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alexw04
Well, sounds great, but what's the bet that a big payment is heading towards the WH from Apple, and Samsung and others to resist this change, calling it "uncompetitive", and "no, it can't be done" and all sorts of crap. This is a real help to everyone with a smart phone, and meets up with their rules on domestic white goods, motor cars and a shit load of other stuff.
ZzPluralZa
This is cool!
UnlimitedTrickPony
this was decided in 2023 ... giving mobile phone manufacturer 4 years time for development till 2027 ... they already complying since 4 years ... models are already in the works for a long time ... they are just not announced yet
lDanielHolm
This is the best news I've heard in a very long time. Thank you, so much.
aShogunNamedMarcus
I got probably two extra years of use out of my OG Galaxy Nexus by being able to swap out the battery on the fly
JBloodthorn
My S5 lasted almost 10 for the same reason. I still miss using it s a universal remote.
tuxedobob
Wow, can you imagine how rich someone will be when they invent a battery that doesn’t degrade?
casbott
This is why I've been nursing my current 2020 smartphone for the past few years to get to next year.
So I can invest in a high-end phone whose battery I can replace every few years to keep it usable.
And just in time to enjoy the Ai boom RAM and memory shortages and the Hormuz Helium shortages also affecting chips....
LostCaterpillar
High end phones aren't affected by this mandate, only low end ones. Phones that are waterproof and whose batteries last thousands of charges will continue to have soldered in batteries.
You might not want to hear this but if you actually do want a phone that's fully usable for 5+ years you might want to look at iPhones. Apple keeps them fully up to date for 6 years after release and continues security patches for years past that and the batteries, baring bad luck, last that long as well.
JackHL01
Danke Uschi!
Ghlargh
I wish we could get the headphone socket back on stuff, analog wired audio beats bluetooth for connecting to stationary amplifiers by miles.
LostCaterpillar
You can get a cable that adopts USB–C audio to 3.5mm. If you're on an iPhone be aware that they don't output an analogue signal so you'll need one with a digital audio converter and not one of the cheeper ones. Mind you, you can find ones with a DAC for like $5 so while more expensive than just an audio cable it's not exactly breaking the bank.
hushpuppyextraordinaire
Eu is the new California
OneMoreLime
Now make them all use the same connection for the external battery.
usingYourMomAsAHat
Finally!!! Hell yeah!
m0problems
Can they make everyone re-add the headphone jack?
DukeofKMS
I love my institutions. I hope they brace themselves and grow teeth, because the attacks by outside powers (US, Russia, China) will persist. Even so Hungary got rid of the foreign puppets, France and Germany are still under attack. AfD and RN (foreign agents) are still growing their power.
QuanticChaos
We need this in North America badly
q2grapple
And now a new iPhone battery… just $699.99
Jace99
Exactly
Thisisbullshitalready
I just got a new Galaxy. Liked my old galaxy, which was 6 years old and still useful, excepting that the battery would no longer hold a charge. The current system is bull crap. I like my new phone, but hate being forced to make the decision.
haggerton
Fake news. Apple is specifically exempt as EU made rules around making sure it will be exempt. https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/1sqtmhb/eu_to_force_replaceable_batteries_in_phones_and/oha971u/
WhyAreAllGoodNamesTaken
This will be solved in software then with older iPhone versions running slower and slower...
IntergalacticGoldfish
I thought they already got in trouble for doing that in the past, but i could be wrong.
TheMilliner
They did. Everywhere it went to trial deemed it illegal.
LostCaterpillar
Batterygate. They released a patch that slowed down phones with busted batteries to prevent a bug that previously caused them to suddenly lose power without warning.
The actual degree of slowing wasn't anything you'd actually notice in normal use but somebody spotted it in benchmark testing and then there was a class–action about it. As part of the settlement apple offered discounted battery replacements to affected phones so that they would no longer be slowed down.
Kaiju84
EU citizen here, this is good. Now, please put regulations on Social Media, too, concerning fair algorithms and penalizing hate speech.
JohnThatcher
"Best I can do is invasive identity verification."
OneGoodRib
In the US our government is pretending it's hate speech to point out the president is old, so that's why hate speech penalization is an issue. It's one thing to try to make it illegal to call someone a slur, but what if the government decides that conservatives are correct about "cis" being a slur? What if they decide it's hate speech to say "fuck that guy"?
bekkayya
considering chat control I'd kinda rather we dont touch that atm. willing to be convinced.
sneakypoo
They're busy forcing everyone to identify themselves on SoMe first.
StellarJay77
That's actually being worked on too. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c747x7gz249o
MediocreExtremist
and while they're at it: a tax on ads
pixelsnader
I don't wanna hafta pay money to watch ads!
TicklishOwl
As much as I can't stand hate speech, legislating it is tricky, because the gov gets to decide what is hate speech.
Like germany and GB deciding that standing up for Palestine is hate speech.
I can easily mute someone I find throwing slurs; I'd rather not give a state the right to imprison someone for wrong words.
DocNitro
On the other hand, you have corporats deciding what is unacceptable, see Mastercard and Visa pushing for censorship.
Colopty
Which in turn has resulted in policy suggestions to address that both in the EU and US. The EU is basically guaranteed to implement theirs, dunno the status of the US version but they seemed to have a reasonable proposal last time I heard of it.
TicklishOwl
And that's more of a financial sector regulation than it is free speech directly, even if it impacts it indirectly. Financial institutions have proved time and time again they can't be trusted laissez faire.
Exce55um
Pretty much this. You either have free speech, or you don't. You think it can be selective, and protect your feefees, but once the concept of free speech is corrupt, it can just as easily be turned against you. The only way to deal with ideas you don't like is to tackle them, and test them, instead of waiting for the big government daddy to protect you from them. And in that conflict - the truth is revealed, no matter how ugly or painful it is. Hiding in echo chambers doesn't do that.
DocNitro
If you want 'Free Speech' you also need to ban corporations running a platform from putting up rules and interact with anything, because you can't have 'House Rules' for a service when you advocate for 'Free Speech'.
See Twitter, now X. Instead of purging rightwing hate, it now has flipped to the other side and purging sane people.
Exce55um
I would argue that no purging should take place at all, right wing, left wing, butterfly wing or hospital wing, doesn't matter. Suppressing speech is bad, and achieves the exact opposite from what we (should) want to achieve - free discourse and consensus. Exploring ideas with intellectual honesty and aligning goals towards something productive, instead of wasting energy fighting each other.
But chasing profits at the cost of everything else (capitalism) does have this effect. That much is true.
UsernameAlreadyTaken058
Just what exactly do you mean by "tackle them and test them"? Because I guarantee you, trying to engange in an honest debate with a social media ops farm is an act of futility. Even if you beat their argument once, the bot farm employee will just switch accounts and continue with their task of spreading the lies of the day. Because that is their job. And that's before LLMs/"AIs" take over that task.
Exce55um
I am not talking about combating "ops farms" or w/e.
I am talking about exploring and understanding where everyone is coming from and finding a middle ground and a way to co-exist, instead of hiding in echo chambers and regurgitating second-hand talking points. Goes for both sides of the isle tbf. There are great ideas and practices in both conservative and liberal schools of thought. And the happiest countries use them both. Going full left is just as bad as going full right.
UsernameAlreadyTaken058
I know you're not talking about that....but it's not going away just because you refuse to look at it. The sad fact is that freedom of speech is beeing abused by foreign state actors as well as corporations. Individual people cannot counter this. Not while they use their free time to seek an honest debate while the other side is getting paid to do anything BUT seek an honest debate. What you're offering is not a solution to a very real problem.
meowingintensifies
what's it like to have a govt that cares about people instead of pandering to oligarchs? EU has been on a roll lately, I'm envious. ;_;
JuliusPepperwoodFromChicago
None of my Android phones have had easily removable batteries.
Rosenaa
You will have to buy a new one :-/
OneGoodRib
People who hate on apple always just ignore that android does the same shit.
Jamesstin
Besides that android has a functional operating system
EricAirheart
Please continue EU. We need your help over here
Rosenaa
We are doing our best. Even change FROM Windows TO LINUX in many official and public areas..
PineappleLoopsBroether
Honestly…. Send ALL your secret agents to help us
FlyingButtPliers
BLOCK ANDROID PREVENTING SLIDE LOADING NEXT - Yes, all caps. Come November no more f-droid unless giant corporation allows it.
Autittuderp
The rest of the world really should follow suit but...the shareholders
Hibbtygibitty
My view may be out of whack, but I don’t see Apple as my enemy. But this not so subtle nudge is appropriate.
Caughtintheconcentricelipsesofchaosanditsinnatemadness
Apple is anti consumer and have been for quite some time. There are numerous accounts, cease & desist, etc.
DocNitro
Google has been doing the same, but people are dickriding them like mad and giving them the 'At least they are not Apple' bonus.
FckleberryFarms
They embody A Brave New World. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/17/ending-over-mending-planned-obsolescence-is-killing-the-planet
MrFancyPanzer
Eat shit, apple
JackHL01
Eat crapapple
MissivesFromTheTower
"How 'bout them apples?"
ILikeFood2000
Pwnzistor
Apple is exempt as their batteries can do 1000 cycles and remain at 80% capacity.
CerisCinderwolf
*and Samsung, and Google, et all...
Apple is the worst but they all do this.
stayingalive4life
But, but, but, won’t somebody think of the shareholders?
notifybay151
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sweetandsmokey
Apple will probably increase the price to make up for it.
LendLeaseIdentity
I'm thinking of them, as I polish my guillotine sharp enough to split air.
stayingalive4life
May I recommend an obsidian blade?
RooGryphon
fuck the shareholders. welcome to reality. welcome to the world outside the united states. the rule of law now apples to you. follow it or gtfo
SergeyPrkl
No.
areyouelonmusk
Companies will increase prices because they are required to push for increased profits every year. It's still a great regulation and worth the cost.
huey9k
FUCK the shareholders. Right in their asses. With a Lighning cable.
kriswinters
The Republicans will.
CrimsonPermanentAssurance
Most Democrats love shareholders too
stayingalive4life
MedoMedic
Americans the rest of the world calls them, republivans or democrats bith corporate capitalist money elected politicians
InfOracle
Luigi can
BeaverOnFire
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TheNextHafthorBjornsson
The DOW is over 50,000!
Sooner70
I am thinking of them.... And I'm laughing.
Vungor
Im thinking of them now https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1ang5YW9oZGdrMDA5bGU2bTc4OWE5eG5mYm5waWl5aXh0amIzOGF2cSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/mCgOYVszPAPtkichMe/200w.webp
MothMonsterMan
Thank you Europe. Your rules do bleed over the pond and helps us too. Please keep going
smellsmiketeenspirit
On the other hand: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Small-smartphone-batteries-in-Europe-could-be-bigger-if-manufacturers-wanted.1132781.0.html
awkungen42
The only reason we have any consumer protections is because of Europe. Otherwise we'd be a lawless shit hole in the US. Well.. we are a lawless shit hole, but at least we have some of the protections of Europe.
calenti
We are that, with occasional care packages from across the Atlantic.
CandidGamera
No no that's evil bureaucratic overreach that stifles freedom with strangulating red tape. Only success stories like Brexit can save you from this menace.
brownribbon
We shouldn’t be depending on Europe to make things better for us. We should be demanding the same from our government.
calenti
We are demanding what we get - 65%+ of eligible men and women voted in the last election. Congress has a < 15% approval rating and a 90%+ reelection rate. Enough chose the orange turd and his pack who straight-up said they were going to enable the capitalist feudal system, so enough people want this and this just reflects who we are as a nation.
janirbasa
Absolutely. Unfortunately as of late, it feels like screaming into the void.
DukePhelan
Except that the US government does not exist to serve the interests of the people but of the oligarchs.
drGrafenberg
We are the older and more experienced relative that tries to be a stern guidance for the younger, wilder nations in the family.
IJustWantToMakeAComment
Yes but I’m also sitting here under the rule of an orange pedophile who’s bitching about a ballroom and cutting snap
Malak224
I’m so happy with Europe for forcing Apple to change from the Lightning cables, I fucking hated them.
prosper020
I hated their smart ass first responce where they kept the lightning end for the phone but made the wall plug usb-c.
EricPisch
By the time the iPhone had gone usb c, I hadn’t used a cable for years thangs to wireless charging
revelator
Apple released their Lightning port when USB-C was merely getting started as a standard. They said they'd support Lightning for a decade and they did. Apple contributed to the standard for USB-C and was an early adopter of it. They switched their Macbooks and iPads to USB-C years before it was even proposed as a standard charging port in the EU. The EU made them switch maybe a couple years earlier than they would have?
dirtyketchup
Hate them or not, the usbc port is still worse than it for smartphone use. They are bigger, more brittle, and it is 10x harder to get debris out of them compared to the lightning port.
Broken08
I hate apple but you're right
dirtyketchup
Lol, thanks. I hate Apple, too, but apparently I’m gonna get downvoted anyway.
Malak224
I didn’t downvote you but I was mostly annoyed that lightning wasn’t cross compatible with anything but Apple products.
blaghart
Just gonna point this out: the EU is only doing this because they consider it negatively impactful on foreign companies. You can bet your ass that if they considered Apple, Microsoft, Samsung, etc to be "european" they'd be bending over backwards to screw over customers in support of those corporations. Namely because the EU literally does bend over backwards to screw over customers in support of "home grown" corporations and protectionism
blaghart
I bring this up to illustrate that as beneficial as this is to consumers in the world right now, do NOT make the mistake of thinking the EU is pro-consumer or anti-capitalist. They will throw you under the bus the second they feel like they can benefit from it.
BerryButcher
Was gonna say, smart people will order phones from EU now, of course normies still won't
Yasashii93
Just make sure you still use US chargers because EU ones work on 230V rather than the US 120V. Some chargers may be designed to run on either. Check the specs. They are usually etched onto every charger.
Strategicgnomer
I'm pretty sure they'll just lock out European phones in America. At least in Canada phone companies are forced to accept all phones, but America has no such law.
PorneliusHubertII
It would be cheaper for the companies to just manufacture the same phone for all regions.
WhyWouldIUseMyRealNick
As an EU citizen, it feels crazy that there ever was a time (in 00's) where your phone and subscription were once bundled and locked to each other.
BerryButcher
ow would they do that? for example China uses separate system that is independant of ROW, but US marker does not have anything that strict, you simply insert appropriate simcard into it and it will work.
halfabubbleoff
Each country has different spectrum requirements to operate a phone. While there is broad compatibility for most networks, there can be some small but significant differences which make that “cheaper phone from another country” less than ideal.
Here’s a good write up:
https://smart.dhgate.com/buying-an-iphone-in-the-us-vs-europe-will-it-even-work-when-i-get-home/
Lynkfox
There are not that many factories that can produce something as complex as a smartphone. They can either set up 2 effectively separate production lines for every model that comes out after whatever grace period this new regulations has or they can consolidate, and sell it as a "feature".
Theyl still find some way to fleece the consumer and who knows, maybe the US\Asia market share is enough to make it worth that extra. But I suspect some will just sell the same model everywhere
jimicus
Exactly this. Apple are not going to design two different phones - one with a removable battery and one without. The most they’ll do is software lock the phone to the battery where they can.
TyrCarter
yeah, the EU can be a pain in the ass sometimes but in general it's a great place to live because stuff like that (and there's a lot of it )
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OneGoodRib
Is PornHub still the only company actually pointing out that the age verification thing is terrible for users because of how often data leaks happen? Not to mention the discord age verification thing being so fucking stupid - if you don't verify your age your account says you're a teenager, which would then make it way easier to talk to teenagers on discord?? So as a predator you just don't verify your age and then blend in with the actual teens. Wow great idea.
IrishRover
You mean their 'stupid rules' that are trying to protect children from online predators? Are you talking about their 'bad rules' that are trying to make sure everyone has a phone that you can replace a battery yourself without voiding a warranty? Those stupid\bad rules?
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IrishRover
Its just like the title of this post. It's a start. It doesn't immediately make everything better but it moves legislation in the right direction. Without these steps in place we will never be able to get what's coming down the line, like good right to repair laws and actual protective measures for children on the internet. Without these checks in place you have our current system, which even a dumb dumb like me can figure out is not working as it should.
taichanie
This is a good thing and replaceable batteries should be a thing. But remember EU also mandated micro-usb. Lighting was a much better choice
kahlas
Better how? It delivered less power, was restricted to USB-2 speeds, and the cords broke at about 10 times the rate that USB-C cords do. The only thing it was superior to was in not damaging the connector on the phone as easily as USB-C does. But soldering a new USB-C connector onto a circuit board is like a 15 minute cheap fix. I've done it myself twice with just a steady hand, soldering iron I already own, and a $8 jewelers loop with light I bought on amazon. Still have 8 spare connectors.
MedoMedic
Micro usb was an industry standard then, lightning was apple propietary and not an optiom
MothMonsterMan
Maybe, but force 1 to switch to usb-c or 999 to switch to lightning.
chiefuffaker
A Lightning cable lasted about two months before it no longer worked and the cable was trash. Even the apple ones. Good riddance lightning.
mohavewolfpup
? I had more problems with the pins in micro usb going flat then with lightning cables. The hell did you do to your cables?
fartser
It's funny that you added "even the apple ones" their cables are famous for being shit and breaking very fast.
SkittishLittleToaster
Showing us how it's done!
GentlemanScientist
The pushback has already begun, I've seen a device that technically uses USB-C but has nubs on either side so that a regular port won't fit.
viroverix
No, that's not technically USB-C.
USB-C is a standard, if you don't comply with that standard USB-IF wouldn't let you call it USB.
GentlemanScientist
They will try to get away with anything until punished for it.
hotaru251
small bit of IMPORTANT info is missing..this doesnt apply to devices w/ high IPX rating and battery able to hold high enough charge after 1000 times.
...which is every Iphone on market still as well as many other mobile phones you'd actually want.
So Apple is not changing phones/watches. (sucks but it is what it is)
1stDrunkJoe
They also change communication technologies. Good luck finding a cell tower that supports 3G and with the wide spread adoption of 5G, 4G will also be phased out.
dffksh
Not for a long while.
5G signal has a range of 2-3km max.
4G has a much longer range with better signal penetration.
And there is a reason why 2G is still widely around (industrial alarm/IoT systems, consumer alarm systems, etc.)
1stDrunkJoe
Still doesn't mean your phone will work. https://www.digi.com/blog/post/2g-3g-4g-lte-network-shutdown-updates
PanNonOpticon
From directive, when the directive does not apply:
"appliances specifically designed to operate primarily in an environment that is regularly subject to splashing water, water streams or water immersion, and that are intended to be washable or rinseable;"
I don't think any Iphone has been designed to "operate primarily in an environment that is regularly subject to splashing water"
Sjnubble
Cannot upvote this more than once unfortunately.
JBloodthorn
*Fortunately, because it's misleadingly using the wrong part of the directive.
FoxySpirit
Or "holds 80% charge after 800 charge cycles" which is the one that's relevant.
ricpaul
Lots of brands claim IP67 / IP68 ratings and then decline warranty claims because the phone got wet... Hell, I've had a IP68 Samsung Active 2 'watertight' watch drown (just outside of warranty, so no declined claim). Seems obvious manufacturers shouldn't be able to have it both ways: either it is watertight or it isn't so at the very least this distinction should favor some warranty claims. BTW, just replaced the battery on my Redmi Note 7 (glued in). Doable for me as an EE with tools, but just.
RobErtE87
Ipx7/8 is not unlimited watertight/proof tho. You'd need garmin level submersion ratings of up to 100m /10atm
impotence
Any idea of simply having an ipx rating matters though? Part of the problem is maintaining the ipx ratings while still making the devices accessible is more complex. Not impossible by any means but on smaller components sealing them with glue and such is easier.
ignotoCiResto
it's easy AF https://www.amazon.it/Lanhiem-Magnetica-Indistruttibile-Protezione-Temperato/dp/B0DQP5FYFJ just make it on the phone instead of a separate cover and add six to eight micro philips screw instead of just a pressure closing mechanism. Bam. Done.
vamdolly
was going to say similar, just look at a water cooling block or any garden house attachment screws pressure and o-rings
AllegedlyUncleTonton
Cool, now I get to continue to judge apple-users for being schmucks. :)
Durahl
Not surprising... You can't really design a premium looking device with high IP rating unless you glue everything shut together ( instead of using dozens of screws ruining the clean look everyone expects ) which makes it inherently impossible to comply with the demand of user replaceability - I mean sure, as a DIYer, I managed to swap the dying Batteries out of my two Surface Books but HOLY BRO am I NOT gonna do that ever again.
cbale2000
Basically all this will do is make cheap phones that don't have good waterproofing cost more (either so they can add waterproofing to avoid the regulation, or by making the battery replaceable).
htapoicoS
It's okay. An iphone is outdated before the battery dies anyway
JBloodthorn
Which is stupid as hell. Both my old S5 and current XCover Pro have high ipx and 1000+ charge cycle batteries and bot are user swappable.
pistok
I read the plan. It come from two law rule, but technically all needed:
- the battery is over 80% after 800 cycle
- ip67
- the manufacturer need to maintain the official battery over 7 years.
jamiedBreaker
So then what's the point of the ruling?
ropetopus
Still a huge number of devices it applies to. Like a lot of laptops. And also it aims to stop “disposable” electronics, or at least stem the tide.
Capybellie
This applies to all kinds of batteries, not only smartphones.
Afaik single-use vape pens are a major target of this ruling
jamiedBreaker
Okay, thanks. The post only mentions smartphones, so that got lost on me.
Walfas
And seriously, what are people doing to ruin their batteries so quickly? Even my old Pixel 3a was like 5-6 years old and still went a day without charge unless I was heavily using it. The only reason I upgrade my phone is because they usually have a free phone deal every now and then.
ufoara
2nd gen Qi wireless charging added a lot of heat if the coils were not aligned.
NotAllowedToArgueUnlessYouPay
Too many 100% charges; too many 0% discharges; running hot with case on; heat from wireless charging; multiple wasteful phone settings; all of the above. I replaced my iPhone8, not because the battery was dead but at over 7 years it had finally reached end of OS updates.
Lynkfox
Nothing. The batteries are designed to fail. Or have built in kill switches (See Ryobi and other power tool batteries, that when you remove the circuit boards on a "dead" battery and replace it with a generic it charges just fine and holds a charge - they literally have a kill timer on their boards) it's planned obsolescence on a grand scale to drive a buying cycle
specicom
Got any more info on that?
My 2018 Ryobi batteries are still doing fine.
MMX2019
got a bunch of dead Ryobi batteries here.
There's not a kill switch per se, but a faulty BCM, also in clones. Combined with chargers that won't charge if the current level is below 12V, leads to "dead" batteries which can be revived by hooking them up to a charged 12V battery of different origin for some time, and then re-trying.
Most customers think that the battery is dead though and replace them.
casbott
They still have to apply for an exemption for each high IPX device and also design it so that replacing the battery is as hassle free for a technician as possible - including no proprietary tech [a Fuck you Apple clause].
Thus, there is no sticking the battery behind a bunch of other components, so the entire phone has to be dissembled to reach it.
It is to be designed so that the battery is easy to reach when the phone is opened.
So if you can assemble a PC (remember that?), you can change it
tylerlarson
Also, batteries aren't the only problem. Many components (like the ssd/storage) have a limited lifespan. You can over-provision and lock out the excess to increase the lifespan, trading more time for less storage, less battery life, or less of whatever.
The device will always get worse as it ages, no matter what. Companies try to sync up the lifespan of all the components and traditionally shoot for about a 2y lifespan on the phone as a whole.
Replaceable batteries only address one piece.
sanguium
Nothing on a phone wears out in 2y unless designed to do so.
GlutenFreeCocaineWaffles
I'm honestly getting to the point where I think news shouldn't have headlines... clickbait has pretty much won the war against human intelligence at this point.
sjleegketting
Danger is more pivotal to our survival than nice things, therefore our brains prioritize bad news. Click bait just uses that. And it has existed longer than the Internet. Remember the screaming tabloids at the barber?
huffnpuff72
I read this and my first thought was how are they going to manage water resistance with a user reokacabke battery.
dffksh
XCover 2 had a pretty good design.
Hinge claws on the top, oversized tightening screw with it's own gasket on the bottom and just flexible enough back cover with well designed gasket.
battery1979
Tiny screws and gaskets.
Hexrowe
Since the '90s I've had four different water resistant phones from three different manufacturers and all of them managed it just fine.
kerezst
Thank you for the insight!
morebooksthanmusic
Everyone should be upvoting this until it's the top comment or the @CrimsonPermanentAssurance edits the post to add this information.
Sjnubble
Nope. Because this is an incomplete 'correction'. That clause only applies to devices that are intended to be submerged for most of their lifetime.
caffeinatedfirefly
Cue apple advocating for human civilization to move to the seafloor /j
morebooksthanmusic
If your correct, you are better informed than Linus and Luke where on Friday's WAN show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwIb0ATb2cc?t=2:06:22
Sjnubble
Cool. I don't know if that's a compliment for me or a diss to them but I'm fine either way.
sneakypoo
I mean.. wouldn't exactly be the first time those two speak out of their asses.