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planetmark
Fly over states vote against their best interests. Always have, always will. These jackasses count on it now.
FranksFluidsLLC
Dude's face is proof that reptilians run the US government
CaptainMaximum
look at that geriatric fuck. looks like he just shit himself
TehSeksyManz
Chuckled +1
DVSBSTrD
He also used the healthcare of the 9/11 first responders as leverage to get his highway bill passed.
Nykidemus
holy mother of shit.
DVSBSTrD
And no, I have no idea what either of those have to do with highways.
DVSBSTrD
Eh, actually it was the U.S. ban on oil exports http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/major-highway-legislation-missing-zadroga-act
Oxidati0n
To be fair minimum wage shouldn't be raised nation wide, every states economy is to different.
Asciiman
This man is a craven piece of shit that is ruining what little good there is left in government
BurntRamen
Well, I'm sure Trump will straighten him out... right? *nervous laughter and worried look ensues*
wwoodd97
Why did you post a turtle picture?
Okebel
ClapTrapConjurerOfTheDarkArts
Almost all of congress are scumbags. In 2 years we need to trough 90% of the incumbents.
MostlyAngryButNiceAboutIt
So many Republicans are paid for by oil. Paid to deny and misinform.
SoundFuture
Where I am it's more that your entire constituency works for O&G directly or indirectly. It's political suicide to take a hard-line stance.
MostlyAngryButNiceAboutIt
I hear that but it's also directly affecting climate change and we only have one planet. Also here's this for what it's worth (1)
SoundFuture
Oh I know, and what's terrifying is they spend about 1/5th of what the financial sector spends to maintain its stranglehold.
Ameliasdad
People saying no other candidate, vote the other POS in and get a new one later. Get this fuck out of office.
LordGrizzly
He has a very punchable face. 10/10 would punch
KikiLovesBacon
Backpfeifengesicht.
hermesneutique
Is this the German word for "punchable face"?? God German is so on point some times!
EricFromAccounts
Prost!
TheFabulousFuehrer
Rüttling on the Watschenbaum, too.
imnotmattdamon
Term limits would stall corruption, they'd just ensure the few candidates who represented constituents had a short half-life.
imnotmattdamon
And with no seniority there's be less unification than we have now. Why does this keep coming up? It's nonsense!
Candyclysm
I fucking hate this man with the fire of a thousand burning suns.
keseysVenisonchili
You win the Internet for this
BoobiesMeow
Drain the swamp!
BattloidKouji
I know we've argued politics quite a bit here on imgur, but I like that you're at least consistent. +1
BoobiesMeow
Thanks pal I always upvote civility on Imgur +2!
QuiteADapperAsshole
Congressional pay probably shouldn't be up to vote in Congress in general.
GoCorral
Who else is going to do it though? I guess you could have each house vote in pay raises for the other but that could create other problems.
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GoCorral
Yeah, that also creates other problems, but it does remove the "self pay problem."
Mendovian
It should be a completely volunteer gig. Take time off from being a lawyer, doctor, plumber, whatever, do the congress bit for a couple 1/2
Mendovian
years, and then go back to your old job
Wookington
You are aware that would prevent anybody except the wealthy from taking up a Congressional position, that would make it purely plutocratic
Mendovian
Nah, paid time, like military reserve
earlofhoundstooth
It is like the only part where they forgot to put checks and balances in place from the other branches of the government.
Vyrro
If passed, it doesn't take effect until the next term. Still, being a state rep is a part time job and should be treated as such.
Stratacaster79
Piece of shit. Too many awful politicians who line their own pockets while screwing the little guys any way they can.
DannyDoggo
Term Limits
NERDRAGEohacat
Term limits don't affect the special interest groups and think tanks that dictate policy, people like the Koch brothers and Grover Norquist
NERDRAGEohacat
transcend such restrictions; if anything it makes them more powerful because newcomers will never have the clout to resist them.
imnotmattdamon
Because if you're trying to stop corruption the best way is to pass a law about something else.
DannyDoggo
What are you talking about?
Mcbowflex
Preventing lifetime politicians certainly limits actions only to get re-elected.
DannyDoggo
How can a politician get re-elected if there are term limits.? The president has a term limit of 8 years. He's not gonna get re-elected.
Mcbowflex
Yeah the president has a limit of 2 terms. Senators and representatives do not. That's why those greedy bastards make it a life long career.
imnotmattdamon
I'm fine with representative making working for the people his/her life's ambition. I don't like politicians being influenced by money.
Thedude144
As a moderate, Fuck this guy and all his buddies!!!
Thispostisaboutacat
Thanks Kentucky!
PoopFrosting
yay for congress ladies and gentlemen
FlappinBurgers
Worst approval rating in history... "But hey, my guy's OK, it's the other side that needs to go"
Tonberryc
The party-bias in our country is terrifying. Political parties have become religions. You pick a side, and everything else is wrong.
wsv3036
He's a senator, not a congressman
fyndir
Technically congress refers to both, and then there's the house of representatives and the senate. Colloquially you are correct.
wsv3036
Hey I learned something, cool! And I'm the words of Ben Carson, I want to thank you for including me in the debate.
CauseImaLaaady
On behalf of KY, I am so sorry. I hate this twunt, but I am in the minority here.
DavidBowiesBulgeInLabyrinth
Commenting so I don't forget the word twunt...
TortiIIaTheHun
kind of surreal that Kentucky has a Senator that the front page basically despises, and another (Rand Paul) that it begrudgingly respects
FlappinBurgers
I wonder if you're in the majority and gerrymandering is what's keeping him in power
Poodlestrike
You can't really gerrymander senate races, tbh. Though the senate is already kind of pre-gerrymandered, in that it favors small states.
johnvictor
Have been trying for years, I can only cancel so much stupid. He has been in office before I was born.
ThePotatoBandit
Same, in KY a Republican voting democrat is like a UoL Cardinal Fan cheering for UK. against the Cardinals. Not.A.Fucking.Chance.
timlovesraffi
Nope, I hate him, too. Though I am a transplant.
Poodlestrike
Twunt... I'm using that now, pending review.
CrazyCatLad
On behalf of Pennsyltuckey, same.
thedarkcanuck
I like this word, twunt
CauseImaLaaady
I stole it from a movie haha
CrazyCatLad
Twat + cunt I'd assume. Twunticle sucker.
CauseImaLaaady
Haha exactly
imgurnaknockuout
Publicly stated that he would kill any term limits bill in committee. He needs to be voted out next election
anActualHumanPerson
I just hate greedy turtles. Greedy turtles are the worst.
robotzombies
uuuuuuhhhhhyyup
CrazyCatLad
uuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhyuuuup
gmccollum
Raising the minimum wage would hurt a lot of businesses. That being said, this guy is an overpaid fucknut.
Mcbowflex
Sure will. Look at what McDonalds is doing in states with high min wage. Automated self ordering. They eliminate jobs that aren't worth it
BattloidKouji
Idea, let's tie congress' wage to the average increase in worker's wages each year.
PleaseMrLewisIsMyFatherImDoctorLewis
Congressmen get like 50x more in campaign contributions than salary. Let's fix that while were at it.
Tunaccat
Public servants should be forced to live in public housing.
blahtotheblahblah
Or make their wages the same as the national average for minimum wage. But it's ok, because min wage is enough to get by, right?
HeThrustsHisFistsAgainstthePostsandStillInsistsHeSeesYourMom
Question for you Imgur friends: should we raise min wage?
TheGrinReaper
ShaydeLiger
No one talks about inflation when they're talking about the minimum wage as far as earning power and it's kinda surprising.
Candyclysm
Right. Wouldn't prices skyrocket because so many people will suddenly have drastically more buying power?
whyteraven74
Nope.
whyteraven74
You can just look at history, minimum wage increases have minimal effect on inflation.
LtCmdrQueeg
No. Lower it or get rid of it, but don't raise it
HeThrustsHisFistsAgainstthePostsandStillInsistsHeSeesYourMom
Have we moved past the original reasons it was implemented?
ByrnesSteel
To keep women and blacks out of the workforce?
Locolarue
Why do you think it was implemented?
LilSis061016
Does it need to be raised locally more? Yes in some places. Nationally? Yes - it doesn't match inflation and hasn't for years.
HeThrustsHisFistsAgainstthePostsandStillInsistsHeSeesYourMom
and the argument that raising wages require raising prices for the consumer?
BattloidKouji
Prices will raise, but not at the same level as the increased income workers get, because labor is usually a small % of the total cost. (1)
BattloidKouji
so it ends up being a net positive in buying power. (2)
LilSis061016
Prices have followed inflation, so there is a disproportionate level of profit. Prices don't need raising, people need to be less greedy.
Fishworshipper
And what say you to the fact that raising the minimum wage automatically makes everything more expensive?
LilSis061016
That was the question I responded to. Let me be clear: it doesn't need to. Wages are such a small part of selling costs. Prices have 1/
HeThrustsHisFistsAgainstthePostsandStillInsistsHeSeesYourMom
people need to be less greedy? who needs to be less greedy?
LilSis061016
Corporations, businesses. Some small businesses may be exceptions. For the most part, keeping wages low while profit rise is greedy.
Hemelsblauw
Yes
HeThrustsHisFistsAgainstthePostsandStillInsistsHeSeesYourMom
ok, why? haha
Hemelsblauw
Because people should be able to live on a 40 hour job salary.
Fishworshipper
People will never be able to live off of minimum wage. The higher minimum wage goes, the higher prices get.
HeThrustsHisFistsAgainstthePostsandStillInsistsHeSeesYourMom
the job had an advertised wage and they chose it, why should they protest (strike, not work) for higher wage when they knew it going in?
Hemelsblauw
Because choosing a bad paying job instead of starving is choosing between bad and worse. It's not as if you can just choose a wellpaying job
grizzlynoize
No, because it doesn't solve the economic problem. It will only add to problem. Need to reform out economy.
whyteraven74
The economy problem is people not having money to spend. Anyone who doesn't pay proper wages shouldn't be in business. No exceptions.
grizzlynoize
No, the problem is the zero regulations on CEOs and banks raping our earnings with overpriced necessities. Not the minimum wage...
HeThrustsHisFistsAgainstthePostsandStillInsistsHeSeesYourMom
how could it add to the problem? higher wages means higher spending money, does that not help the economy?
josithefox
Higher wages for the same amount of work means less workers to keep the same bottom line.
NordicWillness
Raising min wage increases unemployment for the lowest skilled workers. Which is normally teens and minorities in the US.
paul289
If someone's labor isn't worth minimum wage, they simply won't get hired. Instead of some money, they have none.
Locolarue
Some people just don't get this. You have to judge the effects, not the intentions.
kikiohearts
This is so true. My new house( 10 rooms, 4 bed rooms, 3 and 1/2 bathrooms, a bar in the basement, powder room and sun room on (1/2)
kikiohearts
1 1/2 acres of land the mortgage is only $430 a month. Less then I was paying in rent for a shitty 1 room apartment in Chicago. (2/3)
kikiohearts
and its only 25 miles from Chicago where I work.
PleaseMrLewisIsMyFatherImDoctorLewis
I used to think "higher min wage hurts jobs. If I had to raise both Dan and Jeff's pay, I'd have to fire Dan" but I fired Dan anyway. So yes
FusRoDoodles
The problem with this debate is the cost of living is vastly different from location to location. It's not one size fits all.
HeThrustsHisFistsAgainstthePostsandStillInsistsHeSeesYourMom
should min wage not be federally regulated then?
josithefox
It shouldn't be, (personally don't like miminum wage at all) if we have one it should be state level
FusRoDoodles
I personally think it should regulated not to a set amount but to a correlation with the cost of living, but I'm no science guy.
Philoxus
It should be a ratio between highest and lowest paid persons in a company. Highest gross compensation can only be 300% > than the lowest.
HeThrustsHisFistsAgainstthePostsandStillInsistsHeSeesYourMom
thats pretty unrealistic.
pgarc90
A chemist with a doctorate can only be paid 3 times what the janitor makes? That's idiotic
devastitis
Love your name. Don't mind me, please continue.
josithefox
Shouldn't be a federal miminum wage, our country is to big/diverse to have many laws be federal and wages are one that should be state level
AsABiologistWhoIsNotFunAtParties
A federal one that takes care of people in the low-cost-of-living states would still be progress, even if it doesn't help as much in CA/NY
KevynDietz
It should be raised, but probably pegged to cost of living. 15/h might be too LITTLE for major cites, and it's WAY too much for rural areas
aninvisiblemaniac
it doesn't add up with inflation, but it would also cause everything else to become more expensive, which won't help anyone
SeekingSomething
I hope this guy steps on a Lego while barefoot
ImSynnical
one you previously used your teeth to separate so it has a more jagged edge
CarpeTiger
May he always papercut himself during meetings.
Linson
HaraldWiig
Woh woh woh... a bit harsh! Yes he is scum... but dude... stepping on legos?
Revelumin
May his waiter tell him "Enjoy your meal" with which he responds with "you too."
sdevine
Eternal awardness
Mut3k1
You cold as ice!
RealInternetPoints
my lego filled childhood, plus lazy tendencies have made me strong.
beatlegs
every five minutes for the rest of his life
CarpeMofo
Too far man! The geneva covention exists for a reason.
ItsLikeUmTotally
As a parent, this isn't too bad. It's stepping on a lego or matchbox car that's under a blanket or shirt and you've got zero awareness.
SeekingSomething
Well yeah. I'm talking full stride, oblivious to the dangers of the world, straight to the inside arch, corner lego strike! WAAAARRGGGHHHH!!
SeekingSomething
Well yeah. I'm talking full stride, oblivious to the dangers of the world, straight to the inside arch, corner lego strike! WAAAARRGGGHHHH!!
Dragonboy393
I hope he steps in a puddle with his socks ob
Superchief86
And the puddle is cat pee.
xiphiasgladius
Ugh. That is the worst.
Dragonboy393
On*
Whatthisusernameisnottaken
I hope he steps on mines.
GiveAManASandwichAndHeIsFullForADay
@thelegointhecarpetyousteponatnight
Razziz
May his carpets be eternally filled with legos and his floors covered in d4s.
RPhilbin83
YOU MONSTER
railgap
I hope he steps on a live landmine.
supremepooperscooper
tough, but fair
ButterflyHeimlich
On a Friday.
TheifofZ
May his pillows always be uncomfortable, his socks always damp, and his small change always strangely sticky.
VeryMoistTowelettes
I hope that his finger breaks through the toilet paper when he's wiping.
firefighter26
woah woah, lets not wish anything too hasty... oh, wait. It's Mitch McConnell. Yeah, fuck that guy; he needs 20 or 30 legos while barefoot.
sleepisthemostimportantmealoftheday
For eternity
mywifehatedmylastusename
May his crotch be infested by 1 thousand fleas and may his arms be too short to scratch it.
ohHiMark2000
May his remote be perpetually on the other side of the room.
IHaveThePerfectPuzzleForYou
Woah, woah, too far man.
Shawsy12
May he always brush his teeth right before drinking OJ
Noksus
I hope his toilet paper is always out when he needs it
CrazyCatLad
As someone who works at a different construction toy company, I shall lend painful plastic pieces too! FUCK!
PrimalBidoof
May his food always be cold in the middle.
boobphysicist
damn at that point you should just put him out of his misery and kill him
dwolnation
I hope his seatbelt locks up as he tries to buckle. Every time.
Surrenderyourkoolaid
I hope he always leaves his Chapstick in his pants when washing and drying.
TreesAndShit
Y'all some dark motherfuckers
HocusPokesUs
I'm actually kinda brown.
TreesAndShit
At least you're good at sports
HocusPokesUs
I'm not that brown now.
bloatedplutocrat
"We have to stop wasteful government spending." *spends $87 million of taxpayer money for ACA repeal votes though he knows they won't pass*
g2222
Why are they allowed to vote on salary? His salary I mean. Shouldn't be up to him
LetThemEatPie
It only takes effect after he's elected again
d3jake
The amount of times they tried to repeal it, or slide it into unrelated bills was disgusting.
Fusionxglave
87mil? 600k can feed you for 30 years at 50 dollars a day. WTF.
BlowDog
Needs to be turned into the new Scumbag Steve
thecheesedip
I'd like to know where you're getting the $87 million number. How is that calculated?
tjk3k
Found the fact checker!
d3jake
The amount of times they tried to repeal it, or slide it into unrelated bills was disgusting.
Usernameisalreadyregisteredwasalreadyregistered
Even Clinton was saying that Obamacare doesn't work during debates.
JimmerusMaximus
She also said it didn't go far enough too. I think it's kinda ramshackle but it needs to be reformed NOT repealed.
d3jake
That's not the point. If it's obvious the first five attempts to repeal it right away won't work, the other 45+ aren't going to do the trick
d3jake
Wait until the power in congress shifts and try again
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unownlanguage
Very easily
biolologist
Facilities and staff cost money to operate.
msu14hockey
Legislators get paid. Every minute they spend on purely symbolic things is time they aren't spending on productive things.
Retsam19
Does he get paid $87 million?
foiltoiler
Not him directly, but him and every other legislator involved in the process of getting that piece up and running and to the floor >>
foiltoiler
>> as well as all the admin and support staff behind these people, which at the end amounts to a lot of people and a lot of money.
IreallyMGur
I like when he very smugly stated all they cared about was making sure Obama was a 1 term President even if it meant voting against 1/2
IreallyMGur
Anything & everything that would help people because that would make Obama look good, for you know, enacting laws to benefit said people.
Poodlestrike
Literally the Republican playbook. Make things worse for people so they can harness their anger and resentment. It's only going to get worse
peridotstar
Its really upsetting that there are still people who blame Obama for stuff like that and then they still vote Republican. Like WTF man
Usernameisalreadyregisteredwasalreadyregistered
McConnell's a piece of crap that we're better off without, but Obama's had his fair share.
scnottaken
Like those people that blamed Obama for not helping during 9/11
TheGhostofElizabethShue
It's the kind of statement that makes you wish presidents still shot motherfuckers on the white house lawn.
Glumerlink
makes you wonder though since the white house is public property, if the district of columbia became a stand your ground state would (1)
Glumerlink
a president be able to kill anyone they wanted there?(2/2)
TheGhostofElizabethShue
I believe the way the law currently stands he'd have to use a drone.
fivefrozenfishfingers
The shutdowns and sequester shows how he cares nothing about the middle class, jobs, the economy, or anything but his own political power.
AmorphousPorpous
The shutdowns lowered US credit rating too. Meaning he actually put out national finances at risk to make a point. Fuck him.
tomyironmane
... ... Which, hey, his refusal to actually stand for some kinda fiscal sanity is probably more to blame.
tomyironmane
He wasn't the only one culpable for the "shutdowns" ... and if anything is lowering the credit rating it's the debt tripling.
PerhapsAnotherPerspective
Ehh, while the rising debt has definitely been a factor, the really important figure, debt to GDP ratio, isn't as dire as many believe. 1/
tomyironmane
GDP has tripled? Somehow I doubt that. Like, a lot.
PerhapsAnotherPerspective
is no progress on increasing the statutory debt limit in coming weeks, it expects to place the US government's rating under review for 6/
PerhapsAnotherPerspective
Aaa rating will be maintained." So the real root of the immediate threat was the default risk from the debt ceiling not being raised, 8/
PerhapsAnotherPerspective
note "Nevertheless, we view the U.S. federal government's other economic, external, and monetary credit attributes, which form the basis 4/
PerhapsAnotherPerspective
Several credit rating agencies, when explaining the rationale for the downgrades did specifically cite the "political brinkmanship" seen 2/
PerhapsAnotherPerspective
in efforts against raising the debt ceiling. For example, while S&P did discuss the size of the debt as a factor, they were also sure to 3/
PerhapsAnotherPerspective
possible downgrade, due to the very small but rising risk of a short-lived default. If the debt limit is raised and default avoided, the 7/
PerhapsAnotherPerspective
while the rising debt overall was seen as a longer run indicator of credit health. 9/9
PerhapsAnotherPerspective
for the sovereign rating, as broadly unchanged." Moody's was far more forthright, " Moody's Investors Service said today that if there 5/
jsktrogdor
I love that people claimed they elected Donald Trump to "drain the swamp" ... but then they reelected basically every incumbent in Congress.
BlumpkinPie69
"Drain the swamp! But wait, I like him...and him...I guess they can all stay!"
PostalHeathen
Well, draining a swamp leaves you with a festering, dying mud hole where a healthy ecosystem once thrived, so the analogy still works.
hereforthegoodies
sadly most voters don't participate in the primary. this is the best way to get rid of multi term politicians
BoogerMcFarlane
Everybody hates congress, but loves their congressman.
johnvictor
Mine is McConnell, I have voted against him after I could vote in elections.
Flyndaran
Nah, mine are usually shit too. I instinctively distrust anyone that wants to lead.
Poodlestrike
people who are any GOOD at wielding that power are the ones that are that special brand of crazy. 3!
Poodlestrike
This is actually really interesting. The only people who make for good leaders, are people too powerhungry to be trusted with power. 1/
earlofhoundstooth
Yeppers! Someone told me I should vote for a guy for governor because he is a good honest man. I said he won't stay that way if he wins.
Poodlestrike
You've got to be a little crazy to believe that you are singularly more qualified than anybody else to wield titanic power, but the only 2/
Mewmus
and President-Elect Trump wants to get term limits for Congress
xyrax
Which would have to be voted on by Congress. Trump used that line to lure in you folks, he knew it would never happen, and yall fell for it.
jsktrogdor
*which will only encourage more favoritism to industry over voters because industry will be able to give them a job when voters can't.
johnvictor
Not going to happen, Congress would have to vote on it.
xyrax
Which would have to be voted on by Congress. Trump used that line to lure in you folks, he knew it would never happen, and yall fell for it.
KevynDietz
Aside from it being a terrible idea (it'd shift policy making to lobbyists), good luck getting Congress to vote themselves out of office.
PainGwen
To lobbyists And career bureaucrats, who already do this for appointees and other short termers.
BigBlueBurd
He also wants to basically place a major set of limitations on lobbyists.
Mewmus
I don't know the legalities of it, but maybe President Trump can do an executive order for it.
BurntRamen
The problem is it takes a while to learn the ropes and lobbyists would end up with more control and writing even more laws than they do now.
KevynDietz
Doubtful. Term limits would actually probably require a constitutional convention.
GeorgeSmiley
pretty much, the supreme court ruled that states can not impose term limits on their federal legislatures
Mewmus
obama tried to do presidential orders that got stopped in its tracks