Mar 5, 2023 6:44 PM
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Doompug
What is the hatch below the windows for?
FaithAlone
More like doomsday dorito
BeardedWonder82
Air Force sex is weird
DukeDarkwood
Before I realized this was a refueling, I was wondering why the bomber was taking a picture with a selfie stick.
GiftedMagnet
it can be both!!
sarahobie
Everything reminds me of him…
UraniumMan
Meanwhile, in the cockpit....
ilhares
And ol' Auggie Ben Doggie there was the art director on the WW2 sequence in Heavy Metal.
mikeatike
ToSisPoS
Take it easy kid, it’s only a movie.
DALLASLAVOWNER
and it aint that kind of movie
Hardware Wars!
malachilenomade
One of the things I love about this site: someone posts something like that and reminds me of things I've forgotten over the years.
NibblonianNibbler
Why do I see faces in things
OptimisticFailure47
Zeboku
All around are familiar faces
hydrophobicOtter
Because you have a human brain that likes to see familiar patterns.
RandallKavanaugh
Pareidolia is everywhere!
ThenIDefyYouStars
Yeah this guy has a reaaaal dumb face
CeterumCenseo
Does the B-2 have a little image of itself on its nose so the pilots know which plane they're flying?
Daywalker27
SlutAtNight
Is that it IRL?
Feralkyn
See, I wanna say it looks CG b/c the light is not reflecting right, but these ARE matte black lol
I am trying to understand!
Jordan7831
Johnsky
Paige needs refuelling?
Kyen155
?1
edaloco
Hole in one
3minence
Man that flight control system is working overtime.
critausy
Aircraft sex is weird.
AtsaMattaForMe
The72ndRaven
I see that r/NonCredibleDefense has leaked through. Spirit-chan, the B2 Waifu.
coothlesscthulhu
Angry Dorito
Iammoney45
Found the Miata owner
Well I do have a Miata, but it's not powered by a Dorito.
Omestra
Murder triangle.
rbudrick
Top Gun for NES, fuck you.
cyounghmfce
Took only one time and i did it !!
JeffGodofBiscuits
just the tip
crackblind
So you agree that this should nelabelled NSFW.
phuzz00
"Is it in yet?"
R100GSPD
Put...put your probe in it
porcubot
Right into the b2ussy
KE4ZNR
Just don't let Christian Slater and John Travolta pilot it.
nohnaim
El Doro.
sneakinglurkingpeepingguy
No pressure it's only a 2 billion dollar aircraft
[deleted]
polarbearbaby
Hence “B-2.”
Geistbar
Partially from low production numbers. B-21 successor is supposed to be $700m/each, but we build 100 B-21 instead of 21 of the B-2.
implosion3
The New B-21 so sexy.
SpaceSpeed
"Don't scratch the paint, don't scratch the paint, don't scratch the paint..."
fortheloveofgodacceptsomething
If you get through the selection process to e allowed to fly a 2 billion doller aircraft, I don't think this phases you.
idealtityousmeltit
Do not touch the trim!
v
METROlD
"oops"
Magjee
No biggie, that's just the budget for building 2 dozen schools
chbarts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Andersen_Air_Force_Base_B-2_accident
PixelSprite64
BlackCatCasper
How many schools and hospitals was that?
Comet260
The Air Crash Investigation episode on that is very interesting.
Thank you, I wasn’t aware of that. I was able to track down a better HD version then what YouTube offered. My OnDemand only goes to S19
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8bxpch
https://old.reddit.com/r/aircrashinvestigation/
MisterDonutVampire
This is actually the most expensive crash in US Air Force history, this particular aircraft was named Spirit of Kansas.
E509
Looks like that was about 10x the cost of most other large accidents which occurred in USAF history.
michaeloberg
Spirit of Kansas' starving children more like it
ScarletEmerald
Is that the crash you could see on Google earth?
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/rwojjh/there_is_a_crashed_b2_stealth_bomber_on_google/
YouHadMyCuriosityNowYouHaveMyAttention
Negative. The video is from 2008’s Sprit of Kansas crashing in Guam. The GE picture is from 2021’s Spirit of Georgia’s emergency landing.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_Grumman_B-2_Spirit
AtlasMorrow
IIRC this was because the tech cleaned a sensor basically
poopfromabove
It was moisture buildup in some sensors after "heavy, lashing rains".
Mozzy4Ever
Tbh both surprised and not surprised that water in air data lines could cause this. I guess due to B-2 shape,can't have an actual AoA vane?
Also unsurprising that water sumps are damn near useless in every pitot/static system, not just KCs
MushroomFiend
No it had to have a special air speed sensor. TV show Air Disasters goes into much more detail. https://youtu.be/7Q7OW4RZAiM
KaJuN
NKAWTG
TacoWaffle
Nobody
KyotoGaijin
Well, are they the 92nd Air Refueling Wing or the 141st Air Refueling Wing?
somnif
Kinda both! When flying with the air force, it's the 92nd ARW. When flying with the air national guard, it's the 141st.
yes.
GRZMNKY
The one on the left is the 141st, the one on the right is the 92nd. I wonder how many spares they actually have.
IronCore
rudejohn
For those who don't know, Top Gun (NES) you had to refuel mid-air, and it was among the most frustrating video game experiences of my life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vetEg8J-wcw
th30n3and0n1y
I still have nightmares about this
flexcapacitor
Fuck you for this.
MisterPrimeMinister
I showed u my refueling probe plz respond.
OptimusPom
Fuck you
Glizzymandias
My friend doesn't get it. Was this a super difficult part of a game?
This is Top Gun for the NES. The refueling and aircraft landings were notoriously difficult.
Thanks for re awaking memories from my childhood of never having passed this.
ConsumerAffairs
Nice. I couldn't find a good gif for this. Now I have one. Thanks!
No problemo fam
joshybones
Slower, you slut.
Bam906
I will never ever see the B2 as anything other than a danger dorito again in my life!!!!
PicassoCT
When mommy and daddy plane love each other very much
Hibs06
What happens if they hit turbulence?
NatiLite
It's a bit easier once you're on the boom. You get a few more feet in either direction. I'll give you the classic military answer:it depends
alchemist12345
this
ThisGostakIsHereForTheDoshes
I guess that is also a pretty interesting demonstration that the boom is actively flown by the operator, right?
Opf….no thank you
DeepAnalPenetration
That is terrifying
is it in?
TurboPuns21
airbreather
What's crazy to me is how fast the fuel is transferred... 3800 liters per minute. That could fill your average aboveground pool in ~3 min!
yournamechecksout
That’s a huge load
WrongUn
That's a huge bitch
youtalkintomi
That’s what she said.
BenderSaysNeat
Man the B-2 is a cool plane.
Aksuuuh
Probably still runs pretty hot
Boatsntoes
But what use is it these days. I feel like the a10 or drones are the way to go.
zHurk777
And a waste of taxpayer $$$ dollars. what a waste.
Totters
It's one of my favourites. That, and the SR-71. Aviation is fascinating, even if I'm dumb and don't understand how complex it is.
DaveSamsonite
have you seen the Aquatinc SR71?
OffendedSkeleton
Anyone know what is inside the chevron shaped slot forward of the cockpit? Looks like some metal circles inside.
igetanxiouscomingupwithusernames
Those are air data sensors. Each disk feeds air speed and pressure readings to four flight computers.
I wondered if it was only open when refueling, upward facing cameras, etc. seems like it would create turbulence and drag
Nope; they're actually flush with the surface.
It looks like there is a vertical edge behind them, unless it’s covered. Could also be for scattering but those are usually Chevron V or W
brassmule
It's amazing he gets to refuel B-4 he lands.
ThongsAreFootwear
Other than price, why isn't the entire air force stealth aircraft?
TheActualMalloryArcher
There are a variety of factors. Some of which being that we don't need all stealth aircraft. "Stealth" doesn't help in combat or logistics.
Caldersson
You say that but stealth air refuelers are starting to become necessary.
djzapz
I don't know but it probably helps for air traffic control during training and domestic ops
ThaWhiteRanger
And the B-52's are rocking band
slightskew
in the yard and one flew over when the air show was in town.... Couldn't have been more than two thousand feet up. Literally didn't hear it
FartBubbles
Witnessed one flyover the Indy500. It felt really off watching something that size in silence. Beautiful & thankful it’s on my side.
supershot5
I saw one there too, the National Anthem was wrapping up and people start pointing to the sky. It was right above us and never heard it.
CloakedFigure
This is the reason I ironically missed one at a recent air show. It was too quiet lol
dualplains
Same! I was under their flight path for the Rose Bowl Parade flyover.
Icebreaker007
Same here. It was right above us and I didn’t hear it. Sounds like a gust of strong wind. Amazing and scary. .
onedayillthinkofsomethingtoputhere
I was in college, omw late to a football game, hear a mild hum so I looked up and a B-2 was passing just a few hundred feet above. Wild.
cmad182
So quiet
LoudBirb
The car passing by on the road drowned it out for a sec, which is bonkers at that distance.
love these
B-21 is a stealthier smaller modern & more mission agile making it better for modern war. The b-2 will always have a spot on my heart.
rshini
My mother was AF when these first came out, she recalled she and the guys at the forecasting station being spooked by how quiet it is
16bitStarbuck
"My mother was as fuck when this first came out..." I had to reread that several times I need some goddamn sleep
yeah, should've used USAF
My friend was like "did you see the stealth bomber at the airshow?" I was like "what? No!" And he said "because it's stealth"
bobbsr
Reminds me of this https://youtu.be/fgDDdbiBPes
Ryebread91
Can we talk about how seamless that panel fits after it closes?
I'm more impressed by that than most of the other capabilities.
The B2 does a lot of kegels to keep it so tight.
Skr121
I zoomed
MrSnuffleupagus172
Just the tip
Sometimes it’s a little difficult to work it in, but then there’s that little *pop*
What's the brown stuff on it that disappears all of a sudden?
Santorum
And that neat little add-on feature is available for only $19.8 billion! It's a steal.
TotallyNotVillain
It's sad that they will be retired in the next 10 years.
What's coming after that though?
Purely in awe of it aviation engineering genius, not its destructive might.. this, and the new B- 21 are my favorites. They are the only..
.. planes that humans have made that actually look futuristic and other worldly. What a leap in design, nothing else like it
Take a look at the yf-23, it has the same vibes
YayItsMillerTime
I really hope we don't need to use it
Perhaps the greatest demonstration of how effective this aircraft is is that we never had to use it for what it was originally built for.
It can be used for non-nuclear missions.
Afrikane
And has been in Libya against ISIL IIRC
oogliebooglie
Still hope we never have to use it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_Grumman_B-2_Spirit#Operational_history
ElRigs83
Almost as cool as universal healthcare and working infrastructure
Shuey
Maybe next term... Next psycho rich barely there, late stage dimensia president
We can have both! WE CAN HAVE BOTH!! We can have a bad-ass military AND all of those other things! We can support Ukraine AND have UHC.
That being said, the military is in need of serious reform when it comes to money.
OmnesMundiLardum
The Fed Gov spends 2X on HC compared to the mil. Reforming our HC system is the main obstacle in implementing UHC not the mil budget.
How much moolah would be saved if Health Insurance companies were taken out of the picture?
While you are not wrong, you have no idea what exactly is wrong with our military spending. It isn't necessarily the amount, more how it 1/
2/ is spent that is so fucked up. If you are interested, I could elaborate, though that will be a lengthy reply. 2/2
We can do both! ??????
YES WE CAN.
ChaoticGoodTransGirl
we don't need to do both
we need universal health care, we do not need to brutally enforce US imperialism abroad.
Theory89
While it has been used for that in the past, I think the Ukraine invasion shows us the world is not done with military action. Stability...
graehall
*coughing in untreated illness and medical bankruptcy* wow that absurdly expensive super weapon sure makes us great!
Lol... down vote faries, but you're not wrong
BrdCdn
1/ The sentiment is right but the anger is misplaced. The US already spends more tax dollars per capita on Healthcare than universal
2/ Healthcare type system countries. Literally Medicare is more expensive than universal Healthcare. Get mad at private hospitals, health
3/ insurance industry and drug companies. You can keep military spending and get universal coverage if you nationalize the delivery of it.
Doompug
What is the hatch below the windows for?
FaithAlone
More like doomsday dorito
BeardedWonder82
Air Force sex is weird
DukeDarkwood
Before I realized this was a refueling, I was wondering why the bomber was taking a picture with a selfie stick.
GiftedMagnet
it can be both!!
sarahobie
Everything reminds me of him…
UraniumMan
Meanwhile, in the cockpit....
ilhares
And ol' Auggie Ben Doggie there was the art director on the WW2 sequence in Heavy Metal.
mikeatike
ToSisPoS
Take it easy kid, it’s only a movie.
DALLASLAVOWNER
and it aint that kind of movie
DALLASLAVOWNER
Hardware Wars!
malachilenomade
One of the things I love about this site: someone posts something like that and reminds me of things I've forgotten over the years.
NibblonianNibbler
Why do I see faces in things
OptimisticFailure47
Zeboku
All around are familiar faces
hydrophobicOtter
Because you have a human brain that likes to see familiar patterns.
RandallKavanaugh
Pareidolia is everywhere!
ThenIDefyYouStars
Yeah this guy has a reaaaal dumb face
CeterumCenseo
Does the B-2 have a little image of itself on its nose so the pilots know which plane they're flying?
Daywalker27
SlutAtNight
Is that it IRL?
Feralkyn
See, I wanna say it looks CG b/c the light is not reflecting right, but these ARE matte black lol
SlutAtNight
I am trying to understand!
Jordan7831
Johnsky
Paige needs refuelling?
Kyen155
edaloco
Hole in one
3minence
Man that flight control system is working overtime.
critausy
Aircraft sex is weird.
AtsaMattaForMe
The72ndRaven
I see that r/NonCredibleDefense has leaked through. Spirit-chan, the B2 Waifu.
AtsaMattaForMe
coothlesscthulhu
Angry Dorito
Iammoney45
Found the Miata owner
coothlesscthulhu
Well I do have a Miata, but it's not powered by a Dorito.
Omestra
Murder triangle.
rbudrick
Top Gun for NES, fuck you.
cyounghmfce
Took only one time and i did it !!
JeffGodofBiscuits
just the tip
crackblind
So you agree that this should nelabelled NSFW.
phuzz00
"Is it in yet?"
R100GSPD
Put...put your probe in it
porcubot
Right into the b2ussy
KE4ZNR
Just don't let Christian Slater and John Travolta pilot it.
nohnaim
El Doro.
sneakinglurkingpeepingguy
No pressure it's only a 2 billion dollar aircraft
[deleted]
[deleted]
polarbearbaby
Hence “B-2.”
Geistbar
Partially from low production numbers. B-21 successor is supposed to be $700m/each, but we build 100 B-21 instead of 21 of the B-2.
implosion3
SpaceSpeed
"Don't scratch the paint, don't scratch the paint, don't scratch the paint..."
fortheloveofgodacceptsomething
If you get through the selection process to e allowed to fly a 2 billion doller aircraft, I don't think this phases you.
idealtityousmeltit
Do not touch the trim!
Daywalker27
METROlD
"oops"
Magjee
No biggie, that's just the budget for building 2 dozen schools
chbarts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Andersen_Air_Force_Base_B-2_accident
PixelSprite64
BlackCatCasper
How many schools and hospitals was that?
Comet260
The Air Crash Investigation episode on that is very interesting.
Daywalker27
Thank you, I wasn’t aware of that. I was able to track down a better HD version then what YouTube offered. My OnDemand only goes to S19
Daywalker27
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8bxpch
Comet260
https://old.reddit.com/r/aircrashinvestigation/
MisterDonutVampire
This is actually the most expensive crash in US Air Force history, this particular aircraft was named Spirit of Kansas.
E509
Looks like that was about 10x the cost of most other large accidents which occurred in USAF history.
michaeloberg
Spirit of Kansas' starving children more like it
ScarletEmerald
Is that the crash you could see on Google earth?
chbarts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Andersen_Air_Force_Base_B-2_accident
ScarletEmerald
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/rwojjh/there_is_a_crashed_b2_stealth_bomber_on_google/
YouHadMyCuriosityNowYouHaveMyAttention
Negative. The video is from 2008’s Sprit of Kansas crashing in Guam. The GE picture is from 2021’s Spirit of Georgia’s emergency landing.
YouHadMyCuriosityNowYouHaveMyAttention
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_Grumman_B-2_Spirit
AtlasMorrow
IIRC this was because the tech cleaned a sensor basically
poopfromabove
It was moisture buildup in some sensors after "heavy, lashing rains".
Mozzy4Ever
Tbh both surprised and not surprised that water in air data lines could cause this. I guess due to B-2 shape,can't have an actual AoA vane?
Mozzy4Ever
Also unsurprising that water sumps are damn near useless in every pitot/static system, not just KCs
MushroomFiend
No it had to have a special air speed sensor. TV show Air Disasters goes into much more detail. https://youtu.be/7Q7OW4RZAiM
KaJuN
NKAWTG
TacoWaffle
Nobody
KyotoGaijin
Well, are they the 92nd Air Refueling Wing or the 141st Air Refueling Wing?
somnif
Kinda both! When flying with the air force, it's the 92nd ARW. When flying with the air national guard, it's the 141st.
GiftedMagnet
yes.
GRZMNKY
The one on the left is the 141st, the one on the right is the 92nd. I wonder how many spares they actually have.
IronCore
rudejohn
For those who don't know, Top Gun (NES) you had to refuel mid-air, and it was among the most frustrating video game experiences of my life.
rudejohn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vetEg8J-wcw
th30n3and0n1y
I still have nightmares about this
flexcapacitor
Fuck you for this.
MisterPrimeMinister
I showed u my refueling probe plz respond.
OptimusPom
Fuck you
Glizzymandias
My friend doesn't get it. Was this a super difficult part of a game?
IronCore
This is Top Gun for the NES. The refueling and aircraft landings were notoriously difficult.
OptimusPom
Thanks for re awaking memories from my childhood of never having passed this.
ConsumerAffairs
IronCore
Nice. I couldn't find a good gif for this. Now I have one. Thanks!
ConsumerAffairs
No problemo fam
joshybones
Slower, you slut.
Bam906
I will never ever see the B2 as anything other than a danger dorito again in my life!!!!
PicassoCT
When mommy and daddy plane love each other very much
Hibs06
What happens if they hit turbulence?
NatiLite
It's a bit easier once you're on the boom. You get a few more feet in either direction. I'll give you the classic military answer:it depends
alchemist12345
this
ThisGostakIsHereForTheDoshes
I guess that is also a pretty interesting demonstration that the boom is actively flown by the operator, right?
Hibs06
Opf….no thank you
DeepAnalPenetration
That is terrifying
AtsaMattaForMe
is it in?
TurboPuns21
airbreather
What's crazy to me is how fast the fuel is transferred... 3800 liters per minute. That could fill your average aboveground pool in ~3 min!
yournamechecksout
That’s a huge load
WrongUn
That's a huge bitch
youtalkintomi
That’s what she said.
BenderSaysNeat
Man the B-2 is a cool plane.
Aksuuuh
Probably still runs pretty hot
Boatsntoes
But what use is it these days. I feel like the a10 or drones are the way to go.
zHurk777
And a waste of taxpayer $$$ dollars. what a waste.
Totters
It's one of my favourites. That, and the SR-71. Aviation is fascinating, even if I'm dumb and don't understand how complex it is.
DaveSamsonite
have you seen the Aquatinc SR71?
OffendedSkeleton
Anyone know what is inside the chevron shaped slot forward of the cockpit? Looks like some metal circles inside.
igetanxiouscomingupwithusernames
Those are air data sensors. Each disk feeds air speed and pressure readings to four flight computers.
DaveSamsonite
I wondered if it was only open when refueling, upward facing cameras, etc. seems like it would create turbulence and drag
igetanxiouscomingupwithusernames
Nope; they're actually flush with the surface.
DaveSamsonite
It looks like there is a vertical edge behind them, unless it’s covered. Could also be for scattering but those are usually Chevron V or W
brassmule
It's amazing he gets to refuel B-4 he lands.
ThongsAreFootwear
Other than price, why isn't the entire air force stealth aircraft?
TheActualMalloryArcher
There are a variety of factors. Some of which being that we don't need all stealth aircraft. "Stealth" doesn't help in combat or logistics.
Caldersson
You say that but stealth air refuelers are starting to become necessary.
djzapz
I don't know but it probably helps for air traffic control during training and domestic ops
ThaWhiteRanger
And the B-52's are rocking band
slightskew
in the yard and one flew over when the air show was in town.... Couldn't have been more than two thousand feet up. Literally didn't hear it
FartBubbles
Witnessed one flyover the Indy500. It felt really off watching something that size in silence. Beautiful & thankful it’s on my side.
supershot5
I saw one there too, the National Anthem was wrapping up and people start pointing to the sky. It was right above us and never heard it.
CloakedFigure
This is the reason I ironically missed one at a recent air show. It was too quiet lol
dualplains
Same! I was under their flight path for the Rose Bowl Parade flyover.
Icebreaker007
Same here. It was right above us and I didn’t hear it. Sounds like a gust of strong wind. Amazing and scary. .
onedayillthinkofsomethingtoputhere
I was in college, omw late to a football game, hear a mild hum so I looked up and a B-2 was passing just a few hundred feet above. Wild.
ConsumerAffairs
cmad182
So quiet
LoudBirb
The car passing by on the road drowned it out for a sec, which is bonkers at that distance.
implosion3
Caldersson
B-21 is a stealthier smaller modern & more mission agile making it better for modern war. The b-2 will always have a spot on my heart.
rshini
My mother was AF when these first came out, she recalled she and the guys at the forecasting station being spooked by how quiet it is
youtalkintomi
16bitStarbuck
"My mother was as fuck when this first came out..." I had to reread that several times I need some goddamn sleep
rshini
yeah, should've used USAF
mikeatike
My friend was like "did you see the stealth bomber at the airshow?" I was like "what? No!" And he said "because it's stealth"
ConsumerAffairs
bobbsr
Reminds me of this https://youtu.be/fgDDdbiBPes
Ryebread91
Can we talk about how seamless that panel fits after it closes?
mikeatike
I'm more impressed by that than most of the other capabilities.
DaveSamsonite
The B2 does a lot of kegels to keep it so tight.
Skr121
I zoomed
MrSnuffleupagus172
Just the tip
ConsumerAffairs
DaveSamsonite
Sometimes it’s a little difficult to work it in, but then there’s that little *pop*
Ryebread91
What's the brown stuff on it that disappears all of a sudden?
DaveSamsonite
Santorum
airbreather
And that neat little add-on feature is available for only $19.8 billion! It's a steal.
TotallyNotVillain
It's sad that they will be retired in the next 10 years.
Ryebread91
What's coming after that though?
implosion3
Purely in awe of it aviation engineering genius, not its destructive might.. this, and the new B- 21 are my favorites. They are the only..
implosion3
.. planes that humans have made that actually look futuristic and other worldly. What a leap in design, nothing else like it
Caldersson
Take a look at the yf-23, it has the same vibes
implosion3
YayItsMillerTime
I really hope we don't need to use it
TurboPuns21
Perhaps the greatest demonstration of how effective this aircraft is is that we never had to use it for what it was originally built for.
Comet260
It can be used for non-nuclear missions.
Afrikane
And has been in Libya against ISIL IIRC
oogliebooglie
Still hope we never have to use it.
Comet260
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_Grumman_B-2_Spirit#Operational_history
ElRigs83
Almost as cool as universal healthcare and working infrastructure
Shuey
Maybe next term... Next psycho rich barely there, late stage dimensia president
Comet260
We can have both! WE CAN HAVE BOTH!! We can have a bad-ass military AND all of those other things! We can support Ukraine AND have UHC.
Comet260
That being said, the military is in need of serious reform when it comes to money.
OmnesMundiLardum
The Fed Gov spends 2X on HC compared to the mil. Reforming our HC system is the main obstacle in implementing UHC not the mil budget.
Comet260
How much moolah would be saved if Health Insurance companies were taken out of the picture?
TheActualMalloryArcher
While you are not wrong, you have no idea what exactly is wrong with our military spending. It isn't necessarily the amount, more how it 1/
TheActualMalloryArcher
2/ is spent that is so fucked up. If you are interested, I could elaborate, though that will be a lengthy reply. 2/2
TurboPuns21
We can do both! ??????
Comet260
YES WE CAN.
ChaoticGoodTransGirl
we don't need to do both
ChaoticGoodTransGirl
we need universal health care, we do not need to brutally enforce US imperialism abroad.
Theory89
While it has been used for that in the past, I think the Ukraine invasion shows us the world is not done with military action. Stability...
graehall
*coughing in untreated illness and medical bankruptcy* wow that absurdly expensive super weapon sure makes us great!
slightskew
Lol... down vote faries, but you're not wrong
BrdCdn
1/ The sentiment is right but the anger is misplaced. The US already spends more tax dollars per capita on Healthcare than universal
BrdCdn
2/ Healthcare type system countries. Literally Medicare is more expensive than universal Healthcare. Get mad at private hospitals, health
BrdCdn
3/ insurance industry and drug companies. You can keep military spending and get universal coverage if you nationalize the delivery of it.