May 31, 2018 9:02 PM
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rshewmaker6
Just sample some Scarlett from the multiverse.
CreepyDouche
It’s why Thor got a haircut. So you can tell what timeline they’re in.
usernamestaketoomucheffort
Since they have a whole line up of movies for the now dust characters. Yea.
UltimaAvalon
Co-worker asked what I thought of the "gut-punch ending" I replied "Homecoming 2 has a release date of July 2019. There was no gut-punch."
Onlyhereforthelaughs
Betting Loki and Gamora are indeed gone though. Only those dusted by the glove would likely return.
Rokobex
Obviously they will bring (most) of them back. But the survivors still changed, especially Tony. And if you think none of the survivors 1/2
will die in A4, you don't know your stories well. Probably most of the OG Avengers will die in A4 as they sacrifice themselves.
lastmanstanding112121
I need magneto to just roll up and be all like Its metal. Its mine. Bitches. Yoink and he's gone to mess everybody up.
HoganScienceFair
How do you feel now?
Begotten
This is why I don't get how people could be so upset or invested in these movies when the heroes will never really be killed or beaten
NotIrony
Marketing is powerful. It's the only thing that's been discovered so far that controls so many people with such little over-head.
shepard1707
I'm calling it now. Only those who were snapped will be coming back.
UncomfortableTruths
Yeah I don't expect the folks who died conventionally will be returning.
bobtheaxolotl
I feel like the exception to that might be Gamora.
DefinetlyNotARussianSpy
Loki was also "snapped"
lacerkus
Spoiler Alert: Goku Spirit Bombs Thanos and brings everyone back with the Dragon Balls
ThatSquirrelInTheCorner
Except Loki and Heimdall. Have my doubts about Loki though since he didn't turn into a frost giant when he died
Pl3thor1c
Thanos never left the vision in the soul stone.
YonderPeachTree
everyone but gamora cuz she died before the snap and he needs something to emo in in the last guardians movie
MarkBishop
do people really believe that its over and they are really dead?
echonite
Given Spider-Man has like 2 or 3 more solo movies, anyone that believes it is kinda stupid.
Well...Consider the target audience and yea...
cmh252
Just as the stones were able to make them all disappear they can also make everyone appear again. read the original comics years ago....
ExplainThisJoke
what if it brings in all the SJW remakes from modern marvel: asian hulk, black autistic girl iron man, either black or asian chick spiderman
What about a disabled person you stinking ableist??
re you insinuating that not every disabled person is a hero in their own right, you fascist pig??
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!
QuiteADapperAsshole
Acting in infinity war was so strong. If the sequel has half the cast the last movie had, it would still be amazing.
3amLeaf
Well do i have news for you
ChiefJRunner
One of the obvious reasons I didn’t really care much about Infinity Wars... that and I have Superhero Fatigue
nobodyreadsusernamesanyway
I just want Kevin Bacon to get a cameo appearance..
panamjck
Why? When he is in the greatest movie ever made?
RangerOfKessig
You know what we need to beat Thanos? Squirrel Girl.
SpanisInquisition
I gotcha covered
fluhatinrapper
Too easy.
TheCarolingian
So there could be more Dr Strange/Black Panther/Spiderman movies? Yay! Hollywood is saved!
friendlyneighborhoodkae
It was confirmed before IW that Spiderman 2 takes place after Infinity War and Spidey plays a big part in phase 4
CrypticRuin
Strange gave Thanos the time stone so that Fury would send a message to Marvel in the 90's that something happened. /1
Too easy
51CorgisInABar
Addendum; Strange needed Thanos to promise not to kill Stark. He knew the future where they win would need Stark alive - he couldn’t tell
anyone what the actual plan was because they would have changed it if they’d known the details so he just told them to go with Starlord’s
plan knowing Starlord would fuck it up
Marvel gonna figure out killing Gamora is the only way to stop Thanos. Quill is gonna kill Gamora just like she asked him to. /2
Scarlet Witch gonna kill Vision just like she asked him to. So Strange, Thor and Hulk are each gonna have a stone vs Thanos's 3 /3
ThisCommentisaTideAd
"So we're all men of our word really. Except Elizabeth who is in fact, a woman."
Thor gonna die cause hes the last of the ruling Asgardians, filling Valhalla, and resurrecting them all. When Thanos is dead /4
Quill uses the reality stone to resurrect Gamorra. Vision goes back to being an AI without the stone. /5
Thanos is defeated because he never loved anything except Gamorra. /end
Happyrexmanningday
Can you expand on how Fury sends a message back to the 90s? He doesn’t have the time stone. How can he send a message back in time?
Not sure if that’s a dumb question but that’s the only point I didn’t follow. Rest of your theory was very interesting!
DrScott
Just because captain marvel is set in the 90s doesn't mean he wasn't contacting her in the present
And one of her core powers is time travel.
As Fury is getting snapped he uses a crazy looking pager that has Cpt Marvels logo on it.
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
How and why would he be sending the message to the past. What does the time stone have to do with that scene
superanth
Pretty sure it involves Steve wearing the spare dwarven gauntlet and bringing back everyone. Rumor has it Peggy Carter too!
VigorousButtstuff
Considering everyone's on the IMDB page, we already knew that was coming.
My theory is that it didn't kill people. It split the universe. Bucky will have seen Cap die, and have to take on the shield himself, etc.
EmperorWonton
Explain to me how they gon undo Gamora
smashpro1
She's alive inside the Soul Stone.
kemsat
I was wondering why Thanos didn’t just bring her back once he had all the stones. Since he supposedly loved her
PotatoIsland
Easy with all the stones you can do pretty much anything they get the stones and then just snap, boom she's alive. Or ya know, time travel
GordonMcSorley
Anyone who looked like being teleported was indeed teleported. Vision may be the only one who dies as he needs a stone to be a thing
dodrian
I hope that those who died will stay dead (except maybe Loki, 'cuz "he's died before"). Those that were snapped will come back.
IncredibleViolence
The Asgardians who died may be reborn on Earth, as well as Loki. Loki alluded to this when he told Thanos “You’ll never be a god”
CactusFantastic0
I don’t think Loki is dead. He’s the god of trickery after all.
JabberMoxie
It’s possible that wasn’t Loki. Some speculate that Banner is really Loki or inhabited by Loki, hence his... er... dysfunction. *shrug*
Pocoyoyo
There wouldn't really be a point the banner's internal struggle then. Like why when he's alone would he be pretending to almost hulk out?
If Loki were possessing him somehow, maybe. It’s not my theory, nor do I necessarily subscribe to it. I’m sure someone explains it better.
Rawmeat95
I attribute hulk's dysfunction on how much he's been losing lately. Thor beat him and Thanos just kinda bitch slaps him.
Rifneno
If that really IS Banner, then they need to explain why the fuck he has access to Hulk's memories now
Thor won that fight? You sure? That doesn’t sound right.
FlandersNed
Well, it's true.
McFisticuffs
Nah, Thor won. Easily.
OutrageousHemmorhoid
Hulk needs to use this loss to become the true Hulk, the one who gets bigger and stronger with anger and the size of the challenge he faces
ShotsoMilk
Yeah they really fucked up the Hulk in the new ones. He loses all the fights and acts like a bitch the entire movie and that's disappointing
MjolnirCat
I kinda wanna see Thunderbolt Ross "RULK out" and push Banner to evolve as Hulk, but I'm not sure the MCU is touching that plot line.
ThrowAwayAcct0000
I think he faked his death again, and everyone will have to work with him to fix things, but they won’t trust him, like Dr Doom in the comic
Enderst123
I think the same, Except probably Gamora will come back as well. And Stark will die.
Really torn about Gamora though. I can't see them not bringing her back, but it would be best for the story if she wasn't.
Gamora is confirmed in the Soul Stone
mrhardy12
If you know how the story goes in the comics, Gamora is quite important post-Thanos. Won't say more, but she's almost guaranteed to be back.
simondude
GoTG director said that she’ll be a major part of vol.3
SometimesISayHistoryStuff
Gamora will be in the Soul Stone. Meanwhile most of the original cast (all of whom survived the snap) will die/retire during 4.
TheGirlInTheFireplace
Doubtful she's dead. They said Guardians Vol 3 was gonna revolve around her as the main character.
Prageon
I hope those that died before the Infinity Gauntlet was used, stay dead
iamthisguy247
I think everyone who died before the finger snap will stay dead except her. She was the trade for the soul stone so maybe she’s alive in it.
profanelogic
http://collider.com/infinity-war-soul-stone-theory-gamora/
Thanks!
omgew
Dr Strange created a time loop to run through every scenario (400 million, I believe) until they win.
pretzelsalter
Do we have to watch all 14 million versions from now on?
Plot twist: they release 14 million different cuts. Every theater gets its own version of the movie
cptcr
I swear he said fourteen million and five. 14,000,005
Ralphwaldo3
14,000,605
RedClaws23
He did not run through every scenario, he just went through as many as it took to find one where they win. His last words suggest that we're
hobojones85
We're in the end game now. He did what he had to to save as many as he can. We were never going to win. He lied about winning 1.
still in the range of non-zero chance of getting that win. Now it's a matter of figuring out what parameters he meant by "win".
NotGarrusVakarian
I believe that he knew Thanos had to win first before the Avengers could.
DaymanUHAHUHFighteroftheNightmanUHAHUHChampionoftheSunUHAHUH
14.6 million Iirc. I believe he had to scan this many outcomes to find one where specific individuals all survive the genocide.
I don't believe he implied that this was a guaranteed win seeing as he can't control the outcome beyond his death.
He said there is 1 scenario on which they win. He also didn't seem phased because he knew Thanos had to and would get all stonos
Flyndaran
He was very much phased, just not fazed.
Well put
DirtyMikeWithTheBoys
He never got the kidney stone though
GoodEffectOnTarget
Or the gallbladder stone either
effinwizard
Thanos got the stonos
ShouldersDeepInAHorse
Then killos the heros
KronksChin
Lemonaded
But he kept the enchantment on the stone so it burned his hand when he did the snap
Dash3K
I think the point was to ensure tony stark lives.
Ever since they dragged time travel into the mix, literally ANYTHING could happen
cancerriddenlung
There's a reality gem and soul gem and mind gem too bruh
khora
All the cast will be black, except the people of Wakanda.
Wulfgang77
I mean, just look at the Xmen. Idk wtf is going on there. I just my boy The Beast to give Thanos one good whack, that's all I want.
Toofwess
I mean.. the time stone kinda already brought time travel in before it was even used in Dr Strange, so.. yeah.
littleasianninja
hopefully they bring back street sharks
besn
Even a AoS crossover?
rightcalf
Also, Strange seeing the 1 in millions of options is a freebie for writers to do anything even if it doesn’t make sense. Lazy.
ieatkittensforfun
Hopefully they bring back GO bots
DavidBrooker
Disney will release the Avengers in 14,000,603 parts showing every timeline until they win.
totallycooldude
Honestly it could be kinda cool to have a montage of every way it could go wrong.
8bitin4k
Hopefully they bring back Ronan.
LeftHandPanda
He's going to be in the Captain Marvel film
Sadly, it's only a GotG prequel so he's still ultimately dead. ????
I heard that, and I was so excited I told my entire family.
Schmuck4hire
I think they dropped the ball on us accepting character deaths when they showed Nick Fury literally be pronounced dead on the operating 1/
table, AND STILL kept him alive. 2/2
Well also the fact that spoiler, Spiderman homecoming 2 and guardians of the galaxy 3 were both announced and the director for Guardians 1/
stated back before this movie even came out that Mantis and Gamora are both going to play big parts in Guardians 3 so these deaths were 2/
never going to stick around, and if they go with the comics, everyone gets wished back to life there as well. 3/3
assholecasserole
Hopefully they bring back 3D Doritos
MCDofficial
They still exist
obviouscoconut
PacosTacos
Don't just say that and not tell us where to look
Tridenteon
Apparently they are still sold in Mexico.
Indeed
rshewmaker6
Just sample some Scarlett from the multiverse.
CreepyDouche
It’s why Thor got a haircut. So you can tell what timeline they’re in.
usernamestaketoomucheffort
Since they have a whole line up of movies for the now dust characters. Yea.
UltimaAvalon
Co-worker asked what I thought of the "gut-punch ending" I replied "Homecoming 2 has a release date of July 2019. There was no gut-punch."
Onlyhereforthelaughs
Betting Loki and Gamora are indeed gone though. Only those dusted by the glove would likely return.
Rokobex
Obviously they will bring (most) of them back. But the survivors still changed, especially Tony. And if you think none of the survivors 1/2
Rokobex
will die in A4, you don't know your stories well. Probably most of the OG Avengers will die in A4 as they sacrifice themselves.
lastmanstanding112121
I need magneto to just roll up and be all like Its metal. Its mine. Bitches. Yoink and he's gone to mess everybody up.
HoganScienceFair
How do you feel now?
Begotten
This is why I don't get how people could be so upset or invested in these movies when the heroes will never really be killed or beaten
NotIrony
Marketing is powerful. It's the only thing that's been discovered so far that controls so many people with such little over-head.
shepard1707
I'm calling it now. Only those who were snapped will be coming back.
UncomfortableTruths
Yeah I don't expect the folks who died conventionally will be returning.
bobtheaxolotl
I feel like the exception to that might be Gamora.
DefinetlyNotARussianSpy
Loki was also "snapped"
lacerkus
Spoiler Alert: Goku Spirit Bombs Thanos and brings everyone back with the Dragon Balls
ThatSquirrelInTheCorner
Except Loki and Heimdall. Have my doubts about Loki though since he didn't turn into a frost giant when he died
Pl3thor1c
Thanos never left the vision in the soul stone.
YonderPeachTree
everyone but gamora cuz she died before the snap and he needs something to emo in in the last guardians movie
MarkBishop
do people really believe that its over and they are really dead?
echonite
Given Spider-Man has like 2 or 3 more solo movies, anyone that believes it is kinda stupid.
Begotten
Well...Consider the target audience and yea...
cmh252
Just as the stones were able to make them all disappear they can also make everyone appear again. read the original comics years ago....
ExplainThisJoke
what if it brings in all the SJW remakes from modern marvel: asian hulk, black autistic girl iron man, either black or asian chick spiderman
Begotten
What about a disabled person you stinking ableist??
ExplainThisJoke
re you insinuating that not every disabled person is a hero in their own right, you fascist pig??
Begotten
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!
QuiteADapperAsshole
Acting in infinity war was so strong. If the sequel has half the cast the last movie had, it would still be amazing.
3amLeaf
Well do i have news for you
ChiefJRunner
One of the obvious reasons I didn’t really care much about Infinity Wars... that and I have Superhero Fatigue
nobodyreadsusernamesanyway
I just want Kevin Bacon to get a cameo appearance..
panamjck
Why? When he is in the greatest movie ever made?
RangerOfKessig
You know what we need to beat Thanos? Squirrel Girl.
SpanisInquisition
fluhatinrapper
Too easy.
TheCarolingian
So there could be more Dr Strange/Black Panther/Spiderman movies? Yay! Hollywood is saved!
friendlyneighborhoodkae
It was confirmed before IW that Spiderman 2 takes place after Infinity War and Spidey plays a big part in phase 4
CrypticRuin
Strange gave Thanos the time stone so that Fury would send a message to Marvel in the 90's that something happened. /1
fluhatinrapper
Too easy
51CorgisInABar
Addendum; Strange needed Thanos to promise not to kill Stark. He knew the future where they win would need Stark alive - he couldn’t tell
51CorgisInABar
anyone what the actual plan was because they would have changed it if they’d known the details so he just told them to go with Starlord’s
51CorgisInABar
plan knowing Starlord would fuck it up
CrypticRuin
Marvel gonna figure out killing Gamora is the only way to stop Thanos. Quill is gonna kill Gamora just like she asked him to. /2
CrypticRuin
Scarlet Witch gonna kill Vision just like she asked him to. So Strange, Thor and Hulk are each gonna have a stone vs Thanos's 3 /3
ThisCommentisaTideAd
"So we're all men of our word really. Except Elizabeth who is in fact, a woman."
CrypticRuin
Thor gonna die cause hes the last of the ruling Asgardians, filling Valhalla, and resurrecting them all. When Thanos is dead /4
CrypticRuin
Quill uses the reality stone to resurrect Gamorra. Vision goes back to being an AI without the stone. /5
CrypticRuin
Thanos is defeated because he never loved anything except Gamorra. /end
Happyrexmanningday
Can you expand on how Fury sends a message back to the 90s? He doesn’t have the time stone. How can he send a message back in time?
Happyrexmanningday
Not sure if that’s a dumb question but that’s the only point I didn’t follow. Rest of your theory was very interesting!
DrScott
Just because captain marvel is set in the 90s doesn't mean he wasn't contacting her in the present
CrypticRuin
And one of her core powers is time travel.
CrypticRuin
As Fury is getting snapped he uses a crazy looking pager that has Cpt Marvels logo on it.
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
How and why would he be sending the message to the past. What does the time stone have to do with that scene
superanth
Pretty sure it involves Steve wearing the spare dwarven gauntlet and bringing back everyone. Rumor has it Peggy Carter too!
VigorousButtstuff
Considering everyone's on the IMDB page, we already knew that was coming.
VigorousButtstuff
My theory is that it didn't kill people. It split the universe. Bucky will have seen Cap die, and have to take on the shield himself, etc.
EmperorWonton
Explain to me how they gon undo Gamora
smashpro1
She's alive inside the Soul Stone.
kemsat
I was wondering why Thanos didn’t just bring her back once he had all the stones. Since he supposedly loved her
PotatoIsland
Easy with all the stones you can do pretty much anything they get the stones and then just snap, boom she's alive. Or ya know, time travel
GordonMcSorley
Anyone who looked like being teleported was indeed teleported. Vision may be the only one who dies as he needs a stone to be a thing
dodrian
I hope that those who died will stay dead (except maybe Loki, 'cuz "he's died before"). Those that were snapped will come back.
IncredibleViolence
The Asgardians who died may be reborn on Earth, as well as Loki. Loki alluded to this when he told Thanos “You’ll never be a god”
CactusFantastic0
I don’t think Loki is dead. He’s the god of trickery after all.
JabberMoxie
It’s possible that wasn’t Loki. Some speculate that Banner is really Loki or inhabited by Loki, hence his... er... dysfunction. *shrug*
Pocoyoyo
There wouldn't really be a point the banner's internal struggle then. Like why when he's alone would he be pretending to almost hulk out?
JabberMoxie
If Loki were possessing him somehow, maybe. It’s not my theory, nor do I necessarily subscribe to it. I’m sure someone explains it better.
Rawmeat95
I attribute hulk's dysfunction on how much he's been losing lately. Thor beat him and Thanos just kinda bitch slaps him.
Rifneno
If that really IS Banner, then they need to explain why the fuck he has access to Hulk's memories now
JabberMoxie
Thor won that fight? You sure? That doesn’t sound right.
FlandersNed
Well, it's true.
McFisticuffs
Nah, Thor won. Easily.
OutrageousHemmorhoid
Hulk needs to use this loss to become the true Hulk, the one who gets bigger and stronger with anger and the size of the challenge he faces
ShotsoMilk
Yeah they really fucked up the Hulk in the new ones. He loses all the fights and acts like a bitch the entire movie and that's disappointing
MjolnirCat
I kinda wanna see Thunderbolt Ross "RULK out" and push Banner to evolve as Hulk, but I'm not sure the MCU is touching that plot line.
ThrowAwayAcct0000
I think he faked his death again, and everyone will have to work with him to fix things, but they won’t trust him, like Dr Doom in the comic
Enderst123
I think the same, Except probably Gamora will come back as well. And Stark will die.
dodrian
Really torn about Gamora though. I can't see them not bringing her back, but it would be best for the story if she wasn't.
IncredibleViolence
Gamora is confirmed in the Soul Stone
mrhardy12
If you know how the story goes in the comics, Gamora is quite important post-Thanos. Won't say more, but she's almost guaranteed to be back.
simondude
GoTG director said that she’ll be a major part of vol.3
SometimesISayHistoryStuff
Gamora will be in the Soul Stone. Meanwhile most of the original cast (all of whom survived the snap) will die/retire during 4.
TheGirlInTheFireplace
Doubtful she's dead. They said Guardians Vol 3 was gonna revolve around her as the main character.
Prageon
I hope those that died before the Infinity Gauntlet was used, stay dead
iamthisguy247
I think everyone who died before the finger snap will stay dead except her. She was the trade for the soul stone so maybe she’s alive in it.
profanelogic
http://collider.com/infinity-war-soul-stone-theory-gamora/
iamthisguy247
Thanks!
omgew
Dr Strange created a time loop to run through every scenario (400 million, I believe) until they win.
pretzelsalter
Do we have to watch all 14 million versions from now on?
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
Plot twist: they release 14 million different cuts. Every theater gets its own version of the movie
cptcr
I swear he said fourteen million and five. 14,000,005
Ralphwaldo3
14,000,605
RedClaws23
He did not run through every scenario, he just went through as many as it took to find one where they win. His last words suggest that we're
hobojones85
We're in the end game now. He did what he had to to save as many as he can. We were never going to win. He lied about winning 1.
RedClaws23
still in the range of non-zero chance of getting that win. Now it's a matter of figuring out what parameters he meant by "win".
NotGarrusVakarian
I believe that he knew Thanos had to win first before the Avengers could.
DaymanUHAHUHFighteroftheNightmanUHAHUHChampionoftheSunUHAHUH
14.6 million Iirc. I believe he had to scan this many outcomes to find one where specific individuals all survive the genocide.
DaymanUHAHUHFighteroftheNightmanUHAHUHChampionoftheSunUHAHUH
I don't believe he implied that this was a guaranteed win seeing as he can't control the outcome beyond his death.
omgew
He said there is 1 scenario on which they win. He also didn't seem phased because he knew Thanos had to and would get all stonos
Flyndaran
He was very much phased, just not fazed.
omgew
Well put
DirtyMikeWithTheBoys
He never got the kidney stone though
GoodEffectOnTarget
Or the gallbladder stone either
effinwizard
Thanos got the stonos
ShouldersDeepInAHorse
Then killos the heros
KronksChin
Lemonaded
But he kept the enchantment on the stone so it burned his hand when he did the snap
Dash3K
I think the point was to ensure tony stark lives.
DefinetlyNotARussianSpy
Ever since they dragged time travel into the mix, literally ANYTHING could happen
cancerriddenlung
There's a reality gem and soul gem and mind gem too bruh
khora
All the cast will be black, except the people of Wakanda.
Wulfgang77
I mean, just look at the Xmen. Idk wtf is going on there. I just my boy The Beast to give Thanos one good whack, that's all I want.
Toofwess
I mean.. the time stone kinda already brought time travel in before it was even used in Dr Strange, so.. yeah.
littleasianninja
hopefully they bring back street sharks
besn
Even a AoS crossover?
rightcalf
Also, Strange seeing the 1 in millions of options is a freebie for writers to do anything even if it doesn’t make sense. Lazy.
ieatkittensforfun
Hopefully they bring back GO bots
DavidBrooker
Disney will release the Avengers in 14,000,603 parts showing every timeline until they win.
totallycooldude
Honestly it could be kinda cool to have a montage of every way it could go wrong.
8bitin4k
Hopefully they bring back Ronan.
LeftHandPanda
He's going to be in the Captain Marvel film
8bitin4k
Sadly, it's only a GotG prequel so he's still ultimately dead. ????
8bitin4k
I heard that, and I was so excited I told my entire family.
Schmuck4hire
I think they dropped the ball on us accepting character deaths when they showed Nick Fury literally be pronounced dead on the operating 1/
Schmuck4hire
table, AND STILL kept him alive. 2/2
PotatoIsland
Well also the fact that spoiler, Spiderman homecoming 2 and guardians of the galaxy 3 were both announced and the director for Guardians 1/
PotatoIsland
stated back before this movie even came out that Mantis and Gamora are both going to play big parts in Guardians 3 so these deaths were 2/
PotatoIsland
never going to stick around, and if they go with the comics, everyone gets wished back to life there as well. 3/3
assholecasserole
Hopefully they bring back 3D Doritos
MCDofficial
They still exist
assholecasserole
obviouscoconut
PacosTacos
Don't just say that and not tell us where to look
Tridenteon
Apparently they are still sold in Mexico.
MCDofficial
Indeed