfirstborn
That he is one of their top intellectual sorts is not very... Comforting
QWTFODDBALL
Upvote because he really is hailed as a champion of the christian faith. This is the best they have to offer.
Friendlylion
We accept all types of people here, accept Christians.
FannyBaws
I would have the biggest "Fuck yeah, knew it all along" moment in history
Nodwar
OriginalAndFunny
I disagree emphatically
OzaiR2k
That describes our relationship perfectly.
PSYchr
Loved it!
icantcomeupwithagudusername1
Hey guys, lets start an argument about religion.
Hey0P
Gotta go fast
CallMeInV
Meh, if we help people question their beliefs and reevaluate the reasons they have to believe them. It's worth it in the end.
jbellsprinkles
I will upvote this and only this. Then proceed to click next. Mmyes.
louiseclarkson
This is exactly what it's like talking to my Mum. She's physically incapable of thinking life is possible without God. Drives me mad.
amsong
If nothing we do matters, then all that matters is what we do.
H1tM3
Why do these people not recognize that religion no longer has a place in society.
QWTFODDBALL
Because they personally need it to validate their existence.
MrRoryPond
Because it has a place. Religion gives us our moral code. Unless you want to be murdered and live in a lawless society.
devilsfan
If religious moral code is the only thing stopping you from murdering someone, then you're a terrible human being.
H1tM3
So you're telling me that either a) atheists are secretly anarchists or b) religious people have very little between them and murder
devilsfan
(not necessarily you specifically but anyone who thinks that)
notasrelevant
It's amazing how, regardless of any religion, the same general moral codes exist in most cultures and atheists aren't murderous savages.
MrRoryPond
Very few atheist families today were atheist families 1000 years ago. IMO their morals are still rooted in religion.
notasrelevant
that keeps us from raping and killing each other. It's interesting how social animals follow similar rules/morals without religion. (2)
notasrelevant
And that is exactly what it is: opinion. There is no basis to support it and it's ridiculous to assume that religion is the only thing (1)
notasrelevant
There's definitely no way that animals, including humans, could have a natural tendency to not kill each other all the time. (3)
JoshAllsop
Are you serious? Hahahahahahahahahahaha surely not. If you would kill people without the threat of god, you are a sorry piece of work.
MrRoryPond
Not every part of religion is about a threat of some eternal damnation. Hard to believe, but some of it is about love.
JoshAllsop
Maybe you should re-read what you said. You implied that without the belief in god people would go around murdering each other.
MrRoryPond
I know what I said. Love thy neighbor. Do not steal. Blah Blah. You have something I want. Can I kill you for it? What would stop me?
CharlesFuckingBronson
If someone's favorite color is red, this is like asking "What if it was scientifically proven that blue was a better color?
CharlesFuckingBronson
Metaphysical questions are inherently unprovable! Choose to believe what you want and fucking let it go!
AdamThePole
Stupid analogy that bears no relation to theological debate.
CharlesFuckingBronson
My point is that "theological debates" aren't debates, because there are no facts on either side and nothing can ever be resolved.
GendoIkari
There is definitely only 1 side that is lacking evidence & that is from the theists. THAT is why these arent debates, only 1 side has a case
CharlesFuckingBronson
It's because there are bigoted assholes on both sides. Tolerant people don't need to win "debates" because we WANT diversity of ideas.
tellmeaskme
Science proves things,while religion is based on belief.Its not about what's better but its clear that science is based on facts:in reality.
CharlesFuckingBronson
THEY ARE NOT OPPOSITES! Most religion doctrine addresses metaphysical questions, the rest is metaphor and knowledge of the day.
tellmeaskme
I feel that religion is not on a search for answers,it claims it already has all the answers,while science searches.I think that's different
aconok
welp i guess his answer is continue life as usual in denial and delusion.
CitizenDickbag
Ray Comfort is, quite seriously, one of the dumbest sacks of shit on the planet. This guy did "The Banana is the Atheist's Nightmare" bit.
kamosey
"Did I fucking stutter?" -Brian Talbot
PutItInNeutral
All people's beliefs are equally ridiculous... especially mine.
karlywithak
Sundrop
Getting sick of your shit, Ray.
somegeekinVT
Who isn't?
baikinmon
Kirk Cameron ?
Sundrop
Fucking, Ray.
griffinmetal
What if there was real proof for evolution??? oh wait. you're just ignoring proof. got it.
orp0piru
This. This is where the beef is.
Mightbeacat
All intelligent religious people I know believe in evolution.
bmw5st
I know a brilliant PhD student who believes in evolution but doesn't believe we "came from monkeys." Wasn't sure how to respond...
Mightbeacat
Tecccchhhnicallyyy he's right. We didn't evolve from monkeys we share a common ancestor.
bmw5st
That's exactly what I told her. She didn't appreciate it. She said, "I am a child of God, not some ancestral monkey!" I facepalmed.
Mightbeacat
Woof. Ancestral monkey sounds pretty cool actually.
thegreatandpowerfulkawa
Key word: intelligent.
BeeExpert
Fun fact: The catholic church doesn't deny evolution. I think some Catholics do, but most dont. Not sure about protestants.
brobeans99
Zero Catholics deny evolution and the Catholic Church has officially accepted it since 1950's, nor do they see it conflicting religion
bmw5st
I have a Catholic friend who denies evolution even though she is aware of the church doctrine. There's one for you.
eronth
"Zero Catholics deny". Yeah I'm gonna go with that's wrong.
brobeans99
Yeah im gonna go with official church policy
eronth
That doesn't mean every Catholic abides by that.
larrylobster
I think the official policy is that evolution exists on a microscopic scale, like bacteria, but not macroevolution like primates
brobeans99
nope it's both
larrylobster
I looked it up, you're right. They should definitely be a bit louder in support of it
TrunkMonkey512
oh, you mean the "THEORY" of evolution??? oh wait, you just cant read. got it
HeeelllloooooooMurse
lol induction fallacy
wBRITTm
You can never prove God doesn't exist.
Brobrocop
That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence - Christopher Hitchens
UrbanProtocol
More likely than proving he DOES exist. Yeah I went there!
CitizenDickbag
2/2 He has previously made the inverse question to non-believers, this is just inverting his own inane logic.
CitizenDickbag
Missing the point. Comfort is a really dumb Creationist who is also a mocking asshole of people who don't share his beliefs. 1/2
itsallup
You could possibly disprove the book his God is based upon, which completely reshapes this God if it does exist (and hides for some reason)
DescipleOfCthulu
You can prove some gods don't exist because the way they are defined makes them logically impossible.
DescipleOfCthulu
For example, if you define a god to be perfect (meaning it needs nothing) and then claim it needs you to worship it, then that is illogical.
orp0piru
If a god is defined as omnipotent, then it can create a rock they can't lift. Does this mean that no true god is omnipotent?
DescipleOfCthulu
I don't like that argument, too many people pull out the trinity and try to say that one part wouldn't be able to move it but another could.
DescipleOfCthulu
So i prefer to make morality arguments, because religion is often based on emotion it strikes a stronger chord.
orp0piru
You can never prove Russel's teapot doesn't exist.
TheChinamanIsNotTheIssue
False. There can never be *evidence* of a thing's non-existence, but non-existence can still be deduced.
lx45803
God cannot be proven not to exist, by definition. If he doesn't want to be observed by science, he wont be. He is a magical being who (1/2)
TheChinamanIsNotTheIssue
Naturally that depends upon the definition. There are several common definitions of God that allow & even require proof of non-existence.
lx45803
can change the very nature of the universe to avoid being detected. It's game over from the start. (2/2)
Longtimewatcherfirsttimewritingblahblahblahblah
Actually as the Bible defines God, if you can prove that a god exists but does not conform to those details you can prrove God does not
Graphically
The hypothetical question is that you're living in a world where SOMEHOW they managed to prove his non-existence. Would you like a
Graphically
a hypothetical explanation? Fine. Someone went back in time and talked to all the people that have been responsible for writing the bible
Graphically
which your definition of god is based upon, and it turns out that the entire bible was just a bunch of childrens story books frankensteined
Graphically
together, replacing the the main characters name with the word "god". And then given to the hands of sinners to be rewritten and then
Graphically
a robot with a random word generator to stick holy-sounding words in the bible, and then filtered out having a dog sniff the pages theyve
WickedSteak
You can never prove god does exist.
GDAWilson
I can never prove that Mithras doesn't exist. That fact still doesn't make it particularly likely.
tarataqa
You can never prove that I don't exist either.
AngryCabbage
Is there a reason to particularly mock this guy? All I see is a man saying he feels his faith would remain strong. If he's not a dick, (1/2)
crazyhindu
he's a huuuuuge dick.
FinishedWithAllOfYou
Because apparently he is a dick and also this was posted on r/atheism. it's a circle jerk of religion bashing there
Sakoura
That's is exactly what i thought too! But it seems he is a jerk...but i don't know him :S (sorry i'm quite ignorant on some stuff sometimes)
AngryCabbage
Yeah, I looked him up on facebook a little while later and saw some really questionable commentary from the man. u.u
AngryCabbage
I see no reason to mock his faith. (2/2)
CallMeInV
Faith -' To believe something without evidence, or despite evidence to the contrary'. This is intellectual dishonesty and should be stopped.
OzaiR2k
He IS a dick. A huuuuuge dick. I've seen him on plenty of podcasts/interviews and all he does is make fun of the big bang theory, etc.
Cartina
Well, BBT isnt the best TV series. I can understand him.
wordsthatmakequestions
My upvotes. Take all of them.
VeryBritishGentleman
Well he did call a banana "The atheists nightmare" without researching why it looks the way it does. Surely a little poke can be made?
AngryCabbage
o.O What the... wow. I'm not sure I even want to see the src on that, I feel like it would ruin the magic of my bewilderment.
VeryBritishGentleman
Ray, Kent + Eric hovind, Buddy Davis, answers in genesis, will pull any wild shit and lie to get people believe them in a young earth.
Ocobthaigh
Have you seen the rest of his shit? He's a huge dick, he's an idiot, and I laugh every time.
AngryCabbage
Just got curious enough to check him out and found a lovely little gem that made my skin crawl... (1/3)
AngryCabbage
"That which is considered by those who are anti-God to be hateful threats of torture, are loving warnings of justice." ... (2/3)
AngryCabbage
I'm wondering if Westboro lost someone on one of their "field trips"... /facepalm (3/3)
MyOwnHero
Jesus, Ray. LISTEN.
Powatanner
"(This is) Jesus, Ray. LISTEN."
Aaaargh
Let the man be. What's wrong with praying to a non-existent god? Happens all the time in religions across the universe.
baikinmon
Actually, he did. He's saying that even if god didn't exist, he would still exist to Ray.
Ocobthaigh
What he's saying is that he's deluded.
baikinmon
Yep.
Agouti
Exactly. Proof that god doesn't exist wouldn't change religion at all (the definition of belief and all that).
QWTFODDBALL
So as opposed to believing in something that you think exists, instead you would believe in something that provably does not. Seems legit.
baikinmon
You? As Grampa Simpson said, "I ain't fer it, I'm agin' it!"
QWTFODDBALL
Who I am addressing is unimportant. You, him, whatever. Theres enough religious people to spray and pray.
VeryBritishGentleman
It is hard to listen when this is going round and round in your head
that evil atheists nightmare.
CallMeInV
NO! PUT THAT AWAY, DON'T SHOW ME THAT!
VeryBritishGentleman
Perfect atheist repellent as you can see, almost as good at disproving evolution as peanut butter.
baikinmon
For anyone not familiar with the reference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXfAduDQpn0
baikinmon
VeryBritishGentleman
Did you mean trifle? Also I'm sure someone has already claimed that by now, they are clutching at straws.
MrRoryPond
I would say God isn't about proof. He's about a feeling. Telling me there is no God is like me telling you you don't like ketchup.
MetaphoricalFox
Salute!
DetectiveJohnKimball
which is what makes religion utter bullshit
QWTFODDBALL
Well thats a pathetic cop out but you know what? Banana man couldn't even come up with that much.
idontunderstandfishingmetaphors
This is the most perfect thing I've ever heard.
CitizenDickbag
People routinely feel stuff that isn't actually real. Positing the existence of a God is a falsifiable proposition.
Napayshni
I don't like ketchup.
Funks132
Heroin is also about a feeling. So is masturbation.
MrRoryPond
Are you saying masturbation is bad? Or that God is?
RedError
God ok, but there is all that religion thing related to it...
FindYourChillMate
the stupid....its too powerful...
weesmithy
Yeah, I mean, it's called 'faith' for a reason. I'm completely non-religious, but questions like these are just silly.
lyinginbedmon
Yes, because I can test if someone doesn't like ketchup and produce evidence to support the claim.
MrRoryPond
You can go based on what they tell you. People lie. Belief doesn't.
lyinginbedmon
The brain does not lie either. Neurochemistry.
poorskull
Problem being that the other 5 billion religious people on the planet claims that faith equals proof.
MrRoryPond
Don't hate the majority because of the minority. But as a religion, yes, most believe all must be the same or none will be saved.
xxxDominusxxx
Basically what you're saying is that because the concept of God is important to you it is exempt from the burden of proof. Awful attitude.
CallMeInV
http://www.cyclonefanatic.com/forum/attachments/football/14616d1347300332-knott-named-big-12-defensive-player-week-applause.gif
EmilyBronte
Why? "Just because it's all in your head why should that mean it's not real" -Dumbledore Some people believe because they want to. so what
xxxDominusxxx
You can believe you have won the lottery until you're blue in the face. Still doesn't make it so.
EmilyBronte
Belief doesn't make it true but if it makes me happier and doesn't hurt anyone to believe that I have won the lottery then why shouldn't I?
xxxDominusxxx
No problem with that. As long as you don't go around telling others how to play the lottery and lobbying Gov to teach it in economics class.