Apr 18, 2022 5:40 PM
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CoarseAndSalty
Our freight costs have trippled this year before this mess, this will be the death of a lot of very stable businesses in America.
OnyxTurret
A global pandemic causes global problems? Go figure.
jamiesmeatyskinsock
FAT & Thin AMERICANS are complaining about $4.50 a gallon ? In the Rest of the World it's double that price & even a bit more !!!
Sqeezytzatziki
https://www.newsweek.com/mitch-mcconnells-wife-elaine-chao-abused-office-help-family-firm-china-business-watchdog-found-1573653?amp=1
djangojazz
I blame Biden for it and also because it's raining today. It never rained when Trump was president. Sincerely a Republican. /s
infinitynull667
The US have the lowest subsidised gas prices in the world but still they complain. "but we deserve it!"
Like2Fox
*markers on map not to scale
AdrianMole
Damn I so hoped they would be.
Grillparzer
But if they can figure out how to it, Republicans will still blame him.
falklandislands
Most of those are fishing vessels though.
MattyMakes
So what youre sayin is the Deep State is So powerful theyve gotten ports across the world to shut down, just to drive up the price of US Gas
SergeiBoobtitsky
No, you don't understand. Biden should have done more while Trump was in office so this could have been avoided. Fucking Biden. /s
PDXDragon
Maybe this wouldn't be a problem if production was distributed across Western democracies. China's a bigger threat than Russia.
stiklikegiant
Seems like... Shanghai is shanghaied with junks full of junk!
rossimus
Yes but what you're describing is complicated nuance and American voters have no time for such things when pithy soundbites will do.
ALG0RIDDUM
you're still playing covid ?
gonetothebirds
so make everything in China...How's that working for you
PhilFromAccounting
How many people do you think ever choose a more expensive option to purchase because it wasn't made in China? Some of this is on us.
sydneygirl
just had this argument with a friend of a friend who was complaining about gas prices in the USA which was about the same as ours in AUS...
Metlahaed
That’s too many boats. This worlds future is so fucked.
lawideas
Interesting how the Russians invading Ukraine in February caused inflation numbers in January to be astronomically high.
ardenwalker84
OMG the impact that must have on the ocean life in that area is overwhelming to think about
deathpeppers
That's just liberal bs /s
itsjustplaid
If people blaming Biden for gas prices were capable of thinking instead of thinking everything is Biden's fault, I'm sure they'd agree.
But but, then there wouldn't be people blaming Biden.
motoalchemist
time to slay all the giants
trippingthelightfantastic
d65vid
Not with that attitude it isn't!
NapoleonTrousersnakeBonaparte
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Fuckididntwantausername
WE HATE HIM. But I don't see Beto winning after 2 losses and his 2a stance, and I'm a bleeding❤️ liberal. I just wish we had better.
If you don't like Beto maybe you can try to vote your AG out.
IDriveAMinivan
You mean felony indicted TX AG Ken Paxton who is still awaiting trial for felony charges?!?!? ?
alrightalrightalrightpartyatthemoontower
Absolutely. Beto needs to get teacher support and is not doing so. It’s a huge bloc. But maybe AG can go.
Lovingimpaler
Abbott is a wheelie horrible excuse for a person.
I meant to include this with the original post.
SkamanSam
Could someone help me find that information in that report?
GiantMoron
Why would Biden do this to America
tonchandailvert
Google tells me it's 7.128 for Canada
ImHereForExplicitContent
Is that because we're using a long straw to steal it from the US, cartoon-style?
Unholytrashpanda
While it's a good point, Occupy D is a trash source and should be avoided like the plague. Heavily biased and a lot of misleading content
Soberyn
It is almost $7 here in SoCal. Thankfully I only own motorcycles.
SP4x
$10.64 per gallon in my neck of woods (~£1.80 per litre, £8.18 per gallon, UK)
usingYourMomAsAHat
haha is THAT the gas prices republicans currently are complaining about? Oh my lol
supraman2turbo
Yeah but cheap is oil is why we keep Texas and Alaska around and 4 bucks a gallon aint cheap to us
RideTheStimutacs
I'd love to be able to pay $1.17/liter right now. Maybe I should cross the US border for gas at this point.
ImtheYeti
3.71 cents in Connecticut whooooo
Iatesomecoffeecups
Can we get a comparison to what the prices were before? Otherwise this doesnt mean as much
khora
52% of the price in Sweden is tax, so it could easily be lower.
hardytardigrade
Tax is part of the price in all those countries, I am guessing. Definitely for the US.
ShiftingPattern
Is that a 52% tax rate (meaning ~34% of the price is tax) or is it really a >100% tax rate so that more than half the final cost is tax?
Rem1976
Netherlands: The excise duties on fuels are determined by the Dutch government. The excise duty on petrol is currently 45.6% of the price.
IrrationalNumber
Tax isn't something that vanishes into the air. Especially in the Nordic countries.
TheJuiceLoosener
Right. Everyone focuses on taxes, but where the money goes is fully half the picture. Stupid to ever talk about one w/o the other
No, but you could question why the government should make more money just because Russia invaded Ukraine.
bizzybanana
In the states a lot of the gas tax is a fixed cost per gal, not percentage, so gas price going up doesn’t increase tax revenue anyways.
jobbybob
NZ removed some of its tax for 3 months on fuel to counteract the rise, it only got us down to $7.20/gal
The government isn't turning a profit and sneaking away with pockets full of cash. Unlike the oil companies.
No, the government is likely doing worse overall, since higher gas prices lowers productivity and GDP.
JustDriftingAboutTheInterWebs
"But I FEEL like it's his fault cause i don't like him, and that's all I need"
Goosexi
Must be great to simplify every world issue to be one single persons fault. Like really really simple.
CaptainPawfulFox
"I'm sorry about your micropenis. It must be really difficult for you and your sister."
Mostlydeadpool
"Because I can't be bothered to think objectively and do research. ALSO I'm SPECIAL and so everything I feel is right should be true."
JasonThorn
My mother after she was wrong about something involving Obama, "...Well, he's guilty of SOMETHING!!" Zero political credibility after that.
ScienceIsNotALiberalConspiracy
Without the fishing/passenger/pleasure boats. Only tankers and cargo. Marine Traffic dot com, btw.
ProfessorChaos
Thanks. Idk what normal traffic would look like, but that still seems like a lot.
Red = tanker, Green = cargo
CraftyGiant
and all burning bunker oil to stay in position.
psmith00
That's still a lotta boats, Tony.
LuLuPennyAndOdium44
Kevo1991
Still a mess ?
DaveSamsonite
That fleet of ships is 90 miles across, it’s not passenger or pleasure boats. I lived in Shanghai, it’s an industrial port.
kozmo403
Record gas prices most anywhere is a direct result of Big Oil lining their pockets. Supply chain is an issue, but lets not give those >>
Iblamemyparentstoo
Same with inflation
damogen
It's just supply and demand. When supply goes down, prices go up until demand has decreased to match the supply.
Ploty
And when you create scarcity, demands and prices fly. Your perception of "the market" is too simple my friend
Sure, but as the post clearly illustrate the current issue is not artificially created.
Lostchild12
Pretty much all major companies and billionaires have made a killing since covid started.
dohcohv
No, manufacturers and retail have, service sector has taken a beating. We stayed home and spent money on other shit than eating out.
I'm going by the reported growth in profits that they have published. Yes many businesses have suffered. No work, no, money as you said.
>> fuckstick oligarchs and CEOs any slack. They're absolutely the main cause of insane prices at the pump.
pr3viso
Coz Oil is sold at international prices. Kinda like the British sold Irish potatoes overseas while starving the Irish.
ThaWhiteRanger
BUT HUNTERS LAPTOP!
hahaha, "butt hunters"
SuperIncoherentRantingMan
You talking about Tucker's new show?
TriskaidekaFeelYa
Nonsense. If it were only greed, you'd need to explain what caused the spike in greed.
Bhargo
what spike? its been an ever increasing slope since Reagan.
Does greed need a reason? Oil companies posted record profits DURING A PANDEMIC. The supply chain isn't helping, but it's not "the reason"
If it were greed only, why would they suddenly get MORE greedy. Clearly, there is either a new constraint or a constraint removed.
Did I say it was the only thing? No. The qualifier "mostly" was used. I do agree the supply chain isn't helping, but greed is the BIG ONE.
Dude. Unless they just recently got MORE greedy, greed explains NONE of the CHANGE. If course they are greedy bastards. Always have been.
CoarseAndSalty
Our freight costs have trippled this year before this mess, this will be the death of a lot of very stable businesses in America.
OnyxTurret
A global pandemic causes global problems? Go figure.
jamiesmeatyskinsock
FAT & Thin AMERICANS are complaining about $4.50 a gallon ? In the Rest of the World it's double that price & even a bit more !!!
Sqeezytzatziki
https://www.newsweek.com/mitch-mcconnells-wife-elaine-chao-abused-office-help-family-firm-china-business-watchdog-found-1573653?amp=1
djangojazz
I blame Biden for it and also because it's raining today. It never rained when Trump was president. Sincerely a Republican. /s
infinitynull667
The US have the lowest subsidised gas prices in the world but still they complain. "but we deserve it!"
Like2Fox
*markers on map not to scale
AdrianMole
Damn I so hoped they would be.
Grillparzer
But if they can figure out how to it, Republicans will still blame him.
falklandislands
Most of those are fishing vessels though.
MattyMakes
So what youre sayin is the Deep State is So powerful theyve gotten ports across the world to shut down, just to drive up the price of US Gas
SergeiBoobtitsky
No, you don't understand. Biden should have done more while Trump was in office so this could have been avoided. Fucking Biden. /s
PDXDragon
Maybe this wouldn't be a problem if production was distributed across Western democracies. China's a bigger threat than Russia.
stiklikegiant
Seems like... Shanghai is shanghaied with junks full of junk!
rossimus
Yes but what you're describing is complicated nuance and American voters have no time for such things when pithy soundbites will do.
ALG0RIDDUM
you're still playing covid ?
gonetothebirds
so make everything in China...How's that working for you
PhilFromAccounting
How many people do you think ever choose a more expensive option to purchase because it wasn't made in China? Some of this is on us.
sydneygirl
just had this argument with a friend of a friend who was complaining about gas prices in the USA which was about the same as ours in AUS...
Metlahaed
That’s too many boats. This worlds future is so fucked.
lawideas
Interesting how the Russians invading Ukraine in February caused inflation numbers in January to be astronomically high.
ardenwalker84
OMG the impact that must have on the ocean life in that area is overwhelming to think about
deathpeppers
That's just liberal bs /s
itsjustplaid
If people blaming Biden for gas prices were capable of thinking instead of thinking everything is Biden's fault, I'm sure they'd agree.
AdrianMole
But but, then there wouldn't be people blaming Biden.
motoalchemist
time to slay all the giants
trippingthelightfantastic
d65vid
Not with that attitude it isn't!
trippingthelightfantastic
NapoleonTrousersnakeBonaparte
Fuckididntwantausername
WE HATE HIM. But I don't see Beto winning after 2 losses and his 2a stance, and I'm a bleeding❤️ liberal. I just wish we had better.
trippingthelightfantastic
If you don't like Beto maybe you can try to vote your AG out.
IDriveAMinivan
You mean felony indicted TX AG Ken Paxton who is still awaiting trial for felony charges?!?!? ?
alrightalrightalrightpartyatthemoontower
Absolutely. Beto needs to get teacher support and is not doing so. It’s a huge bloc. But maybe AG can go.
Lovingimpaler
Abbott is a wheelie horrible excuse for a person.
BluesFish
I meant to include this with the original post.
SkamanSam
Could someone help me find that information in that report?
GiantMoron
Why would Biden do this to America
tonchandailvert
Google tells me it's 7.128 for Canada
ImHereForExplicitContent
Is that because we're using a long straw to steal it from the US, cartoon-style?
Unholytrashpanda
While it's a good point, Occupy D is a trash source and should be avoided like the plague. Heavily biased and a lot of misleading content
Soberyn
It is almost $7 here in SoCal. Thankfully I only own motorcycles.
SP4x
$10.64 per gallon in my neck of woods (~£1.80 per litre, £8.18 per gallon, UK)
usingYourMomAsAHat
haha is THAT the gas prices republicans currently are complaining about? Oh my lol
supraman2turbo
Yeah but cheap is oil is why we keep Texas and Alaska around and 4 bucks a gallon aint cheap to us
RideTheStimutacs
I'd love to be able to pay $1.17/liter right now. Maybe I should cross the US border for gas at this point.
ImtheYeti
3.71 cents in Connecticut whooooo
Iatesomecoffeecups
Can we get a comparison to what the prices were before? Otherwise this doesnt mean as much
khora
52% of the price in Sweden is tax, so it could easily be lower.
hardytardigrade
Tax is part of the price in all those countries, I am guessing. Definitely for the US.
ShiftingPattern
Is that a 52% tax rate (meaning ~34% of the price is tax) or is it really a >100% tax rate so that more than half the final cost is tax?
Rem1976
Netherlands: The excise duties on fuels are determined by the Dutch government. The excise duty on petrol is currently 45.6% of the price.
IrrationalNumber
Tax isn't something that vanishes into the air. Especially in the Nordic countries.
TheJuiceLoosener
Right. Everyone focuses on taxes, but where the money goes is fully half the picture. Stupid to ever talk about one w/o the other
khora
No, but you could question why the government should make more money just because Russia invaded Ukraine.
bizzybanana
In the states a lot of the gas tax is a fixed cost per gal, not percentage, so gas price going up doesn’t increase tax revenue anyways.
jobbybob
NZ removed some of its tax for 3 months on fuel to counteract the rise, it only got us down to $7.20/gal
hardytardigrade
The government isn't turning a profit and sneaking away with pockets full of cash. Unlike the oil companies.
khora
No, the government is likely doing worse overall, since higher gas prices lowers productivity and GDP.
JustDriftingAboutTheInterWebs
"But I FEEL like it's his fault cause i don't like him, and that's all I need"
Goosexi
Must be great to simplify every world issue to be one single persons fault. Like really really simple.
CaptainPawfulFox
"I'm sorry about your micropenis. It must be really difficult for you and your sister."
Mostlydeadpool
"Because I can't be bothered to think objectively and do research. ALSO I'm SPECIAL and so everything I feel is right should be true."
JasonThorn
My mother after she was wrong about something involving Obama, "...Well, he's guilty of SOMETHING!!" Zero political credibility after that.
ScienceIsNotALiberalConspiracy
Without the fishing/passenger/pleasure boats. Only tankers and cargo. Marine Traffic dot com, btw.
ProfessorChaos
Thanks. Idk what normal traffic would look like, but that still seems like a lot.
ScienceIsNotALiberalConspiracy
Red = tanker, Green = cargo
CraftyGiant
and all burning bunker oil to stay in position.
psmith00
That's still a lotta boats, Tony.
LuLuPennyAndOdium44
Kevo1991
Still a mess ?
DaveSamsonite
That fleet of ships is 90 miles across, it’s not passenger or pleasure boats. I lived in Shanghai, it’s an industrial port.
kozmo403
Record gas prices most anywhere is a direct result of Big Oil lining their pockets. Supply chain is an issue, but lets not give those >>
Iblamemyparentstoo
Same with inflation
damogen
It's just supply and demand. When supply goes down, prices go up until demand has decreased to match the supply.
Ploty
And when you create scarcity, demands and prices fly. Your perception of "the market" is too simple my friend
damogen
Sure, but as the post clearly illustrate the current issue is not artificially created.
Lostchild12
Pretty much all major companies and billionaires have made a killing since covid started.
dohcohv
No, manufacturers and retail have, service sector has taken a beating. We stayed home and spent money on other shit than eating out.
Lostchild12
I'm going by the reported growth in profits that they have published. Yes many businesses have suffered. No work, no, money as you said.
kozmo403
>> fuckstick oligarchs and CEOs any slack. They're absolutely the main cause of insane prices at the pump.
pr3viso
Coz Oil is sold at international prices. Kinda like the British sold Irish potatoes overseas while starving the Irish.
ThaWhiteRanger
BUT HUNTERS LAPTOP!
SergeiBoobtitsky
hahaha, "butt hunters"
SuperIncoherentRantingMan
You talking about Tucker's new show?
TriskaidekaFeelYa
Nonsense. If it were only greed, you'd need to explain what caused the spike in greed.
Bhargo
what spike? its been an ever increasing slope since Reagan.
kozmo403
Does greed need a reason? Oil companies posted record profits DURING A PANDEMIC. The supply chain isn't helping, but it's not "the reason"
TriskaidekaFeelYa
If it were greed only, why would they suddenly get MORE greedy. Clearly, there is either a new constraint or a constraint removed.
kozmo403
Did I say it was the only thing? No. The qualifier "mostly" was used. I do agree the supply chain isn't helping, but greed is the BIG ONE.
TriskaidekaFeelYa
Dude. Unless they just recently got MORE greedy, greed explains NONE of the CHANGE. If course they are greedy bastards. Always have been.