Dec 8, 2018 4:58 AM
ARussianAndHisBike
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2TbspOfDogAssOil
Put that thing back where it came from or so help me, dum dum dum...
Mastertothewakingworld
That's called half-swording, it was a very effective fighting technique used against armor. The pommel would pierce through.
RedRiotUnbreakable
Murder stroke! (Actually quite effective vs armour)
NoCityBoy
oh he's smart like my shoe
WhySoDucky
Arin from GameGrumps in a nutshell
silbendrechsler
The (late) medieval German caption reads 'Daz anlouffen nach dem schutz' 'The attack after taking cover' (I *think* that's what it means)
MiddleTiddy
lancell
“Begone T H O T”
buuumped
Don't introduce this kid to guns
jesusisherelookbusy
ShaggaLikesAxes1
We need more medieval memes.
VAPOR85
Me with smash yesterday no really ultimate is my first smash
thoraxe707
TheOneWhoFoundSauce
Eltore
v
FightMeYouLongAssBitch
Running around confused and dieing a lot for an hour is just part of the experience.
AnimeSquirrel
I belive it's called a murder stroke.
bloodbloodbloodblood
Yep. Turns out, the off-label uses for a sword have metal-as-fuck names.
Eekers01
nickelshark
End him rightly!
DeMelonia
That’s me my first time playing Dark Souls. “How hard can it be?”
KingOFrod
I have a friend like this, ends up hating the game cause he doesn't know how to play...
BikeWanker
Step one: skip tutorial. Step two: die, a lot. Step three: Look up the fucking manual online because this game is bullshit!
DoctahGhostly
Arin is that you?
grahmcrackersbook
Step 4 keep dying because you realize you're playing dark souls
tzxAzrael
tbf; if you can get your guy to equip a sword by the blade instead of handle, yea, you probably don't need a tutorial.
GeneralArtek
Trying to cut the knight if null plate armor with the edge is useless, so its better to just bash him on the head with the pommel
Ninjadude159
End them rightly.
Magyarharcos
Its half-swording and its real. It aint stupid if it works.
MetalheadCobra
That's technique is used, to damage enemies in heavy armor. And yes, you won't cut yourself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwuQPfvSSlo
Keairan
+1 for Skall
Kamica
So you're saying you know exactly what secret techniques to apply to win a fight, without needing a tutorial? Nice.
bielobog
It's - actually - a legitimate combat move called Mordstreich or Mordhau; but there's little confidence in that dude's face.
TheAccursedHamster
Blame the game while youre at it and you might as well change your name to Arin.
Bobsbullshit
I came to the comments looking for this
DJBiceps
Same
Cheesewheeler04
Throw the pummel.
NJAW
Calm down there Fiore
coffeepainter
*pommel
Selerox
The word pummel comes from the word pommel. As in "to pommel someone" means the same as "pummel". So he's technical not wrong.
GrimRedeemer
This is intended to show two fighters in full armor. They just couldn't be bothered to draw all that full armor, midway through ... (1/2)
(Imgur eats comments) ... the illustrations they switched to just drawing plain clothes. It shows an armored duel, from beginning to end.
To see the whole thing, click here: /a/FSjpSl7
destinychopsticks
Have you ever tried stabbing someone in a harness of full plate? You can't. Don't believe what movies tell you. You smash them in the head.
Wrong. You definitely can, even though it's really difficult. Smashing them in the head is also possible but really difficult. Armor works!
Stabbing through plate armour will get you a couple inches at best, if you hit perfectly perpendicular. Marginally easier to bludgeon.
You don't even try stabbing through the plates. You stab in the armpits, groin, inside elbows. The less protected spots.
To effectively bludgeon someone wearing full plate, you have to hit them squarely and hit really fricken hard.
Fuzzynubz
They legit used to pommel-strike people's heads in just like that, but I'll admit the drawing makes him look like a fool.
Sirsir94
The knights pose also makes him look like a fool. But a fool who didn't cut himself doing a pommel strike
BronzeLeaguePro
Oh, you have immunity to slashing damage? Good ting my sword COMES WITH A CLUB, MR SKELLINGTON. - Not D&D because reasons.
TheKindlyOnes
MORDSCHLAG!!!
[deleted]
other techniques such as half swording. Also, "a sharp is a sharp is a sharp" an old reference to the varying degrees of sharpness of blade
This is from Talhoffer, not Fiore. MS Thott.290.2º 87 recto.
Tankadin37
I see that you, too, enjoy watching Skallagrim on youtube.
To see the whole thing in context, see here: /a/FSjpSl7
ContinuallySenseless
For those curious, https://youtu.be/vwuQPfvSSlo Bit of an explanation and demonstration.
GorillaPilot
Did you not read the message man dose not need a tutorial!!!!!
KingKelloggTheWaffleHaggler
The sue of that technique is exaggerated, not to mention was later in history than people seem to think.
UserSubHunterOfIndeterminateGender
It's called a mordhau or "murder stroke." Its used to defeat plague armor when you only have a sword.
hurrdurr69
Fuckin plague armor
SirDoober
Praise Nurgle!
Xelbair
Only Papa Nurlge loves you. Others will use and discard you, but Papa Nurgle love is eternal.
I know you meant plate, but that sounds so much more badass lol
DefinitelyAFurry
The blade won't cut even bare skin unless it sides, so all you gotta do is grip it real good. This was a strategy used against knights 1/2
*slides, not sides
in armor, blunt objects like a mace or sword are most effective because they basically concuss people to death, while a blade just 2/3
bounces off the helmet unless you thrust into a slit (that's what she said) in the armor, which ain't easy.
Burdenhand
How does one do that? Seems like you would cut your hands.
exoskeletonsforcats
If the sword doesnt slide it wont hurt your hand
p75369
Rather than squeezing the edges against your thumb and fingers, you squeeze the flat against your palm with your finger tips.
TheTagg
Take your kitchen knife and some pork and just press the knife as hard as you possibly can. It wont cut. But if you drag the knife it will
Cut the meat. Same works with your hand. If you just press it its safe.
Typically with gloves/gauntlet but you can grip to minimize damage to yourself as well.
PandaDander
It's a matter of proper grip, sword blades are more prone to cut as they move across the skin. You firmly grip the sides of the blade.
Oolie
Swords were not razor sharp, that made the edge stronger for fighting.
doobiedoobop
They wear gloves, and it's only the end third of the sword that's sharp, the rest is left blunter for parrying strikes. The technique>
is called half-swording, it was used to strike with the pommel and cross guard or for a more powerful thrust.
cannonesshannah
You grip the blade with the heel of your hand against the flat and curl your fingers around the blade.
You'll only cut your fingers off if you do it wrong. So they had lots of incentive to learn the proper technique.
eggmuffin
Which is preferable to dying. But you'd be wearing gloves, and your hands wouldn't move along the blade.
pacopower
Look up " skallagrim pommel strick " on YouTube
Rikkom
I think I will do this actually
moshthun
You're starting people on the path of ending others rightly.
slapyamomma
Look up "Half-Swording" by Skallgrim on YouTube
The bottom third to half usually isn't sharpened. Most of the work is done with the top third of the blade.
bobocszjq
Y u downvoting this dude?
The HEMA community can get a bit... heated on some of the finer points of the sport.
Yeah, but if they fail to provide counterarguments they're just simpletons.
FlyingGiantElk
You don’t grip it normally, instead basically pressing the blade between your hands and fingers. Same as half-swording I bet.
TheRicM
Ok so now, what is half-swording?
It's also a really effective tactic in close-in combat where there's not enough room to actually swing a sword effectively.
PatrikLilja
What the armored guy is doing. One hand on the blade.
GyroRag
Exactly what it sounds like: one hand on the hilt, other mid-way on the blade. Allows for more control and accuracy on strikes or thrusts.
Thank you for the info!
afkMozart
Grabbing the blade with one hand to precisely drive it into gaps in someone's armor: http://www.schlachtschule.org/pictures/a-half.jpg
Like a billiards cue stick? Lol jk got it, thanks for the info!
JustARandomKorean
You have to grab it in a way where you're hand doesn't slide. I think its called a murder strike/blow
thatclimbingguy
no YOU'RE hand!
Good ole auto correct, I'll the the L on this one
D4NG3RD4N3
I'll call the bondulance.
2TbspOfDogAssOil
Put that thing back where it came from or so help me, dum dum dum...
Mastertothewakingworld
That's called half-swording, it was a very effective fighting technique used against armor. The pommel would pierce through.
RedRiotUnbreakable
Murder stroke! (Actually quite effective vs armour)
NoCityBoy
oh he's smart like my shoe
WhySoDucky
Arin from GameGrumps in a nutshell
silbendrechsler
The (late) medieval German caption reads 'Daz anlouffen nach dem schutz' 'The attack after taking cover' (I *think* that's what it means)
MiddleTiddy
lancell
“Begone T H O T”
buuumped
Don't introduce this kid to guns
jesusisherelookbusy
ShaggaLikesAxes1
We need more medieval memes.
VAPOR85
Me with smash yesterday no really ultimate is my first smash
thoraxe707
TheOneWhoFoundSauce
Eltore
FightMeYouLongAssBitch
Running around confused and dieing a lot for an hour is just part of the experience.
AnimeSquirrel
I belive it's called a murder stroke.
bloodbloodbloodblood
Yep. Turns out, the off-label uses for a sword have metal-as-fuck names.
Eekers01
nickelshark
End him rightly!
DeMelonia
That’s me my first time playing Dark Souls. “How hard can it be?”
KingOFrod
I have a friend like this, ends up hating the game cause he doesn't know how to play...
BikeWanker
Step one: skip tutorial. Step two: die, a lot. Step three: Look up the fucking manual online because this game is bullshit!
DoctahGhostly
Arin is that you?
grahmcrackersbook
Step 4 keep dying because you realize you're playing dark souls
tzxAzrael
tbf; if you can get your guy to equip a sword by the blade instead of handle, yea, you probably don't need a tutorial.
GeneralArtek
Trying to cut the knight if null plate armor with the edge is useless, so its better to just bash him on the head with the pommel
Ninjadude159
End them rightly.
Magyarharcos
Its half-swording and its real. It aint stupid if it works.
MetalheadCobra
That's technique is used, to damage enemies in heavy armor. And yes, you won't cut yourself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwuQPfvSSlo
Keairan
+1 for Skall
Kamica
So you're saying you know exactly what secret techniques to apply to win a fight, without needing a tutorial? Nice.
bielobog
It's - actually - a legitimate combat move called Mordstreich or Mordhau; but there's little confidence in that dude's face.
TheAccursedHamster
Blame the game while youre at it and you might as well change your name to Arin.
Bobsbullshit
I came to the comments looking for this
DJBiceps
Same
Cheesewheeler04
Throw the pummel.
NJAW
Calm down there Fiore
coffeepainter
*pommel
Selerox
The word pummel comes from the word pommel. As in "to pommel someone" means the same as "pummel". So he's technical not wrong.
GrimRedeemer
This is intended to show two fighters in full armor. They just couldn't be bothered to draw all that full armor, midway through ... (1/2)
GrimRedeemer
(Imgur eats comments) ... the illustrations they switched to just drawing plain clothes. It shows an armored duel, from beginning to end.
GrimRedeemer
To see the whole thing, click here: /a/FSjpSl7
destinychopsticks
Have you ever tried stabbing someone in a harness of full plate? You can't. Don't believe what movies tell you. You smash them in the head.
GrimRedeemer
Wrong. You definitely can, even though it's really difficult. Smashing them in the head is also possible but really difficult. Armor works!
destinychopsticks
Stabbing through plate armour will get you a couple inches at best, if you hit perfectly perpendicular. Marginally easier to bludgeon.
GrimRedeemer
You don't even try stabbing through the plates. You stab in the armpits, groin, inside elbows. The less protected spots.
GrimRedeemer
To effectively bludgeon someone wearing full plate, you have to hit them squarely and hit really fricken hard.
Fuzzynubz
They legit used to pommel-strike people's heads in just like that, but I'll admit the drawing makes him look like a fool.
Sirsir94
The knights pose also makes him look like a fool. But a fool who didn't cut himself doing a pommel strike
BronzeLeaguePro
Oh, you have immunity to slashing damage? Good ting my sword COMES WITH A CLUB, MR SKELLINGTON. - Not D&D because reasons.
TheKindlyOnes
MORDSCHLAG!!!
[deleted]
[deleted]
NJAW
other techniques such as half swording. Also, "a sharp is a sharp is a sharp" an old reference to the varying degrees of sharpness of blade
GrimRedeemer
This is from Talhoffer, not Fiore. MS Thott.290.2º 87 recto.
Tankadin37
I see that you, too, enjoy watching Skallagrim on youtube.
GrimRedeemer
To see the whole thing in context, see here: /a/FSjpSl7
ContinuallySenseless
For those curious, https://youtu.be/vwuQPfvSSlo Bit of an explanation and demonstration.
GorillaPilot
Did you not read the message man dose not need a tutorial!!!!!
KingKelloggTheWaffleHaggler
The sue of that technique is exaggerated, not to mention was later in history than people seem to think.
UserSubHunterOfIndeterminateGender
It's called a mordhau or "murder stroke." Its used to defeat plague armor when you only have a sword.
hurrdurr69
Fuckin plague armor
SirDoober
Praise Nurgle!
Xelbair
Only Papa Nurlge loves you. Others will use and discard you, but Papa Nurgle love is eternal.
Fuzzynubz
I know you meant plate, but that sounds so much more badass lol
DefinitelyAFurry
The blade won't cut even bare skin unless it sides, so all you gotta do is grip it real good. This was a strategy used against knights 1/2
DefinitelyAFurry
*slides, not sides
DefinitelyAFurry
in armor, blunt objects like a mace or sword are most effective because they basically concuss people to death, while a blade just 2/3
DefinitelyAFurry
bounces off the helmet unless you thrust into a slit (that's what she said) in the armor, which ain't easy.
Burdenhand
How does one do that? Seems like you would cut your hands.
exoskeletonsforcats
If the sword doesnt slide it wont hurt your hand
p75369
Rather than squeezing the edges against your thumb and fingers, you squeeze the flat against your palm with your finger tips.
TheTagg
Take your kitchen knife and some pork and just press the knife as hard as you possibly can. It wont cut. But if you drag the knife it will
TheTagg
Cut the meat. Same works with your hand. If you just press it its safe.
Fuzzynubz
Typically with gloves/gauntlet but you can grip to minimize damage to yourself as well.
PandaDander
It's a matter of proper grip, sword blades are more prone to cut as they move across the skin. You firmly grip the sides of the blade.
Oolie
Swords were not razor sharp, that made the edge stronger for fighting.
doobiedoobop
They wear gloves, and it's only the end third of the sword that's sharp, the rest is left blunter for parrying strikes. The technique>
doobiedoobop
is called half-swording, it was used to strike with the pommel and cross guard or for a more powerful thrust.
cannonesshannah
You grip the blade with the heel of your hand against the flat and curl your fingers around the blade.
cannonesshannah
You'll only cut your fingers off if you do it wrong. So they had lots of incentive to learn the proper technique.
eggmuffin
Which is preferable to dying. But you'd be wearing gloves, and your hands wouldn't move along the blade.
pacopower
Look up " skallagrim pommel strick " on YouTube
Rikkom
I think I will do this actually
moshthun
You're starting people on the path of ending others rightly.
slapyamomma
Look up "Half-Swording" by Skallgrim on YouTube
UserSubHunterOfIndeterminateGender
The bottom third to half usually isn't sharpened. Most of the work is done with the top third of the blade.
bobocszjq
Y u downvoting this dude?
UserSubHunterOfIndeterminateGender
The HEMA community can get a bit... heated on some of the finer points of the sport.
bobocszjq
Yeah, but if they fail to provide counterarguments they're just simpletons.
FlyingGiantElk
You don’t grip it normally, instead basically pressing the blade between your hands and fingers. Same as half-swording I bet.
TheRicM
Ok so now, what is half-swording?
Selerox
It's also a really effective tactic in close-in combat where there's not enough room to actually swing a sword effectively.
PatrikLilja
What the armored guy is doing. One hand on the blade.
GyroRag
Exactly what it sounds like: one hand on the hilt, other mid-way on the blade. Allows for more control and accuracy on strikes or thrusts.
TheRicM
Thank you for the info!
afkMozart
Grabbing the blade with one hand to precisely drive it into gaps in someone's armor: http://www.schlachtschule.org/pictures/a-half.jpg
TheRicM
Like a billiards cue stick? Lol jk got it, thanks for the info!
JustARandomKorean
You have to grab it in a way where you're hand doesn't slide. I think its called a murder strike/blow
thatclimbingguy
no YOU'RE hand!
JustARandomKorean
Good ole auto correct, I'll the the L on this one
D4NG3RD4N3
I'll call the bondulance.