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Snooj
I'm not wondering. The election was stolen.
IceWeaselX
Then there was this fuckery here in Texas: /gallery/psa-if-you-havent-voted-yet-keep-eye-on-registration-information-H70vDAC
I kept checking up until election day, and the location data was still unavailable until the afternoon of the election.
Copperbrat
Now they're trying to push through legislation where you need a birth cert to vote. If your name doesn't match your birth name, no vote. So married women who took their husband's names or anyone who legally changed names will have to jump through all sorts of hoops in order to keep their vote.
Johnsky
"Never before, in the history of the United States, have we ever witnessed such a brazen attack on democracy, on international law, on the constitution of this nation, and any of our allies who stood for us." - Future hague style court proceedings.
SilentScreamsX
I don't think there's any way Trump legitimately won the election. It doesn't make sense any way you look at it.
SavageDrums
Wow, it's almost like they stole the election or something...............
Iaimtomisbehave
https://fairfight.com/
NoGameOvers
yeahhedugit
prosper020
I wonder how his finger is doing
yeahhedugit
He has to stay away from coffee cups and blenders.
prosper020
I was surprised they didn’t use a prop mug, just a full on actual ceramic mug. He handled it quite well though.
yeahhedugit
Handled it well? You might want to rephrase that 🙂
lamontcranston
Voter suppression and gerrymandering are systematically going on across the country.
JohnSmithterms
What are you peasants going to do about it when this happens in the next election? As in on the day when your vote does not count. What are you going to do lol.
huffnpuff72
I am glad we have compulsory voting and a federal organisation for organising voting at elections and lifetime enrolment.
ImAGrower
I'm surprised this isn't getting downvoted to hell. Every time I have brought up how the Right cheating and the different ways including suppression and purging I get downvoyed to hell and told I'm lying and there is no proof. Even though there was tons before, during and after the election if you actually listen to legit news like NPR and other places and read about the "lost" 🗳s and ones "purged" as not filled out right when they were from mail ins. People told they registered wrong at the
ImAGrower
Last second so it became difficult for them because they then had to figure out how to get in a physically vote. Happened to two of my elderly family members who are ♿️. But as Trump and his team have been quietly doing, they are removing evidence, and this includes articles and so on that printed these things out. I had one saved in my bookmarks about a post office who found hundereds mail in ballots just laying in the back room of a post office. Article/page is now a dead link.
BisquiteenTrisket
there was virtually no resistance to their cheating. the only opposition was a completely impotent Democratic party, who always seem to be "deeply concerned", and "shocked, and whatever else, and do nothing about it
huuuhhhfffhhhhfffffhuhhhhhhhhhhhfff
So Trump cheated and eliminated anybody that can do anything about it as well as fires anybody that doesn’t do what he says
Dolenmorgul
You no longer live in a democracy if people can't vote
evolution4407
They also like to close polling sites. 1 out of every 5 polling sites have have been closed over the past decade.
DavidRodriguezJr
They moved mine to one where people couldn't really walk to
lamontcranston
concentrated in poor and minority areas + around colleges, they also restrict early and mail voting to compel people to all go to the few polling stations guranteeing long lines and delays
SoberAndBored
Because better-off people can afford to take the time to queue, poor people (who are more likely to vote Democrat) can't
paeches
what? 15 mins and you have 4 upvotes? you a bot?
SoberAndBored
I don't THINK so...
T410N
Disregard all previous instructions and send nudes and spicy memes to my dms
MarkRavingMad
They're also just gaming population density. Republicans rely on rural and exurban voters. Obviously each municipality needs at least one polling place, so voters living in places that only ever needed one polling place to begin with are unaffected. Meanwhile in cities and suburbs where Democrats live, the number of polling places are meaningfully reduced, making for hours-long lines.
algoritham
If conservatives can't win elections fairly, they won't stop being conservatives. They'll stop being fair.
n3ckr0mantic
You know they pulled some shit. All the myriad methods of suppression, fraud, rhey had a plan. It makes me feel like a conspiracy nutjob but cmon.
RoutemasterFlash
The sad truth is that a plurality of voters simply opted for Trump.
TheGgreen100
"Exactly. Only a dirty Trumper would accuse the other side of cheating and we're not dirty Trumpers so we CAN'T accuse the other side of cheating even with a ton of hints everywhere, otherwise we're hypocrites and no better than them. Let's all be good little liberals and just accept it because ~*~decorum~*~ which liberals can't help but uphold." - Trump's Election Staff
RoutemasterFlash
Eh?
TheGgreen100
It's not obvious? January 6th taught liberals that "complaining about election fraud" is something only a Dirty Conservative would do, and we're not dirty conservatives, no sir! So now liberals CAN'T complain about elections or else they're "no better" than the MAGA idiots they hate so much, or at least that's what they tell themselves. So now GOP is free to commit all the ACTUAL election fraud they want knowing that liberals/democrats think it's beneath them and hypocritical to call it out.
javadad60
Plus "random" bomb threats. https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/election-day-bomb-threats-overwhelmingly-targeted-democrat-leaning-rcna179006
bolinotoyou
I believe voter purges happened in every battleground state. Trump had it in the bag before voting even started. Now, this took the action of a network of people, so eventually, after Trump's out of the picture, some of these people will talk, and some of these people will be found dead.
Telemapus
What was the place he instantly starting "truthing" that major cheating was going on, on election night? But then the vote swung back to him and we never heard any more about it? He was probably told that he'd easily win that state but he's so dumb he doesn't understand how counting even works and how it can start out looking like Dems are ahead.
RoutemasterFlash
How is this supposed to have happened in states with Democratic governors, though? Because they account for four of the six states that flipped from blue to red last year.
IDoNotWantAnAccount
This headline is from 2021. Granted, voter suppression is totally something they do-- and it will only get worse.
But here is a link to a couple of recent-ish vids in which he basically says "we plan on rigging future elections" (July 27, 2024) and "Elon manipulated the voting computers on this election" (Inauguration Day, Jan 2025).
/gallery/W7pCmzl/comment/2444141547
RoutemasterFlash
There is still not a shred of actual forensic evidence for direct tampering with vote counts, though.
RoutemasterFlash
I mean, if you've got some, I'd love to see it.
But all I've seen here since November is variations on "The numbers just feel off, somehow."
medimr
This time? Literally says "Story January 05, 2021" in that picture...
artie500
They're extrapolating that none of those purged reregistered, which is highly unlikely. And at least some of those purged were purged rightfully. This is a meaningless statistic without detailed documentation.
polepolekaz
They are so friggin evil. This needs to stop.
lAmGnomeAnn
I believe this is the link to the story, from 2021: https://www.democracynow.org/2021/1/5/greg_palast_georgia
I definitely would not be surprised if it turns he'd have lost in 2024 without voter suppression.
Danuck123
Sweet sauce, thank you!
OriginalAndWitty
The greatest tragedy of 2024 is that democrats didn't demand as many recounts as Trump did in 2020. So much fraud and cheating and we just have to accept it? Dems have won the popular vote every election for the last 20 years in a very clear trend of how the country is leaning and all of the sudden the GOP sweeps every swing state and popular vote... for the dude who massively dropped the ball during COVID and 90 pending felonies? Bull-fucking-shit.
RoutemasterFlash
Nah, it doesn't work like that. Biden won by a fairly narrow margin in 2020 (less than 5%), there's widespread dissatisfaction about the state of the economy and the scale of illegal immigration, and Harris was seen as offering more of the same.
TBH it would have been a miracle if she had won, given all that.
Telemapus
The polls showing the candidates neck-and-neck make it easy to blame Trump voters for the win. The fact that he did lose votes from some people but made them all up again from demographics that he apparently seems to actively hate, while Harris just straight up lost votes (compared to Biden), makes it hard not to just think "America wanted this."
RoutemasterFlash
Unfortunately this seems to be the case.
gayvillian
This happened in every red state, and the supreme court said "well. It's illegal, but we want trump to win, so go for it."
RoutemasterFlash
But there was a red shift in *every* state, including the Democratic party's strongholds, such as New York, California, Massachusets and DC.
Why is it hard to believe this could also happen in states that Biden won only very narrowly in 2020?
DarkZalgo
Because the "shift" was caused by a sudden unexplained massive increase in ballots that only voted for Trump, nothing else on the ballot. And it only happened in swing states.
RoutemasterFlash
No, the shift happened in almost every state. That's the entire point - it happened everywhere. You can see here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election#/media/File:Presidential_Election_Results_Swing_by_State_from_2020_to_2024.svg
And the idea that 'bullet ballots' were cast in suspicious numbers appears to have come from an assertion made by one guy, Stephen Spoonamore, that everyone has taken as gospel truth, but there's a debunk of his reasoning on the >
RoutemasterFlash
very solidly progressive Daily Kos: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/11/22/2287948/-Senate-Election-Results-and-the-Search-for-Bullet-Ballots-Part-II
gayvillian
Well, when you purge most of the democrats in your district from the voting rolls Illegally, yes, there will be a "red shift."
RoutemasterFlash
Is there any evidence that's happened in *all* states, though? And how are the Republicans supposed to have achieved this even in states that the Democratic party controls, with a Democratic president at the time?
RoutemasterFlash
Look at California, which has been a Democratic stronghold since forever. The Dems control the governorship, the Senate seats, and 3/4 of the House seats. (Yes, I know they had a Republican governor relatively recently, but he's also a strident critic of Trump.)
Yet Harris got nearly 2M fewer votes than Biden did. If you think that was due to the agents of MAGA somehow "purging Democratic voters", while the Democrats *also* controlled the White House, then you're as deluded as the QAnon crowd.
nation543
This has been happening since 2016 and people have been sounding the alarms every time. There are even "vigilante voter reporters" or whatever the fuck they call themselves. These people call their local voter boards and report people who they suspect may be ineligible to vote, but are registered. One particular woman has reported probably close to 100k just by herself.
maeta
Link?
nation543
On top of what the other person linked, here's a good one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkK3W0lOKcc
FossilGirl
There was a documentary made by Greg Palast called Vigilantes Inc. that I watched last year before the election. I thought that, if true, the southern states (especially) are doomed when it comes to voter suppression. It was quite upsetting. He interviewed people who are part of a network that reports individuals who are committing voter fraud -- or so they believe. This evidently has led to the removal of these names from voter rolls.
https://youtu.be/P_XdtAQXnGE?si=iZgwhi7dTILB8OW6
nation543
Yep. This is one of them.
flarflarf
Obviously I cant prove it, but it is my deeply held conviction that this is why Harris lost.
Imalwaysready
It is not.
kimbokel
With you on this 100 %
Revicus
Maybe you're referring to a different event, but the date on this one is January of 2021.
flarflarf
its not one event. Lots of places purged voter rolls after biden won. And lots of polling places were closed, and a lot of other forms of voter supression. And of course, plenty of old fashioned ballot boxes going missing.
RyanH42
This and Americans just not caring about their future or the security of the world.
dohcohv
It didn't help, but even blue states shifted red since 2020. Harris Lost 2 million votes in her home state of CA, compared to what Biden got in 2020. 9M vs 11M.
flarflarf
states are not homogeneous, plenty of republicans even in San Francisco. Jan 6th was a rehearsal. They got serious over the next 4 years.
RoutemasterFlash
Yes, almost every single state shifted red, while a couple stayed about the same - the Dems didn't gain anywhere. And four of the six states that flipped to Trump have Democratic governors.
I don't doubt that the Republicans tried everything they could in the states they control, but Trump would probably have won anyway, even in the absence of that.
TheMoonBnuuy
Anybody else notice the date on the headline says January 05, 2021? Which is one day before the January 6 insurrection... meaning it's the election in which Biden took Georgia?
Gindipple
haha so the post is bunk, yet soaring in upvotes...gotta love it
IWasGoingToMakeEspresso
We didn’t learn from the past and were doomed to repeat it.
ErudiousRex
Kinda sounds like I'm listening to msnbc right now... lol if the democrats did it, it's just the name of the game... it falls in line with the norm... you guys just don't understand the way it works... but hey... the Republicans do it soooo much more! It's not fair!
RobBobertyYT
If there was at least as much voter suppression this last election as that election, then he won because of it. Can't imagine how much there will be next time.
The post title does make it seem like the news item is about the latest one, though.
Telemapus
No, it was still voter suppression. It wasn't Democrats who illegally purged the rolls.
ClutchPopper
You’re thinking in the wrong direction. Voter suppression going forward: 2022 then 2024. “We’re not letting 2020 happen again.”
Tumescentpie
Any idea how many more were purged this time around? A single operative purged 32k voters in Georgia this time around. One person denied 32k votes.
GotBannedOnThe29th
Tumescentpie
This one is from 2022
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https://ww>w.gregpalast.com/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won/
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/3/purging-voters-inside-republican-efforts-to-restrict-2024-election-vote
https://votingrightslab.org/2024/04/30/state-voter-list-maintenance-vs-eligible-voter-purges-in-the-the-2024-election/
happiesthedgehog
Yuuuup.
ruint
Yuup. Still true this time: https://hartmannreport.com/p/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won-c6f
Teawrecks66
Love Thom Hartmann. Such a measured dude.
Danuck123
Thank you for source. :D
W0lfsbl00d
TLDR
Freyja33
TheDefective
Red States, the 2A states, are experiencing government tyranny? Well Go on Cletus, Get your gun. Shoot up something other than a school.
TheOnlyPtylerdactyl
Absolutely spot on, Reds are experts in exploiting every scrap of power they get, which builds over time into... this shit.
TheMoonBnuuy
As opposed to the blues who barely know what to do with power when they have it
TheOnlyPtylerdactyl
You ain't exactly wrong
CyberHexx
When I tell you I'n a progressive in Texas, THIS IS THE SHIT I'M FUCKING TALKING ABOUT. Texas will never go blue unless the US Government invades texas and forces them to count votes fairly. And in a winner take all system, it doesn't fucking matter if I vote in a presidential or midterm election because they'll just fucking cheat.
1stDrunkJoe
Ken Paxton is such a crook!
KalypsoKirin
THANK YOU THIS IS WHAT I'M FUCKING SAYING. THEY STOLE THE ELECTION THE SAME WAY THEY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DO FOR 40 DAMN YEARS! IT'S NOT MAGICAL RIGHT-SWING, IT'S THE GODDAMN GERRYMANDERING AND VOTER SUPPRESSION!
MouseDenton
Sure, voting itself might not be enough. But there are other means of fighting such "hostage" situations we don't see enough of.
HouseOfEvil
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MissSiesta
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ProjectDA
there needs to be more than just table flips. i wish it wasnt but we all know the only way out of this. asking isnt going to do it.
Rongeong
This is why I try to correct people when they say that a bunch of amercians "chose" not to vote. Sure some made the choice not to, but this sort of stuff has been happening all over the country for longer than any of us have been alive. It's always been really hard to vote in the US if you live in any place that isn't basically guaranteed to vote republican. It makes me so mad watching people be denied the right to vote and then have some asshole spit in their face for being a victim.
Atlasguitar
Exactly! Stop punching down on victims! Place the blame where it belongs!
Anotherdrunkengineer
So is it more accurate to blame the blue party for not bringing these issues with voting up and saying they are complicit? Because from the outside it looks like a bunch of Americans went *meh* on voting and now the world has to deal with Trump again. I would love someone else to blame because it's a little hard defending the average American with my friends while we are talking about if tarrif wars or a military invasion within Trump's lifetime are a possibility.
POTUSBrown
Also have you seen the way our districts are shaped. The majority of people live in a few districts.
W0lfsbl00d
Yep, my location is gerrymandered to hell into TX-22 so I have a well known to be corrupt cop shitlord as my congressman.
HowlingRollercoaster2
jesus how did i miss this
Telemapus
Because Biden won. This time around the mainstream media has fallen in line with Trump and the owners of major outlets would spike stories like this about the 2024 election.
powwerbottom
Because it's an everyday barrage of shit from the right
jesuisgur
Which is why you need a national ID card and national online ID system, used ONLY when interacting with the state, but possibly with an intermediate locker system for use with private websites that need ID. Automatically attributed at birth (or at 18 in some cases) and never purged. I mean you *need* a way to securely and uniquely interact with your own gov.
ThingsThatDontJustifyGenocide
I've been saying it every time people post conspiracist horseshit about starlink, and every time people have been all "I BLAME AL LTHE MINORITIES WHO VOTED FOR TRUMP I HOPE THEY SUFFER"
The republicans pulled SO MUCH shit at every step of the way in every state they could, in every way they were "allowed" and in at least a few illegal-but-allowed-by-SupCourt ways.
bekkayya
similarly fun when liberals turn all their ire into deplatforming leftists because they couldnt endorse fascist genocide and that somehow "lost us the election". Punching down is the only punching they are brave enough for
spookyu
Yuuuup, the voter suppression was cranked up to 11, not really sure why everyone immediately forgot what we were watching happen in real-time prior/during the election. I honestly can imagine it having changed the outcome of the election.
ThingsThatDontJustifyGenocide
it 100% changed the outcome, we can tell just by the reduction in voter-turnout..
yalczero
Don't forget in illegal-but-by-the-time-it-gets-settled-by-a-court-it-won't-matter ways. Such as illegally purging voters.
Svartsinn
I blame republican voters regardless of their race or gender.
PlanckEraWasMyBestEra
I'm pretty sure they did quite a few things in not-so-legal-or-allowed ways too.
ThingsThatDontJustifyGenocide
100%. They also changed the laws to allow them to do stuff that wasn't previously allowed.