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SMHandSmiling
Thanks for including the PA crash-too often forgotten.
Ceramia
I was 14 when this happened. It's a day I could never forget even if I wanted to.
ladybird2223
13. This was our generation's game changer.
TallStormDragon
Let's not forget about the heroes on United Airlines Flight 93 that prevented that day from getting any worse
TheLannistersSendALovelyFruitBasket
I rely so much on dark humor and bad jokes as a coping mechanism. But I live in NY and seeing all this again...I got nothin' at all
AnswerLady
Bless the heroes of 9/11.
Raenerys
Let us never forget the heroes who rushed into the chaos and risked their lives to save complete strangers. RIP
TwoSeamer
I remember my mom in the Czech was taking me to elementary school, I couldn't figure out why she was crying. She felt with people in the US
stopridingthatpenguin
I'm in Aus and I woke up to my mother crying, I thought something had happened to my dad, then I saw the TV
whatdoyouknowaboutmytaco
In Australia I watched this play out overnight via our breaking news: from the first hit to the collapses. No one spoke at work that day.
sillyenglishknigit
I was in grade 5 at the time. I remember getting up in the morning, and seeing the towers collapsing on TV. I don't know if that was live,
or a 'replay' of it, I think it was live. But it did kinda strike me that something bad had happened. Was a weird day at school that day.
Brightandshiny
I was working in a bar a few mins from shanksville, on route 31. I remember seeing so many gov SUVs heading up the Mountain that day. At the
manysnapverywow
Did you feel the ground shake?
I heard an explosion, I thought it was a transformer blowing (there was a transformer station across the field from me)
time, we had no idea the crashes were connected until we saw our local news man on national TV reporting it.
LemonJoe
To absent friends
FROZENpyle
Glad to see the first 9/11 thing I've seen today doesn't have some stupid attempt at being funny in it
goatcheesemoon
The people jumping, I just can't. I'll be over here sniffling.
mrmojo31
The images that always really got to me were the ones showing the people choosing to jump
I'm the same
screamingshits
i know. if jumping is the better option, how horrible was it in the towers?
NeonBelly
My teacher played the video of Bush reading to the children and being told. His face went soooo grim it shook me.
Antsinpajamapants
It's weird, but it feels so dated since there aren't people taking pictures with their phones in a lot of these shots.
Weird to think how much the world has changed in 15 years.
TheLastNalbinder
I thought one of the pointing guys was taking a selfie. But yes, few people had easily accessible cameras back then.
dephress
We had easy access to cameras, we just didn't bother carrying them around constantly.
AushwitzIHadADollarEverytimeJewCallMeAntisemitic
All these pictures and they're all of the same city
andrich2k
I live 15 mins from that elementary school where Bush was speaking. Booker Elementary.
gumbokins
i remember where i was when this happened. the news was on, the kid i was with asked me what a terrorist was, i replied "a bad person"
whycantisigninwithmyotherusernamethisisstupid
High school freshmen that learn about this were not alive when it happened. In two years, kids not alive during 9/11 can join the military
SerArthurDayne151
Yes. That's how time works.
I was a high school freshman when this happened.
MacRockatansky
It was weird deploying in 2010 with guys that were 9 years old in 2001.
It was weird talking to my airman a few years ago and she let me know she was in kindergarten when it happened
I have soldiers now about that age. My youngest one currently is 21, but I had a 19 year old a couple months ago that got moved.
Yeah, I occasionally work with kids that are in tech school/AIT. Their perspective on what we do and how we do it is mind-boggling
therealpopkiller
I was 22 working at Universal Studios. They shut the parks down bc they may have been targets. Our country changed forever that surreal day
TheExperience2
The world was changed that day. Let us never forget the lives lost New York and Washington DC, nor those who made the ultimate sacrifice
in Pennsylvania. Rest easy, and know that though you are gone from this world, you have not been forgotten
ImOnTheToiletRightNow
I was in 4th grade and I remember watching as people jumped to their deaths in my classroom.
imagitivewriter
I was in kindergarten.. we didn't really understand what happened.. my teacher let some of us look up pictures of the smoke the next day.
PenisShapedPoops
Fifth grade, we were told everything but told not to tell the kindergarteners and first graders.
is that image seared into your brain now? or has it faded over the years?
8th grade. They had the tv in our school computer lab playing the news and we were allowed to come in & watch if we wanted. World changing.
forallthewins
It scary to think that those people that jumped had lost all hope of survival and came to terms with the fact they were going to die
EvilTAko955
I was 5 me and my dad walked to the train station around the corner. We saw the giant black cloud. Everyone on the train was covered w/ dust
pilotperson
There's one photo of a man doing just that, his tie streaming in the wind as he falls. Seared into my memory. Choices: death or death.
I would much rather not burn to death either. If jumping out a window to my death is the only way to prevent burning to death, I'm jumping.
tankdog420
There's a video of one guy slipping and falling while trying to get to a different window.
That one makes my feet tingle in a very uncomfortable way.
MisterOp
9/11 is so horrible. I can't imagine what it must've felt like to be there when it happened. To see a plane, flying low into the city, 1/2
and then colliding with the tower.. And then another plane came. I was lucky to be no where near NY at the time. God bless America.
aeouk
Where do you start after this? What would be the first move? Where do you look, how do you sort things. Not the issue but how did they do it
governmentgavemeagun
Responders get taught systematic thinking. Assess dangers. Prevent further loss of life. Evacuate area. Reassess dangers. Triage. Etc etc
Mentally holding fast to the rules like a mantra, while trying not to listen to that part of your mind which is freaking out.
ThatOneEskimo
iirc Sydney ambulance and police officers recently went through a training drill for if a plane does crash in the city and what the 1/2
Correct protocol would be for that situation.
Hentaii
KawaiiPutinChan
Just imagine how many different versions of this we would have from smartphones if this happened in 2016.
I for one would have put Nyan Cat on my own behalf.
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ThatAustralianKid
Up until then we didn't know what a jet flying into a building was like. Sad we had to find out like that :(
When else has a commercial jet flown straight into a building?
ImCranky
We lived in NJ/husband commuted into Manhattan by train via WTC. My son was 1 mos old as neighbor pounded door to ask about him. No calls
Could get through. So we waited. Silently as the military flew too close to talk. He saw the 2nd tower fall. Paid a crazy amt of money
Taxi and made it home. I collapsed in his arms. We sat in our basement with our son and prized possessions as the fighter jets flew by.
We could see, smell and taste the ash for weeks.
His boss made him go into work on 9/12. NYC was a different place.
KharnApproves
I'm happy he was okay.
PaulHolioTheGreat
Everything changed.
Sfinski
Everything changed for a while, then people moved on. Look at the future, not at the past.
The consequences of that day still resonate for people all over the world, particularly in the Middle East. They cant move on.
And to some there were no consequences, at all. Me being one. World is a bi place, this was only a small part of it.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not obsessed with 9/11 or anything!!
It was a pivotal moment in world history, you may not feel like it effected you personally, but post 9/11 the world changed for everyone.
Well how did it change for me then? And the rest of the world?
BelfryBats
It is hard to describe the level and sorts of confusion that went down that day.
krunchmoney
Exactly http://youtu.be/2UHhBcZxYqY
theluckysuccess
Was in college. Mom & Aunt worked near by. No cell service for many reasons. Couldn't reach anyone in NYC. Watched towers fall loosing mind.
When I came back home (ASAP!), as a New Yorker, I never felt more connected to everybody. You could walk up to anyone and talk about it.
WhatHappensInImgurStaysInImgur
I went to the museum a few weeks ago. So emotional though I was only in 2nd grade when it happened. Even more so being in NYC now.
rainbowcoloredpoop
We thought it was a joke when someone told us about the first plane. Then we turned on CNN. Just in time for the second plane. I was 12.
QuasiIntellectualChimpanzee
We assumed it was a small Cessna or something before our teacher turned on the TV. Boy were we wrong.
cornballercatapult
That morning someone told me what happened and I thought they were talking about a video game. I didn't think that would happen in real life
5SpicyCheetos
Even more people died https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/11/9-11-illnesses-death-toll?client=safari
ArtSparkle
As soon as the second plane hit, everything changed
Here's your second plane http://youtu.be/2UHhBcZxYqY
I was going to school, listening to the radio, people seemed to think it was an accident or something till that second plane.
WasThatAFartOrAShart
I was in a small group that had an 8am English class followed immediately by a 3 hour bio lab. We heard nothing about it between the two (1)
When I got back to the dorm, there was a huge crowd around the common room tv. I asked what was going on. He told me about planes hitting(2)
the towers, and then collapsing. It was so unrealistic that I moved closer in the crowd, and asked someone else what happened. When they (3)
said he same thing, that's when I realized everything had changed. That's when it sank in, and I'll never forget that feeling. (END)
artintel
Trapped people jumped from the towers to escape the fires; rescue teams died when the towers finally collapsed. It was a living nightmare.
BiteTheHandsThatThieve
I was all the way in hawaii. Sixth grade on a military base. I remember my dad getting a call and saying "Defcon what? But that means war!">
I remember no one knowing at all what was going on. We just knew that there was an attack. We got sent home from school and i saw it on the
tv. I didn't know how to comprehend that, what was going on. I just knew it was big and things would not be the same.
SayWhatYouMeanMeanWhatYouSay
Jesus Christ, that may be the scariest reaction I've ever heard for that day. I never knew what Defcon we went to.
I don't remember the number. I just know I heard him say that it meant war and worrying what it meant for him, being in the navy. Turns out
it meant he was out to sea for almost a year shortly after that.
Tacoflavouredkisses
I was around 10 years old and even then the importance of that day stuck with me. The world as we knew it changed.
mastamage
No it hasnt, enemy is still standing, we have the power to destroy earth 4 times, yet we cant deal with terrorists
StillbornGod
No, because they are not all huddled up in a desert, they are everywhere, even in your own country, and they use innocents as shields
Jadda jadda, our intelence service foiled every attempt in my country, how? Just gathering intel all the time
cleopatches
Same. Didn't even know what the twin towers were at that time, but I knew it was very bad.
Gnoside
Crazy to think out of everyone in the world it only took a few assholes to do something like this.
Assholes with a sick idea!
hisgrossness
and it only took a few ppl taking initiative and responsibility to stop them (on flight 93)
AlexVedeem
Well it only took a few assholes to say lets invade Poland and we all know how that goes
Yeah, but it took a massive army to execute it. It only took 19 men for this.
Boooooooooognish
Assholes with a plan
WithFurtherAdo
Don't forget it also took several decades of conflict to create the assholes themselves.
fufuwewe
nah just years of religious brainwashing.
Why not both?
history has shown muslims to attack first, so its less of conflict thing.(slavery and pillaging were massive issues prior to the crusades)
It's funny how religious brainwashing becomes a lot easier after your whole educational infrastructure has been bombed to ruins.
GiantRobotsRule
Weren't all of the hijackers Saudi Arabian? Did somebody bomb them?
C3POFACE
I dont care if I get downvoted to obvilion till my eyes bleed but there is no fucking way the government would be behind this.
Reigekiz
Or spying ours webcams and email....
Pleasureswell
Not complicit, but forewarned.
xladyearlgreyx
The CT initiative before 9/11 was so minimal they had no ability to correctly assess terrorism threat level or check threats for validity.
livingonagiantfireball
Believing something you cant understand make as much sense as paying for something you will never have.
DirtEOne
Isn't paying for something you will never have gift giving?
Not American but sure, not everything done is the best for everyone but really this isn't something any western gov would do...
"Was a surprise military strike by the Imperial Japanese Navy" ??
Nobody7713
There's cases when they might not have our best interests at heart, but I believe if they could have prevented this, they would have.
Counterfit
They would have made the case against Iraq regardless of this.
uowaep
True. They were already working on Iraq. But doesn't that fit the narrative?
ninjafartball
Well if we're airing our hearts despite downvotes: I will never believe this was not a controlled demolition. It's all way too shady for me.
JohnnyTitelips
Tell that to the thousands upon thousands of witnesses standing within a few blocks of it when it happened.
Yea, some witnesses said it wasn't even a commercial flight. Or the ppl who "witnessed" building 7 fall while it was still up? Shady huh?
Alright, well, I'ma let you chill with your tinfoil hat.
that MUST be it
Arawhon
That's because you're a moron who doesn't understand physics, the architecture of the buildings, or any of the factors involved.
That's an overstatement and you know it. You don't know me. And I'm no moron. Your mind is made up? Fine. Mine isn't. Have a nice day.
You claim you're not a moron, yet you say the WTC towers look like a controlled demolition.
No you said it looks like a controlled demolition. I have trouble believing that not 1 but 2 buildings collapsed to complete rubble.
I also said the whole thing is shady. Like the attack on the pentagon. Do you believe the official story? And that building 7 bullshit? WTF
SMHandSmiling
Thanks for including the PA crash-too often forgotten.
Ceramia
I was 14 when this happened. It's a day I could never forget even if I wanted to.
ladybird2223
13. This was our generation's game changer.
TallStormDragon
Let's not forget about the heroes on United Airlines Flight 93 that prevented that day from getting any worse
TheLannistersSendALovelyFruitBasket
I rely so much on dark humor and bad jokes as a coping mechanism. But I live in NY and seeing all this again...I got nothin' at all
AnswerLady
Bless the heroes of 9/11.
Raenerys
Let us never forget the heroes who rushed into the chaos and risked their lives to save complete strangers. RIP
TwoSeamer
I remember my mom in the Czech was taking me to elementary school, I couldn't figure out why she was crying. She felt with people in the US
stopridingthatpenguin
I'm in Aus and I woke up to my mother crying, I thought something had happened to my dad, then I saw the TV
whatdoyouknowaboutmytaco
In Australia I watched this play out overnight via our breaking news: from the first hit to the collapses. No one spoke at work that day.
sillyenglishknigit
I was in grade 5 at the time. I remember getting up in the morning, and seeing the towers collapsing on TV. I don't know if that was live,
sillyenglishknigit
or a 'replay' of it, I think it was live. But it did kinda strike me that something bad had happened. Was a weird day at school that day.
Brightandshiny
I was working in a bar a few mins from shanksville, on route 31. I remember seeing so many gov SUVs heading up the Mountain that day. At the
manysnapverywow
Did you feel the ground shake?
Brightandshiny
I heard an explosion, I thought it was a transformer blowing (there was a transformer station across the field from me)
Brightandshiny
time, we had no idea the crashes were connected until we saw our local news man on national TV reporting it.
LemonJoe
To absent friends
FROZENpyle
Glad to see the first 9/11 thing I've seen today doesn't have some stupid attempt at being funny in it
goatcheesemoon
The people jumping, I just can't. I'll be over here sniffling.
mrmojo31
The images that always really got to me were the ones showing the people choosing to jump
stopridingthatpenguin
I'm the same
screamingshits
i know. if jumping is the better option, how horrible was it in the towers?
NeonBelly
My teacher played the video of Bush reading to the children and being told. His face went soooo grim it shook me.
Antsinpajamapants
It's weird, but it feels so dated since there aren't people taking pictures with their phones in a lot of these shots.
ladybird2223
Weird to think how much the world has changed in 15 years.
TheLastNalbinder
I thought one of the pointing guys was taking a selfie. But yes, few people had easily accessible cameras back then.
dephress
We had easy access to cameras, we just didn't bother carrying them around constantly.
AushwitzIHadADollarEverytimeJewCallMeAntisemitic
All these pictures and they're all of the same city
andrich2k
I live 15 mins from that elementary school where Bush was speaking. Booker Elementary.
gumbokins
i remember where i was when this happened. the news was on, the kid i was with asked me what a terrorist was, i replied "a bad person"
whycantisigninwithmyotherusernamethisisstupid
High school freshmen that learn about this were not alive when it happened. In two years, kids not alive during 9/11 can join the military
SerArthurDayne151
Yes. That's how time works.
Ceramia
I was a high school freshman when this happened.
MacRockatansky
It was weird deploying in 2010 with guys that were 9 years old in 2001.
whycantisigninwithmyotherusernamethisisstupid
It was weird talking to my airman a few years ago and she let me know she was in kindergarten when it happened
MacRockatansky
I have soldiers now about that age. My youngest one currently is 21, but I had a 19 year old a couple months ago that got moved.
whycantisigninwithmyotherusernamethisisstupid
Yeah, I occasionally work with kids that are in tech school/AIT. Their perspective on what we do and how we do it is mind-boggling
therealpopkiller
I was 22 working at Universal Studios. They shut the parks down bc they may have been targets. Our country changed forever that surreal day
TheExperience2
The world was changed that day. Let us never forget the lives lost New York and Washington DC, nor those who made the ultimate sacrifice
TheExperience2
in Pennsylvania. Rest easy, and know that though you are gone from this world, you have not been forgotten
ImOnTheToiletRightNow
I was in 4th grade and I remember watching as people jumped to their deaths in my classroom.
imagitivewriter
I was in kindergarten.. we didn't really understand what happened.. my teacher let some of us look up pictures of the smoke the next day.
PenisShapedPoops
Fifth grade, we were told everything but told not to tell the kindergarteners and first graders.
screamingshits
is that image seared into your brain now? or has it faded over the years?
ladybird2223
8th grade. They had the tv in our school computer lab playing the news and we were allowed to come in & watch if we wanted. World changing.
forallthewins
It scary to think that those people that jumped had lost all hope of survival and came to terms with the fact they were going to die
EvilTAko955
I was 5 me and my dad walked to the train station around the corner. We saw the giant black cloud. Everyone on the train was covered w/ dust
pilotperson
There's one photo of a man doing just that, his tie streaming in the wind as he falls. Seared into my memory. Choices: death or death.
Ceramia
I would much rather not burn to death either. If jumping out a window to my death is the only way to prevent burning to death, I'm jumping.
tankdog420
There's a video of one guy slipping and falling while trying to get to a different window.
PenisShapedPoops
That one makes my feet tingle in a very uncomfortable way.
MisterOp
9/11 is so horrible. I can't imagine what it must've felt like to be there when it happened. To see a plane, flying low into the city, 1/2
MisterOp
and then colliding with the tower.. And then another plane came. I was lucky to be no where near NY at the time. God bless America.
aeouk
Where do you start after this? What would be the first move? Where do you look, how do you sort things. Not the issue but how did they do it
governmentgavemeagun
Responders get taught systematic thinking. Assess dangers. Prevent further loss of life. Evacuate area. Reassess dangers. Triage. Etc etc
governmentgavemeagun
Mentally holding fast to the rules like a mantra, while trying not to listen to that part of your mind which is freaking out.
ThatOneEskimo
iirc Sydney ambulance and police officers recently went through a training drill for if a plane does crash in the city and what the 1/2
ThatOneEskimo
Correct protocol would be for that situation.
Hentaii
KawaiiPutinChan
Just imagine how many different versions of this we would have from smartphones if this happened in 2016.
Hentaii
I for one would have put Nyan Cat on my own behalf.
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ThatAustralianKid
Up until then we didn't know what a jet flying into a building was like. Sad we had to find out like that :(
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ThatAustralianKid
When else has a commercial jet flown straight into a building?
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ImCranky
We lived in NJ/husband commuted into Manhattan by train via WTC. My son was 1 mos old as neighbor pounded door to ask about him. No calls
ImCranky
Could get through. So we waited. Silently as the military flew too close to talk. He saw the 2nd tower fall. Paid a crazy amt of money
ImCranky
Taxi and made it home. I collapsed in his arms. We sat in our basement with our son and prized possessions as the fighter jets flew by.
ImCranky
We could see, smell and taste the ash for weeks.
ImCranky
His boss made him go into work on 9/12. NYC was a different place.
KharnApproves
I'm happy he was okay.
PaulHolioTheGreat
Everything changed.
Sfinski
Everything changed for a while, then people moved on. Look at the future, not at the past.
PaulHolioTheGreat
The consequences of that day still resonate for people all over the world, particularly in the Middle East. They cant move on.
Sfinski
And to some there were no consequences, at all. Me being one. World is a bi place, this was only a small part of it.
PaulHolioTheGreat
Don't get me wrong, I'm not obsessed with 9/11 or anything!!
PaulHolioTheGreat
It was a pivotal moment in world history, you may not feel like it effected you personally, but post 9/11 the world changed for everyone.
Sfinski
Well how did it change for me then? And the rest of the world?
BelfryBats
It is hard to describe the level and sorts of confusion that went down that day.
krunchmoney
Exactly http://youtu.be/2UHhBcZxYqY
theluckysuccess
Was in college. Mom & Aunt worked near by. No cell service for many reasons. Couldn't reach anyone in NYC. Watched towers fall loosing mind.
theluckysuccess
When I came back home (ASAP!), as a New Yorker, I never felt more connected to everybody. You could walk up to anyone and talk about it.
WhatHappensInImgurStaysInImgur
I went to the museum a few weeks ago. So emotional though I was only in 2nd grade when it happened. Even more so being in NYC now.
rainbowcoloredpoop
We thought it was a joke when someone told us about the first plane. Then we turned on CNN. Just in time for the second plane. I was 12.
QuasiIntellectualChimpanzee
We assumed it was a small Cessna or something before our teacher turned on the TV. Boy were we wrong.
cornballercatapult
That morning someone told me what happened and I thought they were talking about a video game. I didn't think that would happen in real life
5SpicyCheetos
Even more people died https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/11/9-11-illnesses-death-toll?client=safari
TwoSeamer
I remember my mom in the Czech was taking me to elementary school, I couldn't figure out why she was crying. She felt with people in the US
ArtSparkle
As soon as the second plane hit, everything changed
krunchmoney
Here's your second plane http://youtu.be/2UHhBcZxYqY
BelfryBats
I was going to school, listening to the radio, people seemed to think it was an accident or something till that second plane.
WasThatAFartOrAShart
I was in a small group that had an 8am English class followed immediately by a 3 hour bio lab. We heard nothing about it between the two (1)
WasThatAFartOrAShart
When I got back to the dorm, there was a huge crowd around the common room tv. I asked what was going on. He told me about planes hitting(2)
WasThatAFartOrAShart
the towers, and then collapsing. It was so unrealistic that I moved closer in the crowd, and asked someone else what happened. When they (3)
WasThatAFartOrAShart
said he same thing, that's when I realized everything had changed. That's when it sank in, and I'll never forget that feeling. (END)
artintel
Trapped people jumped from the towers to escape the fires; rescue teams died when the towers finally collapsed. It was a living nightmare.
BiteTheHandsThatThieve
I was all the way in hawaii. Sixth grade on a military base. I remember my dad getting a call and saying "Defcon what? But that means war!">
BiteTheHandsThatThieve
I remember no one knowing at all what was going on. We just knew that there was an attack. We got sent home from school and i saw it on the
BiteTheHandsThatThieve
tv. I didn't know how to comprehend that, what was going on. I just knew it was big and things would not be the same.
SayWhatYouMeanMeanWhatYouSay
Jesus Christ, that may be the scariest reaction I've ever heard for that day. I never knew what Defcon we went to.
BiteTheHandsThatThieve
I don't remember the number. I just know I heard him say that it meant war and worrying what it meant for him, being in the navy. Turns out
BiteTheHandsThatThieve
it meant he was out to sea for almost a year shortly after that.
Tacoflavouredkisses
I was around 10 years old and even then the importance of that day stuck with me. The world as we knew it changed.
mastamage
No it hasnt, enemy is still standing, we have the power to destroy earth 4 times, yet we cant deal with terrorists
StillbornGod
No, because they are not all huddled up in a desert, they are everywhere, even in your own country, and they use innocents as shields
mastamage
Jadda jadda, our intelence service foiled every attempt in my country, how? Just gathering intel all the time
cleopatches
Same. Didn't even know what the twin towers were at that time, but I knew it was very bad.
Gnoside
Crazy to think out of everyone in the world it only took a few assholes to do something like this.
AnswerLady
Assholes with a sick idea!
hisgrossness
and it only took a few ppl taking initiative and responsibility to stop them (on flight 93)
AlexVedeem
Well it only took a few assholes to say lets invade Poland and we all know how that goes
MacRockatansky
Yeah, but it took a massive army to execute it. It only took 19 men for this.
Boooooooooognish
Assholes with a plan
WithFurtherAdo
Don't forget it also took several decades of conflict to create the assholes themselves.
fufuwewe
nah just years of religious brainwashing.
StillbornGod
Why not both?
fufuwewe
history has shown muslims to attack first, so its less of conflict thing.(slavery and pillaging were massive issues prior to the crusades)
WithFurtherAdo
It's funny how religious brainwashing becomes a lot easier after your whole educational infrastructure has been bombed to ruins.
GiantRobotsRule
Weren't all of the hijackers Saudi Arabian? Did somebody bomb them?
C3POFACE
I dont care if I get downvoted to obvilion till my eyes bleed but there is no fucking way the government would be behind this.
Reigekiz
Or spying ours webcams and email....
Pleasureswell
Not complicit, but forewarned.
xladyearlgreyx
The CT initiative before 9/11 was so minimal they had no ability to correctly assess terrorism threat level or check threats for validity.
livingonagiantfireball
Believing something you cant understand make as much sense as paying for something you will never have.
DirtEOne
Isn't paying for something you will never have gift giving?
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ThatAustralianKid
Not American but sure, not everything done is the best for everyone but really this isn't something any western gov would do...
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ThatAustralianKid
"Was a surprise military strike by the Imperial Japanese Navy" ??
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Nobody7713
There's cases when they might not have our best interests at heart, but I believe if they could have prevented this, they would have.
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Counterfit
They would have made the case against Iraq regardless of this.
uowaep
True. They were already working on Iraq. But doesn't that fit the narrative?
ninjafartball
Well if we're airing our hearts despite downvotes: I will never believe this was not a controlled demolition. It's all way too shady for me.
JohnnyTitelips
Tell that to the thousands upon thousands of witnesses standing within a few blocks of it when it happened.
ninjafartball
Yea, some witnesses said it wasn't even a commercial flight. Or the ppl who "witnessed" building 7 fall while it was still up? Shady huh?
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JohnnyTitelips
Alright, well, I'ma let you chill with your tinfoil hat.
ninjafartball
that MUST be it
Arawhon
That's because you're a moron who doesn't understand physics, the architecture of the buildings, or any of the factors involved.
ninjafartball
That's an overstatement and you know it. You don't know me. And I'm no moron. Your mind is made up? Fine. Mine isn't. Have a nice day.
Counterfit
You claim you're not a moron, yet you say the WTC towers look like a controlled demolition.
ninjafartball
No you said it looks like a controlled demolition. I have trouble believing that not 1 but 2 buildings collapsed to complete rubble.
ninjafartball
I also said the whole thing is shady. Like the attack on the pentagon. Do you believe the official story? And that building 7 bullshit? WTF