Nov 23, 2022 11:52 PM
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Nonsequiterconcarne24
Is that a name or a food additive
Ponderpoo
Fuck Mt. Rushmore. It's incredibly underwhelming as well. Go to the Crazy Horse monument instead.
MelfsAcidArrow
Wait till I tell you about Crazy Horse
YeOldeImgurian
Its also kind of creepy to carve giant faces of politicians into a mountain in the first place but everyone seems fine with it.
nintyuk
To be Fair they were a nation without history so they wanted to make their marks on it.
ivyvine0
Yes, it was a sacred space to Native Americans, the Black Hills of South Dakota. Read Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee by Dee Brown. 1/2
Many more stories like this. It's an eye-opener. 2/2
AnonOmis1000
I want mount Rushmore given back to the natives. If they want to blow it up, I wouldn't care.
weidermeijer
We did the Native Americans sooooo wrong. We have never been a decent country.
OptimusPom
why is every goddamn historic fact of America involved with racism? Also please don't answer, I thin I already know....
JayEnfield
Turns out you can get really really rich if you don't mind fuckloads of exploitation and genocide.
Syko73
IIRC it was the same guy who started the carving of the confederate generals on Stone Mountain in GA
00LimaRomeo
Jeez the Seppoes have some weirdly-named miscreants.
CuddlyPervert
I wouldn't want it torn down.. but I think the least we can do is have all the admission fees and such go to the tribe it was stolen from.
Comagirl
This is that "woke" history that the GQP doesn't want future generations to know about.
dfhowes
Yup, just ask Gov. Noem about it. She'll pretend she doesn't know what you're talking about.
Fasrill
Probably, along with things like the Trail of Tears, and the true horrors of slavery.
Biggless9
Lernin' that would be Critical Race Theory!!!!!!
Bmxrider70763
Is this the critical race theory that the gop doesn't want taught in schools?
almostalone
It was so beautiful before.
LuciusNeedful
Carved into a mountain sacred to natives by a racist who chose presidents instrumental in sealing the fate of the natives. Just sickening.
Okay I'm genuinely curious, what things did Lincoln do that negatively impacted the natives? Not American so all I really know about him 1/2
connected to the Civil War.
maureoko
CrimsonShortOne
It was also considered sacred land...
evocatiranch
The white buffalo woman comes from there, and the causeway to the afterlife is there. These posts make me cry every year thinking of the
generational pain the Lakota Sioux have endured. My grandpa is still alive, he was raised by his grandma who was shot at wounded knee.
TheDaharMaster
I wouldn’t be the least bit mad if a few individuals dynamited that whole travesty.
TotallyNotGeorge
The Adam ruins about Rushmore is great! https://youtu.be/A8QQBRIqZmw
coolblue72
I live 20 min from Rushmore. SD History in HS (which was an elective) was the ONLY reason my friends & I know this. Gov Noem calls it CRT.
zoidburgerandfries
Gutsom Borglum is some next level Star Trek shit
ifmusicbethefoodofloveplayon
We need a new history show called "Tainted History" to challenge our fairy tale notions of historical people, places and events.
arfysdad
People's History of America by Howard Zinn. Lies My Teacher Told Me by James Loewen. A True History of the United States by Daniel Sjursen.
Educate yourself.
warrenwoodworks8888
it was started after hundreds of confederate statues were put up around the country
kristProblemLord
What the hell happened in 1910?
Whyyouhavenokindness
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/confederate-statues/ source of above graph
tlamstrike
The rise of the 2nd Klan, 'Birth of a Nation', and the presidency of Woodrow Wilson.
GreyKnightTemplar666
The fact there are still Confederate stateus being dedicated in the 2000s is disgusting
Shpielers
...you're joking right? ...right?
BHPaperstacks
Oh you mean about them still dedicating them.... I almost downvoted too
QueenOfTheFey
Can you explain to a non-American WHY you guys have confederate statues? But not like..."red coat" ones?
battery1979
Well....the Red Coats were brits.
Syrpynt
Bc we still have the enemies among us. I don't see British flaunting their flag saying we lost the American Revolutionary war. lol
But comparing inbred racist southerners with aristocrats, Aristocrats accept their losses with dignity and move on.
Rediix
I don't think you've interacted with any aristocrats if you think that
rakas90
Interesting that the numbers seem to decline post-war, multiple tiimes.
HlyAlch
I proposed to my wife here. Not to magical any more.
nevets767
It's not even finished. That giant pile of rubble beneath it? Debris that should've been thrown away.
PajamaSammy
pile of rubble? the rocks?
Yeah. According to Adam ruins everything there was more planned, but it got canned partway through. so they just left it there
loveisallwereallyhave
Gutzon Borglum. LMAO. No wonder he didn't like anybody. “Here’s my kid, Gutzon Borglum.” In his entire life he had but one friend >
Grodflek Floogsmear.
BearableBear
Racists have no honor.
zHurk777
The ferdinand marcos sculpture caused me to rethink MtRushmore.
>> marcos was the dictator of The Philippines. The sculpture has since been destroyed. Not sure if it has been rebuilt.
UnattendedDeviant
Yeah, he also did the carving of honoring Robert E. Lee and the Confederacy here in Ga. on Stone Mt.
Wikipedo
I know this from the movie Fled
Qendou
It's unfathomable that Stone Mountain, GA was ruined in this manor.
LetumComplexo
Ok, so on the one hand fuck *everything* that stands for but also that is *super* impressive work. What the fuck?
newsguycraigevans
Yep. Fuck those traitors.
robingal1
I was invited to this place "for its nature & history"; I was ready to home after a few minutes. (Nice hiking, though)
KevinStrexcorp
Shame about the content cause that's actually quite a nice bas relief sculpture.
LoopStricken
The horses are well done.
PupuBlue
Remove the dudes, leave the horses in?
Badprenup
Replace the dudes with horses riding the horses
kubi
To paraphrase John Oliver, that carving was so recent we have color video footage of its completion.
NariEllie
Not quite. He started it, but "financial conflicts" lead to him quiting and destroying his models. They hired Augustus lukeman to finish it
marthisthing
Reputed as a Kkk burn site, stone Mtn was ref in MLK “I have a dream” speech.
See also Chrissie Hynde @ https://youtu.be/Pywkt4aTgXk
More than reputed. It's happened a few times.
TheInvalidUsername
I did an ancestry test once. Found out that Robert E. Lee is my cousin or some shit. Not too particularly excited with that knowledge.
TheWorldAccordingToAtlas
Largest bas-relief artwork in the world. It would be a shame if it were to lose that distinction, one way or another.
StrangerRangerDanger
let's tell John Oliver , his team would fundraise to buy a mountain and put some good figures up.
Nonsequiterconcarne24
Is that a name or a food additive
Ponderpoo
Fuck Mt. Rushmore. It's incredibly underwhelming as well. Go to the Crazy Horse monument instead.
MelfsAcidArrow
Wait till I tell you about Crazy Horse
YeOldeImgurian
Its also kind of creepy to carve giant faces of politicians into a mountain in the first place but everyone seems fine with it.
nintyuk
To be Fair they were a nation without history so they wanted to make their marks on it.
ivyvine0
Yes, it was a sacred space to Native Americans, the Black Hills of South Dakota. Read Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee by Dee Brown. 1/2
ivyvine0
Many more stories like this. It's an eye-opener. 2/2
AnonOmis1000
I want mount Rushmore given back to the natives. If they want to blow it up, I wouldn't care.
weidermeijer
We did the Native Americans sooooo wrong. We have never been a decent country.
OptimusPom
why is every goddamn historic fact of America involved with racism? Also please don't answer, I thin I already know....
JayEnfield
Turns out you can get really really rich if you don't mind fuckloads of exploitation and genocide.
Syko73
IIRC it was the same guy who started the carving of the confederate generals on Stone Mountain in GA
00LimaRomeo
Jeez the Seppoes have some weirdly-named miscreants.
CuddlyPervert
I wouldn't want it torn down.. but I think the least we can do is have all the admission fees and such go to the tribe it was stolen from.
Comagirl
This is that "woke" history that the GQP doesn't want future generations to know about.
dfhowes
Yup, just ask Gov. Noem about it. She'll pretend she doesn't know what you're talking about.
Fasrill
Probably, along with things like the Trail of Tears, and the true horrors of slavery.
Biggless9
Lernin' that would be Critical Race Theory!!!!!!
Bmxrider70763
Is this the critical race theory that the gop doesn't want taught in schools?
almostalone
It was so beautiful before.
LuciusNeedful
Carved into a mountain sacred to natives by a racist who chose presidents instrumental in sealing the fate of the natives.
Just sickening.
Fasrill
Okay I'm genuinely curious, what things did Lincoln do that negatively impacted the natives? Not American so all I really know about him 1/2
Fasrill
connected to the Civil War.
maureoko
CrimsonShortOne
It was also considered sacred land...
evocatiranch
The white buffalo woman comes from there, and the causeway to the afterlife is there. These posts make me cry every year thinking of the
evocatiranch
generational pain the Lakota Sioux have endured. My grandpa is still alive, he was raised by his grandma who was shot at wounded knee.
TheDaharMaster
I wouldn’t be the least bit mad if a few individuals dynamited that whole travesty.
TotallyNotGeorge
The Adam ruins about Rushmore is great! https://youtu.be/A8QQBRIqZmw
coolblue72
I live 20 min from Rushmore. SD History in HS (which was an elective) was the ONLY reason my friends & I know this. Gov Noem calls it CRT.
zoidburgerandfries
Gutsom Borglum is some next level Star Trek shit
ifmusicbethefoodofloveplayon
We need a new history show called "Tainted History" to challenge our fairy tale notions of historical people, places and events.
arfysdad
People's History of America by Howard Zinn. Lies My Teacher Told Me by James Loewen. A True History of the United States by Daniel Sjursen.
arfysdad
Educate yourself.
warrenwoodworks8888
kristProblemLord
What the hell happened in 1910?
Whyyouhavenokindness
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/confederate-statues/ source of above graph
tlamstrike
The rise of the 2nd Klan, 'Birth of a Nation', and the presidency of Woodrow Wilson.
GreyKnightTemplar666
The fact there are still Confederate stateus being dedicated in the 2000s is disgusting
Shpielers
...you're joking right? ...right?
BHPaperstacks
Oh you mean about them still dedicating them.... I almost downvoted too
QueenOfTheFey
Can you explain to a non-American WHY you guys have confederate statues? But not like..."red coat" ones?
battery1979
Well....the Red Coats were brits.
Syrpynt
Bc we still have the enemies among us. I don't see British flaunting their flag saying we lost the American Revolutionary war. lol
Syrpynt
But comparing inbred racist southerners with aristocrats, Aristocrats accept their losses with dignity and move on.
Rediix
I don't think you've interacted with any aristocrats if you think that
rakas90
Interesting that the numbers seem to decline post-war, multiple tiimes.
HlyAlch
I proposed to my wife here. Not to magical any more.
nevets767
It's not even finished. That giant pile of rubble beneath it? Debris that should've been thrown away.
PajamaSammy
pile of rubble? the rocks?
nevets767
Yeah. According to Adam ruins everything there was more planned, but it got canned partway through. so they just left it there
loveisallwereallyhave
Gutzon Borglum. LMAO. No wonder he didn't like anybody. “Here’s my kid, Gutzon Borglum.” In his entire life he had but one friend >
loveisallwereallyhave
Grodflek Floogsmear.
BearableBear
Racists have no honor.
zHurk777
The ferdinand marcos sculpture caused me to rethink MtRushmore.
zHurk777
>> marcos was the dictator of The Philippines. The sculpture has since been destroyed. Not sure if it has been rebuilt.
UnattendedDeviant
Yeah, he also did the carving of honoring Robert E. Lee and the Confederacy here in Ga. on Stone Mt.
Wikipedo
I know this from the movie Fled
Qendou
zHurk777
It's unfathomable that Stone Mountain, GA was ruined in this manor.
LetumComplexo
Ok, so on the one hand fuck *everything* that stands for but also that is *super* impressive work. What the fuck?
newsguycraigevans
Yep. Fuck those traitors.
robingal1
I was invited to this place "for its nature & history"; I was ready to home after a few minutes. (Nice hiking, though)
KevinStrexcorp
Shame about the content cause that's actually quite a nice bas relief sculpture.
LoopStricken
The horses are well done.
PupuBlue
Remove the dudes, leave the horses in?
Badprenup
Replace the dudes with horses riding the horses
kubi
To paraphrase John Oliver, that carving was so recent we have color video footage of its completion.
NariEllie
Not quite. He started it, but "financial conflicts" lead to him quiting and destroying his models. They hired Augustus lukeman to finish it
marthisthing
Reputed as a Kkk burn site, stone Mtn was ref in MLK “I have a dream” speech.
marthisthing
See also Chrissie Hynde @ https://youtu.be/Pywkt4aTgXk
UnattendedDeviant
More than reputed. It's happened a few times.
TheInvalidUsername
I did an ancestry test once. Found out that Robert E. Lee is my cousin or some shit. Not too particularly excited with that knowledge.
TheWorldAccordingToAtlas
Largest bas-relief artwork in the world. It would be a shame if it were to lose that distinction, one way or another.
StrangerRangerDanger
let's tell John Oliver , his team would fundraise to buy a mountain and put some good figures up.