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Mewdig
"I have an opinion that is just like everyone else and i feel the need to state it!"
Brocktooon
A "cool story bro" moment.
sangatster
In my experience it is wise to honor womanhood. A guy will shoot you and walk off. A woman will shoot you and kick your dead body.
fukmeefuku
Seriously. It's not a gender, race, religion thing it's be a decent human being...period.
zutty
Ugh just fuck off
cousteau
I think the idea of "respect women" is a simplification of "don't abuse your privileged position over others"
("privileged" meaning a generally higher physical strength; nothing to do with all the social stuff)
Carlox
I agree. *tips hat* M'imgurian.
SwedishRationalist
Why does everything have to be associated with fedora tipping nowadays? I just don't understand that stereotype anymore.
CapitalizingOnTheAbsenseOfAReasonableUsernameCharacterLimit
What's with the retarded template?
downrightamazed
If you have to tell me it's important, then it's not important.
TopKekTatsumi
Preach
FutureHylian
Respect women means do t let gender cloud your thinking. Respect ALL women means blindly base positive judgment off of gender.
ThatQuietlySmirking
I was always taught that respect had to be earned.
ihazanaccount
there's respect which means treating someone as an equal/a human being and there's also respect which means treating someone like authority.
The dual meaning of the word can create some issues in certain situations where people who are used to being treated like an authority say~
“if you won’t respect me I won’t respect you” and they mean “if you won’t treat me like an authority I won’t treat you like a person”
when someone says "respect had to be earned" it's referring to if you wanted to be treated as an authority/higher up you need to work for it
but some people misinterpret that saying to unless you give me something to respect I won't treat you like a human being which kind of sucks
StonesOnTheHill
IME, usually when someone has to be told this is if they somehow find excuses to not show women the minimum of respect they show other men.
ParanoidWithGoodCause
I don't know what you're on but men treat men like shit most of the time.
Sometimes people use respect to mean treating someone like a person and sometimes they use respect to mean treating someone like authority.
and sometimes people who are used to being treated like an authority say “if you won’t respect me I won’t respect you"
” and they mean “if you won’t treat me like an authority I won’t treat you like a person” ~This is where things become problematic.
EerieBarlow
Exactly Hannibal Burress said it perfectly about the troops. Excuse the paraphrasing "I respect the troops as a whole, but you? You're an >
Asshole.
cpnbeeb
Something tells me there's a #notallmen post not far off from this one.
If someone calls muslims terrorists, and someone says #NotAllMuslims, will you get pissy about that too? If not, what's the difference?
I'm honestly curious as to why this is getting downvoted.
andrewtbrown
Is that a hash tag only short men use?
Nah, just manchildren that think the world and all who reside on it owes them everything on a platter.
Oops, I triggered the neckbeards again.
Dougieleginge
Whats with the rage?
EvaUnit3
I mean... the point is that not all men are the same.... but ok if you wanna miss the point entirely go ahead
xzhous
Andrew meant that notallmen can also be read as NoTallMen
Now THAT's a strawman if I ever saw one.
melodramaticbat
Since when was feminism 'respect shitty people because they're a woman'? I swear this passive aggressive anti-feminism is such dumb shit.
Xsiah
Who said anything about feminism? The idea of treating women with extra respect goes back quite far. Chivalry and all.
It's a fair assumption: it's much more consistent for anti-feminist attitudes to dominate imgur than anti-chivalry attitudes.
We all see what we're looking for
(3) dedicated to being passive aggressive and contrarian.
(2) given day will run into a lot of anti-feminist stuff. That's an obvious fact. But I assume by your last comment you're pretty much --
My entire point is that I see what's there. There is no reason to think this is 'anti-chivalry'. Anyone who browses the internet on any (1)
PardusXY
From some points of view, Chivalry, Feminism and Traditionalism, all look the same.
Except feminism is explicitly against chivalry, and traditionalism is largely unrelated?
They all treat female like special snowflakes and expect males to fix all the world's problems for them.
BairaagiVN
Nobody is asking you to respect shitty people just because of their gender.
Trikk
Hillary Rodham Clinton
At most, you might have people asking you to respect minute aspects of a person's gender (like pronouns) even if the person is shitty.
Making up your own pronouns that nobody is familiar with and getting mad when people don't use them is the mark of a child or a narcissist .
And that's not exactly a tall order.
But I kinda feel like I'm falling for a troll. Sorry.
Vaanhalen
Yeah, they are. It comes out all the time, in reflex to inconvenient truth. The current UNTOUCHABLES is LGBT. They're a special class.
Yeah, those LGBTs are so untouchable, what with states openly passing laws discriminating against them & getting support for it.
I do understand where it came from, and it wasn't a place of hate. Live and let live, i say, but no doubt LGBT are untouchable special class
State, not states, and it was an aggressive response to similar pro-LGBT legislation that was equally overreaching. I don't support it but
TheodoreWitchfucker
What overreaching pro legislation?
Where folks got bent out was what if suspected pedo, your hands are tied. History of videoing folks, hands tied. ie. criminal fakers.
He declared himself transgender. And vice versa. For equality. If you didnt, harsh penalties. Sounds nice but potential for abuse, problems
The handicapped bathroom, but next to the men's and womens. It also had a clause making it illegal to remove a man from the ladies room if
The overreach to me was everyone was fine the way it was (go where u want), why stir the pot to protect against an nonexistant oppression?
tehPhreakmang
So much this...
Downvoted because I believe in the person not the gender?? Wow ok.
keep it up sexist trash.
evfan91
Sometimes the direction a comment goes can depend a lot on the timing just who was browsing around the time it was posted.
yea I actually made a comment about that earlier somewhere in this mess, someone should make an algorithm hehe
Usually when I'm downvoted, I compare my comment with the top ones. Usually, one is downvoted for lacking the qualities those possess.
downvoting because of reasons like that is childish and petty.
in some way. Or because it's just generic and uninteresting. Or all three. Look at your comment, and reach the most logical conclusion.(2/2)
how can "so much this" be lacking anything or be considered stupid in this context it's concise and to the point. hell even the S is capital
You misunderstand. The reason you are downvoted is either because your post is lacking something, or because it's considered stupid (1/2)
I don't sit and read others comments to make sure my comment isn't already said, who has time for that
graehall
I feel like respecting women is a more general expectation, it's not asking you to respect a shitty person who is also a woman.
grumplestiltzkin
Or you could just say "respect people" and not make it a gendered issue at all.
See this, this here is good advice. The only reason I was specific, was in response to the post. But what you say, is fucking on point mate.
Schmuck4hire
I think that's kind of where OP's going.
And that's a reasonable direction.
respect is something to be earned by one's achievements, having a vagina is not an achievement it's not worth a deep feeling of admiration.
JudgeMentalCat
You're confusing "authoritative/trusting respect" with "basic human respect"- the second meaning that you don't yell slurs or bully someone
why would basic humans be worthy of respect? demanding reverence for simple humanity means you are treating your fellows humans as animals
How's eighth grade going?
I don't remember, why don't you tell me when you get there?
I say further respect is earned by actions. Basic levels of respect are given as part of human interaction. We all have genitals. So what?:P
what abilities, qualities, or achievements have they shown which has given you a feeling of deep admiration for them?
there's a dual meaning of respect when someone says "Respect women,men,Christians,Muslims ect" it just means treat them as human beings.
The respect you're referring to is respect as in treat someone with authority or admiration. It's an annoying lexiconic problem in English.
giving "respect" when a person hasn't earned it devalues the achievements of those who DID earn respect.
umm did you see my other comment I just posted it as you replied to this one.
that is what "respect" IS a deep feeling of admiration for someone's achievements and/or abilities. just being human isn't worthy of that.
we have upwards of 7 billion humans already so just being human isn't something worthy of respect or a deep feeling of admiration.
Cerinna
I tend to respect everyone unless they do something to lose it. But I AM a woman so life may be a little easier in that respect for me.
you give a deep feeling of admiration for a persons achievements to people who haven't achieved anything?
I think you need to look up the definition of respect...
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=respect
I kind of suspected respect was a same type of word as feminism when I typed the previous comment. Damn.
That is my approach too. I give people a basic degree of respect, I expect the same in return. But they can lose it. It's how to be, yo!
How does it make it easier? :O
I'm not OBLIGED by some archaic social rule to respect the other gender JUST because they're the other gender/vulnerable. :) Weird rule btw.
Rips4w
Not sure what the pothead douchebag stick figure guy adds to this enlightening revelation in forward thinking.
BitchButcher
Art? Kind of...
Imghurrr
He was high when it occurred to him
DisgruntledFerret
Hey, HEY! "Stick figure" is hate speech. The PC term is "differently drawn".
ScarecrowsPreventMurders
Poor guy goes for a run, smokes 1 joint and shares his opinion, and suddenly he's a pothead douchebag.
Sometimes your days don't turn out as planned.
Situations can get sticky in a stick figure world.
It's good to keep a stick upper lip about things.
cartmanstits
Ehh I'm pretty sure when people say respect woman they mostly mean don't not respect them because theyre a woman. It's kinda a strawman
gunther9
exactly! this argument is the same stupid shit as "all lives matter" yes they do, but right now we are talking about something specific
Just curious: what makes the stick figure a douchebag?
Thatguywhohateseverything
You must be new
His headband. Duh.
I don't get it. Why is a person wearing a headband saying "dude" a douchebag?
It was just a joke, friend. Don't overanalyze it.
Geez, who got mad?
TheParanoidPotato
I feel you should treat people with respect unless they give you a reason not to
th3goodj3rk
I would like to test your conviction.
I feel like giving someone a feeling of deep admiration when they haven't achieved anything devalues the achievements of those who have.
Imjeeves
I think expecting or demanding respect will come of very fast a a reason not to respect someone, but I would otherwise agree.
spuds31
Unless of course they're an incredibly successful self-made individual. Then they're a dick, but still deserve some respect.
alman1234
Respect should be earned on a person by person basis. Personal achievement should only be a foundation, not the monument.
Sessils
True, but should you treat people with no respect until they prove themselves to you?
Mewdig
"I have an opinion that is just like everyone else and i feel the need to state it!"
Brocktooon
A "cool story bro" moment.
sangatster
In my experience it is wise to honor womanhood. A guy will shoot you and walk off. A woman will shoot you and kick your dead body.
fukmeefuku
Seriously. It's not a gender, race, religion thing it's be a decent human being...period.
zutty
Ugh just fuck off
cousteau
I think the idea of "respect women" is a simplification of "don't abuse your privileged position over others"
cousteau
("privileged" meaning a generally higher physical strength; nothing to do with all the social stuff)
Carlox
I agree. *tips hat* M'imgurian.
SwedishRationalist
Why does everything have to be associated with fedora tipping nowadays? I just don't understand that stereotype anymore.
CapitalizingOnTheAbsenseOfAReasonableUsernameCharacterLimit
What's with the retarded template?
downrightamazed
If you have to tell me it's important, then it's not important.
TopKekTatsumi
Preach
FutureHylian
Respect women means do t let gender cloud your thinking. Respect ALL women means blindly base positive judgment off of gender.
ThatQuietlySmirking
I was always taught that respect had to be earned.
ihazanaccount
there's respect which means treating someone as an equal/a human being and there's also respect which means treating someone like authority.
ihazanaccount
The dual meaning of the word can create some issues in certain situations where people who are used to being treated like an authority say~
ihazanaccount
“if you won’t respect me I won’t respect you” and they mean “if you won’t treat me like an authority I won’t treat you like a person”
ihazanaccount
when someone says "respect had to be earned" it's referring to if you wanted to be treated as an authority/higher up you need to work for it
ihazanaccount
but some people misinterpret that saying to unless you give me something to respect I won't treat you like a human being which kind of sucks
StonesOnTheHill
IME, usually when someone has to be told this is if they somehow find excuses to not show women the minimum of respect they show other men.
ParanoidWithGoodCause
I don't know what you're on but men treat men like shit most of the time.
ihazanaccount
Sometimes people use respect to mean treating someone like a person and sometimes they use respect to mean treating someone like authority.
ihazanaccount
and sometimes people who are used to being treated like an authority say “if you won’t respect me I won’t respect you"
ihazanaccount
” and they mean “if you won’t treat me like an authority I won’t treat you like a person” ~This is where things become problematic.
EerieBarlow
Exactly Hannibal Burress said it perfectly about the troops. Excuse the paraphrasing "I respect the troops as a whole, but you? You're an >
EerieBarlow
Asshole.
cpnbeeb
Something tells me there's a #notallmen post not far off from this one.
SwedishRationalist
If someone calls muslims terrorists, and someone says #NotAllMuslims, will you get pissy about that too? If not, what's the difference?
SwedishRationalist
I'm honestly curious as to why this is getting downvoted.
andrewtbrown
Is that a hash tag only short men use?
cpnbeeb
Nah, just manchildren that think the world and all who reside on it owes them everything on a platter.
cpnbeeb
Oops, I triggered the neckbeards again.
Dougieleginge
Whats with the rage?
EvaUnit3
I mean... the point is that not all men are the same.... but ok if you wanna miss the point entirely go ahead
xzhous
Andrew meant that notallmen can also be read as NoTallMen
SwedishRationalist
Now THAT's a strawman if I ever saw one.
melodramaticbat
Since when was feminism 'respect shitty people because they're a woman'? I swear this passive aggressive anti-feminism is such dumb shit.
Xsiah
Who said anything about feminism? The idea of treating women with extra respect goes back quite far. Chivalry and all.
melodramaticbat
It's a fair assumption: it's much more consistent for anti-feminist attitudes to dominate imgur than anti-chivalry attitudes.
Xsiah
We all see what we're looking for
melodramaticbat
(3) dedicated to being passive aggressive and contrarian.
melodramaticbat
(2) given day will run into a lot of anti-feminist stuff. That's an obvious fact. But I assume by your last comment you're pretty much --
melodramaticbat
My entire point is that I see what's there. There is no reason to think this is 'anti-chivalry'. Anyone who browses the internet on any (1)
PardusXY
From some points of view, Chivalry, Feminism and Traditionalism, all look the same.
melodramaticbat
Except feminism is explicitly against chivalry, and traditionalism is largely unrelated?
PardusXY
They all treat female like special snowflakes and expect males to fix all the world's problems for them.
BairaagiVN
Nobody is asking you to respect shitty people just because of their gender.
Trikk
Hillary Rodham Clinton
BairaagiVN
At most, you might have people asking you to respect minute aspects of a person's gender (like pronouns) even if the person is shitty.
Trikk
Making up your own pronouns that nobody is familiar with and getting mad when people don't use them is the mark of a child or a narcissist .
BairaagiVN
And that's not exactly a tall order.
BairaagiVN
But I kinda feel like I'm falling for a troll. Sorry.
Vaanhalen
Yeah, they are. It comes out all the time, in reflex to inconvenient truth. The current UNTOUCHABLES is LGBT. They're a special class.
BairaagiVN
Yeah, those LGBTs are so untouchable, what with states openly passing laws discriminating against them & getting support for it.
Vaanhalen
I do understand where it came from, and it wasn't a place of hate. Live and let live, i say, but no doubt LGBT are untouchable special class
Vaanhalen
State, not states, and it was an aggressive response to similar pro-LGBT legislation that was equally overreaching. I don't support it but
TheodoreWitchfucker
What overreaching pro legislation?
Vaanhalen
Where folks got bent out was what if suspected pedo, your hands are tied. History of videoing folks, hands tied. ie. criminal fakers.
Vaanhalen
He declared himself transgender. And vice versa. For equality. If you didnt, harsh penalties. Sounds nice but potential for abuse, problems
Vaanhalen
The handicapped bathroom, but next to the men's and womens. It also had a clause making it illegal to remove a man from the ladies room if
Vaanhalen
The overreach to me was everyone was fine the way it was (go where u want), why stir the pot to protect against an nonexistant oppression?
tehPhreakmang
So much this...
tehPhreakmang
Downvoted because I believe in the person not the gender?? Wow ok.
tehPhreakmang
keep it up sexist trash.
evfan91
Sometimes the direction a comment goes can depend a lot on the timing just who was browsing around the time it was posted.
tehPhreakmang
yea I actually made a comment about that earlier somewhere in this mess, someone should make an algorithm hehe
StonesOnTheHill
Usually when I'm downvoted, I compare my comment with the top ones. Usually, one is downvoted for lacking the qualities those possess.
tehPhreakmang
downvoting because of reasons like that is childish and petty.
StonesOnTheHill
in some way. Or because it's just generic and uninteresting. Or all three. Look at your comment, and reach the most logical conclusion.(2/2)
tehPhreakmang
how can "so much this" be lacking anything or be considered stupid in this context it's concise and to the point. hell even the S is capital
StonesOnTheHill
You misunderstand. The reason you are downvoted is either because your post is lacking something, or because it's considered stupid (1/2)
tehPhreakmang
I don't sit and read others comments to make sure my comment isn't already said, who has time for that
graehall
I feel like respecting women is a more general expectation, it's not asking you to respect a shitty person who is also a woman.
grumplestiltzkin
Or you could just say "respect people" and not make it a gendered issue at all.
graehall
See this, this here is good advice. The only reason I was specific, was in response to the post. But what you say, is fucking on point mate.
Schmuck4hire
I think that's kind of where OP's going.
graehall
And that's a reasonable direction.
ParanoidWithGoodCause
respect is something to be earned by one's achievements, having a vagina is not an achievement it's not worth a deep feeling of admiration.
JudgeMentalCat
You're confusing "authoritative/trusting respect" with "basic human respect"- the second meaning that you don't yell slurs or bully someone
ParanoidWithGoodCause
why would basic humans be worthy of respect? demanding reverence for simple humanity means you are treating your fellows humans as animals
JudgeMentalCat
How's eighth grade going?
ParanoidWithGoodCause
I don't remember, why don't you tell me when you get there?
graehall
I say further respect is earned by actions. Basic levels of respect are given as part of human interaction. We all have genitals. So what?:P
ParanoidWithGoodCause
what abilities, qualities, or achievements have they shown which has given you a feeling of deep admiration for them?
ihazanaccount
there's a dual meaning of respect when someone says "Respect women,men,Christians,Muslims ect" it just means treat them as human beings.
ihazanaccount
The respect you're referring to is respect as in treat someone with authority or admiration. It's an annoying lexiconic problem in English.
ParanoidWithGoodCause
giving "respect" when a person hasn't earned it devalues the achievements of those who DID earn respect.
ihazanaccount
umm did you see my other comment I just posted it as you replied to this one.
ihazanaccount
The respect you're referring to is respect as in treat someone with authority or admiration. It's an annoying lexiconic problem in English.
ParanoidWithGoodCause
that is what "respect" IS a deep feeling of admiration for someone's achievements and/or abilities. just being human isn't worthy of that.
ParanoidWithGoodCause
we have upwards of 7 billion humans already so just being human isn't something worthy of respect or a deep feeling of admiration.
Cerinna
I tend to respect everyone unless they do something to lose it. But I AM a woman so life may be a little easier in that respect for me.
ParanoidWithGoodCause
you give a deep feeling of admiration for a persons achievements to people who haven't achieved anything?
Cerinna
I think you need to look up the definition of respect...
ParanoidWithGoodCause
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=respect
Cerinna
I kind of suspected respect was a same type of word as feminism when I typed the previous comment. Damn.
graehall
That is my approach too. I give people a basic degree of respect, I expect the same in return. But they can lose it. It's how to be, yo!
TheodoreWitchfucker
How does it make it easier? :O
Cerinna
I'm not OBLIGED by some archaic social rule to respect the other gender JUST because they're the other gender/vulnerable. :) Weird rule btw.
Rips4w
Not sure what the pothead douchebag stick figure guy adds to this enlightening revelation in forward thinking.
BitchButcher
Art? Kind of...
Imghurrr
He was high when it occurred to him
DisgruntledFerret
Hey, HEY! "Stick figure" is hate speech. The PC term is "differently drawn".
ScarecrowsPreventMurders
Poor guy goes for a run, smokes 1 joint and shares his opinion, and suddenly he's a pothead douchebag.
Rips4w
Sometimes your days don't turn out as planned.
ScarecrowsPreventMurders
Situations can get sticky in a stick figure world.
Rips4w
It's good to keep a stick upper lip about things.
cartmanstits
Ehh I'm pretty sure when people say respect woman they mostly mean don't not respect them because theyre a woman. It's kinda a strawman
gunther9
exactly! this argument is the same stupid shit as "all lives matter" yes they do, but right now we are talking about something specific
SwedishRationalist
Just curious: what makes the stick figure a douchebag?
Thatguywhohateseverything
You must be new
Rips4w
His headband. Duh.
SwedishRationalist
I don't get it. Why is a person wearing a headband saying "dude" a douchebag?
Rips4w
It was just a joke, friend. Don't overanalyze it.
Rips4w
Geez, who got mad?
TheParanoidPotato
I feel you should treat people with respect unless they give you a reason not to
th3goodj3rk
I would like to test your conviction.
ParanoidWithGoodCause
I feel like giving someone a feeling of deep admiration when they haven't achieved anything devalues the achievements of those who have.
Imjeeves
I think expecting or demanding respect will come of very fast a a reason not to respect someone, but I would otherwise agree.
spuds31
Unless of course they're an incredibly successful self-made individual. Then they're a dick, but still deserve some respect.
alman1234
Respect should be earned on a person by person basis. Personal achievement should only be a foundation, not the monument.
Sessils
True, but should you treat people with no respect until they prove themselves to you?