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MukVanLam
College: "you're in debt"
DidgeryDrew
As a high school teacher, anyone who thinks this is accurate is really, REALLY wrong.
HotdogNotHotdog
Probs because your professors were mostly grad students who really dgaf.
pandro
grad students are under scrutiny, can get fired, and were the best teachers i had. professors have tenure, anyone complains nithing changes.
regs93
Last one always kills me
ThePunishersVengefulBrother
Your college teachers sucked.
PossiblyJewish
Right? I think I had classes cancelled a handful of times in my 4 years, mostly because it was a blizzard and the school didn't close.
transjeander
clearly not an engineering student
whenyougettotheendstop
The difference between you can get fired and tenure.
Gamma31415
Both public school teachers and college professors get tenure though?
steampunkmerlin
The hardass teach part reminds me of this bitch of a sub we had she literally kicked out students for calling her mrs. instead of dr.
steampunkmerlin
she didnt try to have any knowledge on the subjects just did the handouts and was solely rude to students and totally useless beside rolecal
steampunkmerlin
i remember her literally telling students not to ask her questions. And making the students that had special allotments like computer use
steampunkmerlin
on assignments that are hand written required not use them. Eventually the school quit giving her sub jobs
wildcatfan4life
You should make a note that these college professors are either grade students who never taught before or are tenured and don't give a f**k.
TairaMai
High School Teacher: "Don't stare out the window!" College Prof: "Class is outside today."
Teaflings
High School: Asking politely for the bathroom prepares you for adulthood. College Prof: dont interrupt; just go; i dont know who you are
kbobsky
In highschool it's mostly the responsibility of the teacher to drag you through education. College, not so much
LegendaryGrumpyCat
Agreed. Big diff between having to be there and paying to be there. One reason why college should not be free. Cheaper yes, not free.
Ulthirm
Im starting to look forward to college more and more compared to my current school.
MukVanLam
High School: "free". College: "You're in debt".
1414145691
I don't understand because didn't the teachers go to college, so wouldn't they already know what it's like?
PossiblyJewish
As a teacher, it's a tactic to create buy-in. Give students a reason to buy in and they will. Their next step is important to them. 1/2
PossiblyJewish
Knowing what to expect can help students want to achieve higher, where other things might not have the same effect on them. 2/2
iTztheKaiser
HS: I have a spouse. That's all you need to know. COLLEGE: My wife left me and my son doesn't love me. Let me show you their facebook
swordlessmimetown22
As a college professor, I confirm these are true.
Erhmernder
As a nursing student......
wtfIm
Sounds like someone went to a bad liberal arts college
rollercostarican
My liberal arts classes only allowed 2 absences per semester, my science and math classes i only had to show up for the midterm and final.
robotzombies
Haha! Something something snowflakes something something safe spaces, amiright?
pla303
Lol I went to Berkeley and UCLA and majored in astrophysics. Profs are so much more approachable when they're not trying to be hardasses
wtfIm
Your post gives the impression that college professors aren’t teaching and messing around in class.
pla303
They kicked out asses in class, but they kept it real
girlpants
I'm almost positive that a large part of why I got into my uni was because my interviewer and future lecturer was also called Pete.
UseFakeInternetPointsToBuyRealSelfEsteem
College has turned into a bullshit halfway house for when you realize that you were king shit in high school but now you're fucking nobody.
ThePunishersVengefulBrother
I don't think this is a new trend...
YouCheckedTheUsernameHaveACookie
Depends. I actually like the field I'm going into and it really does require a college education
TheLetterD
I expected more out of my professors since I was paying for my education. Professors like these are ripping their students off.
elimasterofall
High school teachers: you can't know my political views. College professors: fuck trump
CatSiddhartha
That's a legal issue. Not a teacher issue.
TheTMThatDecidesTheLanguageOfLanguagesThatAreDecidable
I had a logic professor who named an entire logical fallacy after Bush.
SexualConsent
TBH, my High School teachers are also making fun/insulting Trump all the time
elimasterofall
Probably because it's trump ands he's just such a horrible person
wigglypony
I don't think he's malevolent. I think he isn't bright, but not evil
SexualConsent
What wigglypony said
NihonJinLover
HS: we can’t discuss religion here. Prof: there are over 300 planets known to man and you think it was all created so you could have life 1
NihonJinLover
On this one? Come on people, you’re in college now.
DrYoloMcSwagmasterIIIEsq
I'm not religious at all, but that's a shit argument.
NihonJinLover
It seems highly unlikely to me that the entire universe was created so we could have life on earth.I was already an atheist before his class
DrYoloMcSwagmasterIIIEsq
I'm also an atheist, but its just a very weak argument that could be defeated quite easily.
AVoiceOfReason
Because "Fuck Trump" would really get anyone in college in trouble.
pandro
College professors don't have angry parents & PTA looking over their shoulder. Adults 18+ are supposed to resist brainwashing by authority.
Threewisemen
College Prof: "Your grade will be based off of 3 tests. 1/3 of you will quit or won't be able to pass at the end of the first test."
KarlMoebius
Prof: (to a class of 45) "I don't hand out A's" First test: (54% class average) "I don't curve" After final: "Five people passed the class."
cynicalteacher
They are still children in High School. That dramatically changes the dynamic in terms of both student maturity and fear of being fired.
mysticboy247
HS Teacher: They won't tolerate you on your phones College Teacher: You fail, I get paid, /shrug
KarlMoebius
While there is apathy among the pure research profs, there's a lot of "turn that shit off or get out of my class."
mysticboy247
I guess that would happen at the higher level classes, where the professors are more passionate. Either way you shouldn't really be on one
sprbwlshuffler
High School: College Profs don't care who you are or about your grades. College Prof: Please come to office hours with all your questions.
Chity
High schools telling me that fucked me up. I got to college, didn't want to waste the teachers time.
KarlMoebius
Prof: My office hours are for one hour, one day a week.
Moetorious
Profs don't care, but are willing to help if you ask. But you actually have to go out of your way to get help. That's what I tell my kids.
thanatos777
They are so lonely.
hayatheart
No one ever comes to my office hours... ever.
vegweg
At least at my college profs were required to hold office hours. If they didn't have any visitors they were just stuck in their office alone
KirchoffsVoltageLaw
My engineering advisor just texts his son and browses the internet, then goes home at 2pm. Perks of nuclear engineering degree I guess.
sixeyedcat
'Stuck' getting a bunch of other work done.
vegweg
There's only so much work to do. I had a leadership position in a group and had to hold office hours. I ran out of stuff to do fairly often.
BeckyLookAtHerButt
Good thing you've got Imgur!
AlkeneThiol
Weren't you in grad school? Read papers or something.
pyrrhlis
Look at memes
vegweg
If you're the kind of person that can be productive all the time then props to you. I definitely can't do that.
JaWannaKnow
One of my professors, helped me on classwork for a class he wasn't teaching, best teacher I ever had
gottofu
Most don't. Sure if you come in with questions most college professor will be happy to answer them like high school ones.
gottofu
None of my gave a damn if I or anyone else never bother to take advantage of those office hours and failed due to lack of effort.
gottofu
As a high school teacher though, we would get trouble from adminstration if we didn't constantly give students 2/3rd chances and
gottofu
have contact logs of parents. Both places want you to succeed, in college the weight is on the student to put forth the effort.
Mx7733
(high) School teachers. You HAVE to be here, thus so do I. Prof (mostly) "Wow, you want to learn waht I know. Cool, lets have some fun"
KitKateC
This is so accurate
aShogunNamedMarcus
HS teachers: Don't tell anyone we fucked, I'll go to jail. College Prof: That was some good sex, want to do dinner next week?
petekron
I'm pretty sure that's because everyone on high school is under age except for senior years.
BuzzKiIlington
Yeah thats generally frowned upon
theyregooddogsbrant
Friends?
Beepity
I know, seriously. Dinner? They've got all the dinner I need between their legs.
canibFrank
Hey - I taught at a small college on the East Coast. We were NOT allowed to fuck our current students. Had to wait 'til next semester.
canibFrank
The general counsel of the college literally referred to it as the "wait 'til next semester policy."
Plasmabunny
I'm an EA in an IT program at a college in Canada. Dating students is a big no-no.
WithPride
If they are willing and there are no strings attached then why not?
DrYoloMcSwagmasterIIIEsq
Abuse of power. Its the same policy in the overwhelming majority of organizations and companies
TanithRosenbaum
Why would you want to date them? Just have sex with them. Duh. ;)
canibFrank
What weak-ass college did you go to?
liberalism101
Probably community college
EarlQuortington
In the undergrad program at my college Professors were more strict but because the grad program lets you develop a better relationship 1/2
EarlQuortington
with them, they're way more accommodating as long as you're respectful and show interest in their class. It's really nice! :) 2/2
DukeLetoofDune
'Merica
TheGreatMuha
I majored in MechE and there were no hardass professors, just people who would bother teaching the material and people who wouldn't.
BadMouthGent
For real. I can get kicked out of class for just barely looking at my phone.
LionLee2026
Clearly the only fun one that's ever existed, Frank.
canibFrank
Nobody here named Frank, Lee. Also, I did not understand your comment.
Ilikejellybeansontoast
maybe it depends on the degree/courses they are taking. If you are getting a pud degree like communications, probably gonna be way easier
swoman1023
I went to Ohio State University. Talking to a professor was something that just didn't happen. U asked TAs questions AFTER class.
DaDisser
You'll see variance from these to strict in any school. It really depends on the department. Also being lax doesn't mean easy lol 1/2
DaDisser
They could be really chill, and then test you on 90% of the things they ask you to do out of class...because they are bad teachers.
pla303
Berkeley and UCLA
getafterit
you’ve attended rigorous colleges yet the comment section: u stoopid and indoctrinated (dumb ppl don’t understand independent thinking)
getafterit
The comments here PROVE without a doubt 100% people do not understand sarcasm. Bet they’ll down vote it to prove me wrong!
TuityFrooty
UC Berkeley!! Woot woot (: hello fellow alum.
PinkandGlitter
Go Bruins!!! Also an alumni and I agree
Dangotang
Asian girls everywhere.
Meaningfulname
NotAnUberUsername
Aah okey..
Tmftw
Never heard of them
AgainstMethod
They're online colleges in the Philippines.
bontonswanson
Hahahahaha ok what
BojackTheHorsemanDontActLikeYouDontKnow
Honest question: do Berkeley profs politically indoctrinate their students or does the univ just draw politically minded students?
IDOMATH
At my school (private college in MN) it's both. Lots of liberal minded people are drawn to the school, but professors don't hide their views
StealingTheShow
Ayyyyy MN!
ajvz
Sounds like Carleton.
rugger
SMU, Gustavus, St. Olaf?
seriousbutthole
Must be Macalaster!
ajvz
Or any other liberal arts in MN
AgainstMethod
1- Lefty politics is just part of the social scene outside of classes. There are some political classes w/ opinionated professors, but
AgainstMethod
2- it's transparent and on the level. It's not like a kid goes from moderate to masked-in-the-streets because of course material.
BojackTheHorsemanDontActLikeYouDontKnow
Thanks! I lived in SF for a decade and it's tough to ask that question in person without it turning into a huge argument
PuhTater
That explains it
ChuckNorrisAteMySock
Well SOMEBODY went to Yale...
SexualConsent
pla303
I mean, don't get me wrong, classes were hard as fuck, but the professors weren't trying to be hardasses
Itchy73
Exactly. The profs will let you fuck yourself if you want to aha.
doctorbees
When the content is enough to kill students alone, there's no need to add to it.
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Kat1898
You should know better than post something true on imgur
skittlessnot
That's a nice bandwagon you got there.
DonteHaversham
ImHereToExplainTheJoke
I went to Michigan and most of my professors were in a consistent state of “IDGAF, I just do this so they’ll fund my research.”
DoubleChungTransplant
I'm sorry. Would have been nice to have professors care about teaching undergrad
DetectiveSloth
And constantly self promoting their writing during class.
doctorbees
Ah, that must be pre-tenure. After tenure: "Idgaf here's a slideshow full of memes."
YamatoIouko
Welcome to the physics departmetn!
darkdragonempress
In my college career I have met 1 that was a hard ass. He was a Harvard graduate and seemed like he had a bit of a chip on his shoulder. 1
darkdragonempress
Meanwhile the other 3 profs in the department were a bit intimidating but awesome guys. 2
d0o0o0d
Going to Harvard means that every time you fuck up, someone will say "YOU went to HARVARD?"
Shitposting2017
MSU Bozeman was like : oh fuck it's snowing, math can wait till spring
TransparentMan
And at U of Montana they're like "Oh shit, gotta go fuck this barnyard animal. Class is cancelled".
CommentHijacker
Yeah seriously, I go to Georgia Tech and they don't fuck around. You miss class a few times and you're fucked
annawatermelon
Truth! I graduated in ‘91!
Mdalbertson87
Community college in California, the teachers tell to show up or not, they get paid regardless
srose17
My friend is a sophomore there. He likes it a lot but he says it's hard.
CommentHijacker
I'm doing aerospace, it's unbelievably difficult. Arguably the hardest degree to get at one of the hardest colleges
holdingthephone
Probably depends on what you study, but CS is dead easy.
srose17
He's doing some kind of engineering.
holdingthephone
Not surprising. I think around 90% are Engineering. Seems to involve a bit of math. No good for me.
MilesGates
Well duh. No where in this post did it say you can miss class when you want. A canceled class isn't a missed class.
rollercostarican
my college depended on the class, surprisingly, art class allowed only 2 absences,while for science/math i only had to show up for the tests
notanimposter
For me it was music class. Miss two classes, even if you're hospitalized, and they failed you. I'm sure you could go over their head tho.
derock789
I mean it depends on the teacher as well. My music class doesn't do attendance and all the hw is just die at the end of the semester. But1/?
derock789
My English teacher doesn't take shit from anybody. You get 3 absences and no makeup work. 2/2
Wobbixx
Generally, the more fine or liberal artsy, the more they enforce attendance. In stem, you don't know the material, and you get fucked ->
IFavoriteDogsAlways
You like it there? I applied for transfer
CommentHijacker
If you can handle heavy work and want to finish with one of the most prestigious engineering degrees you can get, you'll like it.
KekMemerson
I've been there and (just my opinion) but it's not great.
ImLyingToYouGuys
What did you not lile, and if you dont mind, when did you go there?
ImLyingToYouGuys
Like*
pandro
Some state schools require attendance. If you don't want to show up, you're wasting the taxpayers $ as well as your own.
pugglesworth
Oooh I didn't know that. I always wondered why attendance mattered as long as I was passing
pandro
At private uni we "signed in" on a sheet passed around, but idk why. Not part of grade - they already got our $, lol.
FireRoastedFire
A few times?! You miss more than one day at Full Sail, "Whelp, see you next month!"
CommentHijacker
Yup, miss one day and it takes 2 weeks to catch up
ChalupaBatmac
Is it worth it? Possibly transfering there next year.
FireRoastedFire
I graduated and got a job working in my field within three months. Its tough, but worth it of you put in the effort.
CommentHijacker
Yes, 90% of students graduate with a high paying job already lined up. The other 10% are probably fine arts majors, lol
IntergalacticCinematic
I shot something there a few years back. We used the live place and the backlot for a sitcom I was working on. Pretty neat place. Mad gear
Luunatic
Community
victorthevagabond
E pluribus anus
ShiraZen
Tfw we took the same classes with the same books but I saved 5000 per semester for 2 or so years. Plus no loans required.
Veradux
TBH, even my harder classes still act like this. The profs act casual but demand the best.
ThisIsTheBestICanDo
It's because they're not there to be your babysitters. They don't care how you behave as long as you get the work done
AlmightySphincster
I think it also depends on what department you're in. I've been in engineering and biology, and bio is chill af. Engineering not so much.
leftyepee
IDK. My Mechanical Engineering classes are run by some mean ass dudes. Nuclear Engineering? The professors didn't give a fuck.
AlmightySphincster
Mechanical engineering at my school was notorious for being rough, but civil and mining were all stoners
hidingrighthere
my hardest professor came from the art department. Stuck with a professor who said: "Miss two classes, don't bother showing up anymore"
AlmightySphincster
Some professors are just dicks too. I feel like they have to prove that it's a real class by being an ass
Lfa3
Same! Students had problems with buses (the first ones would arrive at 8:10, class started at 8), teacher went instant: "If it's hard (1/2)
Lfa3
(2/2)to arrive in time, drop college, get a job and return once you can arrive in class at the right time, choose your priorities." o_O'
zahl
Purdue Calumet. This seems accurate. In fact, I had a professor named Josh that did, in fact, cancel class one day because he was tired.
LunarFlame
Purdue Lafayette. I fuckin wish.
FlameSama1
The fuck? What are the odds of running into someone else from PUC/PNW?
knowsnoevil
There are dozens of us!!
zahl
Literally dozens!
Awesoman66theCactusLord
MLA format. Used for every paper in HS, I have not used it once in half a semester of college.
meesenotmoose
Man what?! I'm only a year and half a semester into college and I've already used MLA in like half of my classes
DrYoloMcSwagmasterIIIEsq
MLA is mostly English, other fields dont use it as much
meesenotmoose
That's true, but in a couple of art history and dance theory courses I've taken I've used MLA as well, just by professors' preferences
NotWhatYouPlanted
Oh man, you have a whole half of a semester under your belt! You know all the things! -Person who has used MLA a lot in college
MinnesotaTom
Fuck MLA, Chicago rules
ForrestIndustries
I certainly use it more than APA, but that could just be my field.
ej255
6 years and 3 degrees and I've never had to use mla, that's why we study engineering and math.
swicks
Testify!
TheJudgeHasItBackwards
I never used MLA, always APA or IEEE. And I have 2 bachelors and a masters, working on a Ph.D.
Fenix04
I did MLA papers in college, but had to do APA style on three separate occasions.
SpringToMyWinter
Omg an entire 6 month’s of potentially 4+ years, and no MLA?! Yep, that proves it’s never used in college.
TheJudgeHasItBackwards
And you likely never will of you are in STEM fields, APA or IEEE is more common.
sixeyedcat
The goal is to teach you how to follow citation styles generally. MLA is as good a place to start as any.
Potentiate
In my experience, English uses MLA, Psych uses APA, Poly sci uses chicago and Philosophy says why cite they're all wrong anyway
icantbelievemynamewastaken
Depends on your field. MLA for arts and language, APA for social sciences (and some hard sciences), Turabian or Chicago for history. 1/
icantbelievemynamewastaken
ACS for chemistry, CSE for some other hard sciences.
Patches3000
Bout to finish, APA or die!
IrrelevantCaptcha
I loved MLA until I had a class that required APA. Then I used APA. Once you go APA...
lurker5000
MLA is the standard for English so expect to see it at some point in those classes. I definitely used it in college. Grad school was APA
rainballs
Criminal justice majors are forced to write their papers in APA. I haven't had an MLA paper since my year one writing course.
Awesoman66theCactusLord
To be fair, I used MLA in college english classes that I took for dual credit in HS
PossiblyJewish
You use MLA in English. You use Chicago in History. Most other things, you use APA. Source: Working on Masters & use APA more than anything
Awesoman66theCactusLord
I had to use Chicago style. I had to look up how to use that citation format
Parker8770
I used Chicago in high school and MLA in college so far
barnaclebillthesailor
Chicago all the way. Footnotes for days.
ShepskyHuskherd
I love Chicago style. Takes up page room so my 5 page essay looks like a 7 page essay without having to ramble nonsense
PossiblyJewish
You say that until you have to write a paper that's a certain length without footnotes. Paper had to be 15pg without footnotes, was 21 with.
PudgyPinkiePie
fuck is that
PossiblyJewish
Sparknotes version: Use footnotes instead of parentheticals. Much cleaner and nicer to look at, can be confusing if you're not familiar.
PudgyPinkiePie
I went to magic horse university so I'm not familiar
PossiblyJewish
Only place I've ever encountered it is in historical papers. Have BA and almost done with M.Ed, haven't used it since starting M.Ed.
PossiblyJewish
Chicago was great once I figured out how to use it. Learning how to use it coming from MLA was awful. CMS was my best friend.