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Babybunz
You've lost yourself, @OP. Take a breath and come back to reality. Everything's gonna be okay.
raosion
Yes, please, let's engage in misery poker to see which side has it worse because of sexism. Surely a productive use of our time.
bigstacks
I bet OP has women constantly staring at his crotch.
goodtobeme
As a woman I often NEVER stare at a man's crotch.
JapaneseStudentTadashii
Often
AFuckingBazooka
uggh. Stop objectifying meeee!
Taxicat
At least the women who are usually subtle and polite about it (quick glance out of the corner of the eye, then move on). 1/
Taxicat
Can't really say the same of guys leering and commenting on someone's tits. 2/
brettribution
It's interesting that the first argument about gender equality is usually about hitting women.
FarmingFarrier
As a woman I believe that if a woman hits a man she deserves a hit back!
commish
Someone once told me it was because they wanted to see if women accepted responsibilities too. Total bullshit. Some people are just wankers
cutiepatoodiepumpkinbooty
Hey man, I just want to punch everyone equally. But not dogs, fuck people who hit dogs.
BrontTheGoodBoy
Equal rights, equal fights.
squiddlyDOwrong
3 hours too late
TechnicallyRight
It's because abusive relationships happen from both sides but one is demonized and one is forgotten about and shrugged off as unimportant.
Theumbraetant
It's like... my girlfriend is allowed to pinch me to the point of bleeding, but once I put her into a rear-naked choke, I become the bad guy
LearnedCoward
Because a 300-pound man flat out decking a 100-pound woman is suddenly equal in any way, shape or form.
DoctorMantisTobogganMD
Yeah so apparently there was a panel of the comic that mentioned weight that didn't show up for me. Either that or you're fucking stupid.
JustAMinnesotaImguy
A small minority of people who create these comics probably have some pent-up aggression issues.
madeofcarbon
Hitting people isn't cool. Full stop. If you hear "you go girl" to a woman hitting a man, thats not a statement on feminism
madeofcarbon
...it's a sign you've read something written by an idiot.
ZVanderberg
"It's just about self defense!" *tips fedora and disappears in cloud of vapor*
mieuu
Everything is about ethics in video game journalism, m'gentlebeard
ZVanderberg
Oh god, I forgot that whole saga of bullshit happened. So glad that seems to be (mostly) over.
Popeowned
There were many women who were in that whole thing, to be fair. Not like it was some big fedora tipping contest. (Oh god, that's horrifying)
fuck123456789
it was a large majority of men
subwayporno
Everything about this is so generalized and hyperbolic and almost downright false it's almost funny.
LordsBladeCiaran
Just like the reversed ones for females,I think it was more a response to show both can cherry pick
DoorToDoorWikipediaSalesman
Almost.
MONORacer
Yes
UmbrellaLampshade
TIL staring at a man's crotch is flirting. The game has changed of late.
issuenotachoo
oMFG imgur, one more post like this on the fp and you're dead to me. this circle jerk shit is pathetic. go suck off a giraffe.
VoltageXL1
To be fair all of the comments on this are against it. I don't even know how it got fp with so much hate. Not all imgur is bad
issuenotachoo
true that not all imgur is bad, this comment was my 'why the fuck is this on the fp' reaction. I wonder how it happens, but then people 1/
issuenotachoo
like the other guy who replied to this show up and I'm like 'oh, that's how' and it's just sad. but oh well.
HonorablePenileDischarge
issuenotachoo
are you saying I'm triggered? complete opposite, I'm bored of all this whiney bullshit.
HonorablePenileDischarge
Then ignore it instead of saying things such as "go suck off a giraffe.". Like someone who is triggered.
issuenotachoo
lol I don't think you know what triggered means. are giraffes your favorite animal? is that what's got you triggered? there, there sweetie
HonorablePenileDischarge
No, but one of my favorite animals are the mean boys who called you fat in high school or whatever made you so anti-male.
seemill
"Mother, fetch me a celebratory Mt. Dew. My shitpost has gone viral and these doritos are dry. I'll be in the basement."
fortehh
A+
AlmostAlwaysDrunk
I live in my own place, I only posted this to annoy UserSub... never expected front page
octopussua
Yea because red pill bullshit doesn't frequently make front page
DarthFutuza
https://67.media.tumblr.com/5a0813005fc5052056a25b74b3c8dfe0/tumblr_o88jz3TgS41v07se4o1_500.jpg
kentk94
Mom! MOM!!! Bathroom! More Hot pockets!
SweetBabyYeezus
MA! THE MEATLOAF!! FUCK!
zorbivore
*tips fedora*
celedream
Hahahaha, top comment right here.
mieuu
Show me on the doll where the mean girl friendzoned you
ASongOfPissAndFarts
Gizzyistheshizzy
Tosses into the trash
mieuu
Oh no my top comment is sliding slowly down the page, time to post something helpful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvAumsx7GCY
SeanBeanDiesAlot
fucking brilliant!
Marxthird
Damn
lGneousMlracIe
That's the problem officer, this doll, like all girls now apparently, doesn't have a heart.
issuenotachoo
she doesn't want a nice guy like me touching her :'(
Volt1ighter
Calm down Drake
DrewBerg
I love this reply so much I want to marry it. @mieuu
mieuu
EXCUSE ME I HAVE A BOYFRIEND *STORMS OFF*
DrewBerg
Dang it! Friend zoned again! Time to make an angry meme blaming all my short comings on all girls for being sluts
GodEmperorOfImgur
Aaaand there's the sexism.
xanbcoo
No though
dudeawesomedude
Sexism against men is so ingrained that any revelation of it is met with extreme resistance and denial
CaptainShutTheFuckUp
So adorable!
Cawaica
Men are afraid women are going to make fun of them/Ruin their reputation. Women are afraid men are going to kill them.
dudeawesomedude
Look at the facts. https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/wicked-deeds/201510/white-females-are-rarely-murder-victims-or-perpetrators
dudeawesomedude
http://www.saveservices.org/2012/02/cdc-study-more-men-than-women-victims-of-partner-abuse/
rosiethereaver
That's not true. We're also afraid men will rape us or attack us for rejecting them.
mieuu
Why am I getting so many votes this shit shouldnt be on the front page guys
parkanov
we need something to rally around in this ocean of diarrhea
ohyouhere
Can't upvote enough
iDrinkDrano
Because imgur
GodEmperorOfImgur
Because sexism towards men is hilarious.
MotionOfTheOcean
Not having shelters for men for domestic abuse and only few support groups for sexually abused men are sexistic issues against men. 1/2
MotionOfTheOcean
Having (in many countries) to do military service that is not obligatory for women is sexism against men. Having young boys forced to not2/3
MotionOfTheOcean
show emotion are sexist issues for men. We don't need the "we vs. them" mentality we see in this post. 3/4
FANGSUP7
I agree with the post to some extent but holy shit your burn deserves props.
mieuu
I use this comment every time this is reposted. Of the OPs who respond Ive had a couple that were going through a divorce. Shits rough.
AlmostAlwaysDrunk
I only posted this to get a reaction, seems like it worked m8
ohyouhere
I only shit all over your house to get a reaction - OP
Vectorman2
Cant figure out what to do with your summer vacation?
JustJacque
He's probably just drunk.
stabstone
Men repost stuff - downvote. Women repost stuff - show your boobs.
mentallydisturbedpanda
...w...t...f?
AaiRez
So what you're saying is.. Men should show their boobs too?
popoduff
Odie4Prez
Wow. I like this
MotionOfTheOcean
Is that serious?
HalifaxSamuels
I'm sick of this inequality. I want people to ask to see my boobs, too.
Daffodildoe
Show me your boobs
BrobiwanKenobro
fine
KiitoX
I mean, although maybe it's a trap...
koopaya
Show us your boobs
AFuckingBazooka
DO YOU REALISE WHAT YOU HAVE JUST DONE
TryingNotToComment
enough is enough, i've seen this image trillion times
Jabberwookiez
I don't care for most of it, but the bottom part with Dr. Evil gets me everytime. Fuckin' love it.
Texantioch
You still say "Groovy, Baby", don't you?
WhatRaySay
you bitter little weirdos just can't help yourselves, can you? anything to distract you from your own inadequacies and failures, eh? smh
ChloroFlouroCarbon
Guys, I found the feminist.
WhatRaySay
or just the grown-up anyway. how many of these things do you kids need to see on FP each day? we get it, women are bad and it's all unfair
ChloroFlouroCarbon
...Says the grown up who's getting melodramatic over a picture. Please stfu
WhatRaySay
ah yes, I remember when I was 15, things were so much simpler. this'll all make more sense as you mature a bit, these are big-people issues
ChloroFlouroCarbon
It's actually hilarious that your life is that pathetic that the above picture causes you this much sadness. Must get lonely?
ChloePrice
Say it with me kids, empathy is not finite. Suffering is not a competition.
choover25
"Empathy is not finite. Suffering is not a competition."
Thesavagehamster
I dunno. My empathy is very much finite. I try to work at it but seriously I get worn down. At the end of a long day I couldn't give a shit.
Thesavagehamster
of course, that's not to say I agree with anything in this post which is full of shit. Ah, a perfect example for my finite empathy!
blainetog
But, but, how am I supposed to win the Oppression Olympics if I don't prove that I have it worse off?
codelayer
LSUguy
Pretty sure a lot of these things about women are totally off and only a basic portrayal in your sexist mind.
LearnedCoward
Has the person who made this puddle of tepid diarrhea ever even seen a woman?
Hollyfkinwood
I have honestly never stared at a man's crotch. No wonder I never had dates in high school, I was flirting all wrong.
HonorablePenileDischarge
Nah, you were probably just ugly. Happens to a lot of people.
Hollyfkinwood
Well yeah, that too of course.
SerowordDave
When has a woman been called brave for hitting a man? When? Show me one headline
Zarconian
LORENA BOBBITT
UGotSarged
Yeah unless he was like attacking her or a puppy or something but mostly the puppy...
Mackdi
Like every time ever. lol especially if the man is considered "mean".
Thesmellofgoblins
I was thinking the same thing.
Zarconian
Miyuki Ishikawa
Thesmellofgoblins
She killed kids not men. And she's not called brave for it.
SciencemasterofGinaz
The film "The Brave One?" But, seriously, this is a shirt post.
LearnedCoward
I don't see any shirts
AnnieBahde
Isn't that like a revenge movie about child abduction a la Taken?
SciencemasterofGinaz
Shitty*
Zarconian
Joan of Arc
Taxicat
A) Joan of Arc was in the military. You might as well claim ALL soldiers are bad people for hitting the other side's soldiers. 1/
theChesCat
And she probably never existed.
Taxicat
Really?
Taxicat
B) She was a standard-bearer, not a regular soldier. She stayed on her horse, held the banners that helped inspire the troops and 2/
Taxicat
helped direct people around. False analogy. 3/
SwiftMustacheMan
To be fair, it was a joke.
MrGrumpyDownvote
Meninists can be as annoying as feminazis.
BohemianRhapDaddy
https://youtu.be/HUHsusbgwoU
rainbowunknown
But he's right and at least he wasn't sexist
zma123456
They both will make a perfect couple.
DefinetlyNotObsessed
Lean one way other side leans back, people have been doing this for centuries
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hakunamatatas
The amount of people who don't understand that is fucking hilarious.
Swoints
I think we triggered them
Tiskel
It may have started out as a joke, but like all joke movements, now has actual proponents and members.
thecrossthebridge
is it though? Everytime I check the comment section on this shit people take it preeeety serious
PresidentProTempore
This post is seriously a mess. Half of these just aren't true, "A woman staring at your crotch is just flirting" According to who????
DavosSeaworthTheOnionKnight
Ok, I have personally seen woman get away with far more open flirting then guys..stuff that guys would get the SARC called on then for 1/2
horrocj1
Agreed, most are utter nonsense, what is OP really complaining about?
Rifneno
You're a fool. Most of these are absolutely true. Lots of shit cops won't even arrested women for assaulting men.
parkanov
the WHORESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
DefinetlyNotObsessed
Most of these are true but there are problems facing both sides that are just as bad. If only we could get both annoying groups to stfu asap
DavosSeaworthTheOnionKnight
However, it's mainly because the majority of guys don't give a fuck. If they guys complained it might stop. 2/2
PresidentProTempore
I honestly think it would stop if the guy complained
Kycirion
Meninism isn't a real ideology. It's a parody of modern "Feminism." It's supposed to be annoying, and to point out Feminism's hypocrisy.
3rdEyeShut
Meninism is about testicular cancer awareness
Pristineus
They might need to resend the memo then. I'm not sure most of the members got it
chiplizard
And feminazis are not representative of actually feminism.
IPutAHexOnYou4c6f7665206d65
4. but when it comes to pranks and religion, they know the difference.
IPutAHexOnYou4c6f7665206d65
1. good luck convincing imgur of that. Stupid pranks? people rush to define what a prank really is. Bombing? people rush to define that
chiplizard
I've actually had a lot of great conversations about it and have gotten some information across
IPutAHexOnYou4c6f7665206d65
3. they do not care about the real definition because these people who are being misandrists claim to be feminists, thus this IS feminism
IPutAHexOnYou4c6f7665206d65
2. it is not done under islam/by muslims, that's not what the religion is about. Someone says "men are pigs"? that's feminism..
tarataqa
Then tell us the part of this post that is untrue.
kittenoffasteamboat
Who the fuck stares at your crotch to flirt with you?
tarataqa
3 women last week. Have you ever been to a dance club?
kittenoffasteamboat
Yeah. I have been to a "dance club." Believe it or not I go quite often to these "dance clubs" and I don't ogle at clothed crotches.
tarataqa
LMFAO I guess you're missing out then, huh
melodramaticbat
WTF Women can't just randomly kiss men and be considered romantic. Spontaneous intimacy is 100% circumstantial for both genders.
RainTheFirst
Yea but the rest are true and both are considered romantic
melodramaticbat
Eh the rest are superficially true but simplistic and over general and don't contribute to anything other than whiny armchair discourse.
RainTheFirst
dordiebob
All these are directly proportional to how "hot" she is. Hot? Can probably get away with it. Now picture a 300 lb 40 year old. Not so much.
DarthFutuza
Although usually you don't see the sexual harassment charges being filed for stuff like that, just people screaming and running far away.
giggitygawds
Yea, not romantic. But not rapey either.
Secsletariat
It's totally rapey. It's happened to me and it's disgusting. Plus you have to be oh-so-careful pushing them away or the white knights come
LearnedCoward
It really depends on a lot of things. If it's random strangers, it can be considered a lot of things, but romantic isn't high on the list.
kattahn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_kGkGUAKRw
melodramaticbat
One example proves absolutely nothing. Do you know what '100% circumstantial means'? This was almost definitely scripted too.
Migotchi
Since when is a girl staring at your crotch flirting? That would just creep me out.
LearnedCoward
Most of the time, any one staring at anyone else's [insert body part here] comes off as creepy.
subwayporno
Never once in any group of my female friends have we been like "did you check out the crotch on that guy?!" because it's not really a thing.
DiggerPlease
It's a thing. If a guy is hung (or unusually small) every girl in his social circle knows.
subwayporno
no. but no. I've had lots of guy friends in my circles and none of us (their female friends) assessed their dick size through their pants.
DiggerPlease
Ok but that's not my experience. I'm in Australia, maybe that's why.
spiderqueendemon
Being female, I generally catch myself staring at crotches when I am trying to think of a tactful way to mention their zipper is down.
NOINITIATIVE
I find "your zippers down." works 100% of the time
Mathdex
1/2 Fix your eyes on his with a sexy look, start aproaching slowly. Put both hands on his chest and slide them until you reach its crotch.
Mathdex
2/2 Then slowly close it's zipper and whisper on his ear: "you're welcome". Then leave like nothing happened.
itsfuckingcoldherealways
You stare my boobs, I stare your crotch. Both are creepy, not flirting, just curious
xanbcoo
It's not. This is a strawman argument
YourBuddyBill
gotta love how they always omit the panels from the original source depicting the other side of the inequality coin. Strawman at its finest.
VikingsAreNinjaPirates
When you're the 14 year old misogynist that keeps reposting this.
lordwank
Well maybe you shouldnt have your dick poking out of your zipper
thefuzziestnipplesever
Yeah stop asking for it
A3VUM
Jeez you sound like my mom
lordwank
Well thats funny, your mom tells me to do the exact opposite
SnackusShackus
Meh we take what we can get
buttcreambandit
Most of this is just the dobler/dahmer effect
NOINITIATIVE
it's not, they're just perverts like us; and in my experience they've probably done it already you just didn't notice 1/2
AndTheStoryGoes
I do it on accident. I don't even see anything so Idk why it happens...
NOINITIATIVE
I remember chatting with this cute Chinese exchange student, when my crush walked by and waved, so I got a bit of a unsoliceted boner 1/2
NOINITIATIVE
(rare, but it happens) and when I looked back the girl I was chatting with she's just staring at my crotch with laser beam focus. 2/2
NOINITIATIVE
3/2 I tried to break her gaze by acting like I was getting something out of my bag, fortunatly she smiled and asked if I wanted go to lunch
NOINITIATIVE
2/2 (a friend once told me she use to stare all the time, I never once noticed)
MotionOfTheOcean
As a lady: I don't think it is flirting though... Curiosity? Idk, I don't get why you'd do that. Unless teen ager. Teens are just stupid.
NOINITIATIVE
yeah that's why started off my comment with "it's not"
MotionOfTheOcean
Apparently I am a lady who cannot read 140 marks coherently. Perdon señor((it)a)!
NOINITIATIVE
wow downvotes, look this is just from personal experience and conversations i've had with women, sorry that shook your little world
gravyandfries
My little world is falling apart because of this! It didnt just shake it, it destroyed it! Just here to agree with you actually.
DiggerPlease
I like it
DiggerPlease
What's wrong with liking a woman checking you out? They usually only look there if they already like what they see, so compliment.
LastNightIThoughtItWasAGoodIdea
Buthurt virgins... again.
zma123456
As a male I honestly give zero fucks about these "issues". Also beating of both genders is not right. Most females have to deal with more 1?
Rapp44
Of course generalizations ate always accurate and never damaging...
LaBix
As a European white straight male who isn't ginger or overweight. I have to say my life has been pretty chill, beyond a lack of money.
IStudyMagic
As a ginger American white straight male, same but I consider myself a staunch feminist too. The real feminism tho.
DiamondDoge
It's mainly an American poblem chap, they can't seem to fix the easiest problems
LearnedCoward
As an American, none of this stuff ever happened to me, and I'm the kind of person this shit happens to.
fearandloathebananas
More or less the same as you, my life has been pure shit, and a lack of money.
IdidnotgetthenameIwanted
As a european white straight female I can say that me and the people around are pretty chill, too.
FraudulentPepsi
If you had boobs you'd have money too
Brian0fNazareth
As a white straight Macedonian alpha male i don't want women going in the male toilet, that is our man place, where i can fart and not care!
MrSundgren
When has being a ginger been a issue? I'm one and i haven't had any issues because of it
iamOzymandiasLookOnMyWorksDumbassAndDespair
It's more of a joke in Europe.
gnyff
Well, crap. I'm european, ginger and overweight ;)
CMcAwesomeville
Epic comment. But I have to aggree!
tornadosandwich
What's wrong with being ginger lol?
Quipman
They have no souls -> http://imgur.com/8Blxbnj
robohouse54
As a ginger, that's a damn good point.
pawdraig
Irish, male and surprising not ginger. It's great, very little sexism and no white guilt here either.
Hotbeebop
As an American straight male not ginger overweight, agreed
RyeInACan
but as soon as you're a Canadian straight white brown haired overweight man, ooooh, hell doeth open its doors for thee.
RollingStoner62
why the fuck does ginger have to be brought up lol
Flippinballz
I dont think being american is a sign of good living enviroment anymore, i actually feel sorry for you having to live there.
theysaidtherewouldbecats
As a female belonging to the LGBTQ community and studying in STEM, I have faced no social adversity at all. Goes both ways.
fencerman
Hate to say it, but wait until you hit the job market.
theysaidtherewouldbecats
I've had two internships at national labs and am going to grad school in a top ten school, I can't imagine having too much of a problem...
fencerman
That's good. It's all averages, and it depends a lot on what letter of "STEM" you're in. Sciences are less bad than engineering for women.
theysaidtherewouldbecats
Chemical Engineering haha, and yeah I see your point though...
LadyofLifting
Same, and I'm even a ginger.
YamatoIouko
Because everyone is clearly you.
bringusashrubbery
as an American white straight female: Other than one instance my life has been pretty chill and I live to be equal and independent
CoRektiveAction
It's not too bad if you communicate clearly. "Oops wrong bathroom" "your tits are like my sister's" "shouting isn't solving anything" etc.
scooterific
As a black Texan, my life has been about the same
YodaTheWise
Fellow black Texan, and my life has been pretty chill.
Hotbeebop
Yay!
Mykeyboy
Isn't that a cocktail?
BritainsNuttiestGuy
As a person who fits your description to a T, I agree
HaYouForgotTheSubjunctive
I'm slightly ginger and I agree. I'm just this side of brunet.
ItsJustRocketScience
It's pretty awesome, right?
pinekyne
What is wrong with being a ginger!?!?!?
boombanana
Gingers have no souls.
delpharseven
Alright, the regular 'men are the real victims' circlejerk. Does this mean the political shitpost-storm has passed? It is safe to come out?
Rifneno
It is at least more based in reality than your feminazi daisychains.
raytadd24
Nah, it's getting even worse out here
delpharseven
Back to /r/puppies then.
MoodyOfNorway
ecodude
Saving this one!
ZVanderberg
This is amazing.
DiggerPlease
This site is full of dudes complaining that they are lonely and never get laid. These views are why women find you repellant.
wdasm42
I am a man and I find them repellant as well
octopussua
Even gay men's rights activists get no love
Pornismyrelgion
We have more sense than that.
Felman
It wasn't always this way. Back in the days, most of us came here to laugh. Then "They" invaded. That's when the sexism and racism started.
AFuckingBazooka
I'm more interested in reading about the cases that favor women in other countries. With the whole custody issue, equality will never happen
AnnieBahde
Do you know WHY women get custody more than men? Because women are more likely to ask for it in the first place. You can't prove bias
AnnieBahde
do seek custody they are likely to get awarded joint or sole custody. In fact, sometimes at higher rates than women depending on income.
AnnieBahde
unless you prove that when men are equally qualified for custody and ask for it, they get denied custody at higher rates. In fact, when men
MotionOfTheOcean
Real issues exist, yeah. But they can be brought up without shitting on others while doing so or building on us vs. them mentality.
LearnedCoward
Real issues exist, but this post doesn't address any of them. Not a one.
Falaphel
Feminism wants to fix this too....
Awsamanam
Bahahahaha
JD10001
True feminists sure. But every true feminist would also be an MRA and vice versa. But no one really is a "true" feminist/MRA.
JD10001
ie: People are fallible humans.
FwdReRe
Seemingly only on the side when you ask about it and even then they argue that such things only happen because women are seen as lesser.
FwdReRe
It's a very biased view. So biased that some people even argue that women getting the default child custody was due to a patriarchal system.
hakunamatatas
It is a twisted view that somehow blames literally everything on men or typically male characteristics.
Cyandvai
2nd and 4th wave maybe. 3rd wave are the ones that everyone hates.
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pootsbag
*Made up imgur view of feminism that is actually a small minority
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kittenoffasteamboat
Yawn. The feminist movement is dominated by workers setting up resources around you like clinics, shelters, & family planning resources
kittenoffasteamboat
Just because you don't see it because you're stuck in your online forums doesn't mean that it's "dominated by crazy women" 2
Pristineus
Strawmen arguments aren't quite the same thing as what you're referring to
Rifneno
Goddamn I'm sick of this lie.
pootsbag
Lie?
Rifneno
Feminists are out there fighting solely for pro-female causes, but if you mention that on imgur, the neckbeards cry "NO WE FITE 4 EQUALITY"
pootsbag
First issue that comes to mind is 'fighting for un gendered sections in toyshops'. Girls and boys don't feel pushed to follow a certain role
pootsbag
Or pushing for feminine words and hobbies to be seen as positive and worthy, so all genders can show emotions and have varied interests.
pootsbag
Or the fight to be seen as equal in the workplace, means men don't feel as pressured to be providers. One of ye reasons for male suicide.
pootsbag
Wanting parental responsibilities to be equal - maternity and paternity leave to be the same.
pootsbag
Basically. Get your head out of your ass and see the wider picture.
redjuice71
Egalitarians want to fix this.
teuro
You spelled feminists wrong.
kittenoffasteamboat
Both can want to fix it. Not to bash egalitarians but unlike feminists most of them are armchair observers and do not have connections 1
kittenoffasteamboat
to actual physical protest/demonstration/volunteer groups to make society more equal, whereas feminist organizations are physically 2
kittenoffasteamboat
I can go apply for funding through feminist organizations around me to stage a demonstration. Unfortunately egalitarianism as a movement 4
kittenoffasteamboat
has played a lot bigger role in being an online "trump card" against feminism than making physical changes in real life. 5
kittenoffasteamboat
much more accessible. For example, I can walk down the street right now to a feminist clinic for youth family planning services. 3
professorsquid
Egalitarianism isn't a real movement. It's a nice thing people believe when they want to be completely neutral on something.
BeatsBearsBattlestarGallactica
It's a nice thing to say when you want to do absolutely nothing and feel superior about it.
DaftBrian
wanting to be neutral? THE HORROR
CaptainShutTheFuckUp
Why you would be neutral on sexism? That's fucked up.
DeLaRuuu
'Cause the lines of what is sexism and what is not is sometimes unclear, and the arguments from both sides can be devious at best.
DeLaRuuu
Basically, if I call something sexist and come up with absurd reasons why it's sexist, should you have to agree with me?
Naiirita
Not according any official feminist demands i have heard.
IdiotMcNoobtard
Official feminist demands from the Official Feminist Bureau of Demands
wodkaknockers
What about payed paternal leave? Criticism on traditional gender roles? Fighting for acceptance of gays and queers? Watch the fucking news
Naiirita
I do watch the news, havent heard them say anything about paid paternal leave.
wodkaknockers
Allright, to be fair, I'm talking about German news. But German feminists are feminists too, so your generalization is just wrong
Naiirita
If a majority of american feminist adhere to it its not a generalization.
raytadd24
Soooo then you haven't been looking at the right stuff, probably on purpose
Naiirita
I just know what they put out.
raytadd24
That's a narrow point of view, but hey, it's your life
OverwhelmingNeedForSources
What feminist literature do you read?
Naiirita
The news.
kittenoffasteamboat
Clinics? Teen STD and pregnancy testing? Accessible birth control and contraception? Shelters for abuse victims? That's what they put out.
Naiirita
... and that all men are rapist.
JapaneseStudentTadashii
This post is utter bullshit. Women stare at your crotch and that's flirting? Wtf
IPutAHexOnYou4c6f7665206d65
i didn't know that was a way i could flirt with guys... and here i am.. just trying to talk to them like an idiot all this time...
MotionOfTheOcean
Completely unrelated: Wonderful username. O_O And I was not disappointed to check deeper either!
IPutAHexOnYou4c6f7665206d65
aww you got it!! \o/ It's rare that someone gets it =D
LearnedCoward
That thing at the end is a hex code, but what does it mean?
IPutAHexOnYou4c6f7665206d65
"love me", like.. the song "i put a spell on you", but i did it with a hex.. and the hex is to love me.. get it? love spell.. hex spell..
IPutAHexOnYou4c6f7665206d65
2. i'm not terribly good at this.. but i amused myself with it xD
BlitzThunderWolf
There's not much to look at anyway...
AnnieBahde
Are they super tight pants and I can clearly see a dick bulge? In that case it's probably a WTF can't look away stare like when women have
AnnieBahde
super pronounced camel toes. It's more just a fascinated "what in the world are they wearing and don't they realize..." kinda stare.
AnnieBahde
I don't know if you meant this jokingly but really, there's not much to look at. What am I looking at? Where your pants come together?
BlitzThunderWolf
I was doing a self-burn implying that I don't have much of a package to stare at...
jeffreybaratheon
If one of your worst complaints is that you can't stare at a chick's boobs or walk into a women's bathroom, your life is pretty good.
codevii
Don't forget that he can't hit women, that really has him down apparently..
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jeffreybaratheon
And my point is that if these examples are trying to show that men have it just as bad/worse, they're terrible examples.
ElSephiroth
at some point the guy goes to prison and the girl doesn t. His life isn t as good as you say ^^
sumowoman
At some point the guy becomes a CEO and the girl doesn't. He has no idea how lucky he is to be a guy.
ElSephiroth
Sure, because there are absolutly no women CEO ... plz check before.
MotionOfTheOcean
For staring boobs? Really no, that hasn't happened once. Even groping, gets you only fined.
ElSephiroth
it s a metaphorical drawing, not a video.
MotionOfTheOcean
Women get convicted for sex crimes here too. (I suppose we are in different countries?) But agreed the laws are not perfect on so many 1/2
MotionOfTheOcean
levels. My gripe with the post is it's angriness and us vs. them idealism. 2/2
ghsdkgb
Yeah you really lose credibility when your first complaint is about not being able to hit women
Texantioch
which is ALWAYS WHAT THESE GODDAMNED DICKTIPS BRING UP.
ElSephiroth
it should not be easy to defend a wrong idea. It s about aknowledging that women can hit men and get out of it freely.
MotionOfTheOcean
Really I am for awareness of physical abuse and violence men experience. Just I haven't seen a woman called brave, for doing such.
ElSephiroth
sure, i just said they were going out of it freely...
MotionOfTheOcean
Ah okay... I think (not always) often it might be the stigma of male victims not wanting to bring it up. 1/2
pgdave
There is a difference in effect though. Men and women are victims in similar rates, but women receive far worse injuries and deaths.
ElSephiroth
I don t know about that, maybe, maybe not. I need more datas. My point is just that they get out of it with less difficulty.
pgdave
It's the data I was looking at - "Male violence produces injury at roughly six times the rate of female violence"
pgdave
"Women are also more likely to be killed by their male partners than the reverse (84% of spousal murder victims are female)"
pgdave
In other words, women are roughly as prone to violence as men but are significantly less dangerous.
AnnieBahde
Also hitting is wrong period. Who calls women who abuse men brave? The only scenario is when women fight back attackers. And in that case
AnnieBahde
freaking anyone is brave for fighting of an assault.
octopussua
This is true. Those anti-bully videos go viral all the time
EnigmaRequiem
In some cases a man could be (and have been) demonized for fighting off assault by a woman, but it's still not a very good example.
octopussua
I would like to see the example you're referring to
AnnieBahde
practically anything. The point is hitting is wrong period. Violence is not the appropriate response to most anything outside self defense.
AnnieBahde
Yes well same goes for a woman. The man was old, she was young. The man was disabled, she wasn't etc. You can think of hypotheticals for
HonorablePenileDischarge
Ray Rice wasn't.
AnnieBahde
From the video it looks like she smacks at him, he hits her, she comes back at him, he lays her out. So.. neither is really a pure victim
AnnieBahde
granted, elevator makes difficult. This appeared to be an argument that got physical and then escalated fast. No, he wasn't brave.
AnnieBahde
should she have smacked him. NO. Should he have laid her out. um, no. Should each one walked away and not resorted to physical violence? YES
LeaderBeans
And you know the situation won't come up for 90%, but it's like it's a fantasy for them to be attacked by a woman so they can "fight back".
Secsletariat
① This actually has happened to me, though. Despite loudly shouting at her to leave me alone, drunk girl kept trying to kiss/grope/grab/hit
Secsletariat
② me when I was walking home once. I assume she thought I was someone else. Nobody intervened until she tripped over when I tried to walk
Secsletariat
④ shitposts; I didn't want an excuse to hit her or anything like that. But, y'know, there is a pretty clear double standard there.
Secsletariat
③ away while removing her grip on me, and then it was people angry at me. The incident itself does not excuse these generally misogynistic
Secsletariat
⑤ Literally nobody cared that a borderline sexual assault was happening until *she* hurt herself.
LeaderBeans
Oh, absolutely. You were defending yourself, and that's a totally legit reason. I know there's that double standard when a guy has to 1/
Potatopeelerkind
Both men and women are negatively affected by sexism. Can we please stop getting these posts thinking [X] side has it the worst off?
IWantACleverUsernameToo
did you see the lovely post about how men have been "winning" for the last 10,000 years and therefore women/feminists are "losing"? fave
jrkib8
Agreed, and in addition, equality has come a long way on both sides and neither the male nor female depiction above is the 100% norm anymore
tarataqa
Are you new to the Internet??
Dongblaster9000
Two equal sides fighting over a passionately misconceived basic principle of not treating each other poorly?
aboxacaraflatafan
CAREEN GAY!
mieuu
its a contest and contests are for winning
Rifneno
He never said they have things worse. That's your own poor interpretation.
zma123456
Exactly. Some things one sex has it worst. And some thing the other has it worst.
YamatoIouko
Where does this say men have it worse?
wenko
The thing is men have it better for some things, women have it better for others. You just won't hear that second part from a feminist.
SoniqueTui
This post tells me I'm a female meninist. ;/ I hate it when guys force help on me, also.. like I am inept. I'm glad most don't.
EdgeGod
I feel like this is in response to modern feminism, saying "mem have it bad too", not "men have it worse". That said, it is exaggerated.
Wastyvez
Both genders are victims of gender roles, but men are rarely victim of gender-based discrimination (or worse) like women are.
jimmyriba
3/ Women are allowed to feel and show emotions. An emotional ("weak") man will be bullied by men, and shunned as romantic interest by women.
ElSephiroth
Both have it bad for very different reasons. Both are victims of discriminations. But at least we have it better than in some countries...
SolitaireUnraveling
As a woman, I disagree, but as an American, I accept people's right to be wrong.
jimmyriba
Hmm.. 90% of civilian casualties in war are men and boys, but infographics depict civilian deaths as "woman carrying child".
jimmyriba
6/ A boy is only afforded protection and care when he is small. Once boys turn into men, they are no longer protected, although they 1/2
jimmyriba
2/2 run the overwhelming greatest risks: of assault, of death in the work place, of death in conflict, and of suicide.
Ansatsunin
That is utter horseshit. Women get discriminated directly due to their gender - men indirectly, in how they're perceived.
jimmyriba
2/ Women victims of domestic abuse are legally afforded help, but men are not. (At least in Denmark, where I live)
jimmyriba
5/ Men are the majority of victims of violence, but the focus is on protecting women and small children (I don't disagree with this, btw.)
Aslatra
I just registered for this comment and I'm pissed for having to do so. There are a huge number of legal advantages women have on men 1/?
Aslatra
including the prevalence of women's shelters dispite CDC studies showing men are abused as often, the alteration of the definition of 2/?
Aslatra
The Duluth model for domestic violence reponse is entirely disgusting toward men. DO NOT paint the picture in broad strokes. It's all bad.
MrMasked
Im not sure who downvoted you but +1 my friend for speaking truth
Aslatra
If I were to take guesses... But if I get downvoted for saying stuff like that, tanking my score from the start line is worth.
Aslatra
rape to dis-include 'made to penetrate', lighter sentences on crimes, or bodily integrity in the face of genital mutilation. 3/?
Wastyvez
But to suggest that men have it worse than women, even in our industrialised world, is merely being blind to the facts.
Ansatsunin
Worse? That all depends on the specific situation you're referring to. In legal matters, fuck yes men have a shit deal comparatively.
Wastyvez
Which is why I'm not a big proponent of feminism. We need a movement that inclusively advocates the rights of all genders, not just women.
Aslatra
I would like for someone to show me a legal right men have that women don't. But at least you acknowledge the issue is on both sides.
MotionOfTheOcean
I full heartedly agree. Albeit I believe feminism can do that too and as feminist try to voice myself for male issues as well.
jimmyriba
4/ Men in Western countries are less likely to receive custody of their children after divorce.
Ansatsunin
Depending on how the woman plays it, she can lie and manipulate her way into getting full custody quite easily, even.
GetBerserked
try working in a kindergarden or something like that, then come again.
jimmyriba
2/2 kindergartens, where male staff is not allowed to change diapers... you know, in case they're pedophiles!
jimmyriba
Don't know why you're being downvoted. Men who work in kindergartens are clearly discriminated against for being men. In DK, we've had 1/2
Wastyvez
Yeah.. this is an example of gender roles.
GetBerserked
Well, i worked as a kindergardener and made some bad expiriences concerning sexism, so i might be biased. Its prolly not bad in general.
jimmyriba
7/ I won't get into oppression olympics about who has it worse, men or women, but it's ridiculous to say men aren't discriminated against.
MotionOfTheOcean
I don't think the comment meant that, but wanted to state the image joins those Olympics. But yeah, all you commented are serious issues. :(
jimmyriba
I totally agree. I think OP's image is annoying, skewed, and has little to do with reality. And it's definitely competing for Olympic gold!
jimmyriba
3/3 and because of that, the only way men are hurt by gender roles is through disguised oppression of women as "Patriarchy Hurts Men Too".
jimmyriba
2/3 I only took issue with the common meme: That men are never suffer gender-based discrimination, because we are inherently priviledged,
jimmyriba
4/4 I think men and women are privileged and disprivileged in different ways, and attempting a hierarchy is misguided. I guess you agree. :)
MotionOfTheOcean
Yes, yes. Definitely :)