I'm Canadian and consider myself lucky. My grandfather found employment in Detroit and my grandmother refused to move to America. So they moved to Windsor and he drove across the border every day. But I'm actually scared living above America. If Canada and America were a stacked duplex, the Canadian family would leave the house an hour early every day to avoid the people running a meth lab out of the first floor who fire automatics at passersby and wear KKK robes and swastikas armbands.
As someone in the US: the news reports you guys are getting don't even come close to what's happening over here. It's worse. And so many of us are tired of putting out the proverbial fires while others in the country try to set more.
America is a country built by and on tax evasion..why would anyone expect that it would be anything good or sustainable? It's only lasted this long by fucking over everyone else and now that there's no natives left to steal resources from and the other countries figured out the game, there's nowhere else to go but right down the toilet.
I never got treated for a lazy eye I've had since childhood that I've simply trained myself to work against... Because it would have broken the bank for my family and we were always struggling.
I like my country, but I'd be a lot happier if New England could just make it's own country since we're so different politically than most other areas. The USA is too big to be governed properly, but I do enjoy having access to so many different climates to easily travel or move to. We also need some damn high speed train systems, I hate all this driving!
Irish here and I very much see being European and being part of the EU as part of my identity. Yes, defo issues that need to be worked on and keeping extremism in check, but when I see the abortion and drag queen laws in US, it's a whole level of crazy Talibanesque leadership.
Yeah, "The South" is pretty bad right now, and the federal government isn't doing anything to adress it. Meanwhile, Maine is safe and has rights. There has always been a divide. Reading W.E.B. Dubois, and he was saying growing up in New England sheltered him from a lot of the shittiness, 100 years ago
Last year, I travelled to Europe for the first time in 30 years, and have been back a couple times since; experiencing nations that properly invest in and fund improvements to both their infrastructure and social services, and then I return to America after seeing that… it is immensely depressing.
As a european, I AM happy not to be in the States right now. But based on my (albeit limited) experience, I feel like americans tend vastly overestimate the patriotism of europeans. Mostly we hate it here too. xD
I mean, yeah obviously it's better to live in the Oligarchy if you're an Oligarch. But even though I can get triple my pay in the US, I'd much rather live and raise a family in Europe.
The raising a family part is a game-changer. Here in the states obviously you have to worry about the gun violence, but also, many very common health problems could completely ruin your financial stability in the blink of an eye
We already have nationwide media and sports and speak the same language. If that didn't bring us unity then a song contest would certainly not do any better.
So pleased I'm on this side of the Atlantic... I love the States, and the people I've met over there have been lovely, but the way the country has gone in the last few years has filled me with a sense of disappointment and concern.
Tbf the "patriots" are happy the US isn't like the EU. And EVERYONE is happy we aren't America. Unfortunately American politics are like foot fungus-contagious and you don't know it's a problem until BOOM it's a whole thing and it's gross
A true Democracy REQUIRES a well informedelectirate, and Republicans have systematically been destroying public education for the past 40 years. Now we are 50% of us too lazy and too stupid to govern ourselves.
Nobody mistakes me for an USA citizen. I can speak for myself only, and say that calling a country like a full continent is not ok. But what can I do? When I say I'm American too, I mean I'm from the same continent, but usually I get strange looks.
I remember posts like this whenever I am told to 'just leave' the US if I want to so badly. No one will ever take me in specifically because I was born in the blighted country. Add to that a lack of finances, education, and medical issues and the idea of trying to emigrate is laughable. No matter what anyone says or thinks...
If you're queer Canada is currently working to grant refugee status to Americans who flee. Though tbf, Canada loves immigrants, we accepted 431,645 new permanent residents on 2022.
As a michigan resident with friends over the border I can assure you that emigrating is not as easy as it was in my parents generation. My medical issues and lack of work history preclude me from emigrating. I've tried. I will try again. It will amount to nothing.
Its actually the easiest time to immigrate since 1902. That was the last time we had these numbers/level of approvals to applications. Canada reduced the barriers for people with disabilities 5fold as of 2018 and increased its commitment to accepting disabled refugees.
If thats the case my next attempt may be a more hopeful one. But as it stands the Canadian governments website only promotes initiatives for migrant workers and skilled professionals to apply for entry. The only thing I ever qualified as was a drafter and I am ten years out of date. Without an official reason to be accepted the chances of approval when appealing for entry are low. I speak from experience.
I live in Brazil and usually joke that whatever happens in the US soon makes its way over here. For instance, trump, right-wingers, gun nuts and congress invaders. :|
Yuuuup, their stupid fucking ideas seep in to european politics. We have our own issues, fuck off with you weird genital obsession, and your inability to read a fucking book.
Canada too. Alberta just elected some moron who and I quote "wishes we could have the freedom to do what Florida is doing" which is the most fashy nonsense I've heard in a while from this country.
Ewww. It's been legal here since the 60s and publicly funded since the 80s here. I'm sure some right wing twits gonna try to do the same here soon enough. Absolutely disturbing
(it's amazing some pedantic fuck didn't already respond "achhktually 3rd world means non aligned and america is 1st world" because they can't fathom meanings can change over time)
Honestly, as an American, I love my country. But it is increasingly beholden to religious conservatives who are ruining it. Europe is the part of the world that is carrying humanity forward and it is painful that we here in the US are no longer leading that advance. I hate seeing hate ruin things here.
I think you're half right. The religious conservatives are coming for us for sure. I'd also say that the far left snowflakes are coming for us. Whether it's the religious conservatives trying to censor us or the leftist trying to censor us over their feelings the point is free speech is going out the window. Everything's a trigger at this point. I'm tired of walking on eggshells around fragile people.
Personally I feel like if the left would just stop with the intersectionality bingo. We could get back on track and push back against the Nazis. The left is now divided. We have the far left with the crybabies and then you have the left leaners like myself who's wondering when you're going to get up and start helping us push these Nazis back.
Well, that is exactly a lot of the problem. The right unifies behind candidates while the left still in fights. I feel if we rallied better wed beat the crap out of them easily. But too busy fighting each other.
I used to be very left. Now I'm in no party. I think of the right as a bunch of Nazis using religion for their crusade. They think they have the moral high ground but they actually don't. For me the left is more of a bunch of spoiled brats that have never been spanked in their life as children. Almost narcissistic in expecting everyone else to cater to their feelings. That's a psychiatrist job. Their parents didn't raise them right and now they're so fragile they think words are violence.
Sadly no room for moderates in a world of 24x7 news coverage. Anyone who cooperates or even creates a win-win deal is crucified. But we need a more cooperative moderate stance to work out real deals.
that's another problem: they have/are spoon fed by every single media in a way or another that they are the best in the world. no need to improve something if you're the best at it, and the cultural self centrism compounded by the propaganda makes it so that they won't look how it's done outside
Yes and no. The worst Americans won't ever shut up talking about their European heritage, how that makes them the heirs of Rome and the Vikings, and stuff, and how that makes them better than others. They also boast about going on vacation there. What they don't like is contemporary European politics and ideals.
We don't think about actual real modern European life one bit. We're actually backwards in the US and stuck imagining Europe as it was during the late 19th and early 20th century emigrations.
Muhahahar! Feeling sad for the US? Muhahahahahar! They actively decided to abolish democracy (citizens united) and are satisfied with those two undemocratic, end stage capitalistic parties they have. They deserve it. Just like Afghanistan deserves the taliban. They had several chances, they want them.
1985 they were armed by the bc US. 2022, the Afghan army and police surrendered their equipment to them. Nobody fought them. They were welcomed. They deserve to get what they asked for.
This is easy to say if you do not live in a country where war has been raging for more than 30 years. Thousands of civilians died every year, in some cases even more by the US and its allies than by the Taliban. The Taliban are terrible and people will certainly have fewer freedoms, but I can understand the Afghans being tired of all the killing, bombing and fighting. One refugee, I work with told me it would be better to live in peace and see his children growing up than to be free.
Und inwiefern lässt sich das vergleichen? Auch meine Urgroßväter und ein Großvater mit 15 waren bei der Wehrmacht. Ich verstehe aber nicht wo du da die Parallelen ziehst, zwischen den USA, Afghanistan und dem dritten Reich...
Ach, weiß es wieder. Der dude meinte es wäre unvorstellbar in der Situation zu leben, in Afghanistan, quasi machtlos als einzelner. Der einzelne trägt quasi keine Verantwortung. Dem gegenüber steht dass jeder einzelne von uns deutschen die Verantwortung trägt, für das was aus taten entstand, deren Urheber 3 Generationen vor mir lebten. Tl/dr: für das jetzt trägt scheinbar keiner Verantwortung, für die Geschichte alle (Nachkommen)
Citizens united was the supreme court which us citizens do not directly vote in anyway. The system also does not utilize ranked choice voting and voter suppression is rampant. All you have demonstrated is your ability to sling shit. I suppose life must be good if youve naught else to do.
It goes back to the 14th amendment. While freeing slaves, created a loophole that corporations were also granted person hood. Since a corporation can't talk, money is their speech.
Eh, as a European i can say that I just feel bad for the average citizens in the states, regarding health care and diminishing freedoms in some states. But I’m certainly not judging since we’re here up shit creek with no paddle in some regards too.
Ugh and you know what drives the constant suppression of freedom and inability for anyone who isn’t rich to get ahead is that for almost all corporations “profits are more important than people” also conservatives have been tricked into defending billionaires and corporations even though it’s the exact reason why THEIR quality of life hasn’t gotten better and has actually gotten worse.
I mean, yes. I just checked what rights I have concerning being trans. HOLY SHIT AM I GLAD I LIVE WHERE I DO! I have so many rights I won't get in most of the USA, let alone an oppressive Nazi shithole like Florida. Sure, things could be better, but I count my wins when I can.
Talk to my relatives in EU daily. It's not any better or worse. Same shit. Crooked politicians abound. Medical problems, over crowding, poverty migration. I am scared of the MAGA cult and their grand wizards. But EU should worry about Putin and nationalism too.
Oh fuck yes. I wish there was a country that wasn't fucked. I guess the closest is like Finland or Norway. But all have countries have corruption and billionaires or millionaires. I'm also pissed about how we went away from nuclear power...
Considering how casually most EU citizens heap scorn upon all of us who are trapped in the states this sentiment is unheard of. At least on Imgur. Thank you. It means a lot to see it said.
Appreciated, but don’t feel to bad, we dug (still digging in some areas) our own graves. We are dangerously close to needing a French style revolution against our politicians in order to fix it. Just make sure to keep away from our disaster area until the smoke clears >.<
You could argue that an american would be happer than a Euro since apart from alaska, they arent in the immediate vicinity of Putler and his shenanigans. Then again, americans ARE right next to... other americans and their shenanigans and that might be worse in some ways.
America is headed towards fascism in a very real way. The gop attempted a coup and failed, but wasn't punished so they will be continuing the coup soon.
Yes but that shit creek is tied to US and probably literally too. At least one Republicanesque politician and Pegida gaining traction. I'd say it's only about muslims because bashing jews is forbidden. That Koran burning is just a dogwhistle racism. And provocative shit towards shittiest people so when they do their expected shit they'll be like oh look they're bad news as we foretold! Exact same behavior we've seen with covid pandemic us election.
There is a lot going wrong here in the EU, but I prefer our problems to their problems. And one of my biggest fears is that we seem to imitate a lot of stuff from over the pond, for example conservatives going fucking nuts at the moment.
In times of rapid change and uncertainty, people get scared. Frightened people are desperate for security, and are especially prone to propaganda that promises a return to "the good old days." They also retreat to the comfort of in-groups, and are easily convinced that out-groups are responsible for all their troubles. People like Trump, Putin, Le Pen, the AfD in Germany, Brexiteers in the UK, Bolsanero in Brazil, Duterte in the Philippines, and so on all thrive in such an environment.
I travel for work and can confirm, its unsettling how people abroad seem to imitate American “stereotypes”, blindly denigrating their own culture in the mean time. I can even see it here at home.
Trump was and is a manifestation of latent (or not so latent) societal flaws in the US. And to the extent that people in your country may have been influenced by a politician a world away, well that can only be a reflection of similar inherent flaws at home. If it makes you feel better to blame outside sources for inside problems, knock yourself out. Americans can similarly try to blame Russian disinformation, but again the seeds only grow when planted in fertile ground.
It's still not nearly as bad as the 1930s, but many of us are getting a 1920s vibe and keeping a very close eye on it so it. What is equally fun is that it's more populism than plain right wingism, in Ireland many people are proud there is no significant right wing scary party, but ignore that the main opposition party is left wing populist. Hungary and Poland are worrying though. Turkey has gone properly mad.
Also Romania might switch to rightwing, mostly because of EU not accepting it in Schengen, but also because the current coalition fails in many different ways(corruption is one of them), and the only party that didn't taste power so far is AUR, and the polls say they got significantly higher popularity than last elections, when the party was just created.
I'd much rather have a left-wing populist like Sinn Fein than a right-wing populist like Fidesz or PiS. Sinn Fein aren't going to remove LGBT rights, or outlaw abortion, or any of the insane shit right-wing parties do. And it's not really that surprising how SF is growing in popularity, considering the absolutely failure of the Neoliberal parties for young people.
My concern with Sinn Fein would be giving a party with recent links to terrorism access to the Ministry of Justice, in particular documents relating IRA informants. And while their LGBT credentials are fine, their links to Russia and their anti immigrant language is troubling. One can understand opposition to the Irish Government parties, but support for Labour or the Social Democrats would be far less dangerous
Actually, I may be mistaken, it would appear individual members and supporters of Sinn Fein might be anti-immigrant and not necessarily the party itself. Anyone with more information please feel free to comment
Do you mean far-rightism? Normal right-wing politics has always been widespread in most European countries. It is far-right/far-left that has been unacceptable.
If complications while giving birth cost less than buying a house and I can be reasonably sure that the kid will come home alive from school, that's all I need.
I just got back to the US from Europe, and there is a much different feel, what I would summarize as surviving vs flourishing. People in the US are taught to get by, or fight for the necessary amount of resources (and if you are lazy, you don't deserve them), where in western European countries, the expectation of what a human needs to live a full life is considered.
It's a tragedy that many murders could be prevented with better gun controls, but it's really not something so common that you should be living in constant fear.
It's a real brain twister why those with training require more skills and the ability to think on their feet compared to "here's your badge, youire a cop now" has different outcomes.
That was one of my biggest fears when I was there on vacation. When you have no gun around you you feel way more secure and free, maybe it's a cultural thing but I don't get it when people say freedom is having guns everywhere...
I feel this. “Don’t fuck with a person you don’t know, you never know what they are capable of” is a phrase I picked up in high school and I tell my kids. Anyone could have a gun, anyone could be willing to use it. I have had guns pulled on me many a time. It’s the scared people to be afraid of, they are a dime a dozen and think the gun gives them power. God I hate this timeline…
It has been an extremely successful brainwashing campaign. The indoctrination has been taking place for at least three decades. And I'm basing that strictly on But I personally witnessed in my life.
They are talking about the freedom to kill others on a whim, not more, not less. The sheer number of gunowners online who say things like “i wish they would” or “if it was me..” kind of stuff is astounding. Its not about self defense, its about legally killing someone, sometimes at the smallest possible excuse.
Yes - Uvalde...I wish they would have killed that shooter immediately....and if it was me, 130# and unarmed, I would have run in that classroom before I realized my kids would 85% lose their mom. Is that what you mean? I didn't understand your comment correctly probably.
And hunting. I keep a pistol on me for quickdraw in case a bear or pack of wolves. Mostly to shoot in the air to scare them off, but it's also in case of self defense in a way :P
Foreign media definitely likes to play it up as well as a part of their own propaganda. Here in Japan I heard more about violence against Asian Americans than I did in my own AAPI community in the States.
At the start of COVID I heard about it a lot here in the states. I live in South Carolina so not exactly the highest AA population here, but even we had incidents
That's interesting. We (in Canada) had a foreign exchange student from Japan and he was very concerned about anti Asian sentiment (it's the West coast, and it's not 1890 any more, it's very, very small). It's it something the Japanese media focuses on a lot?
explosivepotatosalad
I remember when Europe used to look up to the US as a model for prosperity and democracy. It’s sad to see how things have changed.
DownUnderDanny
DamnThursdays
I'm Canadian and consider myself lucky. My grandfather found employment in Detroit and my grandmother refused to move to America. So they moved to Windsor and he drove across the border every day. But I'm actually scared living above America. If Canada and America were a stacked duplex, the Canadian family would leave the house an hour early every day to avoid the people running a meth lab out of the first floor who fire automatics at passersby and wear KKK robes and swastikas armbands.
SerenePrincess013
As someone in the US: the news reports you guys are getting don't even come close to what's happening over here. It's worse. And so many of us are tired of putting out the proverbial fires while others in the country try to set more.
SirBillington
America is a country built by and on tax evasion..why would anyone expect that it would be anything good or sustainable? It's only lasted this long by fucking over everyone else and now that there's no natives left to steal resources from and the other countries figured out the game, there's nowhere else to go but right down the toilet.
FajitaPrinceofAllMexicans
I never got treated for a lazy eye I've had since childhood that I've simply trained myself to work against... Because it would have broken the bank for my family and we were always struggling.
zacknotzatch
Yup, as an American who's made their home in Europe, can confirm.
mechanicallyreclined
I like my country, but I'd be a lot happier if New England could just make it's own country since we're so different politically than most other areas. The USA is too big to be governed properly, but I do enjoy having access to so many different climates to easily travel or move to. We also need some damn high speed train systems, I hate all this driving!
jzastrow
Yeah the US has problems but out of 193 countries in the UN there's only a few I'd rather move to. No place is perfect
dellyx12
Irish here and I very much see being European and being part of the EU as part of my identity. Yes, defo issues that need to be worked on and keeping extremism in check, but when I see the abortion and drag queen laws in US, it's a whole level of crazy Talibanesque leadership.
Crimesawastin
Yeah, "The South" is pretty bad right now, and the federal government isn't doing anything to adress it. Meanwhile, Maine is safe and has rights. There has always been a divide. Reading W.E.B. Dubois, and he was saying growing up in New England sheltered him from a lot of the shittiness, 100 years ago
YippeeKayakOB
Yup, European, can confirm
Vergenbuurg
Last year, I travelled to Europe for the first time in 30 years, and have been back a couple times since; experiencing nations that properly invest in and fund improvements to both their infrastructure and social services, and then I return to America after seeing that… it is immensely depressing.
ThisIsMyUsernameThereAreManyLikeIt
As a european, I AM happy not to be in the States right now. But based on my (albeit limited) experience, I feel like americans tend vastly overestimate the patriotism of europeans. Mostly we hate it here too. xD
Jinxies
Canada's not doing all that well either.
WhereIsDinner
As an American, I’m happy to not be EU but happy the folks in the EU are happy too.
AgainstMethod
This was definitely written with specific EU countries in mind and specific other ones very much out of mind.
stoicfibre
Eh, if I was a loaded person, money wise, I'd definitely prefer the states, but as an average man with a better than average pay, I'm glad I'm in eu
AoShin
I mean, yeah obviously it's better to live in the Oligarchy if you're an Oligarch. But even though I can get triple my pay in the US, I'd much rather live and raise a family in Europe.
demagreg365
The raising a family part is a game-changer. Here in the states obviously you have to worry about the gun violence, but also, many very common health problems could completely ruin your financial stability in the blink of an eye
Rendova
Why does America have not a Eurovision style song contest for states/territories? Isn't the concept to build unity?
Shoutrr
because you may not like it, but you all share the basic same culture
eetsumkaus
We already have nationwide media and sports and speak the same language. If that didn't bring us unity then a song contest would certainly not do any better.
gallowglacht
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Song_Contest you kinda gave it a half-arsed shot.
TheSupremeCrabMaster
Europeans whenever the Roma do literally anything:
youareagreatguybut
As an EU citizen, I love it here. There's some shit going on here too ofc, but compared to almost everywhere else, EU's awesome.
minant
As an EU citizen living in the UK, [incoherent screaming noises].
mormacil
Come back home, we got support networks for that.
ChloeRed
Is that a different incoherent screaming noise to that which those of us who were born here are making?
BiffaBoffa
So pleased I'm on this side of the Atlantic... I love the States, and the people I've met over there have been lovely, but the way the country has gone in the last few years has filled me with a sense of disappointment and concern.
FistsofSnake
Oh yes, it's important to diference people and countries. In every place you can find good and bad people
AlwaysAwkwardYup
Iim confident that the rest of world is happy it’s not the USA
Shmefalops
I wish I was still European
Megamastermetamememaker
What happened ?
ArcanineIChooseYou
Brexit reference at a guess. It's been the disaster we all knew it would be.
IndigoThursday
Me too
SankariSuomi
As an Australian, nothing has made me realise how fortunate I am to live in Australia than my visits to the US.
NotyouGuillermo
Tbf the "patriots" are happy the US isn't like the EU. And EVERYONE is happy we aren't America. Unfortunately American politics are like foot fungus-contagious and you don't know it's a problem until BOOM it's a whole thing and it's gross
EvrGreen7
casbott
We've only just recently gotten rid of our Trump bootlicking government in Australia.
PrincessWendyB
A true Democracy REQUIRES a well informedelectirate, and Republicans have systematically been destroying public education for the past 40 years. Now we are 50% of us too lazy and too stupid to govern ourselves.
Elsuave
I am from Uruguay, and I resent that a country is called like a whole continent. I'm American too.
NotyouGuillermo
I get that. USAmericans stole the name from 57 countries and ruined it.
Elsuave
They didn't ruined it, it's just an imperial thing I resent
NotyouGuillermo
If they didn't ruin it, people wouldn't resent being called it by accident. No one's getting upset being mistaken for a Canadian.
Elsuave
Nobody mistakes me for an USA citizen. I can speak for myself only, and say that calling a country like a full continent is not ok. But what can I do? When I say I'm American too, I mean I'm from the same continent, but usually I get strange looks.
AdrianDunne
Yeah, I think people would be much happier if US politics was completely isolated from EU politics.
SeekerOfFire
I remember posts like this whenever I am told to 'just leave' the US if I want to so badly. No one will ever take me in specifically because I was born in the blighted country. Add to that a lack of finances, education, and medical issues and the idea of trying to emigrate is laughable. No matter what anyone says or thinks...
NotyouGuillermo
If you're queer Canada is currently working to grant refugee status to Americans who flee. Though tbf, Canada loves immigrants, we accepted 431,645 new permanent residents on 2022.
SeekerOfFire
As a michigan resident with friends over the border I can assure you that emigrating is not as easy as it was in my parents generation. My medical issues and lack of work history preclude me from emigrating. I've tried. I will try again. It will amount to nothing.
Cappinskullz
Just sneak past the border then claim asylum. Seems to work for people going into the US
NotyouGuillermo
Its actually the easiest time to immigrate since 1902. That was the last time we had these numbers/level of approvals to applications. Canada reduced the barriers for people with disabilities 5fold as of 2018 and increased its commitment to accepting disabled refugees.
SeekerOfFire
If thats the case my next attempt may be a more hopeful one. But as it stands the Canadian governments website only promotes initiatives for migrant workers and skilled professionals to apply for entry. The only thing I ever qualified as was a drafter and I am ten years out of date. Without an official reason to be accepted the chances of approval when appealing for entry are low. I speak from experience.
AshenRaine
I live in Brazil and usually joke that whatever happens in the US soon makes its way over here. For instance, trump, right-wingers, gun nuts and congress invaders. :|
AshenRaine
Oh, and we're getting school shootings and corporatism now too! >:|
WeSingLalaWhileTheDevilDoesTheChaCha
Yuuuup, their stupid fucking ideas seep in to european politics. We have our own issues, fuck off with you weird genital obsession, and your inability to read a fucking book.
TheAngryMarineBiologist
Stupid ideas as well as massive amounts of money flowing into the pockets of the most insane politicians throughout Europe
NotyouGuillermo
Canada too. Alberta just elected some moron who and I quote "wishes we could have the freedom to do what Florida is doing" which is the most fashy nonsense I've heard in a while from this country.
WeSingLalaWhileTheDevilDoesTheChaCha
We have right wing idiots trying to reopen our abortion debate, something we codified in law in 1972.
NotyouGuillermo
Ewww. It's been legal here since the 60s and publicly funded since the 80s here. I'm sure some right wing twits gonna try to do the same here soon enough. Absolutely disturbing
oaberbyamd
Free health care free compulsory education. Give me that and you get a winner
TheFastpaws
Ya, the US is a giant shithole.
annoyingpeoplewithmyheathencomments
yes because 300+ million people can be clumped into one stereotype
Cats4Tacos
*Laughs in 3rd world*
TheFastpaws
The US is multiple third world nations in a trenchcoat pretending to be first world.
Shoutrr
(it's amazing some pedantic fuck didn't already respond "achhktually 3rd world means non aligned and america is 1st world" because they can't fathom meanings can change over time)
TheFastpaws
Ya, at this stage the meaning has evolved beyond that but they don't get it. Hence why they are pedantic fucks.
Fauxcused
Honestly, as an American, I love my country. But it is increasingly beholden to religious conservatives who are ruining it. Europe is the part of the world that is carrying humanity forward and it is painful that we here in the US are no longer leading that advance. I hate seeing hate ruin things here.
Flyspyro
I think you're half right. The religious conservatives are coming for us for sure. I'd also say that the far left snowflakes are coming for us. Whether it's the religious conservatives trying to censor us or the leftist trying to censor us over their feelings the point is free speech is going out the window. Everything's a trigger at this point. I'm tired of walking on eggshells around fragile people.
DarthFutuza
I'm just tired of all the hate between everyone. :(
Flyspyro
Fauxcused
Yeah, I lean left so I am a little less bothered by those on the left contributing to the problem but there is an intolerance there as well
Flyspyro
Personally I feel like if the left would just stop with the intersectionality bingo. We could get back on track and push back against the Nazis. The left is now divided. We have the far left with the crybabies and then you have the left leaners like myself who's wondering when you're going to get up and start helping us push these Nazis back.
Fauxcused
Well, that is exactly a lot of the problem. The right unifies behind candidates while the left still in fights. I feel if we rallied better wed beat the crap out of them easily. But too busy fighting each other.
Flyspyro
I used to be very left. Now I'm in no party. I think of the right as a bunch of Nazis using religion for their crusade. They think they have the moral high ground but they actually don't. For me the left is more of a bunch of spoiled brats that have never been spanked in their life as children. Almost narcissistic in expecting everyone else to cater to their feelings. That's a psychiatrist job. Their parents didn't raise them right and now they're so fragile they think words are violence.
Fauxcused
Sadly no room for moderates in a world of 24x7 news coverage. Anyone who cooperates or even creates a win-win deal is crucified. But we need a more cooperative moderate stance to work out real deals.
saphire4higher
kodiak931155
*i dont think at all*
arewenotkingsandqueenstogether
Well, we should. We'd be a better country if we looked for examples amongst our peers.
HumanCats
Isn't that part of the problem? Not looking outside your own box to see how you could improve American society?
Shoutrr
that's another problem: they have/are spoon fed by every single media in a way or another that they are the best in the world. no need to improve something if you're the best at it, and the cultural self centrism compounded by the propaganda makes it so that they won't look how it's done outside
Hangonthere
Ouh, I thought that would be Russia..
ProfessorVanDiggenSagg
Could it be because of being too occupied doing this?
DarthFutuza
I mean the porn industry is the states is very massive. So you're not wrong...
goblinart
Man, I WISH America had it this good.
AThreeFootTallChocolateMooseWithFudgeEyes
Some americans do
mitharas
hmmm, kinky
RoutemasterFlash
fucken saved
goblinart
Actually let me retract my statement, this photo is entirely accurate, as long as that bottle contains rotten horse semen.
cenfou2tout
Yes that's one of the reasons
ThrockmortonTheSkateboarder
People who think this meme is a flex should really watch the show.
TheWombatStrikesAgain
Yes and no. The worst Americans won't ever shut up talking about their European heritage, how that makes them the heirs of Rome and the Vikings, and stuff, and how that makes them better than others. They also boast about going on vacation there. What they don't like is contemporary European politics and ideals.
mandy009
We don't think about actual real modern European life one bit. We're actually backwards in the US and stuck imagining Europe as it was during the late 19th and early 20th century emigrations.
DukeofKMS
Muhahahar! Feeling sad for the US? Muhahahahahar! They actively decided to abolish democracy (citizens united) and are satisfied with those two undemocratic, end stage capitalistic parties they have. They deserve it. Just like Afghanistan deserves the taliban. They had several chances, they want them.
Winningguacamole
Oh the talisman where armed by the US. Afghanistan doesn't deserve the taliban.
DukeofKMS
1985 they were armed by the bc US. 2022, the Afghan army and police surrendered their equipment to them. Nobody fought them. They were welcomed. They deserve to get what they asked for.
AVaguelyFamiliarUsername
This is easy to say if you do not live in a country where war has been raging for more than 30 years. Thousands of civilians died every year, in some cases even more by the US and its allies than by the Taliban. The Taliban are terrible and people will certainly have fewer freedoms, but I can understand the Afghans being tired of all the killing, bombing and fighting. One refugee, I work with told me it would be better to live in peace and see his children growing up than to be free.
DukeofKMS
I live in a country where I have to live with the responsibility for what the generations of my grandparents did.
lecommentor
So, every country in the entire world..? Got it. You must be very special
DukeofKMS
N‘ah, a Country where, if you dare follow your countries interests, u gon be called a friggin Nazi.
AVaguelyFamiliarUsername
Und inwiefern lässt sich das vergleichen? Auch meine Urgroßväter und ein Großvater mit 15 waren bei der Wehrmacht. Ich verstehe aber nicht wo du da die Parallelen ziehst, zwischen den USA, Afghanistan und dem dritten Reich...
DukeofKMS
Ich glaub ich hab irgendwie Mist geantwortet, auf nen anderen Post. Imgur verwirrt mich manchmal.
DukeofKMS
Ach, weiß es wieder. Der dude meinte es wäre unvorstellbar in der Situation zu leben, in Afghanistan, quasi machtlos als einzelner. Der einzelne trägt quasi keine Verantwortung. Dem gegenüber steht dass jeder einzelne von uns deutschen die Verantwortung trägt, für das was aus taten entstand, deren Urheber 3 Generationen vor mir lebten. Tl/dr: für das jetzt trägt scheinbar keiner Verantwortung, für die Geschichte alle (Nachkommen)
BearsDontCare
Citizens united was the supreme court which us citizens do not directly vote in anyway. The system also does not utilize ranked choice voting and voter suppression is rampant. All you have demonstrated is your ability to sling shit. I suppose life must be good if youve naught else to do.
DukeofKMS
So, in the US courts Sponsor laws? That’s News to me!
ATATtightropeWalker
It was a decision of the supreme Court about an existing law. Google it.
dmorulez
It goes back to the 14th amendment. While freeing slaves, created a loophole that corporations were also granted person hood. Since a corporation can't talk, money is their speech.
BearsDontCare
For someone who behaves as if they know everything of the U.S., you appear largely ignorant
DukeofKMS
Courts never sponsor laws, not even yours.
Yeeeeaaahbuuuoooyyyyy
Eh, as a European i can say that I just feel bad for the average citizens in the states, regarding health care and diminishing freedoms in some states. But I’m certainly not judging since we’re here up shit creek with no paddle in some regards too.
urboyevan2
Ugh and you know what drives the constant suppression of freedom and inability for anyone who isn’t rich to get ahead is that for almost all corporations “profits are more important than people” also conservatives have been tricked into defending billionaires and corporations even though it’s the exact reason why THEIR quality of life hasn’t gotten better and has actually gotten worse.
MorRochben
I feel bad for a little over half the population in the US
0570
Wherever politicians roam, discontent follows
HauntedITrain
It gets a little scary sometimes. These problems scared me into action. I pay more attention now when I used to just avoid politics and other issues.
WarlockSniper
I mean, yes. I just checked what rights I have concerning being trans. HOLY SHIT AM I GLAD I LIVE WHERE I DO! I have so many rights I won't get in most of the USA, let alone an oppressive Nazi shithole like Florida. Sure, things could be better, but I count my wins when I can.
sargeantpacman
I make $23 an hour working 50 hours a week and I am too poor to leave lmao
Ekibwurm
yea and that boat's sinking.... stupid captains decided to go straight for the sand banks and rocky bits...
RubbleTrouser
Talk to my relatives in EU daily. It's not any better or worse. Same shit. Crooked politicians abound. Medical problems, over crowding, poverty migration. I am scared of the MAGA cult and their grand wizards. But EU should worry about Putin and nationalism too.
MasterMookie
Oh fuck yes. I wish there was a country that wasn't fucked. I guess the closest is like Finland or Norway. But all have countries have corruption and billionaires or millionaires. I'm also pissed about how we went away from nuclear power...
TrustworthySatan
As a Finn my money on this matter would be on Norway
BlueskydragonFX
Don't forget, Med ads on TV.
SeekerOfFire
Considering how casually most EU citizens heap scorn upon all of us who are trapped in the states this sentiment is unheard of. At least on Imgur. Thank you. It means a lot to see it said.
Heisanevilgenius
As a Canadian I'm worried as hell about what's happening in America because we're right there in the thick of it with them.
RoutemasterFlash
Speaking as a Brit, everything here is totally fine since we left the EU and we have no real problems now at all.
AoShin
https://youtu.be/3bjEpLoL0ls?t=13
RoutemasterFlash
Heh, lovely.
Kreith68
RoutemasterFlash
:(
DelCorazon
Here ye go../s…just in case…
ClosetGuitarPlayerYesItsThatBad
Is this satire? I can never tell anymore.
RoutemasterFlash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T72TopWbXJg&ab_channel=Paloopah
ClosetGuitarPlayerYesItsThatBad
Tf did I just watch? Sorry I’m a little slow to bri-ish humor but I’m going to go with…satire. What do I win?
RoutemasterFlash
You win bigly.
TrueNorthernLights
Same as here in Canada. We're not perfect, but America scares me, especially with our own Republican-lite Party we got up here.
TinyLiehon
Same. Not even upvoting that comic because it's not nice punching down.
Pace171921
Live In a blue state. Free medical. It's nice to have a safety net.
tinyfootprints
I live in the USA mostly because I have a US passport, but I grew up in Asia and now I'm much more comfortable in most of Europe that I am in the USA.
XXXSpork
Fascism, oligarchy are on the rise. The US is a little ahead of the curve
buttcreambandit
The fascism of the right has no borders. It’s just worse in some places
raindownstarrynight
Appreciated, but don’t feel to bad, we dug (still digging in some areas) our own graves. We are dangerously close to needing a French style revolution against our politicians in order to fix it. Just make sure to keep away from our disaster area until the smoke clears >.<
2fligh2high
NothingPrince
Freest country in the world with less and less freedom every day
henrikhakan
We have our problems too. But also remember we have better food =)
sortofkindamadbutnotreally
You could argue that an american would be happer than a Euro since apart from alaska, they arent in the immediate vicinity of Putler and his shenanigans. Then again, americans ARE right next to... other americans and their shenanigans and that might be worse in some ways.
Tumescentpie
America is headed towards fascism in a very real way. The gop attempted a coup and failed, but wasn't punished so they will be continuing the coup soon.
jet100a
Can you guys take in American refugees please? We need help. This place feels untenable sometimes.
pareidoliaperson
Yes but that shit creek is tied to US and probably literally too. At least one Republicanesque politician and Pegida gaining traction. I'd say it's only about muslims because bashing jews is forbidden. That Koran burning is just a dogwhistle racism. And provocative shit towards shittiest people so when they do their expected shit they'll be like oh look they're bad news as we foretold! Exact same behavior we've seen with covid pandemic us election.
RandAIFlagg
Right, shit ain't great anywhere but damn if I'd rather be starving on an island than drowning in the sea
mitharas
There is a lot going wrong here in the EU, but I prefer our problems to their problems. And one of my biggest fears is that we seem to imitate a lot of stuff from over the pond, for example conservatives going fucking nuts at the moment.
Promethianfire
In times of rapid change and uncertainty, people get scared. Frightened people are desperate for security, and are especially prone to propaganda that promises a return to "the good old days." They also retreat to the comfort of in-groups, and are easily convinced that out-groups are responsible for all their troubles. People like Trump, Putin, Le Pen, the AfD in Germany, Brexiteers in the UK, Bolsanero in Brazil, Duterte in the Philippines, and so on all thrive in such an environment.
unit48
The US empire is ending. Just like every other empire has ended. Will we have socialism or barbarism?
AoShin
Dad voice: No socialism until you finish your barbarism!
ethicalinfant
we're the test bed for what they're planning to do with the rest of the planet.
Syrpynt
Mutilated lab rats without the benefits that other places adopted from the negatives.
GatoFelix
I travel for work and can confirm, its unsettling how people abroad seem to imitate American “stereotypes”, blindly denigrating their own culture in the mean time. I can even see it here at home.
ByJoveByJingle
Your conservatives have been going nuts for a very long time. They don’t need a template. They were the original template.
cheeseplate1971
I can tell by the negative votes, there aren’t a lot of history majors in the bunch?
pip1
You have no idea how much Trump escalated shit all over the world
ByJoveByJingle
Trump was and is a manifestation of latent (or not so latent) societal flaws in the US. And to the extent that people in your country may have been influenced by a politician a world away, well that can only be a reflection of similar inherent flaws at home. If it makes you feel better to blame outside sources for inside problems, knock yourself out. Americans can similarly try to blame Russian disinformation, but again the seeds only grow when planted in fertile ground.
Riehuu
I don't know if the world can survive another 4 years of Trump and his venom.
mrose50
Cries in UK*
SecondWind90
cries in loicense
Schlumpfi
Well, at least you are somewhat an island now, for what it's worth... (I don't want to be you, but we need to say positive, or we go crazy)
UnfortunateCookie
SpitMatt
As someone who studied history, I'm just looking with horror at the EU slowly inching closer to thinly veiled right wingism again...
darganf
It's still not nearly as bad as the 1930s, but many of us are getting a 1920s vibe and keeping a very close eye on it so it. What is equally fun is that it's more populism than plain right wingism, in Ireland many people are proud there is no significant right wing scary party, but ignore that the main opposition party is left wing populist. Hungary and Poland are worrying though. Turkey has gone properly mad.
allyouneedtodoisbreathe
Also Romania might switch to rightwing, mostly because of EU not accepting it in Schengen, but also because the current coalition fails in many different ways(corruption is one of them), and the only party that didn't taste power so far is AUR, and the polls say they got significantly higher popularity than last elections, when the party was just created.
AoShin
I'd much rather have a left-wing populist like Sinn Fein than a right-wing populist like Fidesz or PiS. Sinn Fein aren't going to remove LGBT rights, or outlaw abortion, or any of the insane shit right-wing parties do. And it's not really that surprising how SF is growing in popularity, considering the absolutely failure of the Neoliberal parties for young people.
darganf
My concern with Sinn Fein would be giving a party with recent links to terrorism access to the Ministry of Justice, in particular documents relating IRA informants. And while their LGBT credentials are fine, their links to Russia and their anti immigrant language is troubling. One can understand opposition to the Irish Government parties, but support for Labour or the Social Democrats would be far less dangerous
darganf
Actually, I may be mistaken, it would appear individual members and supporters of Sinn Fein might be anti-immigrant and not necessarily the party itself. Anyone with more information please feel free to comment
AoShin
"recent links to terrorism", "links to Russia", "anti-immigrant language". Genuinely don't know what you're referring to here. Any sources?
AllMaktAtTengilVarBefriare
Do you mean far-rightism? Normal right-wing politics has always been widespread in most European countries. It is far-right/far-left that has been unacceptable.
mormacil
Inching closer? Support for populism seems to hover around 20-25%. Always has been, the change is they're no longer ashamed.
alchemist12345
What do you mean? /s /gallery/mtdZJ83
AmariaChan
Inching ? Its full steam ahead in this bitch
rusrsdude
How far along is the US, you think?
doesntmatter
What? The majority of Europe has never been anything but right-wing over time.
BoltActionGearbox
If complications while giving birth cost less than buying a house and I can be reasonably sure that the kid will come home alive from school, that's all I need.
TheMershedPerderder
I just got back to the US from Europe, and there is a much different feel, what I would summarize as surviving vs flourishing. People in the US are taught to get by, or fight for the necessary amount of resources (and if you are lazy, you don't deserve them), where in western European countries, the expectation of what a human needs to live a full life is considered.
Yeeeeaaahbuuuoooyyyyy
Well, since skilled work is in high demand you could maybe give it another go
mormacil
Why did you leave?
TheMershedPerderder
I only came over for work/stayed a few days for vacation. I would take the opportunity to be adopted if possible, but Im 34.
mormacil
Oh yeah getting a blue card is hard. Weirdly goes both ways. Getting into the US or say Australia from the EU is also hard.
TheMershedPerderder
Which is why I would like to get adopted. Looking for the right grown up to want to come get me.
simianruler
Feel free to judge us. We also have the constant fear of being shot, either by a fandom person or by the cops.
barnwolf
It's a tragedy that many murders could be prevented with better gun controls, but it's really not something so common that you should be living in constant fear.
HandoB4Javert
*"cops" European police require training to a degree level.
Akurei00
Considering they have to enforce them, you'd think they'd have to study them, too.
HandoB4Javert
It's a real brain twister why those with training require more skills and the ability to think on their feet compared to "here's your badge, youire a cop now" has different outcomes.
Ghostwish
"fandom person" oh, god, it's as much hilarious as it hurts.
cenfou2tout
That was one of my biggest fears when I was there on vacation. When you have no gun around you you feel way more secure and free, maybe it's a cultural thing but I don't get it when people say freedom is having guns everywhere...
TheDisscoPotato
I feel this. “Don’t fuck with a person you don’t know, you never know what they are capable of” is a phrase I picked up in high school and I tell my kids. Anyone could have a gun, anyone could be willing to use it. I have had guns pulled on me many a time. It’s the scared people to be afraid of, they are a dime a dozen and think the gun gives them power. God I hate this timeline…
kaoticgirl
It's not culture, it's propaganda.
NotTheSameAnymore
It has been an extremely successful brainwashing campaign. The indoctrination has been taking place for at least three decades. And I'm basing that strictly on But I personally witnessed in my life.
kickmyballsrealhard
Those people aren’t too bright, that’s the issue.
TrojanGiraffe
They are talking about the freedom to kill others on a whim, not more, not less. The sheer number of gunowners online who say things like “i wish they would” or “if it was me..” kind of stuff is astounding. Its not about self defense, its about legally killing someone, sometimes at the smallest possible excuse.
Everyonesfavorite
Yes - Uvalde...I wish they would have killed that shooter immediately....and if it was me, 130# and unarmed, I would have run in that classroom before I realized my kids would 85% lose their mom. Is that what you mean? I didn't understand your comment correctly probably.
Whydidithavetobebees
Cowboy syndrome
kaoticgirl
They say those things irl, too.
Catumi
Proper owners for self defense hope to never have to use it for its purpose outside of time at the range.
slyfox001
And hunting. I keep a pistol on me for quickdraw in case a bear or pack of wolves. Mostly to shoot in the air to scare them off, but it's also in case of self defense in a way :P
SleeperXib
I always see that shit on Nextdoor. Even over shit like ding dong ditching and package theft.
kaoticgirl
Nextdoor is the most toxic place I've ever seen. I mean, it's my neighbors and I live in SD so I'm not surprised, just overwhelmed.
ICouldKickIt
Yeah, some fandom people are truly scary :/
randomwalrus
How dare you say that, I will take my vengeance upon you!
Foxsayy
As an American, I acknowledge our gun problem but I don't really fear being shot.
TheNewKidInTheBlockWar
Fandom disputes intensify.
kerms
Uhh I don't feel that way because I'm not paranoid. It's really not that way unless you live in the slums.
Whydidithavetobebees
Found them
NiHZ
Congrats on not living in a slum I guess?
eetsumkaus
Foreign media definitely likes to play it up as well as a part of their own propaganda. Here in Japan I heard more about violence against Asian Americans than I did in my own AAPI community in the States.
DocWats
At the start of COVID I heard about it a lot here in the states. I live in South Carolina so not exactly the highest AA population here, but even we had incidents
stankginchfurbuger
That's interesting. We (in Canada) had a foreign exchange student from Japan and he was very concerned about anti Asian sentiment (it's the West coast, and it's not 1890 any more, it's very, very small). It's it something the Japanese media focuses on a lot?