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Feralkyn
This is from something... I can't remember what but the og should def. be credited
ComradeBinch
What the fuck is this post? Brown people vs white people? All muslims, all christians? Whats the labeling here exactly? This is the shit that makes the front page of imgur?
Tuigens
I didn't even notice that the young guy was paler. I assumed he was the son of the couple on the left is an apostate from the religion of his parents. The dark haired chad is a notable change from the common one, thus I made the connection. Though if you read it with the race goggles on and assume the characters are not related, then the message can seem more nefarious.
CaptainFubs
I don't love that this is being targeted clearly at Muslims
SufiJiuJitsu
Plot twist: The people on the right are causing, funding, & supporting the genocide/oppression of the people on the left for decades, yet claim universality of their ever-shifting "values" and enforce them by physical & economic threats. We Muslims dont start conversations like this, & have inner peace & understand live and let live far better than a Western society of morally relativistic high-functioning psychopaths. But you wont let us live. But hey, someone wants those fake internet points.
ScorpionSage
That’s why the Islamic caliphate has been colonizing for centuries I guess…
Eupryion
Not a fan of the stereotypes on either side. Being religious doesn't make you a dick, being atheist doesn't make you a chad. Being a dick makes you one, and there's plenty on all sides. There's also decent human beings on all sides as well. This kind of stereotyping only hurts.
SoGrosslyIncandescent
This mindset is equally true of the extremists of every religion, but please also remember their are kind and generous members of every religion, they just get drowned out by the screaming of people like this.
NineByNine
idk, if the loudest and most vocal members are the ones people see and hear the most then you can sorta see why the religion gets tarred with them. Maybe sort out the extremists and get rid of them so they don't make it all about them and their hate?
SoGrosslyIncandescent
I'm no expert on the various sects and denominations of other religions, but christianity has dozens of different denominations with different views. I know of a couple denominations that have lost entire congregations at a church because they refused to back down on appointing a gay pastor, they literally did sort out the extremists and are building new congregations. But they can't silence those people that left, they're still gonna yell.
kkanne20
we've made this country (and earth to a large extent) our hell, when it could've been heaven
ParanoidCarrot
my ex was a muslim woman, she only used her religion as a weapon to get what she wanted.
she drank, ate what she wanted, used very sexy clothing, basicly never adhered to anything in her former religion. but when she wanted something she pulled the religion card
Newitt
How did that work?
KidCharlemagne524
Well, he said it's his ex, so I imagine that it didn't work out well.
cAPTNcAPSLOCK
what's the point of making the left people muslims? Got something specific to say, OP?
ucandcantunc
Missing the point , they will kill you for it .
hewhosleftalone
Sorry for the downwote but kind of had to
Artebudz
Reminds me of blackadder: hell is where the fun people are.
Txernobog
Go to heaven for the climate, Hell for the company (Mark Twain)
Avilan1972
Remember, Satan was the hero, Eve was a freedom fighter and God is a dictator.
cardinal29
And we're all in the Resistance!
Stefnos
dont forget Lucifer saw humans haveing freewill and wanted some of that.... so he rebeled against god.... to get... free will.... hmmm something dont make no sense there xD
Qualtagh
is it 2004? Did I finally find a portal back?
HeartOfADeadStar
I have some very disturbing news sir. It's 2024
Qualtagh
7hatsBollocks
Heading towards 1024 fast too.
RSRjarredallen
Yeah, except with worse weather
drinkthederpentine
Jumped to the comments to see the predictable but utterly unexplainable flocking of people who happily criticize religion just not Islam. Is it Stockholm syndrome? It was illegal for women to drive in Saudia Arabia until 2018 and people try to act like Sharia law (Islam) are somehow exempt from the headline "Religion is Shit" nah dude, they are the prime example of why religion is shit.
SirHonytawk
What? We criticize any cult equally.
Just one has a much bigger effect on our lives, so we focus on that one.
ScorpionSage
If you think you aren’t being brainwashed by extremist Islam right now you are dead wrong
Jyx123
Personally I'm just fine with dunking on Islam because it is a religion and a bad one.
I am less fine with dunking on Islam _alone_ because there's a lot of other religions, some of which have a more immediate impact on me and/or many of the people on here (although obviously not all) and they are at least in part or at core levels just as dunk-worthy.
Can women in the US drive? Sure.
Can they safely get an abortion? Thanks to christians not quite as sure and who knows what's next...
toshach33
Is this intended to be anti-Islamic? Sorry, but it kinda looks that way to me.
meridah
Strange, I read it as anti-Christianity. Depends on your background and experiences, I guess
drinkthederpentine
Yes, because Islam (all abrahamic religions) have made up gods, made up rules, and tell you you're going to hell if you don't follow their particular rule set. And usually their sects rules, which are different enough they'll kill each other over it (shiite and sunni, Protestants and Catholics during the reformation, etc)
electricwizard
Saying "gods" plural just shows how little you know given how high and mighty you act. Second, no muslim worth his salt is going to tell you he's going to heaven, nor will he tell you someone else is going to hell.
drinkthederpentine
Fuck off. I know all the abrahamic religions worship the same non existent God with different flavors of prophet on top. And fucking lmao you think there are no fundamentalist Muslims condemning others. How about the men flogged literally this year for being gay? https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/03/27/yemen-houthis-sentence-men-death-flogging
ScorpionSage
Jews don’t believe in hell
otamolot
Religions are mythology. All of them are frauds. Stealing your money and trying to control you.
EveryMomentisaWakingNightmare
This is racist. OP, I assume you support the ethnic cleansing of Palestine, you fascist nutjob.
taez555
Was anyone else creeped out when they told you your dead grandparents were in heaven watching you masturbate, and you needed to stop it, cuz they're ashamed of you? Or was I the only one grew up catholic?
Avilan1972
I am pretty damn sure that statistically almost every grandparents ever in the history of homo sapiens masturbated.
TheIceHorse
Mine told me my dog wouldn't go to heaven because it, like all animals, doesn't have a soul. I was 6. I stopped going to church after that.
murderhobbit
As a Catholic, I mean-- not ever said that much about it. And-- why would they watch that? There's better things to see! Haha
Feralkyn
I grew up catholic and nobody said shit like this. I mean my grandparents were still alive until I was an adult but still, nobody said this shit lol
areyouelonmusk
Why they peepin, perverts!
WillemHellfire
Former Catholic here. Never heard anything like that growing up, but maybe I just got lucky.
LeftRightThere
yamamasyamaha
Them and Santa!
taez555
Cindex1337
ILikeRespondingWithWillSmithGifs
They tell a lot of people that. I tell told them to stop watching me and my young adult classes at my church stopped saying that. But then I left. Fuck it.
NightOwlRally
The Catholic version - "If you're happy and you know it, that's a sin!"
supervillin
If you really want to show it, it's a deadly sin!
Lontri
I just remember when this youth pastor told us that if we masturbate, we're going straight to hell. So I was like "why the fuck am I coming here every weekend then?" and never went back to any kinds of church youth evenings ever again. Started to figure out that Christianity isn't for me. Looked into a lot of religions, and eventually in my mid 20's looked into Satanism and was like "hey, this matches my world views, I guess I'm a Satanist" :p
ScarecrowSticks
Inkyrickshaw did a comic about this
G0MeatCube
Your grandparents watching like
ShimmerinStrider
Catholic Guilt knows no bounds.
WhattaMattahYou
friend of mine was told the seam on his scrote would upzip land drop his balls down his legs if he didn't stop
this was by a Youth Pastor, can't remember what flavor of Christianity though I'm guessing it really doesn't matter
PoopyProblem5
The thing is your grandparents ARE watching you masturbate. But are you the sicko for masturbating or are they for watching?
IndigoThursday
Thankfully I've never been told that
cousteau
I heard that too but they never specified the "being ashamed" part.
Hukkie
The only thing I was told about masturbation by my parents was "It is natural, most people do it, make sure you do it in private" and that they would make sure to always knock and wait for a response before entering my room going forward.
One conversation, never mentioned again.
Khanamana324
Just the way it should be.
donutsauce
Literally the only thing I remember them saying about it was "it shouldn't exactly be your main weekend plans, but don't worry about it"
TheFakeCraigFerguson
I was never really raised Christian. Like, my grandma occasionally went to church, more so when I got older. My mom, I didn't realized she considered herself Christian till she lost her shit when she found out I'm athiest. I grew up super prudish because of religion. Weird shit.
Nomestoo
My mother lost her shit too when I told her I was an Atheist and told me to go to church and get on my knees and pray for forgiveness.
CrisprCAS
This one's for you, nana.
JaimeLannistersRightHand
Look into my eyes gampaw and tell me you love me
LuLuPennyAndOdium44
I'll rub one out for her as well friend
Lovethesmelloftoastedsourdoughbread
snoogns
Dicks out for gamgam
LespritDeLescalier22
BAM
syntheticgod8
The hilarious thing is that the idea of relatives going to an afterlife (or worse, becoming angels) to watch over you isn't part of Christian doctrine; this is just an ancestor-worship revival that we were led to believe has always been part of being Christian. The Bible is really clear: dead people stay dead until Judgement Day and the Resurrection. Modern Christians can't even handle their own belief system anymore.
homoerection
Yep, in the JW cult they teach exactly this. When you’re dead you’re dead. If you’re worthy then you’ll be resurrected after Armageddon in the New Order. The only exception is if you are one of the 144,000 that were chosen to ascend to heaven to assist god and the angles with the preparations for the end times and the after party.
syntheticgod8
I've read a JW Bible too and some of the quotes they use to justify some of their beliefs were a major stretch. Like, not wearing a cross seems a reasonable choice but most of the others made little sense to me. It always strikes me how religions will base an entire pattern of behavior, things that could be life or death, on their interpretation of a translation of a single word or phrase.
homoerection
You mean like never accepting a blood transfusion because blood is sacred? Yeah, they took some heat for that one.
RedCamaro
Lol. I just changed religions. Bye voyeur ghost family.
ishouldprobablybeplayingpokemonATM
What did you pick? Was it spaghetti monster or jedi?
RedCamaro
Science
ishouldprobablybeplayingpokemonATM
Science as a religion seems counterintuitive
RedCamaro
Ah but science as a science seems science
hamzaafridi47489
It's not funny motherfucker
KleptoKea
The people on the left could just as easily be Christians
foreverinchains
So many religious people act like the only thing keeping them from a rape and murder spree is the thought that god is watching, or the threat of hell.
If you require the promise of a reward to do good things, or the threat of punishment to not do bad things, you are not a good person.
Religion does not make people moral.
People are moral in spite of their religion, not because of it.
Religion is poison.
All of them.
Yes, even yours.
JellyandPudding
I agree with your statement, however I would still rather have religion existing to guide people in the direction of good. Imagine there are no laws in a country and it is up to the civilians to set their own morals and standards. Every person's ethics and moral codes are different, for those who holds it higher and impede judgement to those who drew the line lower, they aren't much different from the comic above. Religion as a whole isn't perfect but it helps lost sheep's, like a shepherd.
foreverinchains
There is nothing good about religion that requires religion, but no shortage of evil that does. You are a good person in spite of religion, not because of it.
You can have all of the benefits of any religion through purely secular means. If you're looking for an ideology to follow that leads to good, look into secular humanism. There's no way to interpret any of the tenets of secular humanism to justify any evil action.
Religion is poison.
kailord
“I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.” —Stephen F Roberts
Suomijuusto89
forte10
Wait, even mine? But I don't have a religion.
foreverinchains
If you don't have a religion, then I wasn't talking to you.
jakedafish
So many people think that rape and murder is justified by their religion.
foreverinchains
Well, rape and murder are endorsed by a lot of religious texts.
lutasch
And then there is the Flying Spaghetti Monster…
Sooner70
PREACH IT!
supervillin
Sure, ideally all people would be good people for the reason of being good, without the promise of reward or threat of punishment. I don't know how likely humanity is to reach 100% pure motivations though, how do we all live with each other in the meantime? Assuming we're not just swapping out Hell for Jail and want to actually fix people.
foreverinchains
Empathy can be taught, just like almost everything else.
You teach your children things all the time without intending to. Model better behavior for them. This isn't a problem that will magically be solved overnight, it's going to take several generations of work.
Stop teaching children what to think and start teaching them how to think. Healthy skepticism, good standards of evidence, and strong critical thinking skills will all help them for their entire lives.
WarlockWithNoPatron
Sure, ideally people would be good because their religion threatens them if they aren't. I don't know how likely religion is to reach 30%pure motivations though, how do we all coexist in the meantime? Assuming one group of zealots doesn't end the world and wants to fix it.
supervillin
I would completely disagree that first part is ideal. So by satiring this are you saying you dont want people to be good for the sake of being good? What is ideal then?
supervillin
satirizing*
WarlockWithNoPatron
Your comment seems to suggest that religion is the only reason some people behave themselves. I argue that while that may be true, more people act horribly in the name of their religion. I don't want humanity to leave behind religion so they will start doing good for its own sake. I want it left behind so people will stop doing evil for religion's sake.
Frozenspokes
My god is the sun. It's uncaring and indifferent to my joy and my suffering. But unlike your god, I can see it's light even on cloudy days. I can feel it's warmth on my skin. It's the source of all energy on the planet and without it we would all perish.
foreverinchains
Why bother calling it a god, though? We already have a perfectly adequate label for it: the sun. What is gained by calling it a god?
Frozenspokes
If you insist on the existence of a god. There you go. Sun worship is one of the most common forms of ancient religion.
foreverinchains
Why would you insist on the existence of a god, though? Ancient people worshipped the sun because they didn't know what it was (or what anything else was, really), and because humans tend to assign agency to things. I don't think that's a good reason to call the sun a god.
Frozenspokes
I don't actually consider a giant ball of hydrogen with a nuclear fusion reactor in the middle to be a god. It's simply my answer to those that insist on the existence of a god that we cannot perceive with any of our senses.
sbro11
proxy5000
FurToaster
Ive tried to say "im not disparaging, im describing" here on IMGUR and have been BLASTED DOWN to bottom of the points pit.... Im pretty sure with this post we can now be bastards to each other again!!
foreverinchains
EneZio
I'm mocking it. You're free to any religion you want and I'm free to think you're dumb af for believing in it.
vaiperu
Sadly there are some backwater countries that have anti blasphemy laws...
SlickWithaLimerick
I'm free not to go there.
HootimusMaximus
And vigilantes, A teacher in france got murdered for blasphemy
vaiperu
The more devout they are, the more they see murder as negotiable - George Carlin on the 10 commandments
HardTimeKillinFoulNews
And the worst thing about that is that there is a whole fringe of people posthumously victim-blaming him as Islamophobic because they conflate the systemic oppression of Muslim minorities in France with the exercise of civil liberties such as satire, caricature, and blasphemy. For context, that teachers "crime" was displaying press caricatures of the Muslim prophet in class (after allowing Muslim students to step out if they didn't wish to see them)
HardTimeKillinFoulNews
For further context, he was a history teacher, and the class was a citizenship education cours about freedom of speech)
Becker37
This is hell
roosengreen
This is getting a lot of downvotes for a website that usually has no issues with both criticism and mockery of other religions.
KPodol
Because it's targeted. It's not against religion.
roosengreen
Imgur has hundreds of posts reaching the front page that targets Christianity, both with valid criticism and just plain mockery that all priests are pedophiles, yet when Islam is on the recieving end its no longer valid.
Suomijuusto89
This is because people are hypocrites
KPodol
That's because it's a racist dogwhistle, it's just a "look at the bad brown people shouting at the good white people" there's no religious comment in the post.
gnomedeplume
because this meme was originally about evangelical Christians, y'know, the people who are actually telling everyone they're going to hell but for some reason it's targeting Muslims specifically
drinkthederpentine
Let me get this right. You think there are no Islamic sects telling people they are going to help? LOL
gnomedeplume
yes they are very helpful
Suomijuusto89
Hell is a sinner's heaven
Canonmk2
Well, the evangelical are christian extremists right? And they yell at you that you're going to hell for renouncing god, hold up placards saying bad stuff about lgbt+. But in some Muslim countries their extremists throw you off buildings headfirst for that stuff, so maybe they are due some slighty mocking memes
roosengreen
So.. the meme was okay when targeting Christians specifically, but not Muslims? I've seen the other versions too, and still have no issues with it.
Rayxzerox
It's got some big colorist energy going, the Christian version had white people of the same skin-tone on both sides, making the commentary squarely about religion.
KPodol
People not realizing this is a islamophobic post is pretty funny, not that funny when you know what is happening in France with the RN though...
thetinymonarch
How is it Islamiphobic? If it was saying Muslims were bad people I'd agree but it's not. If the people were wearing crosses would it be Christianphobic? If they had kippas would it be anti-semitic?
KPodol
Why are the bad brown people hating on the good white people in this post ? None, it's just some dog whistle.
Newitt
There is no such thing as Islamophobia. It is perfectly reasonable for people to be concerned about democratic Western norms knuckling under to creeping shariah and stealth jihad.
jag176
"no such thing as islamophobia" says hater of Muslims
ArcUlfr
That's bullshit. It is reasonable to be concerned with certain sects of Islam, but to tar all Muslims with that same brush is unacceptable. I've met leftist, pro-LGBT Muslims. I've met misogynistic atheists who share a bed (ideologically speaking) with Christo-fascists. Humans are very diverse; don't act as if every member of a large group like that must necessarily share ideals.
iamgurd
Some truth to this: Islamophobia - "created by fascists, used by cowards, to manipulate morons "
KPodol
Oh well, at least you're not hiding it lol.
Harbltron
"There is no such thing as Islamophobia" he said, before warning of the dangers of... Islam.
Newitt
A phobia is an *unreasoning* fear. There are plenty of sound reasons for free Westerners to fear ISIS, al-Qaeda, Islamic Jihad, Hamas, Hezbollah, Muslim Brotherhood, all the self-deployed lone wolf jihadists, etc.
Harbltron
Lol why would you be afraid of Hamas, they only exist in Gaza. Additionally you're only bringing-up violent extremist groups to smear an entire faith, which is laughable because you're far, far more likely to be killed by a white Christian nationalist than some Muslim guy... it's like if you asked me why I'm afraid of Christians and I responded with The KKK and other christo-fascict organizations.
ScorpionSage
Hamas is an Iranian proxy, and they’re dragging the Middle East into an all out war not to destroy Israel but to destroy America because we are solid allies either the only democratic state in the entire region. Why do you think all these idiot students are on the side of terrorism? Because this brainwashing has been in play for decades. They are destroying America from the inside and it’s working.
Subsound
What is happening in France?
KPodol
Far right party who is racist and openly islamophobic just won the legislative election, their main policy they campaign on is to cancel the "right of the soil" which is a french law that says that people born in France from immigrant parents residing in France (which obviously don't include tourist) are automatically french when they turn 18. They specifically target people who "we can see they are not really french on their face."
Subsound
So would this be okay with other faiths, just not Islam because France elected a far right bigot as their leader?
Canonmk2
Well, to be fair on the french its not christians who behead teachers in public for showing pictures of christ is it? Its dumbass muslim cultists, and its not the first time is it? That newspaper was attacked, the music venue etc.
KPodol
Well it is the christians who are raping little childrens though, but apparently that's somehow fine. In comparison the numbers of rapes by the catholic church is far more numerous that the numbers of attacks by a few extremist but somehow they are perfectly fine.
Ikwilstroopwaffels
Islamic extremists famously never rape children. Certainly not Muhammad. Nope.
Canonmk2
That is such a dumb response. Has it occurred to you that we know know about the appalling abuses catholic church has committed on children, because those responsible have been arrested for it? How is that ignoring it? I spent four years in Afghan, I know all about the perversions of islamists, that we weren't allowed to interfere with 'because of local custom bullshit' just look up bacha bazi
nothingtosee1006
Westerners spend 2 millennia forcing their religion as compulsory, enslaving whole populations in the name of their guy, currently enable genocides justified by religious bigotry…. Then go and make this to mock a religion where compulsion has always been impossible spiritually and prohibited even. Don’t project your religion and culture on everyone else, find other ways to deal with the cognitive dissonance of privilege
Newitt
Do a news search for keywords Pakistan Blasphemy, or for Love Jihad.
nothingtosee1006
No you can’t pretend this has ever happened to you even, but you know best because you think you’re a genius not just another $14 an hour loser spreading blatantly bigoted hate to feel like your better than someone for once in your shtt life
nothingtosee1006
Do you really want to tell me you honestly have this problem? Muslims forcing anything at you? Even talking to you?!?! While every church and cult is all over the place selling their crap? You really expect me to believe that?!?! Ok the
nothingtosee1006
WOOOOW NO WAAAAY. So I’m Muslim. You’d never know and I’ve never once heard or seen any of us trying to force ideas at anyone. We don’t come and knock on your door once even though there’s 2 billion of us. Have you never asked why?
ScorpionSage
Then why are there 22 Arab countries that used to have a bunch of other religions and cultures that are now extinct?
nothingtosee1006
Christianity is extinct? Or maybe it still exists in idk… millions of other places. Did you know Christianity itself replaced thousands of religions too? Anything old getting replaced is backwards to you? And regarding the claim that Islamic countries have no individual cultures still is the most insane level of ignorant bigotry. Also that was invented by zionists to justify extinguishing the Palestinian people and their culture by saying all Arabs are the same. Are all white couties 1 culture?
nothingtosee1006
Let me ask you this if you believe the 2004 propaganda so deeply, if Islam extinguished all cultures, that would mean there would be no difference between the culture in Indonesia and turkey right? 2 majority Muslim countries, no culture left in either according to you, right? You’d expect no difference if you went to the two of them? Are you COMPLETELY CONFIDENT
nothingtosee1006
I can’t do this anymore. I’m talking to a wall in this thread, talking to people without all the chromosomes. I’m done
Newitt
Do a news search for keywords Christians Attacked in Nigeria, Christians Attacked in Pakistan, Christians Attacked in Egypt, Christians Attacked in Indonesia, and so forth. My heart breaks for my coreligionists brutalized by crazed fundamentalist mobs, even though I myself am personally safe.
nothingtosee1006
Oh I see, you’re actually a bigot, I’m sorry. Yes yes all the Muslims are trying sooo hard to get you. It’s never been the Christians or just random criminals or anyone else attacking anyone. Let’s lock up those dirty brownies. All 2 billion of them
nothingtosee1006
Do a news search for keywords Gaza
nothingtosee1006
I want to check in on you, were you able to find safety from all the Muslims preaching at you and threatening you? Believe me, I reeeally want you to join my religion, we need people with incomplete brains to fix our toilets
Newitt
"Sir, I have found you an argument. I am not obligated to find you an understanding." -Dr. Johnson
lonepinkranger
If you're gonna call one religion out, call them all out
Lavvia
Typical it's all encompassing, and generally people call out the one that affects them the most i.e. Christianity in the US.
KPodol
That's how people get into the right wing pipeline... "Look religion is really bad, especially islam !" The fact that people don't even realize it is pretty sad. There was another comment who was lowkey suggesting great replacement shit.
lonepinkranger
Yeah insert any religion, BAM same difference. Don't need to be Islamiphobic about it
thetinymonarch
How is it Islamiphobic?
lonepinkranger
So you’re right, this isn’t Islamiphobic. I think it’s just what’s happening in Palestine right now, mass genocide, and the countless depictions of Muslims as bad people over the years in movies/tv shows/ memes has me feeling a certain disdain for this. That’s all. I get it tho, people should be allowed to make fun of things
Newitt
All criticism of Islam is off-limits to some people, who try to shut everyone else up by calling them Islamophobic. Conversely, when they ridicule Christianity, they never stop congratulating themselves on their own bravery.
iamgurd
The hypocrisy is baffling. No such thing as christophbia, mormonphobia, etc. but you're right. Exact same people heavily criticize Christianity thinks it's taboo to criticize Islam.