Sep 10, 2016 10:05 AM
precioushex
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author365
Dress with a beard is unusual, to be fair.
Keyguy
Was about to upvote, then realized it was Redpanels. Which is made by an actual nazi.
fencerman
So basically we're all just watching some guy masturbate while winning imaginary arguments inside his head.
vauhtihirmu
Welcome to imgur.
... What? Clearly s/he is wearing the dress BECAUSE gender is a social construct and wearing a dress is a part of that construction!
edwardelricsnipples
What's wrong with his head
atairov
Cringey.
SirCularity
This is so, so willfully stupid.
kotomikun
Is the dad's opinion meant to be satire, or is the cartoonist genuinely that dumb?
Everything is easy to refute when you grossly misunderstand it
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So, you grossly misunderstand the point?
isthisnameregistered
Hahaha! ....I don't get it.
Jawsers
Haha, this guy is such a kook.
MegaDeuce
I hate everything about this art style.
ugotclowned
Well, he had to have some way to communicate his asinine viewpoint in the laziest way possible.
mysteryghost
I always get a bad feeling about the comic when it has an art style like this. Looking the other Redpanel comics I wan't wrong.
DersitePhantom
This completely misses the point. It being a "social construct" means that it doesn't objectively matter either way, so do what feels right.
Ashabud
Dad for the win!!!!!
Dazzgracefullmoon
I don't get it
Bohzee
I took some time and wrote down the source: http://redpanels.com/
dasklaus
I want to upvote source, but can't upvote a link to that crap. :/
You don't need to, I only posted the link for the lazy, because I know the..."struggle".
aussiefromdownunda
SexyMcSugarTits
Their faces scare me
wtf...the dad proved her point. If wearing dresses is also a social construct, then there's no point in forcing her not to wear dresses.
Rawcal
But dads point was that they are silly, which the social construct status does not affect at all.
ramenbrothersandsisters
No, his unintentionally made point was that they're only silly when they're used in a way that he does not like.
Chillingworth
oifaen
I want our beards to be in tangled
I don't have that power yet, I must train my face to master the beard art.
Whatisthesecretofsoylentgreen
silverhuskyftw
.
SlevinOrKevkevOrKevin
Not that this isn't awesome, but his defender's stance is terrible
BiggieShakur
A lot of people don't worry about diffence because it's the hardest part of the game. Look at the NBA in recent years.
DoubleToasty
Spelling correctly is hard too.
Lostonline
Im savin this
kdm36
As mp4 or gif?
definitelynotchris
I fell off my couch just watching this!
Did you at least manage to do it with the same degree of style as that defenseman?
DibVsZim
It's like his brain couldn't figure out which way to tell his body to go.
DeadAccounts
Damn
121E1V
v
MrHacknslash
MrPredator
BallsToYouMyGoodSir
Glad this is still a thing
Chocofreak13
I mean, reddish coral base with a creamy yellow lace trim IS a bit silly.
goawaypleasethankyou
It's more like a pale mustard lace trim. It gets worse.
Yeahhh, that's a crusty Heinz colour. So yes, the dress is silly. Son, you can do much better.
fonzi233
actually it's coral blue number..
*smack*
McBook
IS confirmed
Hatrax
How about you just let everyone be what they want, and mind your own business?
CrustyMustard91
Only if SJWs do it first. Let people think what they want and stop trying to police thoughts and opinions.
DustinsMissingTeeth
Boneville is getting deep.
TheSkeletonWar
bonny bear
JoelGeek
That's what she said.
spicyraamen
fucking love those books
devo27
Does that make the son Phony Bone?
WoahMyDudeThatsCrazy
ChickenVegetas
As a trans female myself, it isn't just about clothes. We're wired differently. We face a man's world with a woman's ideals. We feel in 1/?
if you're reading this and wondering if you should read the whole thread, you should.
JediMasterGartHalth
So your telling me if I did something wrong to you, your response would be, "I'm fine."?
And then you'll bring it up down the road when you want to win an argument?
different ways, communicate, love, cherish, things differently than a man would. Because of this we're mocked for the things we hold 2/?
dottedglass
So what you're saying is that a man can't be a man AND love/feel/communicate differently. You reinforce the very stereotypes that hurt you.
That's not what I meant at all. I never said a man can't love the same things. What I'm saying is men and women communicate differently.
... instead of standing up to them by being a man and saying out loud that it's okay to love/feel/communicate the way you do. I've been[...]
[...] thinking that trans people have been doing it all backward by reinforcing stereotypes and you're just proving me right. You're [...]
[...] reinforcing the very stereotypes that feminism have been fighting against.
dear to our hearts. We go out of our way to help people and expect to be respected for that. But then we appear weak to "normal" people 3/?
and they destroy all that. We beg them, even though they're the one's who're hurting us. And they show no mercy. They take and give 4/?
nothing in return. Then we are faced with a decision. Become the monster that this world has made us or spare them by taking our own 5/?
lives. More often than not we choose the latter because that's how much we care. Anyway, I hope you get your kicks. I hope it's worth it.6/6
StaleMeme
PopatoMc
Thank you, was going to crop it myself.
TheBestBlasian
Saving for later use
3in4r
loyalist
XenomorphZZ
YoudBeenDunGoofd
Spanish Inquisition
llamamushroom
... yes. It is a social construct. And she wants you to call her your daughter. You're literally making her point, rektard
NotWelcomehere
then by that logic there is no such thing as "trans-ness" just people. Nah? Idk the whole thing reeks of incomplete data to me and has 4ever
mynameisnotalice
As long as gender is embedded in the society as a construct there will be transgenders. Transsexual is another thing, that's about the body.
That's a common misconception - transsexual is an old term for what is now transgender. Part of being trans is thinking your body is wrong
Having transsexuals and transgenders in my social group, I was explained there is a difference. F.e. my transwoman friend *hates*her body(1)
and will get it changed. My transman friend identifies as a man, but doesn't particularly hate his body. He will get rid of his breasts (2)
Placeboy
Different genders are treated differently, whether they should be or not. That's why trans people want to present as the one that fits them.
vidyagaem
i can understand the whole trans shit with being male or female, but the demilovatosexual stuff isn't a gender at all.
MotionOfTheOcean
Uh, and what does that made-up word has to do with anything on this post? .-.
just on the topic of people making genres that fit themselves, as the comment was talking about homeslice
Oh god I'm so sorry I asked a question people, jesus, pardon me for not censoring myself and just not getting new info lol
Mate... Look at your post and tell me that's phrased as an honest question
might try to reckon that against its current paradigm of genders and their roles into however many characters we have on one comment. 2/3
I'm really at a loss, I'm sorry you don't like the way it's phrased, it's hard to fit the question of self-identification and how society1/2
wouldn't male and female just be a spectrum embodied by different people in different measure most being predominantly one or the other?5/5
But I was legitimately asking a question about said identity and the idea that there is a default human (genderless Man) and if that's so3/4
Porecomesis
Anyone here with a gender studies degree or something? I'm genuinely curious to hear a professional opinion on this.
Not a degree in gender studies, but trans man here. He's literally making her point for her. Considering dresses feminine is a social (1/2)
construct, yes, that's why she uses them to signal how she wishes to be perceived.
Also point of pointing gender out as social construct, is not that social constructs per se are evil, but that they can be changed.
And noope, I am not having gender degree either, just interested in topic.
CottonCandiJenni
Yeah it's not about a dress "validating" the identity is the key. Dresses don't make the person, but that doesn't mean you can't dress 1/2
in a manner which socially suits your identity. Just don't get caught in the trap of thinking you -have- to do so.
Sometimes I feel like "Having to do so" is the precise reason why some trans are trans.
No degree, but what would you think it would add? It's a dumb comic for a simplistic argument. Not much to really say on it.
It'd expand the argument. Gender as a social construct, dresses appearing feminine... fascinating stuff. I'd like more details.
But what would the degree add? I've never spoken with anyone with a degree in gender studies, but there's still lots of good info/talks.
Asking for a degree was more for the sake of finding someone well-informed on the topic rather than any random jackass who's too emotional.
not meant to be "against" you or anything.
Ah, fair enough. I hope I'm not coming across as aggressive. This was partly just to get more of an idea of what you were seeking, it's 1/2
author365
Dress with a beard is unusual, to be fair.
Keyguy
Was about to upvote, then realized it was Redpanels. Which is made by an actual nazi.
fencerman
So basically we're all just watching some guy masturbate while winning imaginary arguments inside his head.
vauhtihirmu
Welcome to imgur.
vauhtihirmu
... What? Clearly s/he is wearing the dress BECAUSE gender is a social construct and wearing a dress is a part of that construction!
edwardelricsnipples
What's wrong with his head
atairov
Cringey.
SirCularity
This is so, so willfully stupid.
kotomikun
Is the dad's opinion meant to be satire, or is the cartoonist genuinely that dumb?
SirCularity
Everything is easy to refute when you grossly misunderstand it
01010111011001010110110001100011011011110110110101100101
So, you grossly misunderstand the point?
isthisnameregistered
Hahaha! ....I don't get it.
Jawsers
Haha, this guy is such a kook.
MegaDeuce
I hate everything about this art style.
ugotclowned
Well, he had to have some way to communicate his asinine viewpoint in the laziest way possible.
mysteryghost
I always get a bad feeling about the comic when it has an art style like this. Looking the other Redpanel comics I wan't wrong.
DersitePhantom
This completely misses the point. It being a "social construct" means that it doesn't objectively matter either way, so do what feels right.
Ashabud
Dad for the win!!!!!
Dazzgracefullmoon
I don't get it
Bohzee
I took some time and wrote down the source: http://redpanels.com/
dasklaus
I want to upvote source, but can't upvote a link to that crap. :/
Bohzee
You don't need to, I only posted the link for the lazy, because I know the..."struggle".
aussiefromdownunda
SexyMcSugarTits
Their faces scare me
ugotclowned
wtf...the dad proved her point. If wearing dresses is also a social construct, then there's no point in forcing her not to wear dresses.
Rawcal
But dads point was that they are silly, which the social construct status does not affect at all.
ramenbrothersandsisters
No, his unintentionally made point was that they're only silly when they're used in a way that he does not like.
Chillingworth
oifaen
I want our beards to be in tangled
Chillingworth
I don't have that power yet, I must train my face to master the beard art.
Whatisthesecretofsoylentgreen
silverhuskyftw
.
SlevinOrKevkevOrKevin
Not that this isn't awesome, but his defender's stance is terrible
BiggieShakur
A lot of people don't worry about diffence because it's the hardest part of the game. Look at the NBA in recent years.
DoubleToasty
Spelling correctly is hard too.
Lostonline
Im savin this
kdm36
As mp4 or gif?
definitelynotchris
I fell off my couch just watching this!
Whatisthesecretofsoylentgreen
Did you at least manage to do it with the same degree of style as that defenseman?
DibVsZim
It's like his brain couldn't figure out which way to tell his body to go.
DeadAccounts
Damn
121E1V
MrHacknslash
MrPredator
BallsToYouMyGoodSir
Glad this is still a thing
Chocofreak13
I mean, reddish coral base with a creamy yellow lace trim IS a bit silly.
goawaypleasethankyou
It's more like a pale mustard lace trim. It gets worse.
Chocofreak13
Yeahhh, that's a crusty Heinz colour. So yes, the dress is silly. Son, you can do much better.
fonzi233
actually it's coral blue number..
Chillingworth
*smack*
McBook
IS confirmed
Hatrax
How about you just let everyone be what they want, and mind your own business?
CrustyMustard91
Only if SJWs do it first. Let people think what they want and stop trying to police thoughts and opinions.
DustinsMissingTeeth
Boneville is getting deep.
TheSkeletonWar
bonny bear
JoelGeek
That's what she said.
spicyraamen
fucking love those books
devo27
Does that make the son Phony Bone?
WoahMyDudeThatsCrazy
ChickenVegetas
As a trans female myself, it isn't just about clothes. We're wired differently. We face a man's world with a woman's ideals. We feel in 1/?
SirCularity
if you're reading this and wondering if you should read the whole thread, you should.
JediMasterGartHalth
So your telling me if I did something wrong to you, your response would be, "I'm fine."?
JediMasterGartHalth
And then you'll bring it up down the road when you want to win an argument?
ChickenVegetas
different ways, communicate, love, cherish, things differently than a man would. Because of this we're mocked for the things we hold 2/?
dottedglass
So what you're saying is that a man can't be a man AND love/feel/communicate differently. You reinforce the very stereotypes that hurt you.
ChickenVegetas
That's not what I meant at all. I never said a man can't love the same things. What I'm saying is men and women communicate differently.
dottedglass
... instead of standing up to them by being a man and saying out loud that it's okay to love/feel/communicate the way you do. I've been[...]
dottedglass
[...] thinking that trans people have been doing it all backward by reinforcing stereotypes and you're just proving me right. You're [...]
dottedglass
[...] reinforcing the very stereotypes that feminism have been fighting against.
ChickenVegetas
dear to our hearts. We go out of our way to help people and expect to be respected for that. But then we appear weak to "normal" people 3/?
ChickenVegetas
and they destroy all that. We beg them, even though they're the one's who're hurting us. And they show no mercy. They take and give 4/?
ChickenVegetas
nothing in return. Then we are faced with a decision. Become the monster that this world has made us or spare them by taking our own 5/?
ChickenVegetas
lives. More often than not we choose the latter because that's how much we care. Anyway, I hope you get your kicks. I hope it's worth it.6/6
StaleMeme
PopatoMc
Thank you, was going to crop it myself.
TheBestBlasian
Saving for later use
3in4r
loyalist
3in4r
XenomorphZZ
YoudBeenDunGoofd
Spanish Inquisition
llamamushroom
... yes. It is a social construct. And she wants you to call her your daughter. You're literally making her point, rektard
NotWelcomehere
then by that logic there is no such thing as "trans-ness" just people. Nah? Idk the whole thing reeks of incomplete data to me and has 4ever
mynameisnotalice
As long as gender is embedded in the society as a construct there will be transgenders. Transsexual is another thing, that's about the body.
llamamushroom
That's a common misconception - transsexual is an old term for what is now transgender. Part of being trans is thinking your body is wrong
mynameisnotalice
Having transsexuals and transgenders in my social group, I was explained there is a difference. F.e. my transwoman friend *hates*her body(1)
mynameisnotalice
and will get it changed. My transman friend identifies as a man, but doesn't particularly hate his body. He will get rid of his breasts (2)
Placeboy
Different genders are treated differently, whether they should be or not. That's why trans people want to present as the one that fits them.
vidyagaem
i can understand the whole trans shit with being male or female, but the demilovatosexual stuff isn't a gender at all.
MotionOfTheOcean
Uh, and what does that made-up word has to do with anything on this post? .-.
vidyagaem
just on the topic of people making genres that fit themselves, as the comment was talking about homeslice
NotWelcomehere
Oh god I'm so sorry I asked a question people, jesus, pardon me for not censoring myself and just not getting new info lol
llamamushroom
Mate... Look at your post and tell me that's phrased as an honest question
NotWelcomehere
might try to reckon that against its current paradigm of genders and their roles into however many characters we have on one comment. 2/3
NotWelcomehere
I'm really at a loss, I'm sorry you don't like the way it's phrased, it's hard to fit the question of self-identification and how society1/2
NotWelcomehere
wouldn't male and female just be a spectrum embodied by different people in different measure most being predominantly one or the other?5/5
NotWelcomehere
But I was legitimately asking a question about said identity and the idea that there is a default human (genderless Man) and if that's so3/4
Porecomesis
Anyone here with a gender studies degree or something? I'm genuinely curious to hear a professional opinion on this.
dasklaus
Not a degree in gender studies, but trans man here. He's literally making her point for her. Considering dresses feminine is a social (1/2)
dasklaus
construct, yes, that's why she uses them to signal how she wishes to be perceived.
MotionOfTheOcean
Also point of pointing gender out as social construct, is not that social constructs per se are evil, but that they can be changed.
MotionOfTheOcean
And noope, I am not having gender degree either, just interested in topic.
CottonCandiJenni
Yeah it's not about a dress "validating" the identity is the key. Dresses don't make the person, but that doesn't mean you can't dress 1/2
CottonCandiJenni
in a manner which socially suits your identity. Just don't get caught in the trap of thinking you -have- to do so.
dottedglass
Sometimes I feel like "Having to do so" is the precise reason why some trans are trans.
CottonCandiJenni
No degree, but what would you think it would add? It's a dumb comic for a simplistic argument. Not much to really say on it.
Porecomesis
It'd expand the argument. Gender as a social construct, dresses appearing feminine... fascinating stuff. I'd like more details.
CottonCandiJenni
But what would the degree add? I've never spoken with anyone with a degree in gender studies, but there's still lots of good info/talks.
Porecomesis
Asking for a degree was more for the sake of finding someone well-informed on the topic rather than any random jackass who's too emotional.
CottonCandiJenni
not meant to be "against" you or anything.
CottonCandiJenni
Ah, fair enough. I hope I'm not coming across as aggressive. This was partly just to get more of an idea of what you were seeking, it's 1/2