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italwaysabouttheblacks
fuck that we need a strong military presence
flamingflamingo
Yep this is a post where I'm not going to read any of the comments.
DarkLynx13
let them come home.. 12 years is long enough
nothisispatrickk1
YES. I support our troops so much I want them all home safely with their loved ones, not fighting for bullshit politicians!
imnotryan
Cool. Start now. One of the presidential candidates voted for Iraq and then personally straight murked a handful in Benghazi.
Hybris51129
Maybe we can stop believing that "Hearts & Minds" is a worth while strategy.
scrim4
Sure, let's take a cue from the alternative approach. Einsarzgruppe FTW!
urugami
A soldier knows that it's better for some of them to be there than for a lot of us to be there
TheStaffmaster
if you don't fund the military you can't have a war.
ThisIsThePlaceWhereIBelong
Hello jobless facebook parent.
Perkeleer
The goverment doesn't make fallen soldiers. Gravity does.
Blacole1985
yeah... we are volunteers for a reason. A military with no war is an untested force.
nin10yen
F
itsprobablysarcastic
That and stop glorifying war and weapons
VultureTX
yet FPS shooters are played around the world and worldwide people partake in competition using force.
terminal1802
Yes.
Piornet
And so many soldiers whose lives have been destroyed by pointless wars blindly support politicians who want to send more to pointless wars.
skaroreg
Can't we just play football and to the winners go the spoils?
Linson
Tragedy in the World Cup as Germany have once again taken over half the world...
cheeseguy3412
As long as the sport is clearly identified. Football gear in the US = Armor. A few tackles, and the soccer team would be down.
skaroreg
I did leave the type of football intentionally vague
cobrapup
Wow. Props to content creator.
8nyx
teuro
There's nothing a war needs more than someone willing to pull the trigger.
TairaMai
Elections matter, vote.
DefinetlyNotObsessed
Well many World War One generals tried fighting on the front
DefinetlyNotObsessed
Lol I was replying to someone either imgur fucked up or I'm retarded
MandaloreTheODST
A ship in harbor is safe but that is not what ships are built for. -John A. Shedd. This qoute felt appropriate. That's not to say I don't /2
MandaloreTheODST
Agree that we shouldn't send our troops to wars we don't belong in,but once we've been there long enough all the deaths mean nothing if we/3
MandaloreTheODST
Find a solution to the problem. Whether through war or politics.
PapaTimDankopus
yeaah one of my friends said I couldn't be in the navy because I'm a pussy and immediately my response was this: (1)
PapaTimDankopus
"No. My father and mother were both in the navy, 92-01. I have no plans to join because I do not want orders from tweedle-email and" (2)
PapaTimDankopus
"Tweedle mexico."
MandaloreTheODST
I'm confused by your message.
PapaTimDankopus
TL;DR: Friend tried to roast me and I left his ass salty w/cheese on a sesame seed bun.
MandaloreTheODST
I shall give you an upvote then. I'm not sure why you're being downvoted
zetsubus
OP either doesn't understand war/history or chooses to adopt an overly cynical ignorant and simplistic view of gov and interstate relations
Grubenwolf
Just think. All those people would probably still been alive if humans weren't such cunts to each other.
CitizenDickbag
Soldiers also need to start refusing to fight immoral, unjust wars of choice. "Following orders" isn't exculpatory.
ThoughtfulSatan
Yeah.... I would rather not go the brig or be shot dude...
funnystoryaboutthat
It's a little more complicated than that buddy
CitizenDickbag
It isn't really. Go kill people for an unjust purpose, you're the bad guy. I know people have a problem admitting that, doesn't change it.
funnystoryaboutthat
Ask an 18 year old private about their understanding of the world. It's pretty limited
BitchButcher
Republicans are Pro Life because alive babies can grow up to be dead soldiers.
paul289
Except that desire for war is split pretty evenly between parties, and we believe babies are people. Your strawman is horrible.
BitchButcher
Not strawman .... I was quoting Georg Carlin badly.
paul289
You quoted a strawman. That means you used a strawman. Just because George Carlin said it doesn't make it irrefutable truth.
BriLikeAnEagle
...and maybe to not question their strength for getting PTSD when you dodged the Vietnam draft.
aarg
He wasn't questioning their strength, he was say that they have struggles and we need to help them get strength to overcome.
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BriLikeAnEagle
Not directly quoting him, referring to numerous articles I saw. I'll take the blame for not fully looking into the context, though.
kakkapyllypillu
Media is getting their job done, spreading misinformation.
taukohurina
Just don't sign in to kill or to be killed.
bigearsmcgee
There's this thing called the draft....
CitizenDickbag
US hasn't had the draft since Vietnam.
Katalliaan
It's still in place, they just haven't had to call on it because there's more than enough people willingly signing up.
taukohurina
I was drafted. Never killed anyone.
Pristineus
I read about a woman who was fiercely against taking a life so she insisted on being an army medic. Do share your story too.
taukohurina
I’m a fuel truck driver. Number one target so never too close to action.
notapreppie
Don't know why you got downvoted for serving your country while not killing anybody. +1 to you sir.
taukohurina
thank you.
hamper100
how to end war: the ones that declare it must fight on the front.
percivaldanvers
English and French kings did that in the 100 years war. It was still bloody and horrible and lasted 100 years.
SchrodingerMil
Eisenhower.
MandaloreTheODST
Patton?
footfoe
So you want the country to be run by enlisted? They aren't the brightest bunch.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Nowhere did they say that. They just want the old fucks who sit behind desks and decide who gets to die for them actually have to go fight
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
themselves. Might change their perspective a bit.
andrewtater
Careful. I enjoyed Kandahar. 9/10 would go back, highly recommend
bloatedplutocrat
Julius Gaius Caeser was pretty notorious for joining his men in the stabbing to inspire them to fight when things were looking bad.
swedeonamoose
sowas gustavus adolphus riding in the front of his cavalry,then again he got lost in mist and was shot so leader should be kept of the front
Ihavewaytoomanyfavoritestosort
There was a proposed amendment that would have done just that if it weren'5 shot down.
bloatedplutocrat
Oh and I think it was Marcus Crassus, one of the wealthiest men in history, who lead an ill fated expedition to steal Persian riches.
Welley
Maybe in today's day and age but there are a lot of leaders in the past that were Frontline.
notapreppie
That scene from Band of Brothers where Maj. Winters has to be ordered by Gen. WhatsHisName to not rescue his troops from bad leadership...
MandaloreTheODST
THEN HE SENDS IN LT.SPIERS WHO IS BASICALLY A GOD. Idk why that was all caps but Ima leave it like that...
RaptorCav
Wasn't a General... was the Colonel.
notapreppie
I sit corrected.
RaptorCav
Hooah.
notapreppie
I find it interesting that the USAF is the only branch of out military where SOP is to send their officers off to die instead of enlisted.
bloatedplutocrat
I don't think any branch of any military except for a certain Japanese one had the SOP of dying.
notapreppie
It's probably a good thing I'm not a military leader, then.
Ghostwish
It sounds cute, but the reason is because enlisted aren't trusted with multi-million dollar aircraft.
RagingAsian
Maintaining an aircraft is a lot of trust I would say.
Ghostwish
And I would say you can't crash an aircraft into the ground if you're the wrench monkey.
RagingAsian
Either way, both sides are trusted. You can't fix the aircraft and say you aren't trusted with multimillion dollar equipment. You can do
RagingAsian
You'd be surprised.
RagingAsian
Just as much damage on the ground as you can in the air.
notapreppie
No, just repairing, refueling and arming them. Actually, it's something my friend in the USAF told me.
Ghostwish
Yup. And I was in the USMC. The pilots that get shot down and killed? Officers. All of them. Enlisted fix em, officers die in em.
notapreppie
That's a level of trust I've never had to personally place in another person. "Fix this correctly or we fail the mission and I die." o_0
makeyourownpath
There will always be war. It is the dark side of survival. We do not live in a perfect world, we are not perfect.
vauhtihirmu
Careful politicking and systematic research into non-violent strategies, as for example Gene Sharp has done, might provide an alternative.
FoodInc
This also just makes me think of drone warfare, semi-autonomous killing machines and the like. He isn't asking for the end of war
blockatiel
War, war never changes
WhileYouWereReadingThisLongNameIstoleYourCookies
But if we kill everyone....
Pristineus
There will always be hunger, doesn't mean I want the world to stop trying to minimize it
CreamAndShit
He's not saying that, I reckon he meant that we must always be prepared.
Shitlips3000
That is the most pitiful thing I've read in a long time.
HeyDontBeADick
There will always be conflict, but there are ways to have different kinds of conflict than wars, where fewer die, as in economic competition
HeyDontBeADick
Look out for the people who prefer war over competition
vauhtihirmu
Also political competition, parliaments are a very useful mechanism for avoiding civil wars.
HeyDontBeADick
True
CrimeBrulee
Only if you accept scarcity as a given, but modern scarcity is very different from ancient scarcity; future scarcity will be different still
vauhtihirmu
Don't know why you were downvoted, I think you speak the truth.
brap
Why?
Zachakx
So might as well give up on trying and just be okay with senseless deaths. Great idea. Ever thought of enlisting?
makeyourownpath
Didn't say we should not try , war sucks. I did enlist in 72, I didn't want to be drafted . I didn't want to move to Canada either.
iamOzymandiasLookOnMyWorksDumbassAndDespair
Good, because we didn't want you.
KevynDietz
From one Canadian to another: stop being a douchebag, buddy.
Zachakx
It certainly does. I had the good fortune of not being deployed when I was in. But, yes. We should certainly try.
CreamAndShit
We must always be ready.
taukohurina
One can always hope. History is just history. Anything is possible.
vladimusvonhackenslash
It's the dark side, sure, but we don't have to succumb to it all the time. Things can be resolved peacefully if we try.
Geo80
Not always. Not with some people.
KevynDietz
Witness Syria. That peaceful resolution will come around ANY day now.
VultureTX
not possible when their dogma says a certain race/people are to be defeated @apocalypse. or sociopaths rule the nation (Nazi germany)
potatoardvarkhybrid
please don't include me in your "we"
taukohurina
there is not enough up votes in the world, my friend. Not enough.
makeyourownpath
Ok then, everyone in this world is not perfect ..except potarodvarkhybrid.
potatoardvarkhybrid
no, it's fuck heads like you who then stir the pot and start the wars
makeyourownpath
I don't start wars, never did. Don't stir the pot either ,but your " fuckhead" remark could cause a warmonger to start a conflict with you.
Zachakx
Maybe he's upset that people keep killing their each other and involving innocents over some petty bs and you're saying it's impossible to