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Jan 29, 2018 6:15 PM
ThePhantom777
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Janusha
My brother used to say in school... Why should I learn English. Im never gonna go there. 14 years later he had a house in Brighton.
DiracsDelta
As an engineer, this is literally how it works.
CaelonGmail
So I'm an electrician now. Yay math.
Quanze
Math class is about problem solving as much as it is about numbers.
lucillethelooseseal
I was a little above average in high school. I never use algebra.
sowillo
If you are a teacher, dont be a cunt like this just cause you think its funny or they deserve, you could really hurt them in the long run
YarTheBug
Since @OP couldn't be bothered: https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/why-i-couldn39t-be-a-math-teacher
crochethooker
sauce: https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/why-i-couldn39t-be-a-math-teacher
prepareyourbutt
My only complaint is practically making it a requirement for high school students to take calculus AP (where I live) for college apps.
SirShmango
WhiteningMcClean
One of my fave SMBC +1
Timpani
As a mathematics teacher - algebra, trigonometry, planar geometry and linear equations have a LOT of real world applications. I teach them.
IWasALurkerNowIAmARegisteredOne
During second year of High School me and my nerdy-smart friend asked the same question to our teacher.
EvanTheBabe
Artist is smbc. They cut off the tag.
cousteau
Nah, this was before the artist added tags to the comics.
WellAckchually
Until I saw this comment, it honestly did not occur to me that people might not recognize SMBC.
Zegot
almost done with my first semester physics and AHAHA you'd get fucking bodied without a solid math background in algebra and calculus.
vierik
I never got this. I use algebra all the time.
Billis75
The thing is, we use most things we learned in school all the time, like showing up on time to work. We also learned how to learn.
TooLazyToDoSomethingElse
Thanks critical thinking and problem solving abilities!
Dionysus187
It is used often but math teachers seem incapable of coming up with practical examples.
Timpani
I am a maths teacher and I get sent practical examples by people who want help solving them. I pass them on to my classes
Runikal
To be fair I'm an engineer, and it's rare I use anything beyond linear algebra. When I do need calc, I'll Google it bc I forget.
TreyNotSongz2k17
One of my professors in college has his PHd in welding engineering. He highly recommended we don't follow suit if we dislike math 1/2
TreyNotSongz2k17
Because we said he never used more than the first semester and beyond that is pointless.
Embronyx
I'm an okay student... But everything other than simple math still confuses me. I'm convinced i'm just an idiot.
perceptualmotion
im sure you just never had a good teacher. makes a world of difference.
Embronyx
You would be right in that assumption. All my math teachers really sucked.
BaconRodeo
As a math teacher, I answer this question at least once a week.
usersubbordercontrol
I've tutored other students before. They'd ask what they even need this knowledge for, so I give cases where they would need it.
IWasALurkerNowIAmARegisteredOne
In High School second year we asked the teacher the same. She replied: "Maybe not. But now it will be useful for you to train your mind."
Munchman347
Then teach it to the smart kids and teach the rest how to do taxes and balance a check book...
destroyer4887
I like how for my degree they told me I needed to take 3 years of calculus but after checking my degree requirements I just needed a year :D
Okebel
Math is taught, for the most part, to help children develop abstract thinking. Most people will never use it.
TakeMeToFrontPageAndBackFiveTimesADay
It's the "well you won't use these exact skills, but if you can do that then you can do this" mentality
blinblambloo
My problem with math is that I have number dislexia so shit was impossible for me and I didn’t know why.
blinblambloo
Knowing how to do the problem yet failing time and time again was insanely demoralizing. And made my dad yell at my from age 11 all sorts
blinblambloo
Of slurs so I kinda hay math with a passion
MrInconspicuous
I recommend staying away from algebra. It's the gateway math to much harder math like integration, differentiation and trig identities.
justaname94
Dude I just started my class today on differentiation, don't scare more
Apocalypsox
failed a trig test today, can confirm.
stormtrooper412
if you think that's much harder try Lie groups
Ifallenandicantgetup
true. im already having an unhealthy dose of 4 classes a week of calculus. It all started when i toke that one algebra class a year ago.
Quellan
What? I feel like it's more a gateway to group and set theory than analysis? I suck at algebra but am decent at analysis.
toxicmanjt
Analysis was the bane of my first year
sowillo
Magic got it.
Cheomesh
I...I...I failed Trig three times in college :(
viila
College?! Here in Finland trigonometry is a middle school subject!
Cheomesh
Usually it's high school in the US but we are generally of lower intelligence to Europeans anyways, and I'm especially stupid.
IBegToDiffer
HEY diff eq is fun. I finally understood calc after taking a diff eq course.
triedtothinkofausernamethatwasntalreadytaken
Engineers everywhere are crying like widows
notghnisawegroeg
As someone who is taking calc right now, I can verify that I am indeed crying like a widow.
geosynthetic
But those are the easy parts of the harder maths.
commodore69
Gotta start somewhere
cousteau
That sounds an awful lot like calculus, not algebra, am I not right?
Tadaw22
Pretty soon you'll be lurking in an alleyway looking for multivariable calculus problems. Tenure usually happens within ten years.
owenpotato
Trig identities are not that hard man, just have to memorize em
MrInconspicuous
Is it? I once got a math quiz which contained 2 proofs problems. It was worth 25% of the final grade. Don't underestimate trig identities
MrInconspicuous
The solutions for each question just barely fit on 2 pages.
PixelSprite64
ThySausagePrince
How derivative.
OlderWiser
I never found a useful application (real life) for Algebra. There probably are, I just never found one.
cousteau
Electric circuit simulation comes to mind.
KrystenRitterEyeRoll
Then you're not one of the smart kids. Did you even read the comic?
OlderWiser
https://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/homer-simpson-doh-gif-7.gif
SardonicGrin
Examples for retirement - examining healthcare costs to decide on which Medicare to use, deciding when to start social security, if you get
SardonicGrin
a post retirement job, how much can you earn to not affect social security...
OlderWiser
All that is available without algebra. And the math is not tough. Already did all that.
HiddenSanity
I think you'll find those are basic algebra questions.
OlderWiser
Well i didn't find I needed algebra to do it.
iamnotverywise
It's used a lot in finance, engineering roles etc.
OlderWiser
I believe it. I just never needed it.
WellAckchually
You just don't think of it as algebra. You probably think of it as arithmetic, but if you were forced to write it all down, it'd be algebra.
SomeDetroitGuy
If you roll joints with 1/2g of pot, how many ounces do you need to buy for the entire party to get lit?
OlderWiser
Not useful as I never went to parties and I don't share.
Peachos
Maybe that's why you were never invited..
OlderWiser
The point is moot. Got invited to plenty, didn't go, didn't want to go.
SomeDetroitGuy
Your car gets 30 miles per gallon. There are 20 miles to work. Gas is $2.50 a gallon. How much cash can you spend on beer?
OlderWiser
The variable is my age. When i was young, it was a lot of beer. Now I'm retired and don't drink beer.
MericanFunkYeah
All of it, filled up yesterday
eyllan
I use, algebra, calculus and statistics on a daily basis
thatsnotimportant
Most people would group you into the smart kids, then.
JiveTurkeyWho
Started using algebra and trig when I started shooting long distance in the army and was thankful I did math in school
chrispmorgan
What's an example of applying calculus? I use the other two in a mildly quantitative job.
WhotheFuckAretheArcticMonkeyss
Anything that requires optimization methods. So everything from finance portfolio management to machine-learning
TheOlsenTwins
Oh look a math teacher!
HiddenSanity
I use Algebra, tri, and a bit of Calculus working on building projects.
eyllan
*engineer
GotCubes
What kind of engineer? I'm studying computer engineering, and it's more math than anticipated haha. Not that I'm complaining.
eyllan
I'm a mechanical engineer. Btw computer engineering will have you doing some of the most abstract math out there
Theunimaginativeone
I was going to say only engineer's and architect's must use it fair play
PerhapsAnotherPerspective
I mean, economists do too
CmRock136
And physicists and chemists and economists and actuaries and mathematicians and...
PartyHatGladOS
Algebra is one of the most applicable maths to everyday life though.
iDevilsdocry
Maybe to you but not the dumbest kid in the class. (Referring to the joke)
Angel666Hawk
Yes, but you always know your variables.
Sophitoaster
To be completely honest if I need to do math I usually use a calculator, I flunked algebra lol
LeNouveau
Tracendo
imadethisaccounttotellyouthis
I use linear equation algebra regularly. I use stats occasionally. I only use the most basic of calculus.
ChemEng2013
Knowing calc for me has been useful less for doing actual calculus and more for aiding in the understanding of other sciences/disciplines
imadethisaccounttotellyouthis
Yeah, physics and some chemical reactions.
pukeachew
An actuary!
Cheomesh
Yep.
savvern
Hah! Says the smart kid... wait..
FastF0x
2 + 2 x 4
TheVaccine
Remember to use BIDMAS folks!
iamiseri
10
CommunCreator
10
KarakLohr
15
Whydoeseveryonebelieveme
The number of people who routinely answer "16" to a question like this is too high.
RatchetTheWusky
What? How- OH right. Please excuse my dear aunt sally
MathGoat
16, trust me, I'm a goat
feeltheice
I dont know where I use it at. like 99.9% of my math problems are simple addition of large numbers.
mallywanders
Delinquents will pay attention to algebra if you hint they'll need it for selling drugs and growing pot. Not even joking, this happened.
Ryanator50
but what about Calculus? I don't even know what that is...
ilovemyboobs
I use it way more as a self employed person than I did as a company drone.
dentros1
I use a lot of trig in pipe layouts
samsonguy920
Yes it is. Do any of the kids from high school know it? Not in my town.
RatchetTheWusky
Figures thats the worst ive been doing in math class all my life. Lowest was a C before, now Ive gotten Fs.
daizzey
When algebra is applicable, you’ll never realize you’re doing it.
DrunkSnowWhite
Have a friend who never learned algebra. He constantly asks me to calculate stuffs for him I would never have thought twice about.
ensensu
Do you want to find the total volume of your favorite blowgun?
greyforashley
You get a +1.
UNHhhh
The point is, I don't think I'll need to find out if an equation is an inverse variation in my day to day life.
ZeroContexzonne
I work for a company that offers microloans via mobile money. Applicable everyday in decisioning customer data
fatman6288
Explain please.
keyonne
You need to fence your yard and you need to know how many 6ft fence sections you need for a half acre of land. Algebra
KnotsAreMySpecialty
Wow thats a lot of wood in my every day life......
Runikal
To reiterate, there's a 10% discount on all items. N is item cost, so 0.9N is discounted cost. You won't think about it, you will just do it
Cthulhukitten
Exactly, never knew why people had problem putting letters there instead of numbers.
PSFE43X
There's a 10% discount on those $50 dollar jeans. Most can figure they'll cost $45... technically you did algebra.
fatman6288
Exelant straight forward example! +1 friend
nppraxis
What? That's multiplication. I multiplied $50 x 0.9 .
TooLazyToDoSomethingElse
Yeah you still do math in algebra.
Quantumkittens
X × 0.9 = y, where x is 50, y is 45. That was algebra still
pukeachew
I felt the same way... Now I'm confused
tehwilsonator
Note that 0.9 isn't in the problem, which meant you calculated it. In other words, you brain solved 1.0 - x = 0.1 without you knowing it.
Kaarin1
I did that before my algebra classes however, so why do I need to take classes?
TheEmperorOfMankind40000
Yea but most of the time I already know what x is so I can easily figure out y
Sturmgeschutz
Me too but then I remember I need to show my work so I disregard my answer.
TooLazyToDoSomethingElse
Even without you thinking about it your brain figures it out because you learned how thanks to algebra.
Ladyfish
Even my x doesn't know y!
TraitorousTrump3
If the bill is 79.48 and you want to split it 3 ways and tip 13.5%, how much is each person's share?
UWantSumFuk
You pay an even 100 and someone eats a penny
TraitorousTrump3
That's way more than 13.5%. Like almost double it. Which is exactly my point.
TheEmperorOfMankind40000
i always tip double. sometimes its more than my meal. i knw what its like being on a tiping wage.
Cheomesh
30.06 (giggles)
LordNoodles
Pew pew
superseriouscomments
Answer is illegal in Cali
Hurch
Although this is true, the answer usually just pops into your head, and you don't have to actually write down a formula to figure it out.
Genini
Almost as though you learned it.
n0vaga5
That's crazy talk
Beelsebooob
For simple stuff, yes - because you've learned it, for more complex stuff, that every engineer, accountant, biologist, astronaut, joiner, 1/
Beelsebooob
vet, doctor, nurse, ... use on a daily basis... no, not so much. 2/2
freezingpilot
For more complex stuff, we use Calculus.
Beelsebooob
calculus builds on algebra - it's "just" two new operators to use. Plus, there's plenty of other mathematics that get used daily by 1/
Beelsebooob
people, not *just* calculus for complex stuff. 2/2
PartyHatGladOS
So you are suggesting that, because I learned it, I used it without effort. Isn' t that the point?
Beelsebooob
Yes! The point is that learning algebra has value, even to people who'll never solve an equation more complex than a=b*c.
DonTeis195
And D&D
LeGiant
Cheomesh
*laughs in GURPS*
SiIenzio
Omg, yes.
Cheomesh
Other GURPSfolk on Imgur?! Unpossible.
pepperjacksgonnacutyou
Care to explain this one?
Cheomesh
GURPS has more algebra in it than D&D.
theromen111
Pathfinder has a feat for math http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/sacred-geometry/
EmmaReiki
.
MagicKarpy
It would be fun if it wasn't so brokenly over powered.
theromen111
I know right
SpazzyP
It's still a chance you fail even if you are good at math. Unlike DMM.
MagicKarpy
At least DMM has a resource limit and I don't think you can fail Sacred Geometry after level 11 or so.
wartoaster
Agree. I told my players to write out their bonuses as equations where the D20 is the variable. It makes so much more sense to them now
LeGiant
Like for everything, because that's a lot of work.
FlatPlutoSociety
Do they struggle with this? I ask because it's pretty intuitively obvious to me, and I am not mathematically inclined AT ALL.
BatmanRidingANarwhal
What
wartoaster
D+(L/2+4) where D is D20 and L is player level
AlexXUndead
Nipplebuttsalad
.
LovveLetter
Attack hits if (1d20 + Proficiency Modifier + Strength Modifier + Weapon Bonus) > Enemy Armor Class. Add 1d4 if Blessed by a Cleric.
admiralcrackbar
Greater than or equal to.
WolfRexV3
Depends on DM
Rusvul
It shouldn't, by rules as written, at least. I can't speak for earlier editions, but an attack roll equal to AC has been a hit since 3e.
LovveLetter
yeah, but I don't have that key on my keyboard
admiralcrackbar
>=