Apr 4, 2022 9:59 PM
TimMyth
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we all know they won't have actually read the study.
Revrot
Now imagine watching Russia's 'Channel 1'
numnumz
Rupert Murdoch needs a serious fucking investigation
BootsDusty
Drunktinyoctupuswantstofight
Australia does have our national broadcaster (ABC )which is very respected and left leaning and helps dilute Murdoch’s evil empire somewhat
VictusVonGuyver
Putting them on a diet of BBC news would do the same thing.
SpamYarBlockers
It works both ways. Watching fox for 30 days straight radicalizes previously middle of the road viewers
thelastboomer
Carry a universal remote and change the channel on every public TV that you can.
trippingthelightfantastic
https://www.businessinsider.com/study-watching-fox-news-makes-you-less-informed-than-watching-no-news-at-all-2012-5?r=US&IR=T
spunkynuggets
Overall, this is a good article. But I don't think the numbers support the argument that MSNBC and CNN are as bad as Fox. Both sides my butt
superbest
I want to favorite this comment
B4DF15H2
It' almost as if Ruper Murdoch can program the lowest minds with flashin glights.
Brhino
Your BEST defense here is "I guess me and all my MAGA buddies are really easily brainwashed". Cool.
otomesound
Just show them MSNBC or CNN with the fox banner at the bottom, see what happens.
Fatloudorangecat
Of course the flipside is likely true. All those folks radicallized after watching Fox news or TikTok for 30 days.
Iblamemyparentstoo
If you're going to post the headline post the damn link...
TheMightyMoto
Neat
TCGView
Just stepping out of your bubble can do a massive amount of good. Talk to and meet people from different places. Your worldview will change.
skapanda616
YangKoete
If you can - do it. https://unfoxmycablebox.com/
ItsSebee
What did they morph into exactly? This is worrisome. Can they still be recognized as humans?
GoodBrotherGrimm
What do you mean "still"?
Redyls
obviously. sad that this has to be said. NO ONE IS IMMUNE TO PROPAGANDA! listen to more than your echo chambers and favorite channels.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/fox-news-cnn-partisan-media-study-b2050240.html
feren
They "transformed" by catching fire and having their faces melt ala "Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark" because facts hurt them.
aphexz
Lucky for them they picked CNN then, not much danger in encountering facts there. Just taking people from one biased trashcan to another.
alcaray
Nonsense. https://www.cnn.com/
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
CNN is far from perfect but there is literally nothing on fox but lies and propaganda. Nothing. They are vermin.
I don't disagree, but the proper approach isn't feeding people a different flavor of misinformation. Every lie printed on either side just
reinforces the opposing corner that everything they disagree with is "fake news."
Understandable
rosebudthesled
Almost as if FOX was shut down permanently and all employees were black balled from media employment it would help America.
VosperOfAntarctica
I wish. At this point it has metastasized to other outlets. it's victims would find a way to mainline a similar flavor of garbage elsewhere
CapitalNick
OAN, Newmax, Breitbart.....
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
Stormfront is still chilling somehow.
RavianGale
OAN got shut down.
Zange0
They got dropped from DirecTV; Not dead, but severely injured. Let's hope they don't recover.
EroticZombiePants
It's as if having more than one news source will allow you to think more.
alcamar
Even if they could read the report, they wouldn't watch CNN, everything said goes against what they "know"
wormfood
I've been side-eyed pretty hard for watching CNN in one house, even though it was just a documentary on Muhammad Ali. They changed channels.
jetact12
We need to start a CLASS ACTION SUIT against fox.
thepriceisleft6
Imagine if they could read.
Kateness
There's also something to be said for being so easily swayed by media that you will flip your whole world view depending on what TV channel
Chefpnut
Ah yes. When I switched from Playboy channel to Adam & Eve channel.
BobbityRoss
Yeah, I'd be curious to see the opinions of CNN viewers after a month of Fox
It turns out that is exactly how fascists have been operating for the last century+ as they know how to do it, and do it effectively.
KingORedLions
*Everyone* is this easily swayed. Your world view is only as accurate as the information you get to inform it with.
MoistenedPenguin
Nah, not everyone is that easily swayed. Just enough that it's a problem.
tacticalattackterriers
Yes and no. Some people change opinions constantly, regardless of veracity, some people refuse to budge, despite repeated challenging info.
you watch.
no one is immune from propaganda.
TheMayorOfTittyCity
CNN is not in the same league of terrible as Fox, but its still primarily editorial. Why not NPR or something more objective/investigative.
MealOnLegs
Probably because it's closer to Fox then actual informed news. Even baseless sensationalism and 'both sides' is better then Fox
The people who Fox News appeals to rely on that emotional appeal of editorial comments in order to feel it's "worth" considering/arguing.
More plain-fact news probably just kind of gets glossed over by them, rather than processed. It would be interesting to see the difference.
BlindGibberer
Im like 98% certain that we would see something similar if CNN viewers started watching fox 7 hours a day, anecdotally we already see it->
its not hard to find people complain that their parents/grandparents changed after they started watching fox/OAN
heimeyer72
(have an upvote for the username.)
True, but how many of them were watching intentionally left-leaning commentary like CNN before, and how many just had background cable news?
This seems more like "hey, let's see what happens if people consciously choose to watch information conflicting with their beliefs", and...
...less "hey, let's take this passively neutral-to-conservative person and newly expose them to extreme twists on information."
LordJebusVII
Within weeks of my left-leaning mum joining Facebook she started getting paranoid about Muslims gaining power
ragekritz
my mom grew so afraid of a random muslim friend request on facebook that she "called mark zuckerburg" by looking him up on google- 1/2
a very nice indian man said he'd wipe her IP for 200 bucks. So no terrorists could kill her or her family.
macandcheese21
SmellingMistake
Why do you think Republicans are so terrified of information and knowledge?
Anju42
Step 1: grew up in culture that bullied smart people. Step 2: Fox News told them schools are brainwashing people to be liberal.
IhopeyougetstageIIIcoloncancer
Well that's a dumb question. It's obviously because information and knowledge are communism, and also part of the liberal gay agenda. Duh.
AlwaysInTheshadows
People are always afraid of what they don't understand. And these people don't understand anything because they're stupid.
SassyAssSlap
A significant percentage knows they were wrong about many things but admitting it is something they will never be able to do.
imyourrealdad
The truth is at odds with their entire worldview.
WTFantastico
Scapegoating is very comfortable, and unstable people use it as a loadbearing coping mechanism, getting very defensive when it's challenged?
boatlife4me
Their ideas are outdated and have no place in our evolving society so the only way to hold on is to discredit facts and truth
choicebutts2
Because Russia told them to be.
Their fear of knowledge predates Putin's buyout.
celestedrake
Psychology makes attacks on ideas feel like physical attacks because caveman brain does not register ideological attacks separately. So (1)
basically challenging their opinion seems like a big predator, and reality is skewed away from Republican ideas, so...information is that.(2
jimmythehat1
Dunning Kruger effect. They've made republicanism their whole identity, and to say they're wrong is to call their identity into crisis
Taintburger
I thought the Dunning Kruger effect was when U suck but think U good, then when U better U think U suck. although sounds related.
Close. Dunning Kruger is you suck but think you’re good and if someone challenges you, you dig deeper and think you’re good & they suck
There’s not really a getting better component to dunning Kruger. Education is the progressive realization of your own ignorance. Ideally the
More you know, the more you realize there is so much more you don’t know.
Revrot
Now imagine watching Russia's 'Channel 1'
numnumz
Rupert Murdoch needs a serious fucking investigation
BootsDusty
Drunktinyoctupuswantstofight
Australia does have our national broadcaster (ABC )which is very respected and left leaning and helps dilute Murdoch’s evil empire somewhat
VictusVonGuyver
Putting them on a diet of BBC news would do the same thing.
SpamYarBlockers
It works both ways. Watching fox for 30 days straight radicalizes previously middle of the road viewers
thelastboomer
Carry a universal remote and change the channel on every public TV that you can.
trippingthelightfantastic
https://www.businessinsider.com/study-watching-fox-news-makes-you-less-informed-than-watching-no-news-at-all-2012-5?r=US&IR=T
spunkynuggets
Overall, this is a good article. But I don't think the numbers support the argument that MSNBC and CNN are as bad as Fox. Both sides my butt
superbest
I want to favorite this comment
B4DF15H2
It' almost as if Ruper Murdoch can program the lowest minds with flashin glights.
Brhino
Your BEST defense here is "I guess me and all my MAGA buddies are really easily brainwashed". Cool.
otomesound
Just show them MSNBC or CNN with the fox banner at the bottom, see what happens.
Fatloudorangecat
Of course the flipside is likely true. All those folks radicallized after watching Fox news or TikTok for 30 days.
Iblamemyparentstoo
If you're going to post the headline post the damn link...
TheMightyMoto
Neat
TCGView
Just stepping out of your bubble can do a massive amount of good. Talk to and meet people from different places. Your worldview will change.
skapanda616
YangKoete
If you can - do it. https://unfoxmycablebox.com/
ItsSebee
What did they morph into exactly? This is worrisome. Can they still be recognized as humans?
GoodBrotherGrimm
What do you mean "still"?
Redyls
obviously. sad that this has to be said. NO ONE IS IMMUNE TO PROPAGANDA! listen to more than your echo chambers and favorite channels.
Iblamemyparentstoo
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/fox-news-cnn-partisan-media-study-b2050240.html
feren
They "transformed" by catching fire and having their faces melt ala "Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark" because facts hurt them.
aphexz
Lucky for them they picked CNN then, not much danger in encountering facts there. Just taking people from one biased trashcan to another.
alcaray
Nonsense. https://www.cnn.com/
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
CNN is far from perfect but there is literally nothing on fox but lies and propaganda. Nothing. They are vermin.
aphexz
I don't disagree, but the proper approach isn't feeding people a different flavor of misinformation. Every lie printed on either side just
aphexz
reinforces the opposing corner that everything they disagree with is "fake news."
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Understandable
rosebudthesled
Almost as if FOX was shut down permanently and all employees were black balled from media employment it would help America.
VosperOfAntarctica
I wish. At this point it has metastasized to other outlets. it's victims would find a way to mainline a similar flavor of garbage elsewhere
CapitalNick
OAN, Newmax, Breitbart.....
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
Stormfront is still chilling somehow.
RavianGale
OAN got shut down.
Zange0
They got dropped from DirecTV; Not dead, but severely injured. Let's hope they don't recover.
EroticZombiePants
It's as if having more than one news source will allow you to think more.
alcamar
Even if they could read the report, they wouldn't watch CNN, everything said goes against what they "know"
wormfood
I've been side-eyed pretty hard for watching CNN in one house, even though it was just a documentary on Muhammad Ali. They changed channels.
jetact12
We need to start a CLASS ACTION SUIT against fox.
thepriceisleft6
Imagine if they could read.
Kateness
There's also something to be said for being so easily swayed by media that you will flip your whole world view depending on what TV channel
Chefpnut
Ah yes. When I switched from Playboy channel to Adam & Eve channel.
BobbityRoss
Yeah, I'd be curious to see the opinions of CNN viewers after a month of Fox
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
It turns out that is exactly how fascists have been operating for the last century+ as they know how to do it, and do it effectively.
KingORedLions
*Everyone* is this easily swayed. Your world view is only as accurate as the information you get to inform it with.
MoistenedPenguin
Nah, not everyone is that easily swayed. Just enough that it's a problem.
tacticalattackterriers
Yes and no. Some people change opinions constantly, regardless of veracity, some people refuse to budge, despite repeated challenging info.
Kateness
you watch.
Redyls
no one is immune from propaganda.
TheMayorOfTittyCity
CNN is not in the same league of terrible as Fox, but its still primarily editorial. Why not NPR or something more objective/investigative.
MealOnLegs
Probably because it's closer to Fox then actual informed news. Even baseless sensationalism and 'both sides' is better then Fox
tacticalattackterriers
The people who Fox News appeals to rely on that emotional appeal of editorial comments in order to feel it's "worth" considering/arguing.
tacticalattackterriers
More plain-fact news probably just kind of gets glossed over by them, rather than processed. It would be interesting to see the difference.
BlindGibberer
Im like 98% certain that we would see something similar if CNN viewers started watching fox 7 hours a day, anecdotally we already see it->
BlindGibberer
its not hard to find people complain that their parents/grandparents changed after they started watching fox/OAN
heimeyer72
(have an upvote for the username.)
tacticalattackterriers
True, but how many of them were watching intentionally left-leaning commentary like CNN before, and how many just had background cable news?
tacticalattackterriers
This seems more like "hey, let's see what happens if people consciously choose to watch information conflicting with their beliefs", and...
tacticalattackterriers
...less "hey, let's take this passively neutral-to-conservative person and newly expose them to extreme twists on information."
LordJebusVII
Within weeks of my left-leaning mum joining Facebook she started getting paranoid about Muslims gaining power
ragekritz
my mom grew so afraid of a random muslim friend request on facebook that she "called mark zuckerburg" by looking him up on google- 1/2
ragekritz
a very nice indian man said he'd wipe her IP for 200 bucks. So no terrorists could kill her or her family.
macandcheese21
SmellingMistake
Why do you think Republicans are so terrified of information and knowledge?
Anju42
Step 1: grew up in culture that bullied smart people. Step 2: Fox News told them schools are brainwashing people to be liberal.
IhopeyougetstageIIIcoloncancer
Well that's a dumb question. It's obviously because information and knowledge are communism, and also part of the liberal gay agenda. Duh.
AlwaysInTheshadows
People are always afraid of what they don't understand. And these people don't understand anything because they're stupid.
SassyAssSlap
A significant percentage knows they were wrong about many things but admitting it is something they will never be able to do.
imyourrealdad
The truth is at odds with their entire worldview.
WTFantastico
Scapegoating is very comfortable, and unstable people use it as a loadbearing coping mechanism, getting very defensive when it's challenged?
boatlife4me
Their ideas are outdated and have no place in our evolving society so the only way to hold on is to discredit facts and truth
choicebutts2
Because Russia told them to be.
SmellingMistake
Their fear of knowledge predates Putin's buyout.
celestedrake
Psychology makes attacks on ideas feel like physical attacks because caveman brain does not register ideological attacks separately. So (1)
celestedrake
basically challenging their opinion seems like a big predator, and reality is skewed away from Republican ideas, so...information is that.(2
jimmythehat1
Dunning Kruger effect. They've made republicanism their whole identity, and to say they're wrong is to call their identity into crisis
Taintburger
I thought the Dunning Kruger effect was when U suck but think U good, then when U better U think U suck. although sounds related.
SmellingMistake
jimmythehat1
Close. Dunning Kruger is you suck but think you’re good and if someone challenges you, you dig deeper and think you’re good & they suck
jimmythehat1
There’s not really a getting better component to dunning Kruger. Education is the progressive realization of your own ignorance. Ideally the
jimmythehat1
More you know, the more you realize there is so much more you don’t know.