In a just world, being an enemy of humanity would be suicidal, and they would be TERRIFIED to reveal themselves as such to anyone. Instead, they're not afraid in the slightest, and I'm an outlier, for wanting them to be.
I have become fully convinced that Conservatism as a political movement or set of ideals is utterly and entirely without merit. Its core tenets in practice are about exploiting the vulnerable for self enrichment. I've been alive for 41 orbits around our sun and have yet to be introduced to a conservative idea that wasn't somehow to the benefit of those already with power or those already with wealth at everyone else's expense.
/gallery/why-conservatives-get-to-cheat-bBmbR8z The Left organized around Fairness, they cannot cheat or they lose cohesion. The Right is organized around Loyalty, they can cheat, because bending the rules for their team makes their group bond tighter and stronger.
Imma call horse shit and say we can absolutely cheat to beat the Conservatives, after all, we're trying to make their lives better also, but they can't say the same for us.
I think you're ignoring the statement. The idea is that Dems/liberals can't cheat since it would appear to violate their message of "fairness". While YOU may not care, many others would and it would result in them losing followers.
On the flip side, goo aren't bound by these restrictions (cheating, stealing, lying, etc) as long as it's "for their team"
I'm not ignoring the statement. Anyone who thinks the Dems should handicap themselves out of fairness when the GOP blatantly cheat and would stop supporting the Dems if they didn't intentionally martyr themselves, is not support we should want. It's about achieving the policies. If you think it's about team sports or whatever bullshit, people die when the GOP are in power. We should do what it takes to prevent that, perceptions be damned.
All of us can tell you've missed the point. You keep on shouting "nuh-uh!" And arguing for conservative tactics for leftists. It won't work because of what the group bonds over. It's not a matter of perception. It's a matter of the ethics that draw the groups together. Leftists can't do authoritarian shit without alienating their own base, triggering fights over fairmess. The GOP can, because authoritarian shit makes gop voters smile and reassert their fealty to king daddy.
Is NASA a Nazi organization? I ask this because after WWII NASA hired Nazi Rocket Scientists. Did they do that because they secretly harbored nazi sympathies? No. They hired them because they had the experience and drive to put a goddamn rocket into space and later a man on the moon. It isn't compromising your morals if the outcome is that you achieve the goal that your morals established in the first place. Achieving peace and prosperity isn't cheapened if you had to get your hands dirty to >
make it happen. Any gardener will tell you that if you want to see some big blooming plants you have to stick your hands in shit first. And any good soldier will tell you that sometimes you have to damn yourself to achieve heaven for those you care about. Because the enemy isn't going to let you remain squeaky clean.
I'm saying we can and should cheat when the conservatives do. The idea we're supposed to be above that is an intentional shackle and near electoral suicide, especially since if we governed the way we're supposed to govern, by working for the people, then we wouldn't have any trouble beating the right normally.
What you (and I) don't have are microphones, speakers, and the mass media broadcasting our words to the world. There is a small group of loud people who control and dominate the narrative.
My voice naturally projects, but that doesn't ensure that people are listening and it doesn't translate to the written word. I couldn't speak or write like Trump if I tried.
Yes, but it's precisely what makes him *heard* by a large swath of people who reject what is said by anyone more competent. He speaks to idiots and is heard in a way that I could not with any amount of effort. I'm envious of that in a fashion.
Maverickaura
Way ahead of all of yall on that last point. I cut Maga fucks off before the 2016 election was even over.
DWolf
I'd add to that: label the Heritage Foundation a terrorist group.
Seriously, whenever you refer to them in conversation or online, do so as "the terrorist group known as The Heritage Foundation...
orp0piru
fractalsphere
When have conservatives ever been on the correct side of history
YuffieK
Conservative response: :
NonstopRampage
In a just world, being an enemy of humanity would be suicidal, and they would be TERRIFIED to reveal themselves as such to anyone. Instead, they're not afraid in the slightest, and I'm an outlier, for wanting them to be.
Rangar
Republicans have always had the mindset of burning society to the ground to rule over a pile of ashes.
sashasdad2
Conservatism is a mental illness and needs to be treated as such.
clonedeeznuts
The cuntservarive mindset breeds terrorists. Whether Christian or Muslim. Full stop.
CPTBRUMBL3Z
I have become fully convinced that Conservatism as a political movement or set of ideals is utterly and entirely without merit. Its core tenets in practice are about exploiting the vulnerable for self enrichment. I've been alive for 41 orbits around our sun and have yet to be introduced to a conservative idea that wasn't somehow to the benefit of those already with power or those already with wealth at everyone else's expense.
Osiricus
Well, I don't speak to my mother anymore because she chose to be MAGA despite an overwhelming amount of evidence against joining a cult.
ThatGuyFromJustSouthOfTheMiddleOfNowhere
whereismymind86
They want to be feudal lords and seem to have forgotten how many feudal lords retired to spend their winter years as a rotting head on a pike
Grapeape2000
There are two kinds of Conservatives: con artists and the people who have been conned
YouCanCallMeAnything
I got arrested for shouting what you should do to Republicans when you see them.
TheDefective
/gallery/why-conservatives-get-to-cheat-bBmbR8z The Left organized around Fairness, they cannot cheat or they lose cohesion. The Right is organized around Loyalty, they can cheat, because bending the rules for their team makes their group bond tighter and stronger.
urusername2
well said!
CyberHexx
Imma call horse shit and say we can absolutely cheat to beat the Conservatives, after all, we're trying to make their lives better also, but they can't say the same for us.
MCNewYorkLives
I think you're ignoring the statement. The idea is that Dems/liberals can't cheat since it would appear to violate their message of "fairness". While YOU may not care, many others would and it would result in them losing followers.
On the flip side, goo aren't bound by these restrictions (cheating, stealing, lying, etc) as long as it's "for their team"
CyberHexx
I'm not ignoring the statement. Anyone who thinks the Dems should handicap themselves out of fairness when the GOP blatantly cheat and would stop supporting the Dems if they didn't intentionally martyr themselves, is not support we should want. It's about achieving the policies. If you think it's about team sports or whatever bullshit, people die when the GOP are in power. We should do what it takes to prevent that, perceptions be damned.
TheDefective
All of us can tell you've missed the point. You keep on shouting "nuh-uh!" And arguing for conservative tactics for leftists. It won't work because of what the group bonds over. It's not a matter of perception. It's a matter of the ethics that draw the groups together. Leftists can't do authoritarian shit without alienating their own base, triggering fights over fairmess. The GOP can, because authoritarian shit makes gop voters smile and reassert their fealty to king daddy.
whereismymind86
The point is, betraying our values hurts us in a way that it doesn’t hurt them. We can do it, but the consequences are more severe.
We can and should bend the rules to force some of our ideas in place though, as, once we do, the positive results will sell themselves
CyberHexx
Is NASA a Nazi organization? I ask this because after WWII NASA hired Nazi Rocket Scientists. Did they do that because they secretly harbored nazi sympathies? No. They hired them because they had the experience and drive to put a goddamn rocket into space and later a man on the moon. It isn't compromising your morals if the outcome is that you achieve the goal that your morals established in the first place. Achieving peace and prosperity isn't cheapened if you had to get your hands dirty to >
CyberHexx
make it happen. Any gardener will tell you that if you want to see some big blooming plants you have to stick your hands in shit first. And any good soldier will tell you that sometimes you have to damn yourself to achieve heaven for those you care about. Because the enemy isn't going to let you remain squeaky clean.
TheDefective
Did you review the body of evidence before calling bullshit? Because I submitted a significant body of evidence.
CyberHexx
I'm saying we can and should cheat when the conservatives do. The idea we're supposed to be above that is an intentional shackle and near electoral suicide, especially since if we governed the way we're supposed to govern, by working for the people, then we wouldn't have any trouble beating the right normally.
TheDefective
You realize you made a fairness argument right?
CyberHexx
And? We should be striving for fairness.
VulcanTourist
I've been saying this for some time. I have no voice, though.
IdahoGardener
You have a voice.
What you (and I) don't have are microphones, speakers, and the mass media broadcasting our words to the world. There is a small group of loud people who control and dominate the narrative.
Sebastopol140
We all have a voice, sometimes just not a very loud one.
ThisGuyPostingThings
So you must scream, it seems.
VulcanTourist
My voice naturally projects, but that doesn't ensure that people are listening and it doesn't translate to the written word. I couldn't speak or write like Trump if I tried.
zelda633000
Honestly, why would you want to communicate like him? TFG is clearly the worst public speaker to ever have a world-wide megaphone.
VulcanTourist
Yes, but it's precisely what makes him *heard* by a large swath of people who reject what is said by anyone more competent. He speaks to idiots and is heard in a way that I could not with any amount of effort. I'm envious of that in a fashion.