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most viral edit: send nudes. no dudes
goboltz
Yeah . . Just wait until you see the "International Rates" for you poor bastards . . oh, now you see clearly huh . .
Bystandr
I guess you never realized the US owns the net in most nations, too
MistressLyda
It will still affect us.
RingSting
Sadly, most traffic is routed through America, so we need to at least thumb this shit up.
ticktockbent
Now reverse it for when you realize that things happening in America will affect the internet you use.
onedimensionalman
Marshall?
iLikeToRubMyToastsTogetherAndMakeAFireSandwich
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/save-net-neutrality-and-internet-we-know-it
wurdtoyer
Australian here. If this set of regulations passes it will set a dangerous and irretrievable international precedent. Still concerned.
heyguysimtom
You think that a major internet shift in the US won't impact the rest of the free world?
Thisisnighthawkcalling
They are going to want to try it in europe too.
RTKeulen
Except net neutrality is enshrined in EU law, and EU lawmakers are less susceptible to lobbying because their seats are easier to lose.
Sashster
orangesandbananas +
Justalobstercowboy
because you never access sites in the US. why does anyone even bother? idiots, all of them, idiots
Which as European will be handled by the European ISP, which is bound to net neutrality.
36roentgen
Plot twist, NN is actually about America forcibly taking over control of the internet as a plot to gain control of more oil by trading 1
internet privileges for oil fields. (tightens tin foil hat.)
kamosey
Good thing you don't use imgur.
BayazTheBenevolent
"Missing the point" by OP.
afterdarkart
Sorry, you're getting nudes, and I'm a dude. Didn't REALISE.
icelandicsealbear
Where America goes- no I can't finish that statement with a straight face.
RicochetSaw
If you think this wont effect you you have no idea what net neutrality is about.
Grunwald
Weeeelll in Belgium ISP's have also blocked access to certain sites as instructed by the government
RagingIndianCowboy
The FCC won't let me be, or let me be me so let me see...wait I'm from Canada. Nanananananananana
hwatL4bloopy
dudes send all the nudes
BlueElephant92
the problem is as a non american the US laws will effect you, but without being an US citizen you have no influence on them
Aslatra
A lot of prominent internet sites are US based, but even if not, we're not the only ones with a government fucking with the web.
Silentbob24
Zokathra
A lot of servers moving overseas then.
PegLegSteg
It has nothing to do with where the server is it has do with how you are accessing it
Qumefox
Yep. Doesn't matter where the server is if your direct upstream provider decides to throttle everybody who doesn't pay extra.
itsallinthewrist
Ohhhhhh Canaaaanadaaaaa
That'll do too.
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PabloIsGreat
If you go far enough it can be
Noob3rts
I don't live in America but I know it will hurt my country just as much in the long run so I upvote.
Psurprise
Eminem is getting old...:)
FosterFox
Welp at least I live in Canada, better than US atm I guess
ComplexSystemsGuy
Yeah, but we still have to go through most American servers which are still subject to the regulation.
xplodingpants
Which can be fixed by hosting in EU or Asia. Check how's business adapting with Brexit coming around the corner.
But you don't choose where your data goes?
Yes, but im pretty sure some good guy will come up with solution, that's the beauty of the internet. There will be a 'fix'
I may live in a socialist Europe but at least I'm not governed by big business.
safetcup
Which country?
lawideas
Psst - you have big businesses in Europe that your "socialist" leaders cater to.
Chefofrats
Actually big business lobbing is not all that successful in Europe.
So the Germany-Greece situation had nothing to do with German car companies who made billions off Greek debt? I see...
Verelse
Yep, at least you get to elect your overlords. Ours just buy and sell us at will
No they don't. They elect the party in power, which in turn selects their leaders.
I am aware of the subtleties, but your comment does not refute mine
There's no need to get all downvotey
That's not me, bruh.
ReJokeStatistics
Unless you have a web business and our ISPs throttle traffic from US customers cause you won't pay them for priority.
shewfleck
I'm pretty sure my UK Netflix subscription became more expensive because Comcast are arseholes.
JJ2078
That is a very specific set of circumstances that will apply to an amazingly small amount of people... oh, and "cause you won't? Should we?
Solomon031
Womp-womp.
BronzeLeaguePro
I am fairly certain that the EU would throw a bitch fit large enough to scare Trump's hairdresser (a fearless person if there ever was one)
Theme777
There's literally a law for EU-citizens that guarantee net-neutrality. So they'd have to cut service off for EU-citizens to enforce it.
NewCrobuzonCitizen
I mean they can just rent some servers in EU to host. Or basically anywhere outside US.
Tikityler
That is not what that person means. Servers in EU, customers in US. Throttle customer's connection to your website.
Once net neutrality dies in the US the EU will follow suit. Preparations are already being made in Germany.
PreciousPotato
Oh, please. I know way too many guys who sound like you to take you seriously. Always grumbling and complaining, but it's always just /1
First of all, you don't know shit about me so stop assuming to know how I think. Second, the discussion is far from over in Germany and
some ominous conspiracy theory and a "you'll see". The net neutrality discussion is already over and done, in favour of net neutrality, /2
Toothicus
I highly doubt it. The EU has diverged from the US on many issues, it would not suddenly decide that neutering innovation is great.
This isn't neutering innovation it's monetizing current infrastructure
No need to downvote me for stating facts. I live in Germany and lawmakers are continuously working to erode internet freedom.
JellyGiblets
The world is a bigger place than just the US
areyousurethiswaterssanitary
freedom has no size limit
TheGrizzlyKiwi
*excluding pacific islands and Nz apparently
EClaire1073
Apparently it does, otherwise we wouldn't be having this problem in the first place.
Beekerseeker
Good observation...
CottonTShirtz
Yeah, but a lot of internet companies are HQ'd in the US and consider US consumers to be their primary demographic.
LokiShade
That's Commie talk.
pugofstardock
Does the US know?
theresaghostinthere
It doesn't appear so...
We, in fact, do not.
ThisIsNotTheUserYouAreLookingForOrIsIt
Not so much freedom now Merican's Need to rename you to MeriCant's!
nosquirrelbones
Good burn. It's like U.S, and North Korea are the same country in so many ways.
DuckyofDeath123
Ah, another Yank who thinks there is EITHER the US (total freedom) OR NK (total no freedom). Like, the rest of the world doesn't exist.
I'm not a Yank. I also, said that U.S, and NK are the same tongue in cheek...so I think you've confused yourself here mate.
"oh shit I got called out so let'spretend I was joking!"
How? I'm not American. U.S, and North Korea do have lots of similarities? You're confused kid.
Total freedom in the US? Where do I sign up? We have to go to certain "zones" to use our rights of assembly and free speech.
Ask the squirrel guy. I've been to the US. Sordid place full of fascist twats running border control.
Dude, I'm American. I was pointing out that we have less freedom than people claim.
I'm not a yank...
goboltz
Yeah . . Just wait until you see the "International Rates" for you poor bastards . . oh, now you see clearly huh . .
Bystandr
I guess you never realized the US owns the net in most nations, too
MistressLyda
It will still affect us.
RingSting
Sadly, most traffic is routed through America, so we need to at least thumb this shit up.
ticktockbent
Now reverse it for when you realize that things happening in America will affect the internet you use.
onedimensionalman
Marshall?
iLikeToRubMyToastsTogetherAndMakeAFireSandwich
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/save-net-neutrality-and-internet-we-know-it
wurdtoyer
Australian here. If this set of regulations passes it will set a dangerous and irretrievable international precedent. Still concerned.
heyguysimtom
You think that a major internet shift in the US won't impact the rest of the free world?
Thisisnighthawkcalling
They are going to want to try it in europe too.
RTKeulen
Except net neutrality is enshrined in EU law, and EU lawmakers are less susceptible to lobbying because their seats are easier to lose.
Sashster
orangesandbananas +
Justalobstercowboy
because you never access sites in the US. why does anyone even bother? idiots, all of them, idiots
RTKeulen
Which as European will be handled by the European ISP, which is bound to net neutrality.
36roentgen
Plot twist, NN is actually about America forcibly taking over control of the internet as a plot to gain control of more oil by trading 1
36roentgen
internet privileges for oil fields. (tightens tin foil hat.)
kamosey
Good thing you don't use imgur.
BayazTheBenevolent
"Missing the point" by OP.
afterdarkart
Sorry, you're getting nudes, and I'm a dude. Didn't REALISE.
icelandicsealbear
Where America goes- no I can't finish that statement with a straight face.
RicochetSaw
If you think this wont effect you you have no idea what net neutrality is about.
Grunwald
Weeeelll in Belgium ISP's have also blocked access to certain sites as instructed by the government
RagingIndianCowboy
The FCC won't let me be, or let me be me so let me see...wait I'm from Canada. Nanananananananana
hwatL4bloopy
dudes send all the nudes
BlueElephant92
the problem is as a non american the US laws will effect you, but without being an US citizen you have no influence on them
Aslatra
A lot of prominent internet sites are US based, but even if not, we're not the only ones with a government fucking with the web.
Silentbob24
Zokathra
A lot of servers moving overseas then.
PegLegSteg
It has nothing to do with where the server is it has do with how you are accessing it
Qumefox
Yep. Doesn't matter where the server is if your direct upstream provider decides to throttle everybody who doesn't pay extra.
itsallinthewrist
Ohhhhhh Canaaaanadaaaaa
Zokathra
That'll do too.
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[deleted]
PabloIsGreat
If you go far enough it can be
Noob3rts
I don't live in America but I know it will hurt my country just as much in the long run so I upvote.
Psurprise
Eminem is getting old...:)
FosterFox
Welp at least I live in Canada, better than US atm I guess
ComplexSystemsGuy
Yeah, but we still have to go through most American servers which are still subject to the regulation.
xplodingpants
Which can be fixed by hosting in EU or Asia. Check how's business adapting with Brexit coming around the corner.
ComplexSystemsGuy
But you don't choose where your data goes?
xplodingpants
Yes, but im pretty sure some good guy will come up with solution, that's the beauty of the internet. There will be a 'fix'
Zokathra
I may live in a socialist Europe but at least I'm not governed by big business.
safetcup
Which country?
lawideas
Psst - you have big businesses in Europe that your "socialist" leaders cater to.
Chefofrats
Actually big business lobbing is not all that successful in Europe.
lawideas
So the Germany-Greece situation had nothing to do with German car companies who made billions off Greek debt? I see...
Verelse
Yep, at least you get to elect your overlords. Ours just buy and sell us at will
lawideas
No they don't. They elect the party in power, which in turn selects their leaders.
Verelse
I am aware of the subtleties, but your comment does not refute mine
lawideas
There's no need to get all downvotey
Verelse
That's not me, bruh.
ReJokeStatistics
Unless you have a web business and our ISPs throttle traffic from US customers cause you won't pay them for priority.
shewfleck
I'm pretty sure my UK Netflix subscription became more expensive because Comcast are arseholes.
JJ2078
That is a very specific set of circumstances that will apply to an amazingly small amount of people... oh, and "cause you won't? Should we?
Solomon031
Womp-womp.
BronzeLeaguePro
I am fairly certain that the EU would throw a bitch fit large enough to scare Trump's hairdresser (a fearless person if there ever was one)
Theme777
There's literally a law for EU-citizens that guarantee net-neutrality. So they'd have to cut service off for EU-citizens to enforce it.
NewCrobuzonCitizen
I mean they can just rent some servers in EU to host. Or basically anywhere outside US.
Tikityler
That is not what that person means. Servers in EU, customers in US. Throttle customer's connection to your website.
BayazTheBenevolent
Once net neutrality dies in the US the EU will follow suit. Preparations are already being made in Germany.
PreciousPotato
Oh, please. I know way too many guys who sound like you to take you seriously. Always grumbling and complaining, but it's always just /1
BayazTheBenevolent
First of all, you don't know shit about me so stop assuming to know how I think. Second, the discussion is far from over in Germany and
PreciousPotato
some ominous conspiracy theory and a "you'll see". The net neutrality discussion is already over and done, in favour of net neutrality, /2
Toothicus
I highly doubt it. The EU has diverged from the US on many issues, it would not suddenly decide that neutering innovation is great.
PegLegSteg
This isn't neutering innovation it's monetizing current infrastructure
BayazTheBenevolent
No need to downvote me for stating facts. I live in Germany and lawmakers are continuously working to erode internet freedom.
JellyGiblets
The world is a bigger place than just the US
areyousurethiswaterssanitary
freedom has no size limit
TheGrizzlyKiwi
*excluding pacific islands and Nz apparently
EClaire1073
Apparently it does, otherwise we wouldn't be having this problem in the first place.
Beekerseeker
Good observation...
CottonTShirtz
Yeah, but a lot of internet companies are HQ'd in the US and consider US consumers to be their primary demographic.
LokiShade
That's Commie talk.
pugofstardock
Does the US know?
theresaghostinthere
It doesn't appear so...
LokiShade
We, in fact, do not.
ThisIsNotTheUserYouAreLookingForOrIsIt
Not so much freedom now Merican's Need to rename you to MeriCant's!
nosquirrelbones
Good burn. It's like U.S, and North Korea are the same country in so many ways.
DuckyofDeath123
Ah, another Yank who thinks there is EITHER the US (total freedom) OR NK (total no freedom). Like, the rest of the world doesn't exist.
nosquirrelbones
I'm not a Yank. I also, said that U.S, and NK are the same tongue in cheek...so I think you've confused yourself here mate.
DuckyofDeath123
"oh shit I got called out so let'spretend I was joking!"
nosquirrelbones
How? I'm not American. U.S, and North Korea do have lots of similarities? You're confused kid.
Verelse
Total freedom in the US? Where do I sign up? We have to go to certain "zones" to use our rights of assembly and free speech.
DuckyofDeath123
Ask the squirrel guy. I've been to the US. Sordid place full of fascist twats running border control.
Verelse
Dude, I'm American. I was pointing out that we have less freedom than people claim.
nosquirrelbones
I'm not a yank...