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AngryGraphicDesigner
I would flat-out shocked if it came from someone at FOX.
IalwaysknewOPwasafaggot
It's so nice to post things like this, but being an abused man myself, the police/government don't see it that way. They ignored my cries.
angrybeards
I worked at Halloween horror nights. My backside and genitals were grabbed every night I worked. All times were middle age women.
ThisJoe
As a man, I've been groped at work. HR laughed it off.
SwedishRationalist
WTF? What shitty HR.
BreadyStinellis
You need to sue. You'd win.
ThisJoe
Not in this shitty 3rd world country.
cmdshift3
That's because it's not a men/women thing, it's an ASSHOLE thing.
wilcox1232
as a man that has been raped 3 times twice by men once by a woman this is nice to see. I never know where i belong in these talks
minipancho94
according the the vocal ones at least, in the dumpster outside. same shit happens with domestic abuse too. just keep trying.
CilantroGirl
I lost my virginity because my girlfriend at the time forced me into it. I don't have healthy coping mechanisms.
doctorbees
I've not seen a single person say that men can't also be victims of sexual assault.
Yamadronis
I have. It sucked.
doctorbees
I'm sorry you experienced that. I should have qualified my statement with context re: Harvey Weinstein.
Livlalala
As a lifelong feminist: being a dickhead predatory pervert knows no specific gender.
quattroformaggix4
And yet people don't get this at all...somehow...... it's SOOO damn easy, we teach infants this. Society can be blah at times. Feminist Hi5!
Sparkes99
I go to a trade school but I do a course where I can literally get in to surveying, site management or estimating. (1/?)
Sparkes99
I can pretty get in to any job that partners the actual trades. People in my class think they are above the trades. (2/?)
Sparkes99
But in any case trades people are the people who everyone needs. So there is no point shitting on someone who can build your house
FIDLAR
Ooookay?
khaleesimotherofkittycats
There's a difference. Most men are the assaulters /= men cannot and are not assaulted. People are biased to think otherwise.
Arsikere
did you mean to do a strikethough there?
khaleesimotherofkittycats
Swedish is correct!
SwedishRationalist
/= is probably the same as != which means "not equal", so yeah.
Ifyourenotfirstyourelast
I see what you’re saying. Just because many assaults are performed by men, doesn’t mean that men can’t also be victims of assault.
Ifyourenotfirstyourelast
The equal sign was confusing, but it was supposed to be crossed out, meaning “does not equal”
Frappo
Remember, The number of assaults against men is drastically underreported. We're working with incomplete data here.
khaleesimotherofkittycats
For sure! As are many against women not reported. Therefore we can only rely on estimates, unfortunately :(
akillha
I was wearing a kilt once as fancy dress thing was out later in town and got corned by a hens party that harassing me and shouting at me1/2
akillha
To show them my cock I’m a 6ft 6 man and I felt like I had been assaulted
maplemonster
Gender equality= the realization that both men and women can be shitbags and owning up to that fact!
LadyxEvil
As a woman, I get groped by other women far more than men, they don't seem to think it's an issue and seem shocked that I'm equally as angry
4shizzlemynizzle
#metoo
LennyBoii
Donkeymong
Got arrested last year cause some drunk idiot kept grabbing my junk like the 3rd time i pushed her. When the policeman asked why i 1/
Donkeymong
Pushed her i told him and he said "so what shes a woman" i shit you not, this cop genuinely sided with her. I spent 3 hours in a cell 2/
Donkeymong
Before i was released with no charge and no apology.3.
OhNoItsTheDramaLlama
That's fucking bull shit! I'm sorry that happened to you!
Donkeymong
Eh its cool i wouldn't even remember the woman touchin me up if it wasn't for getting arrested. Thank fuck the bar had cctv and good doorman
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
Welcome to most guys opinion on men being the victim of sex crimes. "Hey she ain't to bad looking what's the issue?"
Donkeymong
Was more that they just believed her over me. You are right though if it was the other way round it would have been taken way more seriously
Donkeymong
But then its not really the same, i wasn't like in danger or afraid it was more annoying. So im not sure its really a fair comparison.
minipancho94
should that shit ever happen again. get his badge number and gather any witness and hand that shit to a lawyer, they'll do it for free.
Donkeymong
To be fair to him what happened wasn't clear and the woman was denying it. Once the officers who took wit statements got back to the 1/
Donkeymong
Station i was released. But of course its still fucked up that he just believed a drunk woman over a sober man. 2.
ChristaE
How about just not assualting anyone??
PonehGrrl
It makes me so angry that women got pissed when men got on board for the me too campaign. Terry Crewes spoke up before the campaign.
hoppipollas
Might be sheltered or oblivious but never heard anyone argue that men couldn't be assaulted.by men or women.maybe less support to speak out?
treadwords
Feminists have certainly tried to downplay any abuse against men for quite some time.
quattroformaggix4
There is next to no wide spread support for any victim to speak out. Some dolts think if the equipment works, it ain't rape. Same with women
quattroformaggix4
That foolish belief a woman can only have sex physically or get pregnant if she desires it? Like bodies have an alarm code for rape. Idiots.
HappyEngineer
I think when people say "There's a huge problem with male-on-female sexual assault" others hear "..and it's the only problem that matters".
BreadyStinellis
To be fair, some people ARE saying it's the only problem that matters. Ive seen many "men have it worse" competitions on imgur.
HappyEngineer
It's like "black lives matter". People say it meaning "matter TOO", but others interpret it as "matter MORE".
quattroformaggix4
Surely no one thinks BLM = black lives matter more? It means BLM despite the unacceptable treatment that's evidenced? Right?
paramediccody
Well I was hoping someone would grope me eventually. Something. Anything. Human contact. Someone date me. ***shotguns Capri sun**
LimeJ
Just keep making jokes about harassment, that'll help. You are part of the problem.
XenuPintrestWarrior
Same
RavensX1X
You say that... Until the person ends up having three teeth and a 84 inch waistline, and what can only be explained as a dead rat for hair..
TrijezniMujo
Some of us are so starved for human contact that we'd probably accept that.
WhiteNateDogg
True, when I get groped I'm only upset if they're ugly...or dudes.
Datsinginguy
Yeah that would be terrible, except I have 3 teeth, an 84 inch waist and a dead rat on my head... oh dear god I'm horrible!!! ????
SelfPleasureRobot
So I'm getting an upgrade from my current spouse? Niiiice.
LennyBoii
VigorousButtstuff
The saddest part of all of this is that those claiming everyone should "Defend women" are perpetuating the Damsel trope.
SwedishRationalist
I would say it's more ironic than sad, but yeah.
VigorousButtstuff
They are themselves contributing to greater sexism.
BreadyStinellis
Thank you. I saw men apologizing for being dudes on #metoo posts. Um... that's not what anyone is asking you to do, you don't need to
BreadyStinellis
Apologize for being a man. Ever. Also, "promising to protect" us in the future is condescending as fuck. All of that is the opposite of
BreadyStinellis
Feminism.
VigorousButtstuff
Thank you for being pretty much the only feminist I've seen lately who speaks rationally.
zentrandi
Thank you. I have been there and could not #metoo bc I'm a man and would face backlash.
MerlinSacrebleu
i'm in the same boat :(
PenicilliumCamemberti
You can. Good way to clean your friends of stupid people.
TrijezniMujo
And of course get fired from your job.
PenicilliumCamemberti
whaaat? What kind of middle age country do you live in?
TrijezniMujo
I live in a rural area. Word spreads like wildfire. Nobody wants to be associated with that.
PenicilliumCamemberti
US? You guys are really fucked up, sorry about the language. Let's do our best to change peoples minds. I get you don't want to speak out.
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quattroformaggix4
And that is entirely reasonable.
SwedishRationalist
That's depressing. I've seen MANY men say #metoo, but mostly in closed facebook groups...
ThePerfectCupofTea
I saw plenty of male 'me too's and most of the reposts I observed were changed to 'people' not only because toxic masculinity punishes 1/2
ThePerfectCupofTea
males that are assaulted, but also because there are plenty of men that have been female. Everyone responded supportively to those posts.2/2
TheOtherOneWithTheHair
Fuck off with this "toxic masculinity" BS, women and male feminists would be the first to attack men who use the tag, nobody else.
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TheOtherOneWithTheHair
I'm not the one dismissing male victims, that'd be the people who protest the opening of male shelters because of their feminist ideology.
ThePerfectCupofTea
I don't think you understand what toxic masculinity is an that it's separate from general masculine traits.
TheOtherOneWithTheHair
I don't think you understand that the reason I wholeheartedly disagree with it, is precisely because I understand exactly what it is.
TheOtherOneWithTheHair
Let me pose you this question, where is the concept of "toxic femininity" in feminism? It's almost as if they don't want to admit it exists.
Livlalala
You totally can. 30% of people are http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/18/300000-men-join-metoo-sexual-assault-hashtag/
zentrandi
My feed is too full of militant fems, that I don't like to russle up. I also don't post polarizing posts. I'm pretty benign online.
Livlalala
and those are just the ones brave enough to speak out.
rissel
A few of my male friends posted #metoo, it's weird that people think it's only for women. If anything it's more powerful if men participate.
lordsmish
It seems to be just women who think it's for women this is just from the comments i have seen though.
rissel
It's too bad, sexual assault under men is such a taboo. It could really help men have empathy, we're all in this together.
rissel
Kind of sad to see this is becoming a men vs women thing. It's a scumbags vs not scumbags thing!
quattroformaggix4
Divided we fall. Together we stand. It's no accident there is division
Higge
I know people (men) that have been laughed out of rape victim support groups. Shit sucks all across the board.
NobleSavant
I don't believe you.
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
Men absolutely get laughed at when they say they were raped, doubly so if it's a woman who did it. "At least you got laid"
NobleSavant
They do, and it's vile and repulsive. I don't believe that a rape victim support group laughed out a man. Sounds sensationalized to me.
Ezekiel117
that is fucking disgusting, i have no words
Jburli24
You had fucking disgusting, entirely the correct words
throwawayconfessioning
Read my only post and the comments.
whitewater0034
This cunt right here...https://imgur.com/user/hamstyle/index/newest
reyla
I saw that in usersub before there were the stupid comments on it. I'm sorry you're in that incredibly awkward situation, family can suck.
teenageasshat
why do you browse on a throwaway?
throwawayconfessioning
it's still logged in from my desktop
squip
Stuff like this is why there is an MRA movement, and it’s almost universally reviled as misogynist. The illusion is men have all the power.
Higge
If somebody like Terry Crews can get sexually assaulted, it surely isn't about power or lack thereof.
lordcirth
Well, the movement did sadly get taken over by misogynists, which is a shame because it was needed.
EarlGreyOrDeath
It's universally reviled as misogynistic because a large chuck of those who identify as MRA are.
squip
Source for this claim?
EarlGreyOrDeath
Literally any MRA forum.
squip
Same for any feminist forum. You see the worst because you see people lashing out. Difference is, mainstream treats them differently.
dobbythehouseelf
If they try to go to marches for rape awareness, often they'll get thrown out because men "can't get raped."
MateriaCaelestis
This is the other side of the same coin that feminism is trying to combat. Macho culture is bad for everyone who is not on top.
itseasierbeingaslut
As a woman who's a victim of sexual assault, the idea that some stuck up bitches think men are not able to be victimised too is absurd.
quattroformaggix4
PREACH. Some people have no clue about sexual assault.
quattroformaggix4
Also, it IS easier being a slut!
Amarantamin
Be honest with us now; did you rape some men to get back at them?
SilentStorm712
What the fuck? Probably shouldn't joke about this stuff to a sexual assault victim... no sane human would use 'rape' as revenge
BreadyStinellis
Are there people who honestly think this?
ItsDandySpaceDandy
+1 for the username.
Dyslexicbirch
i know of a brother and sister that were both sexualy abused
Mcswigginsbar
Seeing the comments on some Facebook posts made me sick. We aren’t even allowed in the convo because it’s “our fault”.
bekind2joeblake
I feel like it’s men who usually perpetuate this myth. Look at the comments of any story about a female teacher molesting a male student
DirtRockets
People fall into two broad categories when it comes to this: Those who see women get sexually assaulted and feel solidarity with women,
DirtRockets
and those who feel solidarity with sexual assault victims (same for abuse, DV, etc.) A male victim has far more in common with a female
DirtRockets
victim than a female victim has in common with a female perpetrator. Those who do get this are part of a better solution of recognizing our
DirtRockets
agency, rather than recognizing the accidental, out-of-our-control circumstances of our birth. As a dude who's been assaulted, when I see
DirtRockets
men engaging in apologism -- not exercising caution and not rushing to judge, but actual justification -- because "women lie" (sure, some)
solipsist2501
Fortunately for most guys we just don't feel disgusted and violated in the same way, at least I never did, and I was literally 1/2
solipsist2501
Sandwiched between two older women from the bank I used to work at and dry humped/felt up for the better part of that night.
solipsist2501
I was 19 at the time
PKBitchGirl
Nah, it's not that they don't think men can't be victims of sexual assault, it's just they're sick of people using it to shut down 1/?
PKBitchGirl
discussion about women who have been assaulted, there's a lot of men who use this argument who also make fun of male victims of 2/?
PKBitchGirl
assault and tell them to man up or make I'd have loved that attention from my teacher as a kid, sorry but I don't have much time for 3/?
PKBitchGirl
people who respond to others complaining about negative experiences (not just sexual assault) they've had with "I'd have loved that" 4/?
PKBitchGirl
sorry, dude/gal but you're not everyone and everyone's not you, just because you'd love to have your hot teacher come on to you/had an 5/?
fredgiblet
thisisyourbrainonfeminism.gif
alex5775
"I see posts about feminists by sexist neckbeards on 4chan, so I know that's what all of feminism is like" -you
ICanHasJava
Wut? Feminists would agree with that tweet, though. They are consistently bringing up how patriarchy hurts both men and women.
treadwords
Which is total nonsense given how they themselves go out of their way to hurt men.
itseasierbeingaslut
3rd wave feminism is autistic, thats all you need.
iarecow
*distant screeching*
itseasierbeingaslut
REEEEE
fredgiblet
2nd wave was gendercidal IIRC, 3rd wave is autistic, here's hoping for the 4th wave to start soon.
itseasierbeingaslut
Nah we just need a 2nd wave in the middle east/africa, everywhere else is pretty good.
SpreadyUnsettling
It really isn't. EG: this fucking post.
ICanHasJava
Look, if you keep listening to all the autistic idiots instead of the sensible feminists, you'll never be satisfied.
bigassdolphin
It's a sad world where you cannot punch a sexual predator because of the penal system in place. The consequence is almost as bad.
itseasierbeingaslut
That’s a good world, you any go around assaulting people, especially if they aren’t convicted.
merlinious
What about self defense? If you try to physically hurt me, i should be allowed to prevent that.
bigassdolphin
I could not punch the person who was groping me against my will. I'd just be the guy that hit a woman.
AStegosaurus
You can legally be that guy. The social stigma is the only thing stopping you.
lazygrinder
As a man every time a drunk Bird grabbed my junk I got it out for her.
PhallicNinja
DEE IS A BIRD
cantbeasadmuffin
See that's the difference (in most cases) here. If a women exposed herself after being grabbed I'm sure she'd be raped but if a man does it
cantbeasadmuffin
He'll scare off his attacker (usually if it's a female) not excusing either side, just pointing out it's different for both sides.
lazygrinder
Why would she get raped? I do it for shits n gigs.
cantbeasadmuffin
I mean not if it's for fun but if there's a predator that just groped her without consent you think he's not gonna take advantage of an
itseasierbeingaslut
See, IMO that’s fine you both went for it. As stupid as it sounds.
lazygrinder
Well I know you think size matters but they seem to enjoy the show
MYLASAGA
Early bird gets the worm
sensoryte
so if i grab her by the pussy first and she grabs my dick that makes it magically okay? ok cool
itseasierbeingaslut
Yes, clearly. As you both are fine with it. But you really can't go around grabbing peoples junk.
lazygrinder
I'm not grabbing anything, that's a poor equivalent. Tbh what you said sounds like the start of sex.
sensoryte
it sure is with two intimate people, in my country however it is illegal without explicitly stated intent, intimate people or not
ImOPsMom
That's how the US Federal government is run at the moment so... Yeah totally legit
sensoryte
I usually just walk away, tho it's mostly my ass and I've never been free to pursue any of it and about 4/5 of all experiences were older
Outec
Not a fan of the title. Feminism and liberal do not mean anti male.
SwedishRationalist
Depends on the feminist. Many radical feminists are very much anti male and very unapologetic about it. Obviously #notallfeminists though.
MerlinSacrebleu
the feminist movement's actions indicate otherwise
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lordsmish
The owner of a mens abuse shelter commited suicide because protests by feminists led to him getting his funding taken away.
lordsmish
Erin Pizzey who set up the first womens shelter got death threats for saying that women can be abusers.
lordsmish
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/nov/26/gender.uk1
lordsmish
The woman who has contributed a shit ton to the safety of abused women was abused because she went against the grain.
EatTacos
In theory, your statement is accurate. In practice, your statement is not accurate more times than it's accurate.
NobleSavant
No... Quite the reverse. Most feminists are not anti male.
EatTacos
That may be your experience, but it has not been my experience.
NobleSavant
Then don't state it as fact. Because it isn't. It's centuries old propaganda for the most part. Note the word most. There are extremists.
EatTacos
Fuck you. It is a fact. And who the fuck are you to tell me what not to do?
6Oh4
As someone that has been sexually abused and assaulted by women, it's hard for us to talk about it because we're men, we should be stronger.
quattroformaggix4
It's not your fault. It's never your fault. Your not supposed to be anything. ----transmitting virtual compassion----
AmArschdieRaeuber
It's good that "perks of being a wallflower" talked about it
Inimposter
You're innately physically stronger by about a third in comparison to a woman. Doesn't translate into mental fortitude that well...
lordsmish
On average. I know a shit ton of women who could take me out and i'm a big lad.
lilskank
My ex used to shout/punch/kick/threaten to cheat/actually cheat/etc if I wouldn't 'do the do'. Rarely physically sexually harassed, per se,>
lilskank
but often manipulated/pressured into it. I learned that, sometimes, my life would run a lot more smoothly if I just gave in.
Katalack123
I'm sorry that happened to you.
Rkfinecake
Because the courts and social science see us as aggressors, the prejudice is that equivalent actions by women are welcomed by men.
ThatGuyVinny
I know a lot of guys who have been groped well out and see it as normal. Like we are expected to want to be touched all the time so its "ok"
quaintpearl
Not that you “should be stronger”but there should be better support. Abuse is abuse no matter who you are,how muscled, tall or short you are
SexualConsent
Yeah. I've read there's only like 1 or 2 abuse shelters for men in all of the US, and some unisex ones have been known to turn men away
6Oh4
And that's what we are told. I tried to talk to someone about it, a girl I really trusted. She just asked if I enjoyed it because if I 1/2
6Oh4
Got aroused then I enjoyed it. Which isn't true at all. 2/2.
notashill
Did you tell her some women have orgasms during rapes. Even stranger, due to intense nervous system demands, men have been known to have 1
notashill
Orgasms during battle. Hence the word bloodlust
PenicilliumCamemberti
That's the "if you got wet you liked it" argument right there. This is horrible.
quattroformaggix4
Yep, same argument, same bullshit. Nothing excuses rape. Nothing.
mandadadada
I have had a random orgasm by being kicked in the cooch in fact I almost pissed myself too. Let me tell you it wasnt fun
paintingagency
Probably not the best day of your week, for sure :/
BreadyStinellis
She's ignorant. That's your bodies natural response. It's happens to female rape victims too.
hadji
Every preteen knows males avoid sweatpants at school. Even girls. Because dicks get hard without arousal. F that 'friend'.
6Oh4
It really does suck though. The news is going after how the men did this and that, but the men that got assaulted is not news worthy enough.
6Oh4
IT should be talked about just as much as the women assaulted, because that isn't the only narrative that needs to change.
Wutsgeburt
Even the slightest rub or touch can get it to think it is "Action time".
6Oh4
That's what my abuser told me when I was a child, that "Oh look, you're happy, it's ok." That is forever burned into my memory.
DirtRockets
I had trouble talking about it for a while. I just decided one day fuck it, I wasn't going to. It happened, so I could either own it or it
DirtRockets
could own mean. You always look at it from your perspective, like, what's this person going to do? I didn't fight back 'cause I thought, if
DirtRockets
I punch her or throw her off, she's bruised, there's sexual fluid on both of us, who's going to jail here? Am I going to trust the person
DirtRockets
who told me, verbatim, "nobody says no to me" to admit what she did? Entitled enough to say that, but not entitled enough to dodge it?
italyball
Thank you for your story and being able to talk about it.
Arsikere
"should"
6Oh4
That's what we're told. "Are you sad? Be a man." or "Men don't cry." or "Men can't get raped or molested by women, don't be a pussy."
Arsikere
yeah i agree. also, oftentimes women frown on, or seem to get turned off, by guys who actually express emotion, seeing it as "complaining"
reyla
Alternatively I'm sure using physical force to remove the woman from your immediate vicinity would also be frowned upon. Sad situation.
ashmenon
"Hah, look at this guy complaining that he got laid"
Arsikere
i'm not sure what you're getting at here...
ashmenon
Sorry I thought the quote marks made it clear. It was an example of the kind of response male rape victims get.
GalaxyEater
Who cares about gender? It's not okay to grope ANY HUMAN BEING WITHOUT CONSENT.
ActualTttony
Also ask for consent from every inhabitant of every galaxy you eat. Galactic Lives Matter. (matter hehe)
GoliathSkittles
So...is it ok to grope animals? I'm just asking for a friend.
AbusedPickle
if it's your dog and you have built up trust, then yeah, but if it is a stranger dog, then you gota let em sniff your hand, see whats up.
SatansTesticles
Not allowed to pet your dog, sorry /s
TrijezniMujo
But asking for consent is such a mood killer. That's what I heard from all the women I've talked to.
PirateRubberDuck
It doesn't have to be verbal. you can say a lot with a look or body language.
TrijezniMujo
Yeeeah, court's gonna have a field day with "she was practically asking for it".
PirateRubberDuck
If you don't know a person well then nothing wrong with asking or waiting for really obvious signs but fuck me eyes are a thing.
egbertmoxie
You can turn asking into flirtation, teasing and dirty talk. Or just tell your partner what you like and ask if they'd like that too. Or 2/?
egbertmoxie
Are you serious? Enthusiastic consent is the sexiest thing ever. You can check for consent without putting on the breaks. For example, 1/?
TrijezniMujo
Yeaah... you're way to optimistic in regards to people like me. People like me are what's called hopeless.
egbertmoxie
Frankly, that's up to you.
TrijezniMujo
Not really, I lost it a long time ago. It was out of my hands, rigged from the start.
egbertmoxie
I find it incredibly hot when someone is clearly very interested in giving *me* pleasure, moreso than simply being there for theirs. 4/4
AVoiceOfReason
Yeah, my girlfriend is into consensual non-consent, which is a sexual choice under BDSM. If I asked her for consent, she'd dry up (1)
AVoiceOfReason
like the Sahara Desert. She likes spontaneity, like if I come up while she's going about her business and just grabbing her.
egbertmoxie
But that's her thing which I will assume you went over at some point. Even if not, it does not apply to most/many people.
egbertmoxie
Just have a conversation before you get fuckin' and ask if there's anything they don't enjoy and to let you know if something doesn't work.
TrijezniMujo
That assumes anybody would ever want to fuck me.
egbertmoxie
Well, if you think that about yourself, why should anyone else believe any differently? Sorry for being blunt, but it starts with you man.
TrijezniMujo
Oh sorry, replied to wrong message. But the gist is that I look good, am funny, am phyisically capable and I've got a future.
TrijezniMujo
Because I've survived things that killed other people ,because I've dragged people from death and into life. Because I'm capable goddamnit!
BDD85
Everyone knows men can't be victims of sexual harassment, just as black people can't be racist..
clanc43
HappyEngineer
Racism ≠ racial discrimination. Sexism ≠ sexual harassment. One's a system, the other's an action. Nobody has a monopoly on being a dick.
BDD85
Uh.. read that comment back aloud to yourself.. The very definition of those words are exactly what you say they are not. =/
ObviousPseudonym
There are multiple definitions of racism, only some of which involve systems, and others are individual actions and beliefs.
HappyEngineer
Indeed. People who say 'black ppl can't be racist' must be using the systems definition, by any other definition it's a ridiculous statement
hotdropoclock
Please tell me this is sarcasm.
BDD85
Nah, you'll have to figure that out on your own.
hotdropoclock
rosalynne95
I have a black sjw friend who is always posting about how ALL white people are the devil, like bitch how is that not racist??
IronicUsername
Then why is s/he your friend?
rosalynne95
Well we were childhood friends, I don't see her IRL just through fb. I stay friends with her because not EVERYTHING she posts is garbage.
CthulhusGreasyBallsack
you could just use the word "they" if you are worried about pronouns.
d3vilsavocado
I think in American English "they" is only plural, not singular. It's fine in regular English though
quattroformaggix4
No, 'they' is the accepted phrasing to refer to gender-divergent individuals regardless of the past grammatically correct usage.
CthulhusGreasyBallsack
I'm American, and that's not true.
rosalynne95
She actually does go by "they" pronouns lmao
IronicUsername
But instead I used a different term with the same amount of characters that was just as easy to understand.
quattroformaggix4
Actually, not the same meaning. Some don't prescribe to either traditionally accepted genders eg. Intersex people. They for the win.
CthulhusGreasyBallsack
I see that costco must have had a recent sale on the 75-pack of sass!
givemeyourhate
You either have a dick or a vagina. Deal with it.
orginelenaam
That's not true, intersex people can have genetalia that share characteristics with a vagina and with a penis or neither, look it up.
minipancho94
sex =/= gender, however anyone who throws a fit instead of politely letting you know they identify differently is just a twat.
AreThoseMyPants
Dick/Vagina determines sex, not gender. Also; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex
lordsmish
They are dealing with it but your idea of gender is wrong. Gender isn't a between the legs thing it's a social construct look it up.
soylentgreenisthefuture
I worked as a bouncer in the UK for 12 years in bars, pubs and nightclubs. I was touched inappropriately almost every week.
MyNameIsMudd420
Stop bragging lol
SystemZombie
I work at a bar as well. For some reason people think they can sexually harass the staff and it's okay. It isn't.
peoplearetheproblem
God I miss that job.
NoItWasTheOctopus
That should never happen, I'm sorry that it does. Lots of people are wising up and trying to change things for us all!
mistermixelpix
Former bouncer in the US. The amount of "sexual assault" I got was staggering. A girl deadass bit my nipple once.
BannedAssholes
As a current bouncer, can confirm. Women grope too often.
ilovereubensandwiches
It is what it is. Me too.
Omnimorph2112
When I was 18 I'd have 12-14 year old girls inappropriately touch me when walking around... Now that was fucking uncomfortable.
SlackerTactical
not even sure how this would happen
Omnimorph2112
Just through a shopping centre and stuff. But it was very strange because I didn't even think about doing anything about it.
elvichoperro
Nice
Uglysteve
I’m sorry.
Goose1981
Worked in a bar for 5 years during university. Same happened to me.
8008135calculator
Same with wearing a kilt. If I whipped a girls dress up for a look I’d be in jail. But it’s fine if I’m wearing a kilt to whip it up.
ScotlandSaysFuckYouLongshanks
Amen brother!!
lordsmish
The UK is awful for this I see women grabbing men more then the other way. Usually a man grabbing a women ends with somebody getting hit.
SomethingsNotQuiteRight
Yeah, had it happen to me a few times in clubs, but if I were to do the same to a woman I'd be all kinds of fucked. And not the good kind
lordsmish
It is a patriarchal thing though. Most see women as too innocent and not able to cause harm but see men as sex addled beasts.
lordsmish
So we feel as men that we need to protect women. So when a woman does something we ignore it but when a man does we rise to defend the woman
lordsmish
The worst part is the women who do this know they face no repercussion so they do it blatantly which only furthers the abuse for the man.
Strasburg6592
So women facing no repercussion is magically due to PATRIARCHY and not feminists like Mary P Koss saying men can't be raped?
Strasburg6592
So THIS is somehow Patriarchy? http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/nov/29/barbara-ellen-madeleine-martin-comment
Strasburg6592
Someone tell me how this is Patriarchy. http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/he-says-he-said-no-to-sex-now-says-no-to-child-support/1183449
Knillis
*high-pitched voice* Are you mansplaining me?
lordsmish
Always.x
soylentgreenisthefuture
Usually by older women. I'd have my crotch and my arse grabbed. My beard would be tugged and my shaved head rubbed.
WalkingWithPythons
Is that why you believe so heavily in silent green?
Knapaholic
Bouncer, here. Same situation for years. The part where my facial hair got grabbed was the only time I'd get annoyed. I HATE that.
ThrobbinHoodz
Beard gets grabbed on the regular by older women. One tried to sneak a picture of me when I was eating with friends. Fucks me off
PokoOnoandtheJamJams
TIL older women are basically 24 year old douche bros
soylentgreenisthefuture
You have to laugh it off as banter. Can you imagine a bouncer complaining about being touched? People physically attack us on the regular.
quattroformaggix4
Completely agree. Consent is universally required. Anything else is assault, no questions asked.
TheOtherOneWithTheHair
Not really, rubbing someone's head is condescending, but it's hardly assault. Doing it persistently might count as harassment though.
quattroformaggix4
yes, that is precisely what i meant. rubbing someones head + assault. thank you for making my sentiment clear.
apsuhos
Laugh it off? Omg dude I am really sorry that happened to you. I once smashed a girls face for grabbing my ass. Would do it again.
Primaltiguere
Isn't that a little excessive? A push or something would be better imo.
soylentgreenisthefuture
And don't get me started on hen parties... True equality is knowing that women can debase themselves and others as well as men.
Pominator91
Known some lads come out of the services onto the doors, amount of times they say (legitimately) "ship me back to fucking Afghan" is unreal.
notashill
Huh
Corrodias
I can totally imagine a bouncer saying that if you touch them again, you'll have a short date with the curb outside.
Detranica
It's the middle aged hen parties you really have to look out for
derwulf
https://youtu.be/Ug9lLJXH_7A Gaelic Storm did a song about it
Swedash
You're a bit like the women who don't report sexual harassment because "nobody would take them seriously". What would happen if you did?
BoomaBB
He'd get laughed at. Possibly fired.
Pominator91
Tbh the lasses know we are used to it, we get fucked by the SIA night and day... ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY LOSE YOUR FUCKING BADGES, 7 YEARS (1)
Pominator91
WORK HISTORY, £220 OF YOUR FUCKING MONEY and somehow it's your fault that they won't fix it, and they also decided to CLOSE THEIR FUCKING(2)
mikeyman512
I don't know a single guy in HS that wasn't "sack tapped" by another man including myself, it's literally culturally accepted as a game
HijinxM
I don't understand why that happens.
SexualConsent
As someone currently in HS- WTF is that
Shadehawk
you give someone a swift little "tap" in the balls with your knuckles
TheJonatron
I don't think that's really sexually motivated though. It's a minor assault that fucking hurts and can be majorly damaging.
Rheios
Which isn't any better for different reasons but at least isn't as awkward.
Bigcurly2000
Yep when I was an 18y/o barman I got my arse pinched by women older than my Mum. It made my skin crawl, but I never spoke up.
theyar
It's still considered rude for a man to not pretend to be flattered.
Nyoei
I'd feel quite justified smacking anyone in the mouth for feeling up my husband. It's not flattering, it's revolting and demeaning.
Ezekiel117
of course you didnt, we were scared into submission by our upbringing and environment
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lordsmish
Hey look guys the cause of the problem
theyar
I'm cool with that notion as long as we expect women to grow a pair and man the fuck up.
APinkDragon
I'm pretty sure manning the fuck up would be him speaking up to her. But think what you want. Doesn't change my -1 to this post.
anonjustforthisone
Unfair downvotes. I got what you meant.
anonjustforthisone
Will teach me to keep my fucking mouth shut....
TheStateOfDenial
Or to speak your mind freely with the understanding that fake internet points are meaningless.
APinkDragon
We all did. And they're not unfair. You're just a jackass too.
anonjustforthisone
"Man up" is what men were told. That's the implication. How does that make me a jackass? I never said it nor condone it.
ParanoidWithGoodCause
men can be the victims and is perhaps just as important to recognize that women can be the perpetrators.
appaismyspiritanimal
I know it receives a lot of hate, but glee actually did an episode about that.
Untilitisdone
I know right. Actually, did you know that women are responsible for most rapes in the US? Statistics shows them deez nuts
Erceen
Thank you captain obvious
amoebab
My uncle was a victim of domestic violence by his ex wife. More people need to be aware that male victims and female perpetrators exist!
Drewcifer70
True
FlamingoKick
I'm a female and was sexually harassed/sexually assaulted by my female supervisor. Women are just as bad because no one expects it from them
WorstShotEver
Cougars FTW!
PKBitchGirl
Cougars are only FTW if you want their attention.
Sheepyhead
You are what the Japanese refer to as "Kuuki Yomenai"
Cheesecakecrush
There is a small group of very loud, angry people who disagree with you and will receive large amounts of media coverage disagreeing.
rookiefdb
oh yeah. have seen a lot of think pieces stating we should treat men victims terribly to give them some of their own medicine. Toxic views
Cheesecakecrush
I've seen one that believes we should be kept in cells, isolated from all other male contact, and only brought out to breed.
rookiefdb
That's some end of the world shit right there. Holy fuck
ovelanimimerkki
Seriously, went out last friday, there was this one woman at the bar, she went way too close to nearly all the men. If I'd done that to >
ovelanimimerkki
women there, they would've thrown me out. She even scratched my friend. Some people just don't know how to behave.
lordsmish
Happened in a bar near me men were wearing kilts and a hen party decided they wanted to have a look and a feel.
lordsmish
Hen party got kicked out and one of the women put a window through tried to run and fell over her heel face planting on the floor.
number1keeper
I've had my dick grabbed and ass grabbed by women, strange how no one cares or assumes I enjoyed it.
Ezekiel117
that happened to me so i put my hand on her breast, she hit me then i got kicked out
Cofrane
Happened to me too at work... And when I said "what would happen if I did that to any other woman in this office??" she replied 1/2
Cofrane
"oh come on don't be a pussy" 2/2
BorkD
A lot of legal definitions of rape (also in a lot of studies) exclude 'forced to penetrate' altogether. I'm glad to see y'all care
minipancho94
yep can only be charged with sexual assault. also in some parts of the UK women just flat-out cannot be charged with rape.
BreadyStinellis
Yeah, the laws need to be broadened.
mandadadada
Correction : lots of studies have extreme difficulty in finding men who where SA victims and are willing to talk, also their numbers are<
DirtRockets
No, that might be context, but it's not a correction. Even the FBI's crime stats don't define forced envelopment as rape. It requires the
DirtRockets
offender to penetrate. So a man can rape a man by penetrating his anus (formerly forcible sodomy under FBI's legacy defs), a woman can rape
DirtRockets
a woman by penetrating her with her finger, a woman can rape a man by penetrating his anus with her finger, but cannot rape a man by forcing
PKBitchGirl
In Scotland it's only rape if you were penetrated by a penis, so a woman who stuck her fingers up a man's anus roughly enough to make 1/?
PKBitchGirl
him bleed couldn't be charged with rape, OK being penetrated by a penis can cause pregnancy in women and STDs in both men and women but 2/?
PKBitchGirl
come the fuck on Scotland, wake up and make it so being penetrated by something other than a penis is rape, eh but Scotland is a 3/?
PKBitchGirl
fucking joke, not sure if it's changed but couple of years back there was an age of consent for girls but none for boys, so girls 4/?
BreadyStinellis
Yeah, a lot of states in the US still have those old laws too. Or has to be penis in vagina penetration, anything else is just assault
iwanttomountndewya
Seriously, people only seem to take victimized men seriously if it was another man that assaulted then
minipancho94
doesnt help that the legal definition of rape does not contain "made to penetrate" so only sexual assault charges are possible.
RoseyRose
And even then it's hit and miss. Local cops did pretty much nothing when my ex raped me they treated it like a minor domestic dispute.
RoseyRose
"Those silly gays always raping"
JDBM
Welcome to patriarchy. It's not just about men oppressing women, it's the idea that only the actions taken by men are truly significant.
CptBubblebutt
Sure, do victim blaming, it worked wonders for women
kycooghost
I'm not sure if this is low quality bait, or a moron on the internet...
DSGVO
Let's hope it's low quality bait.
MayorDeweyMayorDewey
avan then you might still hear things like "man up" or some shit about mot seeking therapy because its not "manly."
MayorDeweyMayorDewey
like it may come as a big shock, but men have feelings too.
ParanoidWithGoodCause
we do, and we hide them as a defense mechanism because people usually women can and will use them against us to cause us further harm.
Jovikvon
Don't tell me how to feel..
ReallyBadMemory