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Killing an endangered lion
Killing a critically endangered Sierra Nevada bighorn sheep
Killing a critically endangered black rhinoceros
Killing a leopard
Killing an elk
WorldWideWalkabout
But thats not a black rhino. It's a white Rhino, still douchey but don't spread false information.
Armored0Titan0
But it's a non-endangerd breed...
MeMePickMePlease
This is making me sad.. and angry.. SANGRY
hermionejeangrangerweasley
You should sing the petition - Justice for Cecil. http://www.thepetitionsite.com/821/738/351/demand-justice-for-cecil-the-lion-in-zimbambwe/
deadsteve
Well fuck this man in particular
foreignfets
What a piece of shit
Teasers
But he has great teeth.
spacecadetout
If I were his patient, I would feel so guilty for giving him money that would eventually be spent on this.
Thereisnosafeword
I feel like you're just retarded for knowing that he's a hunter and still giving him patronage.
Armored0Titan0
Meh, the lion is the only one that'd be illegal, and that one might not even be entirely his fault.
IAbandonedThisAccountPleaseDoNotLookAnymoreThanks
Everyone is crying about him killing animals which most are legal to hunt, then they go full hypocrite and want to kill him for fun? k
tuxedobob
But I *like* lions!
Thereisnosafeword
Welcome to Imgur. Full of really stupid people with 4th grade worldviews.
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Armored0Titan0
Sorry about the downvotes bud, you worded that a little too well for Poe's Law to not kick in.
quantumdoc
You equate the killing of animals to killing of another person?
ResetButton
the /s at the end of the post is to indicate sarcasm. I certainly do not, my bacon and eggs would be much more evil.
quantumdoc
Sorry. Learned something today.
Tinki
I don't understand. The posing, the smiling, the glee after watching suffering and pain and the light going out in someone's eyes. .. How?
NOINOON
To ensure him that his masculinity does in fact exist. I personally don't see the connection but many people do.
thatsbadass
He reminds me of the most dangerous game I read in middle school.
Thereisnosafeword
It's a fucking animal, not a "someone."
ohsighcanada
This is how wars are started, my friend. Not everyone with opposing thumbs and capable of articulate speech is necessarily a human being.
pintDMG
You'd get along splendidly with Hirohito and Hitler...
ohsighcanada
You got it totally wrong. I was saying that inhuman folks like that dentist start wars. English? Hello? You and the other downvote fairies.
BardicLasher
Because animals are not "Someones" they're "somethings", and killing a big cat is no different, morally, from killing a cow.
Thereisnosafeword
I'm glad to see that not everybody on Imgur is a fucking lunatic. This lion shit is out of control.
balthcat
This can be argued.
Thereisnosafeword
No.
balthcat
Yes.
BardicLasher
It can. It sounds like a fun argument, actually. Ooh, maybe you should argue that the big cat is rarer and thus more valuable?
SaintMaceToTheFace
It is more valuable. That's why he paid $50k to go on this hunt
BardicLasher
Well, if he paid for it, what's the issue?
balthcat
Honestly the big cat is perhaps more valuable than the dentist.
BardicLasher
I dunno. have you seen the price tag on dentists these days? And it just keeps going up.
5outof7deadlysins
Honest question: Somebody explain me why people hunt without eating the animals. I mean, does it make people feel empowered or something?
PrestigeWorldwideFirstWordInEntertainment
Some ppl are purely trophy hunters which isn't really hunting but most ppl will take the animal and feed it to the local village since you 1
stopthief
In Australia, many hunt feral species which massively damage the environment. Some are eaten, like pigs and rabbits.
PrestigeWorldwideFirstWordInEntertainment
Won't be able to get that much meat back to the states and they want to help them.
weilong
In this case older males are kileld because they prevent younger males from breeding & auction money pays rangers that manage the animals
OverpricedCrayon
I don't get it either. Especially the endangered animals. Its just why, I can't comprehend a good reason. Its senseless violence.
5outof7deadlysins
Fair enough @Ichangedmyusernamesonoonewouldknowitsme and I kinda agree with that. But what about endagered speciaes like #1 , #3 and #4 ?
VisionC
*vulnerable Lion, *endangered Sierra Nevada Bighorn, *near threatened WHITE Rhino. First of all, know your IUCN before making this post. 1/?
VisionC
Secondly, elk are overpopulated and need to be hunted, and that bighorn was legit. I can't immediately find delicious sauce 2/?
VisionC
for the others, but in many countries it is legal (And helps conservation) to hunt for most other species. With the lion, he was a cunt 3/?
VisionC
But please don't use hunting as an excuse to make someone a cunt, use illegal hunting as an excuse instead. 4/4
Nirak
Imgur is getting real pitch forky lately...
kimberkara
damn skippy.
thisplaceisnotforyou
It's not just imgur, the whole world is outraged across multiple platforms. There are so many problems with this kill in particular.
tuxedobob
The tumblr side of imgur, as it were.
46853
Cotton Candy! Get your cotton candy! Can't throw a riot without cotton candy!
poofleia
-----E Do you want one too?
JFKWASASCAPEGOAT
mass hysteria
MileHighLivin
Aww man, you had me until the elk, haha. I can see if your opinion is that hunting sucks, but people hunt elk Alllll the time
Unquote
People fart in an elevator all the time too, doesn't make it okay.
mouseg
Underrated post right here!
peepinginyourshower
Except elk are actually highly overpopulated in some areas
DieStabby
Why is that? Oh right, because we keep killing all of their natural predators.
peepinginyourshower
I didn't deny that. Hunting is already highly controlled or banned altogether on their predators, but populations don't rebound overnight
DieStabby
Bear, puma, and wolf hunting are still legal and done regularly. They don't want their populations that high, they want hunting revenue.
kong210
Devil's advocate: He did pay for these hunts (other than Cecil) so it is unfair to attack him for problems with the sport as a whole.
huanthewolfhound
Personally, this seems to be turning into another typical hate-filled Internet vigilante festival, and I am not comfortable with it.
Slothdrivebynapping
killing things for sport
SaintMaceToTheFace
That is hunting yea
JT1984
I come from a family of hunters, but we only ever hunt animals for food, like whitetail, elk and moose. I can't understand shooting a rhino.
JumpTheCheeseburger
He paid for this one too, and the guys he paid are being charged with poaching. Anyone who kills for sport like this are cowards.
Armored0Titan0
He may have paid for an older one that wasn't breeding and needed culling anyway.
marthabot
you see, its them paying that makes poorer people do this https://thoughtcatalog.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/fuyzr00.jpg?w=1024&h=1434
weilong
No,he payed the conservation organization that auctions culling kills each year to raise money. They are going to kill them anyway (1/2)
marthabot
oh, I see. With the endangered bit in it I didn't realize lions were culled. Thanks!
Armored0Titan0
Yeah, older nonbreeders can scare breeding ones, so they have to go.
weilong
as older nonbreeding males take up resources and even kill younger males + auction money to pay the rangers that manage the animals (2/2)
balthcat
No it isn't. Just because something is legal doesn't make it right.
kong210
With that logic though people could harass me at work, because they don't think my drinking habit is 'right'? Obviously a blown up eg
balthcat
They could, and in some moral frameworks they should. The truth is, it all comes down to what we feel is right and wrong. (or "fair")
ButterfaceTaintClown
Oh boo hoo. We've upset his feelings.
kong210
His place of work had to close for a few days because of all the shit, what about his receptionist who could be out a job for example?
thisplaceisnotforyou
Maybe they should work for better people. If they couldn't find one of those then that says more about them.
cinqodewillo
He could be a good boss. Jobs are hard to find now a days, I wouldnt throw away my job because I disagree with my bosses personal interests.
thisplaceisnotforyou
Not sure you can be a terrible human being and a good boss at the same time. Does not compute. He sounds like a sociopath.
ButterfaceTaintClown
If I brought my business into disrepute I would be held accountable.
tuxedobob
Welcome to the internet rage machine. Collateral damage is acceptable.
balthcat
If he's arrested & extradited her job would also be in danger. Should repercussions be avoided completely b/c someone innocent might pay?
tuxedobob
Her job might be, sure. But you *know* someone's out there foaming at the mouth about how someone should go shoot him at work.
tuxedobob
Hell, I saw a comment on another site that very closely said that his "family should run from that psychopath." Internet's quick to demonize
NewOldMan456
Except for that black bear in Wisconsin. Lied to the feds about it. And the fact that he never checked to see if the permits were legal.
NewOldMan456
While I don't think we should throw him to the gallows. He didn't seem all to concerned after killing Cecil to report it. And has a past (1/
NewOldMan456
Illegal hunting.
KalansPhantom
That's what upsets me. People fixate on the dentist, not the problems with the sport that they have that make them legal. :/
Armored0Titan0
Well that's because the sport isn't much of an issue.
KalansPhantom
The government and laws are easily abused, as you can see here and the many lions hunted from the preserve. The articles say this is common
balthcat
Why shouldn't we vilify the consumer as well as the producer?
KalansPhantom
Because barely anyone if vilifying the producer, it's all become about the dentist.
balthcat
(5) ... (Bronkhorst) without going after the black guy (Ndlovu). It's also not completely clear from what happened that the entire...
balthcat
That's a terrifically weak argument for a stunning array of reasons. Firstly, we generally react to disparities between what...
balthcat
(5) ...resisting the offer of money, or even coercion, to commit a crime (not saying this happened). And we can't go after the white guy...
balthcat
(7) ...arrogant, entitled prick who gets a boner from murdering endangered species is actually a pretty damned logical approach.
balthcat
(6) ...pay to slay model in Zimbabwe is corrupt, so an all-out war on the state itself isn't really viable either. Targetting the rich...
balthcat
(9) I mean really, wouldn't you be super surprised if liberals didn't have a problem with the entire west ganging up on Zimbabwe? :P
KalansPhantom
This has happened before, with many hunters, it always fades away. We fixate on them and after a few weeks get outraged about the next (1)
balthcat
(3) ...more in line with what we feel should be the case. Palmer is at home. Additionally, it gets complicated politically if we start...
balthcat
...we feel should be the outcome and what the actual outcome is. Two Zimbabweans have been arrested and are out on bail, which is...
balthcat
(4) ...to try to vilify a Zimbabwean hunter who may or may not be economically reliant on hunters, and who might have a hard time...
balthcat
(8) As long as we don't also forget to make sure Zimbabwe & other pay-to-slay industry folk know they're on notice.
whenlifegivesyoulemonsaskfortequila
He payed for a lion too, just not Cecil they led him off the reserve :/
kong210
Don't get me wrong, I hate hunting, think it's an awful sport, but by the looks of it, people's jobs are being affected by this witch hunt
balthcat
His job should be affected.
MagelloFernada
And the jobs of the people who work for him?
balthcat
How is this relevant? Should we keep all awful people in business just because others are dependant on them? Take a worse case: a pedophile.
balthcat
Do we not drum a pedophile out of business because his secretary needs her salary?
SaintMaceToTheFace
This. They are putting people out of work
jackbos
*Hunting legally after purchasing a licence, which are sold to thin animal herds and keep their populations stable and healthy.
Mec26
Also, illegally sometimes, in areas designated no-kill. E.g. black bear in Wisconsin.
SaintMaceToTheFace
This is evil to imgur.
DoakMD
I read that Cecil took 40 hours to die. Fuck this grinning prick.
delpharseven
Correct. Put an arrow in it then tracked it down after 40hrs and shot it. Then tried (and failed) to destroy the GPS collar to cover it up.
delpharseven
Oh and they used bait to lure it out of a national park. And skinned and beheaded it. Yay trophies!
davidthe4th
Think about the other animals that fed off of the carcass that was left behind though. Possibly feeding other endangered animals.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Sometimes it's really hard to be a humanist when all you want to do is destroy so many of that which you love.
Arzanim
He first shot it, but then the lion ran away, and it took a lot of time to track the lion again and kill it
ButIDidntDieThoughItWasAJoke
That seems to be the part people miss. They make it sound like he shot it, let it bleed out, then came back. Still a p.o.s though.
cinqodewillo
Yea, not like he went for a nap and some food then decided he would go find it, he spent 40 hours tracking it
aels3
Can someone explain what happens to these animals afterward? Like is there a rhino head mounted in his house?
AdmiralCheesecake
Horns are chopped off and corpse left to rot I'd imagine
AdmiralCheesecake
-1... What do you guys think would happen with poaching? Which is what this is, killing an endangered animal. No way this guy
AdmiralCheesecake
would be going home with a fucking RHINO HEAD. And I get downvoted for explaining the same thing 2 other people have :)
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AdmiralCheesecake
Some guy's having a downvote party on this post.
ian9outof10
The US bans the import of certain things, in the case of the Lion he was trying to get it back to the US I think.
nofearbioishere
Cecil's head is held as evidence in Zimbabwe
Dsharppe
South Africa repealed the law that was stopping people from bring home trophies.
ian9outof10
Great. Fuck them too.
Dsharppe
mayonaiselover
A lot of big game hunters that hunt in Africa, donate the meat from the kills to local African tribes.
bretth4735
For many hunts its a requirement.
thisplaceisnotforyou
He didn't, he just left the carcass to rot. That's the reason for so much outrage. He killed just to watch something die.
mayonaiselover
Do you have proof?
thisplaceisnotforyou
Yes. The government of Zimbabwe. Do you have proof he didn't?
opkraut
Link to a source?
mayonaiselover
I never stated he did. I simply said not all big game hunters waste the kill. I'm a hunter, but we're not all douche bags like this guy.
Thereisnosafeword
Not a good argument.
aels3
Like...he shoots them, takes his pic, and THEN WHAT? Are the animals left for the "bad guys" to come in and sell the skin, horns, etc.?
ResetButton
In a proper hunt, there is no trophy. Ivory goes to the government. Meat goes to the locals. Everything else is donated to research.
bretth4735
Except for the photo.
delpharseven
Well we know they beheaded and skinned the lion. So they: were going to keep them, sell them, or were trying to destroy evidence.
kibbypie
I read in some stories he did take the head for a trophy. No word on what was done with the body.
o0m9
Elk's not a big deal. They get hunted for meat all the time. The others are pretty serious though .
cinsoniTe
The elk's life was far more precious than yours could ever be.
LiberatedPiglet
What a thundercunt.
SlightlyNormal
You cant really attack him based on this gallery alone, for all you know he paid for and had permit for all those animals, it's preservation
getadogupya
Sure they can. To you, it's fine, others think anyone who goes around killing animals so they can have their photo taken is a thundercunt.
SlightlyNormal
Right, so those others by proxy support extinction of endangered animals. Got it.
balthcat
Yeah, this is totally the only way to support conservation!
SlightlyNormal
Only way? No, but it's a significant contributor, money don't just magically flow in through donations alone.
SlightlyNormal
have a read: http://conservationmagazine.org/2014/01/can-trophy-hunting-reconciled-conservation/
Gornsympathizer
How do you even kill a rhinoceros with a bow?
Nalrus
Sharp tips and poison? I'm not sure.
quintusfontane
Same way they hunt most larger game with bows - stick it with an arrow (Or arrows) and chase/track the thing until it collapses.
MOTHERFUCKINGLOKI
Crit.
Cinemageddon
Shoot it with an elephant gun, then take a picture of yourself next to it with a bow.
MaladaptedMedic
Fuck it... any man that can kill a rhino with a bow deserves the chance to do it
andimusprime
I hate and love you at the same time.
skumchiken
Slowly.
BardicLasher
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd_-fG02-fE
ChunkyKong
Don't listen to the ignorant here. Given the right poundage (caliber of bow) and arrow, you could drop any beast cleanly.
Mrfluegel
I've been bow hunting for 10 years and I've never heard of someone killed a rhino with a bow. I would like to know his hunting setup.
GradiustheFox
I know arrows hit WAY harder than vidya would have you believe, but a RHINO? You'd think it would survive the wound long enough to gore you.
ChunkyKong
Most hunters will always try to put the arrow in the heart, which ends it quickly.
balthcat
And if they fail, the animal suffers, which delegitimizes the method.
ChunkyKong
The same statement holds true with any weapon. No matter the skill or weapon, people miss.
ian9outof10
I don't care. I would be interested in hunting a dentist with a bow though.
iyamgurting
the movie Running Man comes thought.
delpharseven
Probably the same way they killed the lion. Injure it, then track it down and use a rifle to put it out of its misery.
CedarYurks
As backward as it seems, hunting endangered species actually helps conserve them if done responsibly. Fish and game departments will (1/2)
Teknoshit
you actually buy that bull shit?
CedarYurks
Generally auction off a small number of tags for ridiculous amounts of money and use the proceeds to finance conservation programs. (2/2)
kibbypie
But wasn't he still a breeding male? Isn't it limited to older, non-breeding animals?
CedarYurks
Yeah, this guy fucked up.
quantumdoc
Be careful. Logic not welcome here.
natachan
Devils advocate again: according to news he bid for the right to kill that big horn. They auction the rights to kill 3 a year.
SamMan
Just because it's legal doesn't mean it's right.
yoshi
so when's the auction being held for the right to kill him?
quantumdoc
We don't need this kind of thinking to get started. Be careful.
Ruhig
http://conservationmagazine.org/2014/01/can-trophy-hunting-reconciled-conservation/
davidthe4th
At least somebody did dome research. Thank you
Iamtheonewhogrowls
How about the sociopaths just DONATE the permit funds to conservation istead of satisfying blood lust?
Conradian
Not all hunters are sociopaths. Just like not all Imgurians are idiots.
Iamtheonewhogrowls
True, but if you're hunting endangered species, you are a sociopath if not a full-blown narcissist.
Conradian
If you're hunting something like a lion, and you know it's wrong... You're just evil, not even sociopathy is an excuse.
Ruhig
Because that doesn't work, and this does?
rasmis
Also from the news: The Eiffel Tower is being sold for scrap! Auction here! And Lady Libery and the White House! DM me for PayPal info.
natachan
I'm not falling for that again. :p
rasmis
Good news: You're eligible for a return customer discount!
natachan
Oh, in that case... :D
LuxuryHotline
Problem is, he let it suffer for 40 hours and attempted to destroy the GPS tracker it had. He clearly knew he was doing something wrong.
Thereisnosafeword
You don't fucking know that. At all. So stop talking out of your ass.
LuxuryHotline
It's become known that he did. Look up your own claims before trying to oust someone out on their own.
Thereisnosafeword
No, it hasn't. He is still ACCUSED at this point. Nothing has been proven. You gullible piece of shit.
LuxuryHotline
There wouldn't be accusations without reliable evidence. You need to calm down.
InvadingYourSpaces
You're speaking of the Lion, but replying to a post speaking of the sheep.
SlightlyNormal
This post is about completely different incidents however.
LuxuryHotline
Ok I'm getting a lot of devil's advocate replies concerning either his guides or himself being uninformed, etc. But when it comes to (1/2)
LuxuryHotline
(2/2) Hunting like this, being educated about them is important or else you end up killing something you're not supposed to.
MagelloFernada
Why do people keep saying he let it bleed? As if the lion didn't run away and go hide? He didn't choose to have the lion bug out.
Armored0Titan0
Ikr? Do people think he just sat 20 feet away for a day and half before saying "Fuck it" and shooting it?
mcbcmchn
If he saw his guides got him an illegal animal, he'd probably not want to get caught and thrown in a 3rd-world jail. Doesn't prove anything.
MrKrillin
They didn't just let it suffer for kicks, it took them that long to track it down. Also no evidence he knew it was a tagged lion.
balthcat
As the source of the cash he's pretty much entirely responsible for what his cash buys. He should have paid more for responsible guides.
Naiirita
they were licensed by the official Zimbabwe hunting group.
balthcat
So what? His money, his fault. That's how personal responsibility works. He should have tried harder, obviously.
natachan
Again though do we know it was him leading the action and not also the guides? He's obviously got a dodgy rap by what about them?
LuxuryHotline
He's the one paying for all of this, so of course he's in the spotlight. Fuck those guides as well.
natachan
I wonder what he would rate them on trip advisor?
KingoftheIntroverts
He paid for illegal actions and contributed to trying to conceal it, not to mention letting it suffer nearly two full days. Fuck him.
Armored0Titan0
had to track it down, and that MAYBE took a little while.
Armored0Titan0
You got any evidence of him letting it suffer intentionally? Or do you think maybe the animal that just got a hole in its ass bolted and he
KingoftheIntroverts
to hunt instead of, y'know, walking, so they could drive after it. And why should we defend a poacher anyway? He's an asshole. 2/2
KingoftheIntroverts
He used a bow instead of a firearm, indicating he didn't care about ending its life quickly. Also, ostensibly they drove out there
elgordo889
Keep the logic away from the lynch mob, please.
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isayfuckoff
Are you saying all hunters are cowards?
natachan
I don't like that they seemed to torture the lion although it is probably how traditional hunting works by stalking the injured one.
Outchasingshadows
It took the lion 40 hours to die.
natachan
Yeah that's what I mean.
daraos
That only makes the other bidders cunts too.
Surrealle
Used to think this was okay until I read that tourism money and a ban on hunting does MUCH more for many species populations
ThaiMaiShu
That's... actually a really smart way to raise money to help endangered species
Treblaine
That's the way the world works. Thousands send death threats to the dentist but don't send a penny to the conservation efforts.
Chocolatesporks
Why the heck do they auction the right to kill any number of them if they're endangered?
Threewisemen
Because each hunt sells for 30-50k and raising 90-150k a year buys a lot of habitat, protection, and research to help the species.
Zygro
To raise money for conservation efforts of others. Getting the money is hard, because people who are willing to donate don't know this sheep
weilong
Older nonbreeding males taking up resources and even killing younger males + auction money to pay the rangers that manage the animals
Thereisnosafeword
CON-SER-VA-TION. Fucking look it up, people. Stop posting shit if you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
SlightlyNormal
It was old? Aggressive and attacked other animals? Sick? Do you moral freaks ever take time to stop and think.
ThaiMaiShu
Nope they don't that's the point, they just see an animal killed and lose their shit without details
Bent0916
Regulated culling is part of conservation. Taking out problematic individuals can save the whole population.
natachan
Maybe it's to prevent illegal hunting and to raise money for conservation
maythedoctorbewithyou
That's actually 100% what it is meant to do.
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TrollRehab
Sometimes, an older-member becomes sterile but still poses a physical threat to other males. It is better for the species to eliminate them.
revanisthesith
I read some article that said they raised about $200,000 by auctioning off the rights to hunt & kill 3 a year. That's a lot of money.
revanisthesith
I read some article that said they raised about $200,000 by auctioning off the rights to hunt & kill 3 a year. That's a lot of money.
cinqodewillo
I read it was like $200,000 a piece, one as high was $350,000
revanisthesith
You're probably right. And it's gotta be harder to raise lots of money for them than it is for animals like pandas or manatees.
BakedOn
You're not thinking outside the box; im happy you got some replies
SemperIftheotherguy
The best way to increase the numbers of an endangered species is to legalize hunting them and give control of licenses to a local community.
balthcat
Citation needed.
SemperIftheotherguy
Sorry for the delay, real life. One success story is The Communal Areas Management Programme for Indigenous Resources (CAMPFIRE) 1/?
SemperIftheotherguy
This was backed by the WWF, and let local communities profit by controlling local wildlife, including selling hunting rights. 2/?
UndoneDuncan
In some animals, an infertile alpha will stop betas from breeding, so getting rid of the alpha helps the species.
27yoUGLYvirgin
As an omega, does this relate to humans? How many do I have to kill to breed........
only90skidswillgetthis
I could use that tactic.
nanikaprofound
It's some hours since you posted, but great comment, itsmabus. It's a bit of a cliché to say "I literally lolled" but in fact, I did!
ShadowXII
When they're old/sick/infertile, they auction it off for conservation income.
INoLongerCareBoutThisName
As much as I hate it when they kill animals that aren't for food-related that makes sense.
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ShadowXII
That rule is in place. So, might as well find a way to make it legal without hurting the cause and making tons of money for it too.
IspelStufWrongeAlTeTim
the animal can no longer help with the endandgerment issue so the 50k or whatever gets put towards funding that helps more of the animals.
gamblingpoet
Instead of hunting (if you can call it that), they should donate the money and have a vet put it down. Fuck these guys (and girls).
DictatorofPussy
They are not endangered at all. The tags are hard to get though. So they sell tags, at outrageous prices.
JT1984
They are endangered. They face habitat loss from introduced mouflon, and inbreeding.
DictatorofPussy
Hmmm...I'm often wrong and am always looking to learn...can you recommend a good source where I can do some reading?
JT1984
focus on specific causes of population decline, i.e, disease, overhunting, competition from introduced species and domestic sheep,
JT1984
and habitat destruction.
JT1984
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JT1984
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jwmg.232/abstract;jsessionid=AC39CE37C3622E998BFA10509F91AE8E.f03t04?userIsAuthenticated=false&
JT1984
THis is just the abstract, as I believe you need to be a member. There are several other papes I can cite if you want, but each focuses on
JT1984
here's a full one- http://www.jstor.org/stable/3803110?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents
IAmJacksViagraInducedErection
Thank you! Geewhiz eh
DatDurTho
The guy is definitely not a great person but I feel people are definitely treating him as satan a little too much.
Dipityseren
Illegal or not-this shit is sick. Who the hell needs this - go find the nearest endangered beastie & sit in a car and shoot it. Utter cunt.
natachan
Well it is arguably better than the practice of shooting them when they're in an enclosure. Fish in a barrel
fatmando666
I was going to say something. There is nothing wrong with paying a country to kill an animal because it goes to protecting the species
JT1984
Yeah, but, he could of shot something that isn't threatened, and makes a good trophy, like a Cape Buffalo. Not a fucking rhino.
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fatmando666
This man didn't pay a country or a wild life reserve. He paid shady people to sneak him in for the kill
DavidBowiesBulgeInLabyrinth
Maybe an unpopular comment: Even selling the right to shoot one thats dying or aggressive perpetuates that shooting these animals is "cool
fatmando666
Sure, but making sure a species doesn't die out when they are already dwindling isn't cheap.
balthcat
Yup, it totally commoditizes the species.
Armored0Titan0
Which in turn drums up more revenue to support it. Ethical? Certainly not. Effective? Quite possibly.
balthcat
Perhaps the chasm that creates between the ethical approach and the current approach is a problem in itself that merits a few...
balthcat
...ineffective approaches, or even complete failures, in the pursuit of a sustainable ethical model.
FUCKIAMHARD
How many protected lions do they auction off every year without anyone's consent? Is that info published?
LarfleezePlz
Seven0seven
Yea I'm not buying that bullshit he said about he thought it was all 'Legal' after seeing this.
hermionejeangrangerweasley
You should sing the petition - Justice for Cecil. http://www.thepetitionsite.com/821/738/351/demand-justice-for-cecil-the-lion-in-zimbambwe/
khora
Oh, you didn't know? We can't arrest you then.
porkchopexpress
I thought dentist only thought about killing themselves. Too bad
harobed7756
He didn't know he was right next to or in a sanctuary? That's a national park?
SugarSmack
Weird. Apparently, neither did the rangers that he bribed.
harobed7756
He could be tried in the US for that. Travel Act forbids foreign travel with the intent to engage in unlawful activities, including bribery.
CaptainMuricas
I'm just worried that's BFM with him!!!???
azazyel
They baited the lion: “You find a lion, put the bait out and wait for the lion to come in,”
mcbcmchn
That's how you hunt. That's why you can buy doe urine for hunting.
Recaffeinated
Last time I checked ignorance of the law isn't an excuse anyway.
Alcard
So… can we like shoot him in the balls or something?
MMCK84
Anyways, it's his fucking duty to inform himself...
wolfpreist
I consider myself a hunter, but this guys just an ass.
CaintheCannibal
Is that why he cut off the tracking tag?
Ruhig
http://conservationmagazine.org/2014/01/can-trophy-hunting-reconciled-conservation/
LeCacty
Who the fuck kills a rhino? I hope his anal circumference is increased a hundered fold by a chargin rhino.
hadtochangeitcosdavefoundme
You don't bribe rangers for something "legal"
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hadtochangeitcosdavefoundme
I meant in this instance you don't think you have to bribe a ranger that much money to do something you think is legal to do.
MaterielGirl
How much was it?
hadtochangeitcosdavefoundme
$35k - to get rangers to lure the lion out of the park so it could be shot.
ResetButton
Not saying this was the case here in his mind, but you do pay for hunting tags in Africa though.
hadtochangeitcosdavefoundme
Yeah I get that, but he knew full well that paying a ranger than much to allow him do it wasn't getting a hunting tag
Morrigi
You do in Africa.
icorrectyourgerman
is there a way to contact this man?
Mec26
If you find one, tell the authorities. People are looking to contact him.
TchallaVII
Make an appointment. He's a dentist.
BeardselyMcTurbanhead
Or that he didn't know Cecil was famous. Fucker, you shouldn't kill lions, period!
DemSumBigAssRidges
Well, that's up for debate, but this particular illegality is not. Fucker should be shot and bled out for 40 days too.
Thereisnosafeword
That's a totally reasonable response! Wow. Your parents must be proud.
DemSumBigAssRidges
I meant to say hours... since he let the lion bleed to death for over that amount of time
Thereisnosafeword
He didn't LET the lion do anything. Not sure if you're aware, but generally when animals get attacked, they RUN AWAY.
SlightlyNormal
And why not? Where do you think money to preserve them comes from? Controlled hunting is huge income of wildlife reservations.
WardSharlow
He could have an edict signed by the Pope and I still wouldn't care. It's just so pointless and unnecessary.
Thereisnosafeword
Says you. This dude puts a shit load of money into conservation efforts. You on the other hand, haven't ever helped a single person.
WardSharlow
It's kinda sad that you think this poacher guy is more charitable than an average stranger. The world isn't that shitty, though. Chin up.
Thereisnosafeword
How much money have you contributed towards wild life conservation? $0? Yeah. This guy put in $50,000 on this trip alone.
TheRealScotchie
Lots of times parks sell tags for "problem" animals. The cost tens of thousands of dollars and the funds usually go to support the (1/2)
MeisterMufasa
Cecil, the lion, wasn't a problem animal. He was extremely friendly to visitors of the park and was lured out of the park with bait.
TheRealScotchie
Organization. pictures like these surface and it's over looked. Maybe not the case here, idk, but people always think the worst (2/2)
Keairan
Maybe in cases when you've got a population that's approaching healthy levels like lions and leopards, not so much critically endangered.
Seven0seven
That's fine and all, but a problem black rhino? a problem bighorn? and finally hunting a tagged well known lion. I tried reading into his 1/
Matt910
If it's near the end of its life anyway, they'd rather cash it out for $50K and buy more helicopter fuel and trackers. Only makes sense
ThePsychoanalyst
The blackrhino was auctioned because couldnt reproduce anymore and wasn't letting the other male rhinos so was a good thing in that case
Seven0seven
2/ side of the story but it all looks like a bunch of 'I have a bunch load of cash so I can go trophy hunting' kind of nonsense imo.
ChristopherKostyshyn
The bighorn apparently was an auctioned off animal (apparently they auction three a year). Not that I'm for it (if he's killed, I mean meh)
Armored0Titan0
The bighorns were probably going to be culled anyway. Might as well make some money of it for the parks.
ThePsychoanalyst
thanks
Dsharppe
He also was convicted of a felony concerning a black bear he shot in Wisconsin.
tuxedobob
He says the bear gave consent.
TheyCallMeTheHiphopopotamusIgotFlowsThatGlowLikePhosphorous
If it was an illegal kills, the bear has a way of shutting that down.
TheMumbler
I fact checked this on WI court access pages. No evidence of Walter Palmer ever being convicted of a crime there...
azazyel
http://www.startribune.com/zimbabwe-2-to-appear-in-court-for-killing-cecil-the-lion/318828251/
LLCoolBeans
He pleaded guilty instead of going to trial.
SugarSmack
This guys a fucking menace! What's wrong with him??
Lefingebi
Did he serve prison time?
Dsharppe
Something about a $3000 fine, sadly.
KnottyEwok
He got 1 year probation -_-
azazyel
In some states you'd get more time for $300 of weed.
Juansenior
He also payed he way out. Probably used to it. I hate little shits like him.
Chemicalypso
That was actually another man with the same name.
Chemicalypso
"A man by the same name and age, and from the same town, illegally killed a black bear in Wisconsin several years ago, according to...(1/2)
Chemicalypso
court documents." Since I guess someone didn't believe me since I was downvoted. (2/2)
NKato
If that was a felony, that explains why he can't use guns, and is a compound bow enthusiast.
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SugarSmack
He's American, not Canadian. ( Never forget:
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myusernameiscrazy
God i hope so.... that sick Bastard
FearlessFapper
wait... shot it with what per se...
SomethingOffensive
It is legal in Zimbabwe to hunt, as long as the animal doesn't have a GPS. This one did. And it has been proven they tried to remove it.
harobed7756
To hunt in Zimbabwe you need a permit, quota, and to be inside a designated hunting area. There's no hunting allowed in national parks.
SomethingOffensive
Yea. I think the $35000 he spent got him the permits and whatnot.
LLCoolBeans
His two guides are reportedly on trial in Zimbabwe for NOT having permits.
SomethingOffensive
Hmmm. Wonder what he spent the $35000 on, then.
wiseidiot9
His "guides" lured the lion out of the park before shooting it.
harobed7756
The shooting was 0.5km outside the park, at a private farm. The farm had no quota for a lion, so hunting was not legal there.
SlightlyNormal
What exactly is so convincing with this gallery, that he likes to hunt? He could have had permits for all of those for all you know.
only90skidswillgetthis
I don't think most people with strong opinions on this issue got them entirely from this post.
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SlightlyNormal
If you're "no expert", why not educate yourself before talking trash? It's one google away: http://www.dfg.ca.gov/snbs/RecoveryHome.html (1)
ThaiMaiShu
There are actually, and the money raised helps protect others of its kind
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SlightlyNormal
animal that would have died soon anyways, and get money to save ten for one. (2)
SlightlyNormal
No, that seems extremely logical. How are you going to protect the species for free? Instead you could let them hunt some old (1)
SlightlyNormal
"CDFW also manages the remaining bighorn sheep in California, allowing hunting where populations are healthy and can tolerate some harvest."
Mec26
He didn't, and has been arrested for illegal hunting before.
SlightlyNormal
How do you know, have a link?
Mec26
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/cecil-lion-killer-walter-james-palmer-has-bear-related-felony-n400226
SlightlyNormal
The bear felony, yes. And the rest?
NorfolkBoy
Seeing a dude provide a fuck ton of money for conservation. Or is it alleged that he poached all the endangered species?
serialmatrix
If he wanted to help, he'd just give them the money, right? He did it for the thrill of killing an animal. That much is obvious.
NorfolkBoy
Handouts are not as effective as jobs. Making the wilderness a sustainable profitable economy and ecosystem is the goal.
NorfolkBoy
But I do agree, he hunted for the thrill. The "Thrill of the Kill" is a big part of what I love about hunting, if you frame it that way.
Thereisnosafeword
People are just up in arms because apparently everybody forgot that hunters exist, I guess. This community is fucking awful.
NorfolkBoy
It does seem to be like: ANGRY MOB…. ANGRY MOB. But, on the other hand, he may have a record as a poacher. I still hate the vibe of this.
Thereisnosafeword
And if he does then he brought it on himself. The backlash over this though is fucking insane. Like, the dial is at 12.
NorfolkBoy
Yeah, I'm hoping people get convicted for the death threats I'm sure he's getting and it's yet more fodder for my hypocrite collection.
Thereisnosafeword
No shit. Especially Mia Farrow for posting his goddamn address. Like... what the absolute fuck. A lion dying has 0 impact on your life ever.
Kiwi31415
Does this mean he's fair game?
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balthcat
Technically it was just a question :V
ResetButton
I know, I even joked around with the poster about it, but many responses are actual death threats.
Kereru
ayyyyyyy!
ResetButton
At the moment, 3 comments in reply to this thread are threatening damage, chemical assault, and crossbow attack.
Kiwi31415
So you're saying we need more diverse methods?
ResetButton
I'm afraid either those comments are joking and I'm bad at humor or they're not and I'm witnessing shitty violent humans get attention.
Kiwi31415
For some perspective, we are the same community that sent Sarah death threats over the removal of NSFW content.
ResetButton
And while I'm posting, we're the community that has people calling others out on death threats, just as others did for those threats.
ResetButton
For the sake of humor though, we need at least a case of TNT, a falling piano, and Looney Tunes.
Kiwi31415
No anvil?
ResetButton
Well if I mention all the potential ways, I couldn't leave anything for you to suggest, good chap.
quantumdoc
We don't need this kind of logic to get started. Be careful.
ian9outof10
In an ideal world, someone would hunt him with a tranq dart and send him to stand trial.
PleasantPeasantPheasant
In the country where he committed the crime.
ian9outof10
Obviously.
whyteraven74
There are anti-poaching patrols in Africa that might decide to shoot first and ask questions later if that's what you're wondering.
ResetButton
Good reason for that. My neighbor served and told a story about a poacher lighting the grassland on fire to cover their escape.
ResetButton
Animals harmed, native environment destroyed, resources to contain the fire weren't cheap...
BiggRosie
I know things about his penis he didn't think these pictures would tell me.
simplyunsympathetic
Why would you want to know what size another mans penis is?
BiggRosie
I make it my business to know as many men's penis sizes as I can.
simplyunsympathetic
I think i saw your name on a watchdogs list....
Faylom
Can we drop this trope? As a man with a tiny penis, I am annoyed to be lumped in with assholes all the time
LiquidMilk
Anal is great though
chicktracy
It only gets hard when he kills endangered animals?
blitherypoop
It's an innie.
IMakeLotsOfReferencesAndRemakes
This comment made me lose my shit. Thank you very much *reads name* FUCK *losing it again*
DownvoteFairiesWearBoots
Fuckin' microscopic.
missJupiler
katokoch
Why do you think resorting to sexism like that is okay here? Whether you respect him or not, that's lame.
BiggRosie
You're lame.
PatrickPunchhard
I think we also know more about the size of katokoch's penis than he intended.
katokoch
http://media.giphy.com/media/I4Jmrcjnr8Zfq/giphy.gif
Ewido
I agree it is really lame.
Gornsympathizer
What color Hummer do you think he drives?
Hybris51129
Doesn't matter its a 5 cylinder H3 anyway.
DesiredUsernameWasTaken
Fucking yellow.
triggrhaapi
Fun Fact: that's the official GM name for that color. Source:
Ocolura
I giggled too Fucking hard at this.
goodguyC
Hahaha, yes! http://media.giphy.com/media/vQ9JbgIWATcTS/giphy.gif
NOINOON
Elk is not endangered and they actually need to be hunted since we have killed a lot of the predators that hunt them naturally. Other than>>
UsChickens
https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6350121728/h5B7F54F4/
Armored0Titan0
Oh fuck off with your uneducated bullshit.
UsChickens
Cry some more.
Lorsted
Just some biology fact: Natural selection states that predators will re-produce more frequently if their prey is plenty. So this is good
GearHead96
They're like cattle in Colorado.
DontClickThisISwearItsForYourOwnGood
Sometimes , some African governments allow people to pay to come hunt the older rhinos who can no longer reproduce, this allows them to use
Dsharppe
Lion isn't endangered either. Just 'threatened' according to US law.
AgamemnonsMemes
True but its illegal to kill them unless you lure them off the reserve so you can shoot them with an arrow
Mythmatic
Cause we have so many wild lions
mixam
Why would US law have a saying in this? It's not like there's any lions in the US
Dsharppe
A couple people have asked that and I have no idea. I am not sure why and I am not from the USA. I just read that in one of the articles.
Rezol
Lions are even bred to be hunted by tourists. Still, luring one out of its protection is an ass move.
thisplaceisnotforyou
Well since the lion lived in Zimbawe, US law is irrelephant
NOINOON
Extradition treaty considers legislation of both countries, so US law is relephant. See my replies to Dsharppe below.
Dsharppe
They would likely consider extradition though, if it was an endangered animal. Sadly, that won't happen now. :-(
NOINOON
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_extradition_treaties
NOINOON
Good read: http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/07/28/walter_palmer_alleged_lion_killer_he_can_be_tried_in_the_u_s_or_extradited.html
Dsharppe
Very interesting. Thanks!
NOINOON
So if the punishment would be more than one year in prison in Zimbabwe and USA, he would be extradited.
GivePuddingToYourEnemies
That's why OP wrote 'Killing an Elk' and not 'Killing an endangered elk' like for the others above...
Cthulhukitten
Yea, but elk hunting is what normal people do.
CindyWho4
Maybe it's a regional thing. I think killing elk sucks. But they're not common here at all lol.
CindyWho4
And no, I'm not against hunting in general.
vodoocc
Then why make an opinion without knowing much? My family has never bought meat,, sustained ourselves entirely on elk meat that we hunted.
CindyWho4
I wasn't judging people who hunt elk. I was only saying that, for me, it's kind of surprising/sad that people do because I've seen, like, 2.
CindyWho4
My point was that I could see how someone might think that picture belongs here, depending on where they live, is all.
Killertortilla
It's like when people get pissed about kangaroo deaths here in australia, they're a pest not endangered like koalas.
HypoMix
Koalas are regionally threatened, not endangered, they are listed as Least concern ie: common.
SkyHSmith
or seals in Canada. In some places they're so concentrated they starve each other getting food.
TestudinesMihiPlacet
What about dropbears?
Killertortilla
Doing just fine http://australianmuseum.net.au/drop-bear
o11c
Storytime: my sister just went to visit our cousins in Australia. They still remember when she was just a kid and was too kindhearted (1/2)
o11c
to shoot anything, so they were surprised when this time she wanted to go out and shoot a kangaroo. She took the shot but failed, but (2/3)
o11c
later when they were teasing her she managed to shoot a galah out of a tree. (3/3)
NotSoJadedJade
Do people eat galah? [I had to google what is was]
FullPlateHero
Right. People's problem with this should not be that he hunts, but that those animals are endangered.
NOINOON
The problem is not that he hunts. The problem is that he hunts solely for the joy of killing. That is, in my eyes, sick and perverted.
Thereisnosafeword
Anything he has hunted that was endangered was done via permit. As in legally. So shut the fuck up with your ignorance.
FullPlateHero
3, my point was that we shouldn't use this to blame all hunters, but to bring light to the issue of poaching.
FullPlateHero
Last, this post is 3 freaking days old. Wtf?
Thereisnosafeword
3 days, whoa, really? Holy shit. Wow. I didn't know the internet was still a thing 3 days ago!!!!!!!!!!
FullPlateHero
Calm down there, bud. Number 1, he may have had a permit, but the lion he killed was not legal game. 2, I don't really care what he does.
Thereisnosafeword
There is no evidence proving that he knew he was killing a protected lion. Until they prove it, people need to fucking relax on this guy.
FullPlateHero
Man, you are preaching to the choir. I never said he knew it was protected. Calm down.
sasukate
Welp I got down voted. My point is that I don't believe in hunting for sport, even if the animal is overpopulated. At least eat it.
Thereisnosafeword
Nobody cares what you think. The world is doing just fine without considering your opinion.
sasukate
Same to you bro
bigguywhokills
If a herd gets too large, and the land can only support 50% of them, during winter, closer to 80% of the herd will die.
sasukate
This is good to know. :) Thank you. <3
chicmagnetwampa1
I went on a feral hog "population control" hunt recently. We gave all of the meat we couldn't eat to local food banks.
sasukate
That's really sweet. :)
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TheMythicalJackalope
my father in law hunts for fun but we still eat everything he hunts, cuz hey! why not get some noms out of the money that you payed (1/2)
TheMythicalJackalope
(2/2) for the tag and the time you spent freezing your ass off *shrug*
sasukate
That's what I hate. :(
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sasukate
Seems so...
NOINOON
Don't worry. All the elks that are hunted get eaten.
sasukate
Well, most of them.
FlatPlutoSociety
I sure hope so. Have you ever had elk? It's glorious.
TheMythicalJackalope
agreed. if it is going to be killed why not free elk steaks..... aaaaaand now i am drooling.....
ssaberhagen
I live south of one of the biggest herds of elk in the US and because there aren't as many natural predators anymore they are over run 1/2
sasukate
Oooh, that makes sense. Thank you :)
ssaberhagen
and killing entire areas because they have over a million and the hunters take the meat that's usable and leave the rest for the scavengers
ssaberhagen
and leaving the rest is encouraged to help the food chain out, just like a natural predator would (3/3 sorry got carried away)
supraman2turbo
Yeah I was fine the the elk the rest was wth man. At least kill them with your bare hands, no one will bitch then, they'll be too afraid
Armored0Titan0
Well most of these were probably animals selected for culling anyway, due to being to old to breed for an exorbitant amount of money that
Armored0Titan0
goes to fund further conservation efforts.
DarthT15
What
DarthT15
What if I took a bear on with a sword, would that work too?
ghsdkgb
With a swha?
PastaIsLife
Probably
AngelDick
Lions are not technically endangered either... on the way to it, but not endangered yet. HOWEVER. He was a protected lion....
Clarkgur
They're freakin delicious
f16crewchief
Yes they are.
NOINOON
And dear lord they're COMING RIGHT AT US!
sparkledick
I've got some loin in the freezer that I might try to sous vide this weekend. And heres an elk burger I made:
TaintedGENE
it a good thing this wasnt top comment, there may have been some..... confusion LOL
sailordani
So good!!
cklepper
My brother bagged an elk last year and gave me some bacon burger he made with it. Greatest thing I've ever eaten.
Thisisahugemistake
Dat back strap though. ooh weee !!
dvaunr
Seriously, last time I was in Colorado, it got to be annoying how many I saw.
scaleforbanana
At that point, people are just pissy that people are killing "cute little defenseless animals"
Thereisnosafeword
Exactly. All of those "I care more about the animals than humans," fuckfaces need to be fired out of a cannon and into the sun.
shigetsu
yea thats kinda what i was thinking... fuck everything but the elk
NOINOON
>>that... fuck this guy particularly.
mushutron
Agreed
ThatJerkYouKnow
Lol yeah I was kind of like WTF elk?? I've eaten elk let's not get out of hand here.
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Canadiandustbin
Why is this popular but everyone gets mad at the seal hunt that has been happening for 1000s of years?
imnicetopeopleontheinternet
The Bighorn sheep hunt is auctioned off to raise money to protect the rest of the population. I think they allow 3 per year to be hunted.
michaelb22
Doubt that was the situation here though.
imnottryingtobesarcastic
Most likely would be. Especially if he tried to get the ram mounted. I don't like the guy either but the sheep tag was probably legit.
EarendilTheBlessed
Couldn't agree more particularly in places like Colorado they are over populated but yeah the rest this guy can suck a big dick in prision.
BrickBatGreenHat
So we murdered a bunch of predators, And the solution is "also murder their prey" and not "help the predator population recover"? What?
flamingflamingo
There's no magical way to "help the predator population recover" quickly. We ARE helping them, but it's a slow going process. Meanwhile 1/2
flamingflamingo
we can't just let the unchecked elk population devastate the environment beyond repair while the wolves gradually repopulate
Zombiedrd
Not to mention the wolf populations can't be nearly as large as they once were due to urban sprawl. Culling will always be required.
NOINOON
You go girl with your easy answers. How about "habitat destroyed by urban sprawl?" Wolves don't like to live as near humans as elks do.
DontClickThisISwearItsForYourOwnGood
The money to put toward conservation efforts and allows a controlled environment for people to hunt
DieStabby
If the money goes to the retirement home, should I be allowed to Running-Man all the elderly folks there? That is the 'logic' this is using.
Zombiedrd
Same logic, but do you see wealthy people giving these sums to protect? The only wealthy who pay, want to hunt.
Thereisnosafeword
No. You're fucking stupid. Big game hunters put a shit load of money towards conservation. You don't even know what you're talking about.
DieStabby
My point is you are saying it's okay to kill old people because the people killing them donate huge sums of money toward the retirement home
DieStabby
that they wouldn't donate otherwise, therefore the end justifies the means. Which is wrong.
46853
Hunting overpopulated species makes sense, but hunting critically endangered ones doesn't at all
Armored0Titan0
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Armored0Titan0
money goes to help fund further conservation efforts.
Thellluminati
Money goes to help protect the rest.
Thereisnosafeword
Because you don't understand how conservation works and just want to throw your stupid opinion out there like everybody else on Imgur.
TheMexicanLemon
Didn't he night hunt that elk? Isn't that illegal?
beepbeepribbyribby
I thought you couldn't hunt at night cause of their eyes? What a douche
LiftedF150
He probably didn't hunt it at night lmao, it was probably just found at night. Source: Active Hunter
rquintessential
Yes! My husband hunts Elk and we are still eating his kill from over a year ago. We don't buy any meat besides chicken!
sasukate
I don't like this reasoning, tbh. Never have. People are overpopulated too and people destroy everything. Elk don't, really.
Morebunnies
It's a complicated issue. I live in MT so I see it firsthand. Elk, Bison; they NEED to be hunted down but I can see the other side too.
AloofCylon
Yeah- Kansas and deer. The deer run onto the airport runways or get hit by cars.
NOINOON
Reasoning is that excess elk population upsets the balance of the ecosystem. They don't destroy everything because we try to fix the >>
NOINOON
>> fuck up we made by killing the wolves and the bears.
NOINOON
I.e. we are currently actively preventing them from destroying everything.
sasukate
I get it but idk I just feel bad... Like it's not fair. Idk? It's 6am I'm not making sense, I'm sorry
Zombiedrd
Why do you feel bad, I am generally curious? All animals kill other animals. We fucked up by destroying predators, it has to be done.
sasukate
Just feel like people do more harm than good to basically everything. AKA no faith in humanity.
AgentTempest
We are doing our best to kill as many humans as 'humanly' possible, don't worry.
Bearto
What a cunt.
mantha0n3
Total shit cunt.
SuperemeLeaderDonkeyKong
Simplest way to put it
thegowzer
Language! I think it's F**king c**t
AtomicZombie
Calling them cunts it's an insult to all cunts!
Ellabellasmella
Wooo that's what matters who with desensy, would do that That's law breaking, killing indanged
BammiebamMars
I want to call him a super cunt but I doubt words can describe his actions..
Daughtersarethebest
He is such a F#$k@ng cunt
ButterfaceTaintClown
Nice
Ruhig
http://conservationmagazine.org/2014/01/can-trophy-hunting-reconciled-conservation/
terryr
Some say all dentists are sadists.
ian9outof10
Really, this is the only comment needed. I sort of wish it was the only thing on this page.
jpww
We should downvote every other comment to hell (including this one)
ButterfaceTaintClown
Could've shortened it to just CUNT. But under the circumstances, I'll allow the extravagance.
hermionejeangrangerweasley
You should sing the petition - Justice for Cecil. http://www.thepetitionsite.com/821/738/351/demand-justice-for-cecil-the-lion-in-zimbambwe/
jollygingergibberishjunkie
Cunts to soft a word for a piece of shit like him but i dont think theres a worse way to describe him
TheBiggestCuntOnImgur
He puts me to shame.
ButterfaceTaintClown
Thank God he's not on imgur.
arcanepineapple
I couldn't have said it better.
spectator729
just like everyone else who hunts for trophies or their own entertainment.
twomarks
This is the perfect response.
thebesteverdeathmetalbandoutofDenton
fuck these guys
Sauroctonus
I disagree. Cunts are useful.
sim101
That is word for word exactly what I was going to write before I saw your comment.
BardicLasher
Can someone who is not a vegetarian please explain to me why we're all up in arms about this guy killing some animals? I don't get it.
Mec26
Endangered animals, in cruel ways, sometimes illegally.
BardicLasher
Is bowhunting considered cruel? Because I thought it was the standard method of hunting.
Mec26
Bow is fine. He stunned it with a spotlight at night, then shot it, didn't kill it, and his guides didn't track it down for over
BardicLasher
Shot and failed to kill was an accident, though. It's not like he was trying to let it bleed out. It got away.
Mec26
40 hours to finally end it with a gun. So it was more the fact that it was wounded for almost two days and they didn't make it fast.
nofearbioishere
Sexual harassement of a worker and settled out of court for $127,500 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3179047/
hermionejeangrangerweasley
You should sing the petition - Justice for Cecil. http://www.thepetitionsite.com/821/738/351/demand-justice-for-cecil-the-lion-in-zimbambwe/
MichaeIJCaboose
He's a fucking bastard.
HelloJenBunny
This man is only hunting to feed his ego, not his body.
memphisfan92
Man is the cruelest animal.
dieagojames
Apparently he regrets killing Cecil. Lying piece of shit cunt fuck wanker asshole. Fucking leopards man. Not cool. I'm so mad.
Daughtersarethebest
He is claiming to not know it was an illegal hunt. Such a liar.
bluetankmush
I call dingo on his regret. He should be skinned and beheaded.
allthenamesaregone
He regrets the publicity and that his practise will suffer. I doubt he regrets the act since he has killed plenty before without regretting.
dieagojames
Oh for sure. Totally agree.
bluetankmush
Yes, so much yes.
LarfleezePlz
Did he regret before or after following it for 40 hours? Check out his yelp page this guy is gonna have to practice dentistry in Guam
Armored0Titan0
... do you think he made it last that long on purpose or something?
hermionejeangrangerweasley
You should sing the petition - Justice for Cecil. http://www.thepetitionsite.com/821/738/351/demand-justice-for-cecil-the-lion-in-zimbambwe/
getmepicturesofspiderman
I spent a day in a rhino sanctuary in Kenya and couldn't find a single one. That's how rare they are. He finds one and kills it. The shit.
Armored0Titan0
It's probably not the same kind of rhino.
getmepicturesofspiderman
That's a white Rhino, which is indeed one of the two species you might find in Kenya. So yes, I'm afraid it is the same kind.
SlightlyNormal
Legal hunting of specific animals, even if endangered, is a big part of income for wildlife preservations. This gallery tells nothing.
ImOnlyHereForTheDrinks
Well, it tells you something but it's so heavily skewed that its difficult to take seriously if you apply correct context.
ian9outof10
Amazing how quickly we accept that to fund something we have to kill a bit of it. Why not just work out how to look after it
SlightlyNormal
Because money don't appear outta thin air.
fitbear
but your comment tells us a huge amount about you
SlightlyNormal
Yeah, such as me being full of common sense.
fitbear
Killing animals should NOT be a source of income in the first place, your common sense is biased from the facts of your own interests.
SlightlyNormal
My common sense if based on how the reality is. Good luck getting enough finding for preservation without trophy hunting.
quantumdoc
Finally a correct perspecive.
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SlightlyNormal
Quit spamming. That retarded petition can fuck right off. What are they going to finance protection of endangered animals with, magic?
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canadianpancakes
we should call and ask if they have discounts for battle toads
hermionejeangrangerweasley
You should sing the petition - Justice for Cecil. http://www.thepetitionsite.com/821/738/351/demand-justice-for-cecil-the-lion-in-zimbambwe/
NOINOON
Imma gon' just leave this here: http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?14961426731
HeraldOfTheBadger
OH GOOD, So he gave $5000 toward Romeny. I am SHOCKED.
NOINOON
That's not the only information contained in the document. But you can pick the ones you think are relevant. You have strong game.
HeraldOfTheBadger
Nono, I read it all. But being a large donor for a republican candidate while also shooting living things is the most amusing part to me.
fartalert
I dont understand your joke
BiggRosie
I think it's that the dentist pledged to the Mitt Romney campaign.
Armored0Titan0
Who the fuck cares?
fartalert
TL;DR so thank you
twentysomething
I think what this mad did was deplorable. But these comments make be kind of queasy. It's not just his life that's going to be destroyed...
toblat
To be fair, he destroyed life. For sport.
twentysomething
Sure. But the employees at his dental office didn't.
HeraldOfTheBadger
As a dental assistant, we mostly work for several offices at once. This will destroy exactly one life. The rest of us will be fine.
HeraldOfTheBadger
We are also extremely employable. Any assistant with a good xray license starts at $20/hr minimum (in NJ). Experienced receptionists r $15/h
Kaliff
Why!?!? Seriously!? Why the fuck does he feel the need to do this?
mthrndr01
He's not clever enough to get away with being a serial killer, so he became rich enough to get opportunities to kill endangered species.
ian9outof10
Because he's rich, realised money isn't enough and craves power.
ieatrawcookiedough
He's compensating for having a micropenis.
somecallmetimmmmkay
First guess is it started when he was young, small animals, then during puberty his impotence made him go after bigger prey.a dickless SOB1/
SlightlyNormal
Because it's an engaging sport, and if done legally provides money to protect ten times the amount of animals he kills.
ThaiMaiShu
You pretty much hit it on the head
Ihavewaytoomanyfavoritestosort
Why were you downvoted? Because you're right?
Kaliff
But... that's obviously not why he's doing it... You're just stating a fact
SlightlyNormal
What's so obvious about it not being an engaging sport for him?
Kaliff
...not the obvious part.
SlightlyNormal
Exactly my point, can't really judge him from a gallery, but can't rule out sport either.
hummingbird
He bought the permit to shoot the rhino from the Namibia government for a low price of $350,000. People should be angry at them too.
SlightlyNormal
"Low price" of one third of a million? The fuck. That's a shitloads of money.
wafflesnpancakes
Trying (and failing) to make a kill-shot on a reserve lion, who are known for being used to people and quite lazy, hardly sounds engaging.
kaynewesticle
Half of you people are crazy for wanting to kill him.
chipmunkshavenuts
Are the other half sane for wanting to kill him?
jayleajo
Well if I pay somebody $50k to tell me it's legal, all I have to do is say sorry after right? I can't be held responsible! :-o
Thereisnosafeword
He paid for a permit. He just fucked up bad and killed the wrong lion.
kaynewesticle
I think him apologizing looks worse. He knew what he was doing
FionnMacCumhaill
Not that I think killing the guy is a good idea, but he obviously has no respect for the value of life. Hunting deer would be one thing...
Thereisnosafeword
What fucking difference does it make? A kill is a kill, regardless the animal. He's a fucking hunter. Grow up.
iyamgurting
As a hunter, hunting is hunting.. This jackass is killing things that are illegal to kill for good reason.
FionnMacCumhaill
Well, there's hunting and then there's poaching, but ppl are saying he had permits for the kills, so I don't know.
DonnaNobleHasLeftTheLibrary
Apparently he had permits. I don't have an issue with hunting if you're actually going to use the animal's meat, fur, etc. (1/2)
DonnaNobleHasLeftTheLibrary
But I think hunting for sport is gross. If you're just doing it to say you've done it, then I have an issue with it. (2/2)
iyamgurting
its pretty clear he uses the animal for his ego.
Armored0Titan0
And he paid an exorbitant amount of money for it that is going to help its species recover.
DonnaNobleHasLeftTheLibrary
Which is gross, but if he did it legally, there's no need for the entire Internet to freak out on him and say he should be killed.
thisplaceisnotforyou
Devil's advocate: Why should people respect the life of someone who doesn't respect life? He left the carcass to rot and didn't use it.
Thereisnosafeword
You're conflating him hunting with him not respecting life. Those two concepts are very far apart.
thisplaceisnotforyou
Also, killing animals just to watch them die or keep trophies is how most sociopaths start out. Ask Dahmer and others.
Thereisnosafeword
Pretty sure Dahmer wasn't a big game hunter so no, that's not how it works.
thisplaceisnotforyou
Not really, he just took a head for trophy and didn't use anything. When I hunt I eat it. This asshole just wanted to watch something die.
kaynewesticle
Humans have more worth than animals
thisplaceisnotforyou
Why is that? What proof do you have?
kaynewesticle
Humans are a higher being. Ask Darwin
thisplaceisnotforyou
Not higher, just sentient. We know right from wrong and have an obligation to do right. Hunting for food ok, but killing for dick size not.
VersiDiagobunn
I think that's a white Rhino. But you did correctly identify him as a cunt.
JT1984
I mean, yes, it's a white rhino, but still, who the fuck kills a goddamn rhino? Whites are still crazy endangered.
Armored0Titan0
Not the kind in the picture, no.
canadianmaplesizzurp
It's definitely a white rhino
hotblueice
Hey people are trying to hate here.
MornieAlantie
Wikipedia tells me that a wider mouth is a white rhino. So if Wikipedia is correct, then so are you it would seem.
bonhomous
Didn't realize you could kill a Rhino with a bow and arrow.
happykitten
If it was a black rhino i would just go poison his coffee. Black rhinos are so fucking close to extinction; it's the saddest thing i know.
Thereisnosafeword
You wouldn't do anything because you're a fucking nobody. Sit down, and shut up.
46853
Aren't they already extinct?
canadianmaplesizzurp
Didn't black rhinos go extinct in 2011?
happykitten
There are a bunch of different subspecies. While the southern black rhino, the north-eastern black rhino, the uganda black rhino and (1/3)
happykitten
western black rhino are extinct, the chobe black rhino (one specimen), eastern black rhino, south central black rhino and south (2/3)
happykitten
western black rhino are still "only" critically endangered. I like to rant about that.
slashjunky
Western Black Rhino, and in the wild. I know two black rhinos in captivity, there are about 5,000 left in the wild.
canadianmaplesizzurp
http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/10/world/africa/rhino-extinct-species-report/
canadianmaplesizzurp
http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/10/world/africa/rhino-extinct-species-report/
slashjunky
Came here to say that. The wideness of the lip gives him away. White rhinos are still insanely endangered, not as much as black but still.
Armored0Titan0
Well, one breed of them is, but that's not the one in the picture.
GiddyGibbon
But they're actually not endangerd at all. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_rhinoceros
IneedtochangemyusernameandIguessthiswillhavetodo
if people of the world cared about poverty and injustice of humans a fraction of how much they're upset about this, we'd get shit done. smh
TacoPlz
Thank you. ! You pretty much summed up how I feel.
Boshika
It's not right, but I think its bc we're all really desensitized to human violence. I still think they need to be put on trial. So sad. :-(
IneedtochangemyusernameandIguessthiswillhavetodo
sure it's sad, but many places around the world offer legal permits for big game hunting like this. the hate here is so strong.
BelgianGuy
They are 9 billions humans but only 30.000 lions left. Too many humans and not enough lions. That's why I care when a lion is killed.
IneedtochangemyusernameandIguessthiswillhavetodo
yes but there are legal permits to hunt big game like this.
Shannerwren
Appeal to bigger problems is a fallacy. You can care about more than one thing and 1 does not negate the other.
IneedtochangemyusernameandIguessthiswillhavetodo
i'm not negating it, but if it's a legal sport to hunt big game like this, let's not offhandedly demonize the guy.
IkariGendo
Also plenty of people left, people are pissed because here almost entire species are gone cause of our stupidity. As cruel as it sounds.
quantumdoc
My God! Finally someone speaks logic. I still can't believe the attention and outrage this gets when there are still starving PEOPLE.
AngelDick
I LIKE YOU. LETS BE FRIENDS.
equinoxiq
because people who are poor have no one to blame but themselves, or so they'll have you believe
Ruhig
But animals are innocent creatures made of snuggles and rainbows who would just prance and frolic all day were it not for evil, evil humans
balthcat
Pretty sure no one in here's pretending lions aren't predators.
Ruhig
Yet people are making this guy into some sort of psychopathic monster for killing an animal.
balthcat
The animal can be a powerful predator AND the man can be a scuzzbucket. The fact it's a predator doesn't make the death more OK.
Ruhig
If you drive a car or eat meat, you're probably about as bad as this guy.
Ruhig
I object to the sloppy method and the illegitimacy of the hunt, but nothing else really. Animals are killed by people constantly.