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BlueLanternBraxx
The students at my school get free breakfast. Lunch they are on their own, but if they have nothing, we will give them breakfast stuff.
michaeldkolesnik2018
Schools are getting more money now than ever before. probably ~10% goes to actual student related.
normalizebeingalone
That must be exactly why there is a teacher shortage and there have been strikes! All that money we are keeping for ourselves. /S
MeAndMyADD
When I was a prisoner, I absolutely did NOT get 3 hot meals a day but... I guess that ain't what this is really about heh?
The502nd
Where I work, unless we're on lockdown every offender gets three hot meals.
SmugandFurry
When I was in Corrections, every got three hots, unless they came in after the kitchen was closed, then they got a bagged meal.
Idontevenwanttosignupjustletmelurk
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2017/12/prison-food-sickness-america/549179/
https://people.howstuffworks.com/prison-food.htm
ourari
So what you're saying is, they are actually doing the kids a favor by not feeding them? (To be clear: This is not a serious comment.)
If you make the well-being of your citizens a profitable enterprise, profits will inevitably come before the well being of the citizens.
Also just feed the kids to the inmates. Two birds one BBQ
OMFGWhatHaveWeDONE
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drakewarnock
Nordenfeldt
So, are you really this much of a cunt, or is trolling for attention the only way you can gain any validation in your sad life?
ZachNanamus
Walmart aides its workers to get on food stamps. Having a job does not mean you’re not poor. Having a job does not mean you’re not starving
ragekritz
I'm assuming this is a joke
FiftyShadesOfMascarpone
Well, this username certainly checks out.
storebrandproductmascot
It's like in the parable of the Good Samaritan where he kicks the traveler in the face and tells him to go back to his own people.
Or the one where the Christian neighbor comes asking for help, so you take away their children and lock them in cages.
SecretlyASiberianHusky
I mean, heaven has a pretty strong vetting policy.
It's simple: Ask for forgiveness.
nutmegwolf
My old school district is making breakfast and lunches free next year. Bit by bit it can get better.
Scratch that. It was free starting this school year.
SnugglesaurusRex
One of the many reasons the Republican party should be voted out of existence. This kind of sadistic bullshit has no place in society.
JPRedonky
Wrong, the actual Republican Party is fine, it’s what freed the U.S. what we have today are not republicans
The 'actual' republican party is the one that exists. Its the one you can go out and vote for. Maybe in the past they werent all assholes 1/
2/ but we can't vote for any of them and they're ideas do not influence the current crop of people who ARE assholes.
That1guyfromKC
Libs like you are so loving and inclusive and openminded. You are so enlightened.
.....thank you?
motorwaffle
Right, things like prorating school funding in Illinois to 87% of the "minimum" level. Oh wait, that was done by Liberal leaders.
You found an example of 1 group of Democrats behaving as badly as every single Republican legislator good on you.
At least I have a concrete example, unlike some people in this two-person conversation.
N3kr0z
When I was in HS, if you didn't have money in your account. Guess who wasnt eating.
FlexGunship
Jesus. Just pay for your kid to have a decent meal. Or pack them something. Stop relying on everyone else to take care of your shit.
Jackospade
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/20/us/school-lunch-bills-overdue-payment.html
Brightandshiny
My kids school gives every kids breakfast lunch and dinner if they have after school activities. The breakfast lunch program even runs throu
Through the summer.
Predicto
both of them should get decent meals, and in reality, neither of them do
iamkyleh
In my school your lunch didnt get "replaced" by any other food. You just didnt eat. Other people would offer to give you food if youre lucky
YouPeopleAreDumb
Sounds like you had some shit ass parents.
thecoldmage
School Districts are about as local as government can get. If your district is doing this, go to meetings and vote for different people.
SweetNarNar
I remember those sandwiches ? two stale slices of bread and some practically frozen cheez to go between.
Wait you got cheese, not yellow Elmer’s glue that has giant green blots in it?
SlickRichard
I feel this post, but also there is a free/reduced lunch program my family was able to apply for... it’s not difficult to do lol
limewtf
Same, I had reduced growing up and my little brother qualified for free. You just had to reply and not worry!
SlowerDwightYouIgnorantSlut
Prisons generate money.
hwatL4bloopy
Who down votes this?
namAehT
In the long run a more educated populous generates more money for companies and governments.
SupmanTheSoup
More educated people are harder to influence and control
No one in power cares.
Bauxiet
well it is very hard to not make a profit with slavery.
RadicalLeftist
They produce profit but still suck up government money
Which becomes profit for the owners of the prisons.
Easy solution: Divide a school day into 4 hours of learning and 6 hours of hard manual labor. /s
psych0bunneh
I expect downvotes but optional highschool organized work programs i.e. internships/apprenticeships might not be a horrible idea
uptaco
...they already exist. At least in my state.
Oh the closest thing we had was Vo Tech school which can be useful as well, but that's not the same as work experience.
I didn't have the option either. Figured it out doing research for my gf's kid.
electronicbovine
School generates long term, lasting tax revenue.
Wait til you hear about the school's that refuse to accept payments from third parties to pay off the debt.
georgejimmydoodle
Thats not necessarily as shitty as it sounds. If a donation isn't targeted, and districts would certainly be barred from identifying 1/?
no one is being identified. Local Business and celebrities have been offering to pay off the entirety of the lunch debt in one go.
Kids with lunch debt to random people, so donations would be, how should the money be distributed? Districts don't have protocols 2/?
In place for prioritizing some debt over other debt.
pizzapiejaialai
I'm with the schools on this one. It's so myopic to think that these debts don't recur. And then you're kicking the can down the road.
It's a systemic structural issue, and you can't keep seeking charity to solve it. A family that can't pay needs financial help from the govt
A family that won't pay (because they prioritise other spending ahead of their child's food) needs even more help of a different kind.
If as a society you believe that children should have free meals as part of the school day, then you jolly well properly fund it.
Raise the right taxes, put money into endowments that last more than one election cycle, demand politicians who are competent.
NotYourLunchLady
Just so y'all know when kids get in trouble they usually don't even get a hot meal. It's fucked
You get to sit at the "lunch detention" table right in the middle of the cafeteria
YurgenGrimwood
We didn't get lunches at school and I'm completely fine with that. We brought out own lunchbox with a sandwich. Prisoners have less of
KnowmSaying
Thats how it works in most countries. A school is there to educate not feed your kids. I ate a sandwich and piece of fruit
For lunch till I left highschool. Hell I still do most days because it's a quick, easy, healthy and nice lunch.
an opportunity to do anything like that. It's not like they can "go home" and whip up some lunch before coming back, and they don't have
any parents who could either. No reason to make prison life even worse than it is in America.
IZ42
And many kids don't have adequate food at home either, so fuck em, right?
Most kids do, so it would be better to focus to funding on helping those who specifically need it.
It's also very different complaining about getting a warm lunch at school and getting any lunch. A warm lunch is luxury.
I think the point of the tweet is less about having a warm lunch than receiving the same number and nutritional value of meals as those in
prison at no cost, fwiw. A sandwich (especially those in school cafeterias), for developing children, is hardly adequate nutrition for the
powwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
In America, it has to make a rich person richer or their is legislation against it. Ask Betsy if she gives a shit.
CriticalJudgementalElitistPrick
That woman makes me angry enough to call her what she is...a CUNT!!
lordFaceGuyBanditZ
Don’t insult cunts like that
SanguineMyBrother
She lacks both the warmth and the depth .
NotTimon
In America, our education system is so fucked, we don't even know what "their" means.
FarkasMacTavish
Betsy who?
UnfrozenCaveman
The Secretary of Education for the past three years? Thanks for paying attention.
INB4 "I'm not American" (then why are you commenting on this)
I don't really have the time to delve any deeper than vice president.
Joblessgymshorts
You have a screenplay in your bio.
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
That’s hilarious
rabbitsandWoW
Gonna have to come back and read it
Ive had that up for 6 years and you’re the first person to notice.
FreshWater13
well I can't click on the 'about' section because your name is too long
One must not simply “click” on my about me. One must become...ok I lost my train of thought. This was going somewhere I swear.
sexytangerine
I'll wait for the movie.
aumnom
you are awake
PimpinKen
I had to stand there and work a carving station for her and her immediate family. 12 of them on the 27th floor of the anyway grand plaza>>
*Amway
In grand rapids, MI. Holy shit it was miserable. The whole family is a bunch of cunts. Every last one of em.
What did you carve up for them? Education funds? Hahaha oh i keed i keed. Yah that sucks though. Cool story about c-words.
anonymous6366
Well they should really just stop being so poor
blonx
I tryingggggg!
Aathole
I know right. The poor should just ask their dads for money!
thekeyofe
JanoahDavis42688
Yeah they need to get together and pull up their socks. *paraphrasing
UnsolicitedRichardPicture
Bootstraps.
https://youtu.be/AuqemytQ5QA I was talking about what Kevin O’Leary said on a talk show. He said socks.
Commissar9
That woman is a fucking blight on this country. Fuck her and her shitty, corrupt as hell policies.
slack3rdav3
Anyone have any idea how many US ambassadorships have been purchased in this administration? im only aware of 2 so far, but havent looked
Nostradamuswaswrong
I wonder how many people who hate her voted for trump and plan to do so again?
Deoxyribonucleicacidwashedgenes
You can check in real-time by watching how many downvotes your comment gets. So far: 0.
Xaldyn
The difference is prisons actually get funding.
JimStarluck
America: land of the free, home of the brave, fuck you if you're poor
TheGarbageDan
And yet people still emigrate here every day (legally or illegally).
Barrum
Let's focus on the states not funding the schools. That's the root of issue here
DarkZalgo
The deeper root of the issue isn't just funding, it's also gross misallocation of funds.
WorldsSmallestMegaDick
School funding in most of the states is really high compared to the rest of the OECD, its why the US is second in funding per student.
If that's true, then I'm struggling to understand how teachers have abysmally low salaries yet are still expected to purchase materials...
Because most of the money goes to administrators. It's not really that funding is an issue, allocation of funds is an issue.
Actually most of it does go to the teacher, US is #9 in average teacher salary.
Admin salary is on average 30-40% higher than teacher salary, at least according to recruiter.com.
Painkiller1020
It's a blatant sign that our education system is fundamentally broken.
leroy666
Not just your educational systems. Its your whole society.
THANK YOU, I know so many smart and talented kids that give up because of how our testing and grades are set up
krapmyself
Just we are clear, prison meals are small portions and low quality. I wouldn't feed it to a child.
madman604
But they are getting fed as oppsed to going hungry
wheredoisign
Are you going to let them starve? they are humans for christ's sake!
Well, I could feed you a bowl a beans with maggots in them with a slice of moldy bread and you technically wouldn't go hungry either.
iamthatis1
Either you are uninformed or being lied to. I’ve worked in some, they eat very well.
After they buy concessions, yeah.
OrangeRanger
Ours literally served turkey, stuffing, sweet potatoes dinner roll, peanut butter chocolate chip cookie, a banana, and turkey gravy 4 lunch.
And that's just lunch, dinner is good too. Our state serves really decent food tbh. I eat every meal during work.
God damn! What luxury prison did you go to?
SmolTenk
dont they hand out food there that explicitly isnt allowed to be served to the general public?
Yep. Expired stuff, food with maggots in them, bare minimum of FDA requirements, etc. It's why concessions get used so much.
VresiBerba
FDA allow maggots in food?
Seems they do for prisoners.
Literally not true.
RomanSnow
Honestly from the stories I've heard it depends on the prison
UdensZirnis
And school lunches depend on the school
moshthun
Since when do schools hand out lunch? We'd have two breaks during the day, and you had to bring your own food.
Ragdata
Kids are going to school hungry all over the world, but they shouldn't be. I think a funded lunch program would be a great idea in Australia
Could help with this obesity epidemic at the same time. The money we'd save on healthcare would be worth it I think
America. A hot lunch is a necessity but healthcare isn't. It boggles the mind that people think a sandwich isn't acceptable.
Afaik the school food is the only food some children get in the U.S.If you see it in the context of a"hidden"welfare program it makes sense.
Your welfare system is fucked if the schools are the ones who have to feed your kids
CrazyforRAMU
Yes they are, and yes it is.
nero4ty2
Do you really take issue with providing children a varied healthy menu?
Not at all. That responsibility should fall on the parents not the school though
In many places with this kind of backwards policy the sandwich is only a slice of cheese, maybe some meat, not very healthy or nutritious
The school provides the lunch that most people pay for, some parents can’t afford either, school lunch might be their only option for >
Eating that day, I’d never think of denying them that food or giving them something subpar because it would save $2
dargonfarce
Just put the kids in prison.
mccar7hy
THANK you
BlacksMcNutt
Same for healthcare......
CreamyPutanesca
Don’t give America any ideas...
Slorvadge
They’re locking them in cages as we speak
OnePostCloserToAHappierLIfe
Nowadays we refer to them as "classrooms" and "labor camps."
Damn, that's dark.
Isingsongsandshit
It's true
WhatShouldIUseForMyUsername
Just like kids they're putting in cages
levitatedwafflelordpart2
Alright that made me laugh
belikemike
They do, smh
maninthedarkness
That's how Megamind was raised.
number2commenter
And the prisoners in the school!
slacklines
I’m sure GEO could make this happen
KarmannGeezer
In my state, they do.
andywei420
Kids will grow up disciplined and appreciative, while we put prisoners in schools to educate them! We might just be onto something here
alphaechobravo
In the US, school attendance is compulsory until age 18, it is a sort of prision. You get something of value when you get out though.
PunnyTiger
good plan! 3 meals, free education, and a similar chance of buttrape to public schools. and when they turn 18 their record is sealed
DoomBlooms
I wanna upvote you, but you have 666 upvotes so...
NinjasStoleMyMama
Sensible.
bunwiggle
With all the guns these days, they’re safer in there.
LoudAngryJerk
send kids to prison 2020
1Veni2Vidi3Vici
Im pretty sure that's already a thing called the prison industrial complex, but I'm not completely sure.
thegreatwhiteblackartblackestmaster
Sounds like you need to run for the Senate.
rjrcwalker8
Got my vote!
Gantzz321
they do that with the college tuition
vandan117
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veesee
They tried that in canada... they were called residential schools. Didnt end well for anyone
swatz
having children of my own, I'm all for this!
didntknowyou
Here we have a solutions man
IAmNotASkeleton
This but unironically, not specifically only the kids involved in lunch debts, for unrelated reasons, and ironically.
nocturnalpoetnv
That's the plan right?
nopost
Congratulations, we're calling to inform you of your eligibility for the position of senior White House policy advisor! You're hired!
metalfoto
Gonna print this post and first comments, and get it framed
GodsFoot
Oops you did somthing Orange blob didn't like that he said he liked. You're "fired." You now have 7 book deals looking for the insider scoop
CasualFascist
And you’ve also been subpoenaed by Congress ♂️
SophieClockwise
But feel free to ignore that without fear of repercussion.
Retromorphic
Now youre talkin!
PetersPaincakes
IneedAcoolnametoo
Gold
ZeldaFanNr1
Ooh It’s big brain time.
windowtudawoll
What a modest proposal
bogun
Tender
Hyero
That's the plan. Free labor that way.
tonybrio3000
Make ALL inmates farm and make all the kids meals.
MadDucks
Dude, punctuation!
CreepyPhlox
That’s the plan. Prisons use 3rd grade test scores to determine how many cells they’ll need in 10 years.
NBbubblegum
I hope you don't have sauce for this...
ImHereForExplicitContent
Geez that's heartwarming.
JayEnfield
Hahahah, no, they just build more prisons and then get a contract with the state so that they're mandated to be filled no matter what.
Nerubin
Man ya done already need a new civil war and this time without Marvel involved.
dumpsterjedi1
Alternatively Privatize the schools
Whew you all didn't like that joke
Jagerbeast
Or take some tax money and buy some kids lunch
ACSwineburne
And no poor child will go to school again. Brilliant.
IhaveAnAvgSizePP
Breeding ground for increased polarized budgets for educating poor and wealthy
imgurdotcommie
yeah so then we can pay shareholders as well as faculty lol
Jarjarthejedi
So that the poor kids can't go anywhere to get an education? I guess that's one way to end the plight of poor children suffering at schools,
ban them entirely from the schools...Seems like a bad plan to me though.
thatbloodybastard
Because kids whose families can’t afford school lunch can definitely afford private schools right?
kilo38
Wait... you guys are getting lunch?
TheBrofessionaI
Went to mount Vernon, NY schools for a sum of 2 weeks. They only served peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. We moved out of there fast.
VodkaReindeer
My parents didn't get lunch... or a knife to butter the sandwiches they brought themselves!
n1nt
Hot lunch NSFW https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hot%20lunch
VillainousFiend
Lunch is not provided in schools where I'm from. You have to pack one. I lived close enough I just walked home.
Dante805
Right
FirstTimeLongTime
Wait, you’re going to school?
terithian
In elementary school I got hot lunch one day a month as a special event. Every other day we were expected to bring lunch from home.
DrSymphonic
We had hot lunch on Wednesday if you brought $1. 90% of the time mom wouldn’t even have that because dad stole her $ & drank it up.
AggressiveChickenSandwich1
I found a fried worm in my hot lunch. That day's special was chicken!
beez428
Wasn't...wasn't that a book?
Not to my knowledge... worst day in Elementary ever! Second to getting the wind knocked outta me for the first time!
Dyslexicbirch
In Australia you have to bring your own or buy it from tuckshop
L0rdHuggington
Read that as “truckstop” at first and was quite confused
Tuck shop short for tucker aussie slang for food
Same in NZ, though ‘tucker’ has gone out of use
Same here I dont think most people figure thats what it means
$20 bucks is $20 bucks
NotTinyPancakes
Same deal in NZ packed lunch or you got it from the school shop, or went up to the shops during lunch if you were over year 11.
sauvemonkey
We got brekky in primary school though if you want to before school care or snacks and milo at after school care
We didn't in my day but I think they do now
This was 25 years ago. My god I'm old.
Sounds like a rich city school shit to me
Would be nice. Run of the mill state school.
Hell no. Growing up I had starve for breakfast & lunch because of my parental units poor life choices. No $ for food. $ for booze.
MyFavouriteHoodie
I remember my mum crying because she couldn't afford guitar lessons but the recycling was always full of glass bottles... I feel ya
Youareprobablytoofragile
Wait it is supposed to be someone else's fault. Your doing it wrong. Blame billionaires or something.
On my 10th & 14th b-day dad let me have a Stroh’s. Grandma was pretty pissed off about that.
littlesquishablecake
Hey same! I made sure my siblings had at least some food though. I'm so thankful for food banks
APenguinInATuxedo
Good on you
mdmedlin
And cigarettes
Susurration
sounds like pretty solid life choices to me.
OneTrueSaviour
You sound like you're slowly dying
CelestialApollo
Wow you got starve for breakfast and lunch? Lucky. I only got sleep for dinner!
NotaCPA
Was it booze for your parental units? It was for mine. Booze > food for kids, Booze > home insurance, Booze > car maintenance.
It was booze for dad. Mom pretty much had to babysit him in the bars. My brother & I were usually left alone with bread & govt. cheese.
oh man :-( Let me share something while we compare poverty stories. The best Xmas we had, was a Xmas hamper program food, presents, treats 2
When my parents got back on their feet, the booze never left. That was still the best Christmas probably because of the surprise gifts. best
Imaloserbabysowhydontyoukillme
i lived that life too homie effin sucks
Oh yeah. It did. Even after I left the house mom was always in those free food lines & wouldn’t accept my or my brother’s help.
wrenish
Fed kids are better students and are more likely to be productive members of society, benefiting us all. It should be an easy choice.
JamJarman
Yes but then rich people's kids will have a very slightly less easy ride as 1/100 poor kid has managed to slip through as competition
Poor students make prisoners in time. That feeds the prison industrial complex and we save on lunches. It’s a win-win.
also it's wrong to let kids starve
AgnosticPaladin
Unfortunately, that argument does not seem to be enough for the most people.
Choose gated communities, instead.
TuityFrooty
And more likely to show up to school, even if only for a free meal.
NeoAcario
Yeah, but that takes a dozen+ years. Some people that wanna get richer faster may not live that long.... so.. NO SOUP FOR YOU!
It should be easy. the fucking parents need to provide for their children. Schools are heavily underfunded, the parents need to do something
If you can't afford to feed your fucking kids you should have thought about that before you got pregnant.
It's almost 2020, if you don;t want kids it is 100% avoidable.
Brucecori2
Your argument is presented too aggressively. You're forgetting that these are children who already exist. They don't deserve starvation.
Perhaps but when adults make poor decisions that force these kids to go hungry, what is the best course of action?
zoezoebelle
Even if the kid's parent is a total piece of shit, that doesn't mean THEIR KID DESERVES TO STARVE, dickhead
Pretty simple fucking concept.
On a different note. Where is the school supposed to get money to feed the children? Taxes and levies are constantly voted down that would
Increase funding. And often voted down by the very parent that can’t feed their kids. So really these parents need to grow up.
Easy: taxes should not be voted down.
But they consistently are by the very communities that need them the most. It's a cycle
Honestly their kids should be placed with more responsible adults. TAKE CARE OF YOUR FUCKING CHILDREN OR DONT HAVE THEM!
Are you going to pay to support the foster system? No. All you want is for a ton of poor kids to starve to death so you can save $30.
$30 is how much you likely pay in taxes every year toward food stamps. That's it. That's all it takes to save lives you absolute monster.
BlueLanternBraxx
The students at my school get free breakfast. Lunch they are on their own, but if they have nothing, we will give them breakfast stuff.
michaeldkolesnik2018
Schools are getting more money now than ever before. probably ~10% goes to actual student related.
normalizebeingalone
That must be exactly why there is a teacher shortage and there have been strikes! All that money we are keeping for ourselves. /S
MeAndMyADD
When I was a prisoner, I absolutely did NOT get 3 hot meals a day but... I guess that ain't what this is really about heh?
The502nd
Where I work, unless we're on lockdown every offender gets three hot meals.
SmugandFurry
When I was in Corrections, every got three hots, unless they came in after the kitchen was closed, then they got a bagged meal.
Idontevenwanttosignupjustletmelurk
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2017/12/prison-food-sickness-america/549179/
Idontevenwanttosignupjustletmelurk
https://people.howstuffworks.com/prison-food.htm
ourari
So what you're saying is, they are actually doing the kids a favor by not feeding them? (To be clear: This is not a serious comment.)
Idontevenwanttosignupjustletmelurk
If you make the well-being of your citizens a profitable enterprise, profits will inevitably come before the well being of the citizens.
Idontevenwanttosignupjustletmelurk
Also just feed the kids to the inmates. Two birds one BBQ
OMFGWhatHaveWeDONE
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drakewarnock
Nordenfeldt
So, are you really this much of a cunt, or is trolling for attention the only way you can gain any validation in your sad life?
ZachNanamus
Walmart aides its workers to get on food stamps. Having a job does not mean you’re not poor. Having a job does not mean you’re not starving
ragekritz
I'm assuming this is a joke
FiftyShadesOfMascarpone
Well, this username certainly checks out.
storebrandproductmascot
It's like in the parable of the Good Samaritan where he kicks the traveler in the face and tells him to go back to his own people.
OMFGWhatHaveWeDONE
Or the one where the Christian neighbor comes asking for help, so you take away their children and lock them in cages.
SecretlyASiberianHusky
I mean, heaven has a pretty strong vetting policy.
OMFGWhatHaveWeDONE
It's simple: Ask for forgiveness.
nutmegwolf
My old school district is making breakfast and lunches free next year. Bit by bit it can get better.
nutmegwolf
Scratch that. It was free starting this school year.
SnugglesaurusRex
One of the many reasons the Republican party should be voted out of existence. This kind of sadistic bullshit has no place in society.
JPRedonky
Wrong, the actual Republican Party is fine, it’s what freed the U.S. what we have today are not republicans
drakewarnock
The 'actual' republican party is the one that exists. Its the one you can go out and vote for. Maybe in the past they werent all assholes 1/
drakewarnock
2/ but we can't vote for any of them and they're ideas do not influence the current crop of people who ARE assholes.
That1guyfromKC
Libs like you are so loving and inclusive and openminded. You are so enlightened.
drakewarnock
.....thank you?
motorwaffle
Right, things like prorating school funding in Illinois to 87% of the "minimum" level. Oh wait, that was done by Liberal leaders.
SnugglesaurusRex
You found an example of 1 group of Democrats behaving as badly as every single Republican legislator good on you.
motorwaffle
At least I have a concrete example, unlike some people in this two-person conversation.
N3kr0z
When I was in HS, if you didn't have money in your account. Guess who wasnt eating.
FlexGunship
Jesus. Just pay for your kid to have a decent meal. Or pack them something. Stop relying on everyone else to take care of your shit.
Jackospade
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/20/us/school-lunch-bills-overdue-payment.html
Brightandshiny
My kids school gives every kids breakfast lunch and dinner if they have after school activities. The breakfast lunch program even runs throu
Brightandshiny
Through the summer.
Predicto
both of them should get decent meals, and in reality, neither of them do
iamkyleh
In my school your lunch didnt get "replaced" by any other food. You just didnt eat. Other people would offer to give you food if youre lucky
YouPeopleAreDumb
Sounds like you had some shit ass parents.
thecoldmage
School Districts are about as local as government can get. If your district is doing this, go to meetings and vote for different people.
SweetNarNar
I remember those sandwiches ? two stale slices of bread and some practically frozen cheez to go between.
JPRedonky
Wait you got cheese, not yellow Elmer’s glue that has giant green blots in it?
SlickRichard
I feel this post, but also there is a free/reduced lunch program my family was able to apply for... it’s not difficult to do lol
limewtf
Same, I had reduced growing up and my little brother qualified for free. You just had to reply and not worry!
SlowerDwightYouIgnorantSlut
Prisons generate money.
hwatL4bloopy
Who down votes this?
namAehT
In the long run a more educated populous generates more money for companies and governments.
SupmanTheSoup
More educated people are harder to influence and control
SlowerDwightYouIgnorantSlut
No one in power cares.
Bauxiet
well it is very hard to not make a profit with slavery.
RadicalLeftist
They produce profit but still suck up government money
SlowerDwightYouIgnorantSlut
Which becomes profit for the owners of the prisons.
ourari
Easy solution: Divide a school day into 4 hours of learning and 6 hours of hard manual labor. /s
psych0bunneh
I expect downvotes but optional highschool organized work programs i.e. internships/apprenticeships might not be a horrible idea
uptaco
...they already exist. At least in my state.
psych0bunneh
Oh the closest thing we had was Vo Tech school which can be useful as well, but that's not the same as work experience.
uptaco
I didn't have the option either. Figured it out doing research for my gf's kid.
electronicbovine
School generates long term, lasting tax revenue.
SlowerDwightYouIgnorantSlut
No one in power cares.
hwatL4bloopy
Wait til you hear about the school's that refuse to accept payments from third parties to pay off the debt.
georgejimmydoodle
Thats not necessarily as shitty as it sounds. If a donation isn't targeted, and districts would certainly be barred from identifying 1/?
hwatL4bloopy
no one is being identified. Local Business and celebrities have been offering to pay off the entirety of the lunch debt in one go.
georgejimmydoodle
Kids with lunch debt to random people, so donations would be, how should the money be distributed? Districts don't have protocols 2/?
georgejimmydoodle
In place for prioritizing some debt over other debt.
pizzapiejaialai
I'm with the schools on this one. It's so myopic to think that these debts don't recur. And then you're kicking the can down the road.
pizzapiejaialai
It's a systemic structural issue, and you can't keep seeking charity to solve it. A family that can't pay needs financial help from the govt
pizzapiejaialai
A family that won't pay (because they prioritise other spending ahead of their child's food) needs even more help of a different kind.
pizzapiejaialai
If as a society you believe that children should have free meals as part of the school day, then you jolly well properly fund it.
pizzapiejaialai
Raise the right taxes, put money into endowments that last more than one election cycle, demand politicians who are competent.
NotYourLunchLady
Just so y'all know when kids get in trouble they usually don't even get a hot meal. It's fucked
NotYourLunchLady
You get to sit at the "lunch detention" table right in the middle of the cafeteria
YurgenGrimwood
We didn't get lunches at school and I'm completely fine with that. We brought out own lunchbox with a sandwich. Prisoners have less of
KnowmSaying
Thats how it works in most countries. A school is there to educate not feed your kids. I ate a sandwich and piece of fruit
KnowmSaying
For lunch till I left highschool. Hell I still do most days because it's a quick, easy, healthy and nice lunch.
YurgenGrimwood
an opportunity to do anything like that. It's not like they can "go home" and whip up some lunch before coming back, and they don't have
YurgenGrimwood
any parents who could either. No reason to make prison life even worse than it is in America.
IZ42
And many kids don't have adequate food at home either, so fuck em, right?
YurgenGrimwood
Most kids do, so it would be better to focus to funding on helping those who specifically need it.
YurgenGrimwood
It's also very different complaining about getting a warm lunch at school and getting any lunch. A warm lunch is luxury.
IZ42
I think the point of the tweet is less about having a warm lunch than receiving the same number and nutritional value of meals as those in
IZ42
prison at no cost, fwiw. A sandwich (especially those in school cafeterias), for developing children, is hardly adequate nutrition for the
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In America, it has to make a rich person richer or their is legislation against it. Ask Betsy if she gives a shit.
CriticalJudgementalElitistPrick
That woman makes me angry enough to call her what she is...a CUNT!!
lordFaceGuyBanditZ
Don’t insult cunts like that
SanguineMyBrother
She lacks both the warmth and the depth .
NotTimon
In America, our education system is so fucked, we don't even know what "their" means.
FarkasMacTavish
Betsy who?
UnfrozenCaveman
The Secretary of Education for the past three years? Thanks for paying attention.
UnfrozenCaveman
INB4 "I'm not American" (then why are you commenting on this)
FarkasMacTavish
I don't really have the time to delve any deeper than vice president.
Joblessgymshorts
You have a screenplay in your bio.
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
That’s hilarious
rabbitsandWoW
Gonna have to come back and read it
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Ive had that up for 6 years and you’re the first person to notice.
FreshWater13
well I can't click on the 'about' section because your name is too long
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One must not simply “click” on my about me. One must become...ok I lost my train of thought. This was going somewhere I swear.
sexytangerine
I'll wait for the movie.
aumnom
you are awake
PimpinKen
I had to stand there and work a carving station for her and her immediate family. 12 of them on the 27th floor of the anyway grand plaza>>
PimpinKen
*Amway
PimpinKen
In grand rapids, MI. Holy shit it was miserable. The whole family is a bunch of cunts. Every last one of em.
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What did you carve up for them? Education funds? Hahaha oh i keed i keed. Yah that sucks though. Cool story about c-words.
anonymous6366
Well they should really just stop being so poor
blonx
I tryingggggg!
Aathole
I know right. The poor should just ask their dads for money!
thekeyofe
JanoahDavis42688
Yeah they need to get together and pull up their socks. *paraphrasing
UnsolicitedRichardPicture
Bootstraps.
JanoahDavis42688
https://youtu.be/AuqemytQ5QA I was talking about what Kevin O’Leary said on a talk show. He said socks.
Commissar9
That woman is a fucking blight on this country. Fuck her and her shitty, corrupt as hell policies.
slack3rdav3
Anyone have any idea how many US ambassadorships have been purchased in this administration? im only aware of 2 so far, but havent looked
Nostradamuswaswrong
I wonder how many people who hate her voted for trump and plan to do so again?
Deoxyribonucleicacidwashedgenes
You can check in real-time by watching how many downvotes your comment gets. So far: 0.
Xaldyn
The difference is prisons actually get funding.
JimStarluck
America: land of the free, home of the brave, fuck you if you're poor
TheGarbageDan
And yet people still emigrate here every day (legally or illegally).
Barrum
Let's focus on the states not funding the schools. That's the root of issue here
DarkZalgo
The deeper root of the issue isn't just funding, it's also gross misallocation of funds.
WorldsSmallestMegaDick
School funding in most of the states is really high compared to the rest of the OECD, its why the US is second in funding per student.
Barrum
If that's true, then I'm struggling to understand how teachers have abysmally low salaries yet are still expected to purchase materials...
DarkZalgo
Because most of the money goes to administrators. It's not really that funding is an issue, allocation of funds is an issue.
WorldsSmallestMegaDick
Actually most of it does go to the teacher, US is #9 in average teacher salary.
DarkZalgo
Admin salary is on average 30-40% higher than teacher salary, at least according to recruiter.com.
Painkiller1020
It's a blatant sign that our education system is fundamentally broken.
leroy666
Not just your educational systems. Its your whole society.
JPRedonky
THANK YOU, I know so many smart and talented kids that give up because of how our testing and grades are set up
krapmyself
Just we are clear, prison meals are small portions and low quality. I wouldn't feed it to a child.
madman604
But they are getting fed as oppsed to going hungry
wheredoisign
Are you going to let them starve? they are humans for christ's sake!
krapmyself
Well, I could feed you a bowl a beans with maggots in them with a slice of moldy bread and you technically wouldn't go hungry either.
iamthatis1
Either you are uninformed or being lied to. I’ve worked in some, they eat very well.
krapmyself
After they buy concessions, yeah.
OrangeRanger
Ours literally served turkey, stuffing, sweet potatoes dinner roll, peanut butter chocolate chip cookie, a banana, and turkey gravy 4 lunch.
OrangeRanger
And that's just lunch, dinner is good too. Our state serves really decent food tbh. I eat every meal during work.
krapmyself
God damn! What luxury prison did you go to?
SmolTenk
dont they hand out food there that explicitly isnt allowed to be served to the general public?
krapmyself
Yep. Expired stuff, food with maggots in them, bare minimum of FDA requirements, etc. It's why concessions get used so much.
VresiBerba
FDA allow maggots in food?
krapmyself
Seems they do for prisoners.
OrangeRanger
Literally not true.
RomanSnow
Honestly from the stories I've heard it depends on the prison
UdensZirnis
And school lunches depend on the school
moshthun
Since when do schools hand out lunch? We'd have two breaks during the day, and you had to bring your own food.
Ragdata
Kids are going to school hungry all over the world, but they shouldn't be. I think a funded lunch program would be a great idea in Australia
Ragdata
Could help with this obesity epidemic at the same time. The money we'd save on healthcare would be worth it I think
KnowmSaying
America. A hot lunch is a necessity but healthcare isn't. It boggles the mind that people think a sandwich isn't acceptable.
SmolTenk
Afaik the school food is the only food some children get in the U.S.If you see it in the context of a"hidden"welfare program it makes sense.
KnowmSaying
Your welfare system is fucked if the schools are the ones who have to feed your kids
CrazyforRAMU
Yes they are, and yes it is.
nero4ty2
Do you really take issue with providing children a varied healthy menu?
KnowmSaying
Not at all. That responsibility should fall on the parents not the school though
nero4ty2
In many places with this kind of backwards policy the sandwich is only a slice of cheese, maybe some meat, not very healthy or nutritious
nero4ty2
The school provides the lunch that most people pay for, some parents can’t afford either, school lunch might be their only option for >
nero4ty2
Eating that day, I’d never think of denying them that food or giving them something subpar because it would save $2
dargonfarce
Just put the kids in prison.
mccar7hy
THANK you
BlacksMcNutt
Same for healthcare......
CreamyPutanesca
Don’t give America any ideas...
Slorvadge
They’re locking them in cages as we speak
OnePostCloserToAHappierLIfe
Nowadays we refer to them as "classrooms" and "labor camps."
dargonfarce
Damn, that's dark.
Isingsongsandshit
It's true
WhatShouldIUseForMyUsername
Just like kids they're putting in cages
levitatedwafflelordpart2
Alright that made me laugh
belikemike
They do, smh
maninthedarkness
That's how Megamind was raised.
number2commenter
And the prisoners in the school!
slacklines
I’m sure GEO could make this happen
KarmannGeezer
In my state, they do.
andywei420
Kids will grow up disciplined and appreciative, while we put prisoners in schools to educate them! We might just be onto something here
alphaechobravo
In the US, school attendance is compulsory until age 18, it is a sort of prision. You get something of value when you get out though.
PunnyTiger
good plan! 3 meals, free education, and a similar chance of buttrape to public schools. and when they turn 18 their record is sealed
DoomBlooms
I wanna upvote you, but you have 666 upvotes so...
NinjasStoleMyMama
Sensible.
bunwiggle
With all the guns these days, they’re safer in there.
LoudAngryJerk
send kids to prison 2020
1Veni2Vidi3Vici
Im pretty sure that's already a thing called the prison industrial complex, but I'm not completely sure.
thegreatwhiteblackartblackestmaster
Sounds like you need to run for the Senate.
rjrcwalker8
Got my vote!
Gantzz321
they do that with the college tuition
vandan117
veesee
They tried that in canada... they were called residential schools. Didnt end well for anyone
swatz
having children of my own, I'm all for this!
didntknowyou
Here we have a solutions man
IAmNotASkeleton
This but unironically, not specifically only the kids involved in lunch debts, for unrelated reasons, and ironically.
nocturnalpoetnv
That's the plan right?
nopost
Congratulations, we're calling to inform you of your eligibility for the position of senior White House policy advisor! You're hired!
metalfoto
Gonna print this post and first comments, and get it framed
GodsFoot
Oops you did somthing Orange blob didn't like that he said he liked. You're "fired." You now have 7 book deals looking for the insider scoop
CasualFascist
And you’ve also been subpoenaed by Congress ♂️
SophieClockwise
But feel free to ignore that without fear of repercussion.
Retromorphic
Now youre talkin!
PetersPaincakes
IneedAcoolnametoo
Gold
ZeldaFanNr1
Ooh It’s big brain time.
windowtudawoll
What a modest proposal
bogun
Tender
Hyero
That's the plan. Free labor that way.
tonybrio3000
Make ALL inmates farm and make all the kids meals.
MadDucks
Dude, punctuation!
CreepyPhlox
That’s the plan. Prisons use 3rd grade test scores to determine how many cells they’ll need in 10 years.
NBbubblegum
I hope you don't have sauce for this...
ImHereForExplicitContent
Geez that's heartwarming.
JayEnfield
Hahahah, no, they just build more prisons and then get a contract with the state so that they're mandated to be filled no matter what.
Nerubin
Man ya done already need a new civil war and this time without Marvel involved.
dumpsterjedi1
Alternatively Privatize the schools
dumpsterjedi1
Whew you all didn't like that joke
Jagerbeast
Or take some tax money and buy some kids lunch
ACSwineburne
And no poor child will go to school again. Brilliant.
IhaveAnAvgSizePP
Breeding ground for increased polarized budgets for educating poor and wealthy
imgurdotcommie
yeah so then we can pay shareholders as well as faculty lol
Jarjarthejedi
So that the poor kids can't go anywhere to get an education? I guess that's one way to end the plight of poor children suffering at schools,
Jarjarthejedi
ban them entirely from the schools...Seems like a bad plan to me though.
thatbloodybastard
Because kids whose families can’t afford school lunch can definitely afford private schools right?
kilo38
Wait... you guys are getting lunch?
TheBrofessionaI
Went to mount Vernon, NY schools for a sum of 2 weeks. They only served peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. We moved out of there fast.
VodkaReindeer
My parents didn't get lunch... or a knife to butter the sandwiches they brought themselves!
n1nt
Hot lunch NSFW https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hot%20lunch
VillainousFiend
Lunch is not provided in schools where I'm from. You have to pack one. I lived close enough I just walked home.
Dante805
Right
FirstTimeLongTime
Wait, you’re going to school?
terithian
In elementary school I got hot lunch one day a month as a special event. Every other day we were expected to bring lunch from home.
DrSymphonic
We had hot lunch on Wednesday if you brought $1. 90% of the time mom wouldn’t even have that because dad stole her $ & drank it up.
AggressiveChickenSandwich1
I found a fried worm in my hot lunch. That day's special was chicken!
beez428
Wasn't...wasn't that a book?
AggressiveChickenSandwich1
Not to my knowledge... worst day in Elementary ever! Second to getting the wind knocked outta me for the first time!
Dyslexicbirch
In Australia you have to bring your own or buy it from tuckshop
L0rdHuggington
Read that as “truckstop” at first and was quite confused
Dyslexicbirch
Tuck shop short for tucker aussie slang for food
kilo38
Same in NZ, though ‘tucker’ has gone out of use
Dyslexicbirch
Same here I dont think most people figure thats what it means
kilo38
$20 bucks is $20 bucks
NotTinyPancakes
Same deal in NZ packed lunch or you got it from the school shop, or went up to the shops during lunch if you were over year 11.
sauvemonkey
We got brekky in primary school though if you want to before school care or snacks and milo at after school care
NotTinyPancakes
We didn't in my day but I think they do now
sauvemonkey
This was 25 years ago. My god I'm old.
Dyslexicbirch
Sounds like a rich city school shit to me
sauvemonkey
Would be nice. Run of the mill state school.
DrSymphonic
Hell no. Growing up I had starve for breakfast & lunch because of my parental units poor life choices. No $ for food. $ for booze.
MyFavouriteHoodie
I remember my mum crying because she couldn't afford guitar lessons but the recycling was always full of glass bottles... I feel ya
Youareprobablytoofragile
Wait it is supposed to be someone else's fault. Your doing it wrong. Blame billionaires or something.
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DrSymphonic
On my 10th & 14th b-day dad let me have a Stroh’s. Grandma was pretty pissed off about that.
littlesquishablecake
Hey same! I made sure my siblings had at least some food though. I'm so thankful for food banks
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APenguinInATuxedo
Good on you
mdmedlin
And cigarettes
Susurration
sounds like pretty solid life choices to me.
OneTrueSaviour
You sound like you're slowly dying
CelestialApollo
Wow you got starve for breakfast and lunch? Lucky. I only got sleep for dinner!
NotaCPA
Was it booze for your parental units? It was for mine. Booze > food for kids, Booze > home insurance, Booze > car maintenance.
DrSymphonic
It was booze for dad. Mom pretty much had to babysit him in the bars. My brother & I were usually left alone with bread & govt. cheese.
NotaCPA
oh man :-( Let me share something while we compare poverty stories. The best Xmas we had, was a Xmas hamper program food, presents, treats 2
NotaCPA
When my parents got back on their feet, the booze never left. That was still the best Christmas probably because of the surprise gifts. best
Imaloserbabysowhydontyoukillme
i lived that life too homie effin sucks
DrSymphonic
Oh yeah. It did. Even after I left the house mom was always in those free food lines & wouldn’t accept my or my brother’s help.
wrenish
Fed kids are better students and are more likely to be productive members of society, benefiting us all. It should be an easy choice.
JamJarman
Yes but then rich people's kids will have a very slightly less easy ride as 1/100 poor kid has managed to slip through as competition
ZachNanamus
Poor students make prisoners in time. That feeds the prison industrial complex and we save on lunches. It’s a win-win.
Bauxiet
also it's wrong to let kids starve
AgnosticPaladin
Unfortunately, that argument does not seem to be enough for the most people.
leroy666
Choose gated communities, instead.
TuityFrooty
And more likely to show up to school, even if only for a free meal.
NeoAcario
Yeah, but that takes a dozen+ years. Some people that wanna get richer faster may not live that long.... so.. NO SOUP FOR YOU!
YouPeopleAreDumb
It should be easy. the fucking parents need to provide for their children. Schools are heavily underfunded, the parents need to do something
YouPeopleAreDumb
If you can't afford to feed your fucking kids you should have thought about that before you got pregnant.
YouPeopleAreDumb
It's almost 2020, if you don;t want kids it is 100% avoidable.
Brucecori2
Your argument is presented too aggressively. You're forgetting that these are children who already exist. They don't deserve starvation.
YouPeopleAreDumb
Perhaps but when adults make poor decisions that force these kids to go hungry, what is the best course of action?
zoezoebelle
Even if the kid's parent is a total piece of shit, that doesn't mean THEIR KID DESERVES TO STARVE, dickhead
YouPeopleAreDumb
Pretty simple fucking concept.
YouPeopleAreDumb
On a different note. Where is the school supposed to get money to feed the children? Taxes and levies are constantly voted down that would
YouPeopleAreDumb
Increase funding. And often voted down by the very parent that can’t feed their kids. So really these parents need to grow up.
AgnosticPaladin
Easy: taxes should not be voted down.
YouPeopleAreDumb
But they consistently are by the very communities that need them the most. It's a cycle
YouPeopleAreDumb
Honestly their kids should be placed with more responsible adults. TAKE CARE OF YOUR FUCKING CHILDREN OR DONT HAVE THEM!
zoezoebelle
Are you going to pay to support the foster system? No. All you want is for a ton of poor kids to starve to death so you can save $30.
zoezoebelle
$30 is how much you likely pay in taxes every year toward food stamps. That's it. That's all it takes to save lives you absolute monster.