You're a fool if you think this isn't a bipartisan effort. The court gives them marching orders, and the Dems will obey like good little sock puppets. You can vote for whoever you want, the updated maps won't be used. You have no power. At least not at the ballot box.
The North Carolina decision was stayed by the USSC days after it was issued. When the case was returned to the lower court, the plaintiffs (Common Cause and the NC Democratic Party) agreed to use the new maps.
If the democrats had a spine we'd have a repeat of 'The courts have rendered their decision now let them enforce it'. But this is the modern democratic party so they will wring their hands and say there is nothing they can do.
Yes. That’s why we are so infuriated. We did everything right. Then there was a huge, and highly successful misinformation campaign by MAGA to confuse the voters and get is to vote No. We made calls, wrote letters, texted, emailed… and we won. All the same information has been available except that Trump screamed “voter fraud” and our courts said ‘we can’t prove fraud that doesn’t exist, we’ll call it unconstitutional’. Of course, the red hat wearing, local yocals completely bought it.
Virginia is fucking important. DC is basically Virginia. My brothers both were working on the street that Heather was killed on in Charlottesville. I walked through Lee park every day in high school and they just took down the statue. The statue of Lewis and Clark with Sacagawea kneeling behind them is in the middle of a square, and I can say gladly that I've never heard anyone refer to it as anything but "the Sacagawea statue" but it was the capital of the confederacy, it's impo.
the speaker of the house already decided that the people of virginia don't get to decide their own fate, that only 4 white republican shit for brains do
Dumbass, you ARE the politicians! Just give up the power, its really that simple. Its probably wise before less appealing options are taken by Virginian citizens. (To the statement not poster)
Virginia law is the only state law that matters in Virginia. You can't look at North Carolina law or Ohio law and expect things to be done the same. By all means criticise these activist ahole judges; but do it right, please.
Calling out the hypocrisy and the pattern of corruption is valid criticism. If you are seriously arguing that the courts are acting in good faith, impartial or not the same side promoting the same agenda get real. YOU called them activist ahole judges, why play the game that the outcome was based on reasoning from laws instead of them basing the reasoning on the outcome they were gonna give.
Why am I certain that you haven't got a clue why the judges ruled the way they did. That all you know is that some people wouldn't give you what you wanted so they must suck.
IDK maybe being wrong about things is your kink. I'm not here to kinkshame or judge. I am curious why you called them activist ahole judges but think calling out activist ahole tendencies is wrong.
If the five potential seats from Virginia’s redistricting are the make or break point of taking the House in the midterms, they are the least of our problems.
House margin, +6 R Redistricting advantage now, +9 R Average midterm loss of House seats by the sitting President’s party since WWII, 29 Loss in 2018, 40
Sure, be pissed about this. Don’t let it make you think we’ve lost.
Fighting on the side of the rule of law while the other side doesn't is how you lose the war. Like it or not this nation is at the opening stages of a Civil war it's being fought with ballots and courtrooms but its just establishing the front lines.
Unless the democrats just surrender and go home which seems likely. They we all get to live under fascist Jesusland rules.
Oh, and that redistricting advantage is IF none of their carefully carved districts backfire on them. FL is sailing very close to the wind, and even a small blue swing could see them losing rather than winning seats. They were already gerrymandered to fuck. They made a bunch of safe seats a lot less safe to try to get their number. TX isn’t a lock either.
The other part of this too I think people are forgetting is that they still need to run an election to win. They can't keep fighting it for so long that it throws the election into chaos.
As was expected. The Reps will kill them off they need to to retain power. The people will never kill them even if it means the lives of millions. They have no reason to fight.
for those who don't want to click that link (as I didn't) so you can read the statement that can be summed up as 'another democrat bends to fascism' (you can decide if that means to bend the knee, or just bend over and take it without lube)
Lol! What a way to say "ah shucks". No, motherfucker! Say how you're going to fight this! Say what laws you're going to change to ensure that referendums become binding! Say how you'll ensure that the voice of the people isn't only heard, but also acted upon! "Oooh, you almost had it!" isn't good enough!
I beg to differ. I've done the right thing by bowing to many a facist. Puts me right at dick punching level. Which I use. To punch their dicks. Can't get a proper dick punch going while you're standing up. Best you'll get there is a sack tap. Not nearly as effective. I suppose you could do the splits and Johnny Cage that ballsack, but that's a limber man's game. And brother, I'm built for punching fascist dicks, not doing splits.
The fascists are in control and doing a fascism. The resistors "do the right thing" in that they don't tear down the system the fascists use to empower and entrench themselves.
We’ll see. People here in Virginia are REALLY PISSED. Literally asking each other if it’s time to riot. I think it is time, but I also can’t do it because my legs don’t work well enough. I’ll shore up but I’m pretty useless. Let’s see if we’re angry enough yet. We might just be.
NaughtButOne
AllRepublicansArePedophiles
Better idea, we go ahead with the election on the new maps AND execute the supreme court justices that ruled against it.
Adamsrib38
The North Carolina decision was stayed by the USSC days after it was issued. When the case was returned to the lower court, the plaintiffs (Common Cause and the NC Democratic Party) agreed to use the new maps.
DukePhelan
If the democrats had a spine we'd have a repeat of 'The courts have rendered their decision now let them enforce it'.
But this is the modern democratic party so they will wring their hands and say there is nothing they can do.
This is how we lose the fucking war!
IJustWantToMakeAComment
Honestly why are the rest of us following the law if it’s just honestly such a goddamn joke? Law isn’t real for you? Well then it’s not real for me
powwerbottom
On Tyranny (Snyder) Rule #1: do not obey in advance
hipifreq
Virginia's reaction to the court could well be: "MAKE ME"
stryhf
Virginia SCOTUS ruled the voter approved new maps unconstitutional, but allowed the election.
OneOfTheEnemiesWithin
Yes. That’s why we are so infuriated. We did everything right. Then there was a huge, and highly successful misinformation campaign by MAGA to confuse the voters and get is to vote No. We made calls, wrote letters, texted, emailed… and we won. All the same information has been available except that Trump screamed “voter fraud” and our courts said ‘we can’t prove fraud that doesn’t exist, we’ll call it unconstitutional’. Of course, the red hat wearing, local yocals completely bought it.
wecouldbehappywithoutcapitalism
I mean, what do you have to lose, Virginia?
applesforjuice
Virginia is fucking important. DC is basically Virginia. My brothers both were working on the street that Heather was killed on in Charlottesville. I walked through Lee park every day in high school and they just took down the statue. The statue of Lewis and Clark with Sacagawea kneeling behind them is in the middle of a square, and I can say gladly that I've never heard anyone refer to it as anything but "the Sacagawea statue" but it was the capital of the confederacy, it's impo.
Vortexhelios320
*looks back at history*
"Look, I'm not saying the fight ISN'T worth it, quite the contrary; just that it is best not to dwell too much on the answer to that question."
DevilsAdvocat
the speaker of the house already decided that the people of virginia don't get to decide their own fate, that only 4 white republican shit for brains do
sirleoiii
"It was about whether the voices of the people matter..."
Just to be clear, this shows that they don't. And that you (the speaker, not the poster) are okay with that. That's what you are saying.
DevilsAdvocat
don't worry, I wouldn't have expected you were directing that to me, however, I do the same to avoid miscommunication : P
ThailandExpress
PowerThruster
Dumbass, you ARE the politicians! Just give up the power, its really that simple. Its probably wise before less appealing options are taken by Virginian citizens. (To the statement not poster)
DevilsAdvocat
StephenDaniels
Virginia law is the only state law that matters in Virginia. You can't look at North Carolina law or Ohio law and expect things to be done the same. By all means criticise these activist ahole judges; but do it right, please.
Madalchemist2018
Calling out the hypocrisy and the pattern of corruption is valid criticism. If you are seriously arguing that the courts are acting in good faith, impartial or not the same side promoting the same agenda get real. YOU called them activist ahole judges, why play the game that the outcome was based on reasoning from laws instead of them basing the reasoning on the outcome they were gonna give.
StephenDaniels
Why am I certain that you haven't got a clue why the judges ruled the way they did. That all you know is that some people wouldn't give you what you wanted so they must suck.
Madalchemist2018
IDK maybe being wrong about things is your kink. I'm not here to kinkshame or judge. I am curious why you called them activist ahole judges but think calling out activist ahole tendencies is wrong.
StephenDaniels
What you are is a douchebag troll who isn't worth the time, bye!
hogeyegrex
If the five potential seats from Virginia’s redistricting are the make or break point of taking the House in the midterms, they are the least of our problems.
House margin, +6 R
Redistricting advantage now, +9 R
Average midterm loss of House seats by the sitting President’s party since WWII, 29
Loss in 2018, 40
Sure, be pissed about this. Don’t let it make you think we’ve lost.
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hogeyegrex
The VA reps were seated by a Republican, and that’s to be expected. The OH reps were seated by a Dem, and that’s inexcusable.
Again, don’t let it make you think that we’ve lost. A large part of what we’re fighting for is the rule of law. Keep that in mind.
The house is ours to lose, and the only way we will is if we’re consumed by infighting. This needs to be a wave election. Make it one.
DukePhelan
Fighting on the side of the rule of law while the other side doesn't is how you lose the war. Like it or not this nation is at the opening stages of a Civil war it's being fought with ballots and courtrooms but its just establishing the front lines.
Unless the democrats just surrender and go home which seems likely. They we all get to live under fascist Jesusland rules.
hogeyegrex
Oh, and that redistricting advantage is IF none of their carefully carved districts backfire on them. FL is sailing very close to the wind, and even a small blue swing could see them losing rather than winning seats. They were already gerrymandered to fuck. They made a bunch of safe seats a lot less safe to try to get their number. TX isn’t a lock either.
B3N15
The other part of this too I think people are forgetting is that they still need to run an election to win. They can't keep fighting it for so long that it throws the election into chaos.
WaxedApple
Virginia democrats have already given up. Did you really think they were going to fight? https://x.com/JakeSherman/status/2052759689113334023
TheFastpaws
Once again Democrats are useless pieces of shit.
vonHoopla
As was expected. The Reps will kill them off they need to to retain power. The people will never kill them even if it means the lives of millions. They have no reason to fight.
DevilsAdvocat
for those who don't want to click that link (as I didn't) so you can read the statement that can be summed up as 'another democrat bends to fascism' (you can decide if that means to bend the knee, or just bend over and take it without lube)
INeedMoreGifMeMoreJustOneMore
Lol! What a way to say "ah shucks". No, motherfucker! Say how you're going to fight this! Say what laws you're going to change to ensure that referendums become binding! Say how you'll ensure that the voice of the people isn't only heard, but also acted upon! "Oooh, you almost had it!" isn't good enough!
ThingsThatDontJustifyGenocide
"Doing the right thing" sometimes means bowing to fascists.
I wish they'd do the Just thing, instead, the feckless cunts.
bdgood132
The two parties are the facists and the feckless. There is going to be a feckless wave come November, but who really gives a shit.
Arbitrarynamehere
There is literally no scenario where bowing to fascists is the right thing
Sageypie
I beg to differ. I've done the right thing by bowing to many a facist. Puts me right at dick punching level. Which I use. To punch their dicks. Can't get a proper dick punch going while you're standing up. Best you'll get there is a sack tap. Not nearly as effective. I suppose you could do the splits and Johnny Cage that ballsack, but that's a limber man's game. And brother, I'm built for punching fascist dicks, not doing splits.
ThingsThatDontJustifyGenocide
The fascists are in control and doing a fascism. The resistors "do the right thing" in that they don't tear down the system the fascists use to empower and entrench themselves.
Arbitrarynamehere
Huh?
OneOfTheEnemiesWithin
We’ll see. People here in Virginia are REALLY PISSED. Literally asking each other if it’s time to riot. I think it is time, but I also can’t do it because my legs don’t work well enough. I’ll shore up but I’m pretty useless. Let’s see if we’re angry enough yet. We might just be.
bdgood132
Sorry 'bout your legs homie. My best friend is disabled due to a shotgun blast when he was 12. Rise up for everyone who physically cannot.
LeonBrooks
Your legs may not work but how about your trigger finger and eyesight? Riots won't do much if you can't defend yourselves.
OneOfTheEnemiesWithin
I’m keeping up on those. 😉