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Jul 21, 2021 5:41 PM
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nevergoingtogiveyouupnevergoingtoletyoudown
Elon is kinda doing it, but still, its going pretty slow even with an ambitious billionaire whos endgame goal is to colonize mars.
fatInIC
I hate Amazon.
VinnyVeritas
Agreed, now can we all get together and send Bezos into the furthest corner of the galaxy?
TheFeelsGoodMan
All that to ride a dick for ten minutes.
Turbolibros
soupnazi
All you need is a possible nuclear war.
SmellsLikeBeef
He calls his employee bathroom breaks "space-breaks" bc he makes everyone pee in bottles at their stations
PunnyTiger
a billion dollars a minute for his 5 hour trip
Goodthingsdontalwayscometoyou
Silly comparison, silly conclusion
mumbojumbo29
The only time we ever hoped for a shuttlr explosion
UnreasonablyImprudentPerson
RealTurdFerguson
As foretold
Quenya3675
We were happy to get the Cosmonauts and Astronauts back however.
pgkobrien
That was 1960's government, now they could fuck up a 2 car funeral.
samwyze
I was told I paid for this.
LionOfRome
Faster alone, further together. We gotta start thinking of the long term and the big picture or our species is fucked.
Pizza0Style0Burrito
Imagine what we could do if billionaires paid taxes and we didn't blow it on stupid wars!
TheSupremeCrabMaster
Next time, make it a one-way trip.
Speedmetal05
Apes together strong!
Musklim
But they're doing it with public funds. Checkmate communist.
Piotheman
wait? what?
Musklim
Governments (mostly USA) are funding them (Musk, Bezos, Branson).
Piotheman
Ok Im' naive i thought they ware using their own billions but they're using taxpayer's money that could fund NASA? Any source on that?
Musklim
Exactly. I don't have the links now, neither I have time to re-search them, but I'm bookmarking this question for the next time...
Musklim
... and it's even worse bc they're walking on military contracts and deals, then many budgets are secret.
ImNotStalkingYouBTWYoureOutOfMilk
The 60's space race was in ICBM pissing contest between the US and the Soviets
LordHavelock
Yeah, and it accomplished a lot more for a lot less money.
Shaodyn
The space race of the 60s was paid for by taxpayers. The space race of today was paid for by tax dodgers.
mycatwontletmeclosemybedroomdoor
Still paid for by taxpayers, though..
Shaodyn
Fair point.
PangolinBan
In 1969 astronauts were made of the right stuff.
roketboy1987
The Right Stuff was a great movie.
chrismofer
they still are. NASA is just underfunded as always since apollo cancelation.
balover1996
Now THIS is a point right here, thanks pangolin. Will you go to prom with me?
TheGriffin
I mean, the Gagarin beat all of them
HasteTheFool
Same stuff as today. Only thing missing is money for beating the c ...I mean space exploration.
Elroydb
Saturn V rocket was made by North American Aviation and Douglas, the lunar lander by Northrop Grumman. Shuttle was Rockwell
LordHavelock
Exactly. Public private partnership.
LordHavelock
Right, a public private partnership. None of those companies would ever have built those things, let alone to work together, without NASA.
GandalfTheWhitest
You guys still believe the moon is real?
Orzufancylad
He didn't do it alone. He had to make his employees pee into bottles because they couldn't have breaks. He even mentioned his employees.
tarataqa
no shit
icommentwithsteveharvey
This
Skizzlesnap
He didn’t do it at all. He pushed funding to the company he owns and rode up there like he actually did something.
Ludwigofthepotatoppl
Nah, his company is doing that because they can. He could have gone to space just the same paying them well and allowing them proper breaks.
clubracer
He mentioned his employees paid for his little trip, what a douchebag.
ScienceIsntAboutWhyItsAboutWhyNot
He literally said to his employees "you payed for this!". What an absolute turd.
fuelpergallon
He then used that money to pay an army of engineers who he didn’t thank.
lildumptruck
The engineers were probably the only employees who make a decent wage though. So he’s probably bitter about that.
fuelpergallon
They still had to watch their boss go to space with roughly zero percent chance of any of them being invited.
earthlingextraordinaire
pwn4science
its AWS that makes the big bucks for Jeff, not the online store. its companies like Imgur hosting with AWS that paid this, tbh.
Frederf
I'm imagining a direct line of causation like all the piss bottles were the rocket fuel or something.
Markamanic
Also paying people who actually know wtf they're talking about to do it for him.
cowardlylegionnaire
He also used corrupt influence over a US Congresswoman from Washington to secure an additional several billion dollars from the government.
barnwolf
He doesn't make them piss in bottles. They can always get fired.
GL1TCH3D
Then they’re no longer employees ?
barnwolf
*Most of them will be fired anyways, cause work there is incredibly seasonal
MrSebi
Allegedly Bezos personally wants low level employees fired after a bit instead of being promoted because he considers them stupid and lazy.
SoupCanMan
He might, but this is common practice at shitty jobs. Fire employees before they get their raises. Keeps quartly profits higher.
juggertroll2
I hate bezos but this is a blatant mischaractization. He think low level employees should leave after a few years because once they get
juggertroll2
Comfortable they do less work and look for more ways to game the system. Which is like, totally true with any worker in any field.
thokling
All the people did was generate the money. That's like saying livestock are responsible for feeding people.
NavaHo07
What year? Nice
InTheDistanceAPlaintiveEnglishHorn
And we're not even mentioning Gagarin
SithElephant
I note that NASA aims to spend $100B (SLS+orion+gateway+...) in putting around a dozen landers on the moon with a total payload of 5 tons.
bekkayya
"a dozen landers" kinda sells short the longterm projects (and the funding secured for them) that are going on. its missions too.
SithElephant
Well, ... If you read through what the ongoing support is, it is ongoing support in order mostly to support those landing missions. There
SithElephant
is a very small and limited station, which is not designed for even semipermenant manning,
SithElephant
there is an electric propulsion element which is almost predicated on stuff in lunar orbit being murderously epensive. There are proposals
SithElephant
for useful components amongst this, but the main architecture is very much designed around 'how do we get stuff for the moon for ten billion
SithElephant
SpaceX, if their goals are attained, can put a hundred tons on the moon for $50M. NASA is comedically inefficient.
Ireadtoomuch
It's almost ones a publicly owned company with little to no oversite on what they spend on equipment or credentials for the scientists
IMakeLotsOfReferencesAndRemakes
If pigs magically flew out of my ass I could solve world hunger. Ifs don't mean shit. NASA can, and has, repeatedly delivered. And the 1/2
IMakeLotsOfReferencesAndRemakes
investment almost always produces much more useful stuff worth a lot more than what they spent. Big differences. 2/2
crookednixon
That's a big unproven "if".
SithElephant
Quite. However most components of SLShavenot actually flown either. Basing your plans around a rocket with a minimum cost of $2B nonreusabl
Miller16of16
That's a big "if", and NASA owns their own work, building institutional knowledge. If was just about $/ton the Russians are still cheaper.
OmenJones
charlie2979
'If' being the key word there. Cos Nasa will do what they said they'd do. There's a decent chance Musk will fail and call the director of
charlie2979
Nasa a paedo.
WhistlinDickC
Using technology pioneered and perfected by NASA*
backswingaplenty
How much has SpaceX spent just getting to this point to be able to launch for $50M?
SithElephant
Around $5B. Much, admittedly government money, but they only got paid that money by being the cheapest offering.
TheBurritoConfederacy
The contract cost structure of the commercial/cargo programs required the competing companies to put up their own money as well
backswingaplenty
So a bit different than $50M?
SithElephant
Per launch to the moon. Arbitrarily repeatable by reusable vehicles.
SigilLovesSpace
You're an idiot.
Codybill
Hey Maxie when was NASA's last maned flight?