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Star Destroyer and X-Wing For Sale, Used
The crashed Star Destroyer and X-Wing on Jakku are both ROTJ era (Imperial II-class Star Destroyer and T-65 X-Wing), showing that the Battle of Jakku takes place much closer to the OT than the new films (confirming what was stated in the Star Wars Celebration Battlefront panel).
Darth Vader's Helmet (has seen better days)
Darth Vader's helmet is a display in a very clean environment, indicating that someone other than Luke has collected it and places a large amount of value on it. This is most likely Kylo Ren, going around and collecting significant Sith artifacts, or maybe even collecting what he sees as a family heirloom.
"Hooded Figure" and R2-D2
If this isn't Luke, then it's the most pointless mislead since JJ Abrams said the villain of Into Darkness wasn't Khan. Luke being in a cave with R2 lends a lot of credibility to the rumor that he has found an ancient Sith artifact/entity and has secluded himself in order to guard it. The synthflesh missing from his hand definitely isn't a good thing as it shows he's been away from civilization for a long while. A bit of trivia, the voice-over in the teaser is taken directly from Luke's dialogue in RotJ, but Mark Hamill also recorded the line again this year, which was then used as reverb in the teaser.
Passing of the Lightsaber
Whoever is handing the lightsaber to (probably) Rey is definitely not Leia or even human. The face, hand size and coloring are all wrong. Yellow skin, a hand with adult proportions smaller than a human child's, this character is probably the alien rumored to be played/voiced by Lupita Nyong'o.
It Belongs in a Museum!
As a note, this is Anakin's second lightsaber, the one he constructed at the beginning of the Clone Wars. Three years of being used in the Clone Wars, twenty years of sitting in a chest in Obi-Wan's hut on Tatooine, three years being used by Luke until he loses it, along with his hand, in Cloud City. Then 30 years who knows where before it shows up in this movie. For all that, this saber's still looking pretty good.
The Alliance Starbird Keeps on Flying
The Rebel/Resistance logo hasn't changed in 30+ years. Either this group is a holdover/splinter group or the Empire/First Order is the only one that employs graphic artists.
For those that don't know, the Aurabesh writing on Poe's flight suit is upside down and says "Pull to inflate". Nice to see attention to detail isn't being missed in this movie.
T-70 X-Wing Fighter
While being passed off as the evolution of the earlier T-65 X-Wing from the original trilogy, this X-Wing is really just taken from Ralph McQuarrie's original concept paintings, as seen below.
Bad Guy Does Bad Things To Show Audience He's Bad
In this shot, Kylo Ren slashes his lightsaber at someone offscreen. Based on how the Stormtroopers behind him are standing at attention, this is likely Kylo Ren executing someone early in the movie, establishing him as an actual villain, not just someone that carries a red lightsaber for style.
As a note, I love that the new First Order stormtroopers still use shoulder pauldrons.
More Bad Things
Kylo Ren and his stormtroopers look like they're corralling people next to what might be moisture vaporators. Since Jakku is a desert planet, it seems like the logical location for this to take place.
I Don't Think They're Clones Now
I had to include three different shots of this scene, as so much information is given out. The new snowtroopers can be seen in the very front row. On top of the platform, a silver trooper stands next to the main figure, probably Captain Phasma. There's a large variation of stormtroopers standing in the assembly.
Ralph McQuarrie Concept Stormtrooper
Before lightsabers were established as Jedi-only weapons, there were plans for every stormtrooper to carry a saber and shield. The shield has finally made its way into the movie, as can be seen on the far right of each of these assembly shots. No indication of what weapon he's carrying, if any, but if I wouldn't be surprised if he has some sort of melee weapon instead of a blaster.
Some of the troopers have straps crossing their back in the first shot. Now we can see that those straps keep a chest/bandolier type thing in place. Also, on the right side you can get a good glimpse of the new flametrooper.
Ralph McQuarrie Concept Snowtrooper
In keeping with the trend for this movie, the new snowtroopers borrow heavily from Ralph McQuarrie's paintings. They're barely visible in these shots, but the full costume was on display at Star Wars Celebration Anaheim and a quick google search will show you the whole thing.
On the far left, the new TIE fighters can be seen, and close to them, some Imperial Navy Crewman, complete with ludicrous helmet. Apparently they don't get a fancy new outfit like all the stormtroopers.
So Many New Ships
In case anyone missed it, the TIE fighter in the hangar has a totally different body the other new TIEs. In the upper left you can see the cockpit of a more normal TIE fighter. On the right, there is one of the new ships that appears escorting the shuttle in the next shot.
Flying V!
What looks like the successor to the Lambda Class shuttle has dropped the top wing and become something that looks both cool and useless. Not sure why any ship would have that design. The four boxes flying next to it seem much more practical, if a bit boring.
The new Star Destroyer's two tiered body looks great to me. The whole shape is much more aggressive and sinister than the Imperial II-class Star Destroyers.
Shiny Armor Better Have Active Camouflage
Captain Phasma's amor has a huge number of subtle differences from the new standard stormtrooper armor, most of which look like callbacks to earlier armors, from the phase II clonetroopers helmet ridge to the classic TK abdomen plate. I'm guessing this'll be one of the first times most male cosplayers will want to do a female's costume (assuming that Captain Phasma is played by Gwendoline Christie).
And seriously. If this armor doesn't have some sort of camouflage mode, it's worse than the all white stormtroopers.
Commander Gree
I included this just to give a quick reference to the armor above. It's obviously not exactly the same, but I see a lot of influence. Except for the obvious camouflage.
They're Going to Run Out of Space Real Quick
In case anyone missed it, the ship the Millennium Falcon flies into at the end of the teaser isn't the Star Destroyer from the opening. It's impossible to be sure before watching the movie, but it looks like an upside down Super Star Destroyer.
Star Destroyer/Super Star Destroyer Comparison
As you can see in this shot, the Super Star Destroyer has panels that go over the tops of the engines, much like in the shot above, provided it's upside down. Either way, the missing bridge means that it's not the Star Destroyer.
The TIE pilot helmet at the end is still quite close to the original stormtrooper faceplate (the original TIE helmet was made by attaching a stormtrooper faceplate to a X-Wing helmet), but has some Clone Wars style boxes on the sides. I really like how they're blending sources from the past to create a new modern style.
CT-1284 "Spark"
Reference shot for those that haven't seen The Clone Wars.
I've seen an increased number of posts about Star Wars lore on here, but very few that go in depth to the degree that I like. If anyone wants more posts about things like what Anakin being the Chosen One meant, why the most pivotal moment in Star Wars history was actually just a Clone Wars episode, how the prequels mirror the originals to make the whole series a great example of ring composition, or posts about anything else, let me know in the comments!
BriefausdemGeist
ok, but where's Thrawn?
stvh8
Signed up for an Imgur account just to thank you for this post. Great work! More!!
PrettyflyforaJedi
Solid. Fucking. Post. +1
TheErectionSelection
Would love to know more, could do with catching up before this is released!
youdontknowmebud
nerd
MyNameIsJeffGoldblum
How would I miss any of these things? By not watching the trailer? Either way, good explanatory post. Have an upvote.
HanSoloed
Most posts please!
idontknowwhatsexis
thanks for the cool post
mynameisaction
I will be sure to print this out and put checks and Xs next to each of these theories as I watch the movie in the theatre.
Spearka
#18 check out my chrome, y'all
Undecisiveusername
More. The community desires it
PineappleIsDeliciousOnPizzaFightMe
Thank god for detail oriented people like you. If you do a summary of the major events of the clone wars, I, for one, would appreciate it.
skyhook
Hamill's voiceover is also different. "My father HAS it" instead of the "My father HAD it" from ROTJ. Hamill accidentally verified.
daedalus304
You missed that the reflector dish on the falcon is a new small rectangular one, to replace the circular one lost in the 2nd Death Star run
rentaldeception
LALALALALLALALA DIDNT READ SKIPPING POST DIDNT SEE ANYTHING
strawmanAlert
Do more! Do all of it more!!
shinyRK9
http://imgur.com/VSEbnJh
RaiseThemPitchforks
Damn there are so many irrelevant facts in this post.
boonesaloon
yes more make more MORE
goodguygonebad
More posts I would like
JustHereToSeeStuff
Haha, imagine stormtroopers with lightsabers. What a mess
Seradamthedeflowerer
As a newb, what episode was "why the most pivotal moment in Star Wars history was actually just a Clone Wars episode"?
bsmack44
the only episode wookiepeedia has on ct1248 is the episode cat and mouse its in season 2 of the clone wars
BrotherEstapol
Seconded!
TalesFromADoor
You're that guy.
Shaggy9342
Yes. Yes I am. And I've fully embraced it.
los1440
OK so whats the most pivotal moment in Star Wars The Clone Wars? I have a feeling but I want to see your take on it.
freebooterz
Solid post, could you do more? I haven't seen all the clone wars episodes :(
Shaggy9342
Woops. My description got pushed to the bottom. Sorry about that for anyone trying to avoid the Star Wars rumor mill.
alexlouisarmstronggg
So what is the most pivotal moment in the Star Wars universe? I assume you're talking about the Mortis arc.
Rovylern
Rovylern
(please)
DnDJunker
Great post. Solid analysis. I disagree about the Rebel logo. Why should it change? Look at Coca Cola. Don't fix what ain't broken.
JaimeBro
What clone wars episode was most pivotal moment in Star Wars history? [Desire to know more intensifies]
cytokinesis
Would also like to know!
bsmack44
s2E16 of the clone wars has ct1248 in it. so if thatch the most pivotal episode? idk? i also didn't see ct1248 in the trailer
mihnt
I would like to know this as well.
saberkiwi
I also would like to know. Bump!
magicbiped
The saber is Vader's, not his Clone Wars one. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/fc/d1/b4/fcd1b45074ce1097c6cf9e1bf3917830.jpg
pandorafalters
#16 the TIE on the right appears to be rotated 90 degrees (cockpit glass up, engine down) from the normal orientation on the left.
Shaggy9342
That's a great catch! That would explain the gearlike connections to the wings on both sides. Looks like new TIEs have rotating cockpits.
NorCalAirman
No, look at the wings. They're rotated too. It's just a TIE fighter basically on its 'back'.
MockMeAllYouWant
It would be like taking the ball turret of of an old B17 flying fortress and sending it into space with nothing but a set of wings.
pandorafalters
That's weird. I guess lore-wise it could be for maintenance access, but ISTR that the old TIEs had _removable_ wings for such reasons.
Shaggy9342
All old canon is gone though, like the old removable wings. A cockpit that could rotate in combat would be much more agile than the old TIE.
pandorafalters
Probably not, actually. In the absence of air resistance it would lead to some strange rotational effects.