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While everyone is freaking out about America's net neutrality debacle, people in Australia might lose the ability to effectively encrypt their data. Sorry you kangaroo-loving obscene-heat-dwelling everything-wants-you-dead imgur users. Hope you can stay secure down there!
WhataboutBobWiley
hopefully they are like other gov'ts and farm out the development. That way its sure to have holes and bugs.
SniperTeamTango
He was quoted as saying the laws of math are great but the only laws that apply here are the australian laws... This isn''t gonna catch on.
echonite
What reason would companies have to comply? They start banning them? Yeah, that won't backfire quickly.
morakdais
As an American, I think that is a dangerous idea. I would offer help but our help never ends well
ForgotMyOtherAcct
As a fellow american, this has been floated a bunch of times here too. It's a common terrible idea.
romanaclef
Just another way to get backdoored by the govt.
Peregrine2976
Queue the following: foreign tech companies will just abandon Australia, and Australian companies will drag it out into a years-long...
Peregrine2976
...legal battle by refusing to do it.
tekcor
Bingo. I would block Australian IP addresses from my products before reducing security for everybody.
ChloeRed
Add in the UK. this is what the MayBot wants too
StephenBB81
Tech Companies would just have to create what BlackBerry did w/ their NOC, secured tunnels w/ ability to decrypt information at endpoints
boobcat
And remember Aus is a 5-Eyes Partner, giving US/UK/CAN/NZ govs a way into their citizens data too.
EatSleepHackRepeat
It's all fun an games until he gets hacked. Then he will be furious that there isn't additional security and better encryption.
RyoumiyaHaru
Sadly the people in government doesn't know who how behind the scene technology work aka the reason why shit like this is shit
Xirago2011
Theresa May and the UK conservative government are considering the same thing for a while now.
TheTittyLicker
What the fuckin fuck? Why the tit nipple in the cock bagscipade would anyone want to do that
Radix865
Because terrorists. Most likely.
BishopBerkeley
It's necessary, we can't go through this again: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emu_War
zackofspades
Never Fiveget.
GTalmighty
Are you guys even real?
Porecomesis
SOmetimes we wish we weren't.
HandoB4Javert
Never forget.
JoseDeLaNoWay
Outcome: Failure. Emu population persists.
TheDorkLordMalcolm
As someone named Malcolm this post makes me sad that someone would disgrace our good name by being such a total twat waffle
IFuckingLoveGoldenRetrievers
YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THE ONE TO SAVE US FROM THE BULLSHIT MALCOM! WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO YOU?!
AustinAlex
Yeah, like that was ever gonna happen...
tentaclefriendly
After all, there is NO POSSIBLE WAY some hacker won't take advantage of this.
MaltesersAreTheBest
It WILL be hacked. Probably in less than 30 dsys.
tentaclefriendly
Bud, you misspelled "hours" ;}
Magicmat
Worth noting, to their credit Facebook basically told him it will not happen in no uncertain terms.
MerToo
"when you're dumber & more ignorant than the usual Facebook crowd" though to be fair this was probably the tech-savvy end of the FB spectrum
TheBlackWindHowls
After the WannaCry ransomware bullshit that only happened because of leaked NSA tools, and this guy wants to make such exploits *law*?
shutsman
say goodbye to secure online banking and private messaging, way to make the country more safe ya cunt
SimiKusoni
I don't agree with the law, but you'd assume there would be exceptions. Or it would be outlawed specifically for messaging etc.
kernalphage
If you've got the time, watch this video. explains why it's hard to have exceptions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nypRYpVKc5Y
SimiKusoni
Actually policing a ban would be hard (well, impossible), legally exempting certain industries or use cases would not be.
SimiKusoni
*sorry, realised he's suggesting creating backdoors. Still retarded, but again could easily exempt certain industries from the requirement.
Imroy
Good point. When people hear "crypto" they think of people hiding stuff. But everyday financial transactions would be impossible without it.
Kitlia
Backdoors will just lead to the WannaCry fiasco all over again. But since it's encryption, even worse
StephenBB81
The legislation proposed has nothing to do with online banking, only P2P communication.
Corrodias
How exactly does it distinguish between the two?
StephenBB81
The distribution of the encryption. It wasn't long ago that encryption was considered arms, and developers where flagged as arms dealers
StephenBB81
They could simply require you to register your service to be legal, banks and such would without hesitation.
StephenBB81
Truthfully, it wouldn't stop p2p independent solutions from filling the void for people who really do want secured communication.
Corrodias
Hahah, by whom, Australia? I don't feel that really answered the question except in the broadest terms, though. What aspect of distribution?
StephenBB81
By Most countries.
DarkBusterBaron
@OP thank you for raising awareness.
ShaggyFromScoobyDoo
Joint revolution, anyone?
morethanamouthfull
The government is always "looking out" for you.
maugriman
There's always going to be an open source project which doesnt comply. I couldnt care less if using it is illegal, fuck off Trunchbull
tschallacka
It will only take a while before its reverted because all personal nudes and sex tapes of govt bobos will be on the net
Pandi66
If net neutrality is any sort of example politicians will build an exemption of their info into the bill
MylastaccountgotbandbecauseIpostednakedwomen
Don't forget the rampant identity theft and end of on line transactions
Cassiraa
like, an hour...
PizzaWolf
Don't be silly, politicians will still be allowed to encrypt their shit. That's how this works
BananaForBreakfast
They'll be using the same technology as everyone else...
ohnoofcourseyourright
Yea lawmakers have their own sets of laws. There's the prole laws and the inner party laws
Sevaceri
your assuming one thing. that they know what it means and how to use it. even if an IT guy sets it up they will fuck it up somehow 1/2
PizzaWolf
now ain't that just the truth
Sevaceri
dont forget the vast majority of hacks happen because bad security practices the DNC Hack someone used a site to make links shorter iirc.2/2
SharkyMcSnarkface
They'll probably revert it because of the rule 34 and furry stuff they'll gonna get.
IronicUsername
If various hacking and leaking scandals have shown me anything, it's that most politicians are too dumb to use encryption for personal shit.
DorthLous
When bank won't be able to do business online, I think it'll be reverted quite fast.
MAYORofTITTYciti
There will probably be some kind of exemption for things dealing with finance
SithElephant
I misread as 'goat boobs'
EgregiousCodswallop
I'm ready
AngryFoodTerror
SithElephant
http://www.grit.com/-/media/Images/GRT/Editorial/Blogs/Milk-Maid-Ranch/Development-of-a-Dairy-Goats-Udder/LaBrieudder.jpg
AngryFoodTerror
animatronicChristmasChickens
The PM also stated that the laws of Australia overrule the laws of mathematics
AngryFoodTerror
malikcarr
Why are .au politicians such shit? Rudd tried to firewall the entire internet there and Turnbull wants to force an encryption backdoor.
malikcarr
Like two PMs of completely different parties and ideological leanings, but they both agree they need to fuck up the internet.
MerToo
I knew a dude surname "Child" whose business website mysteriously got 0 hits in months, & after much digging & blocking he finds Aus has a
MerToo
unchallengeable blacklist for suspected CP sites that you can't find and can't know if you're on it nor get a correction if you're innocent
MerToo
aww ffs. and .nz and .uk and .us and .younameit The System Is Too Damn Broken!
malikcarr
Wait why is New Zealand on there? Remember the whole Kim Dotcom thing? They came out looking like the good guys for a change.
TheOtherAlan
Do they know what they are up against? This feels like the Donald suggesting healthcare is an easy problem to solve in the states.
creamedLead
It feels like so many countries are competing to see who can screw their citizens over the most.
ChloeRed
"Laws of maths are commendable, but only law that applies in Australia is law of Australia." Next he'll argue against the law of gravity?
d0o0o0d
Someone needs to tell him that legally setting pi = 3 would give Australia a huge mathematical advantage.
ChloeRed
Don't.. Bloody Stupid Johnson tried a wheel with pi=3, and look at the issues that caused the ankh-morpork postoffice! :)
StandardDeviant
Their circles would be superior to our circles! Mr. President, we cannot have, an arctan gap!
SanguineKnave
My favourite part was him basically saying the laws of maths do not apply in Australia
erischilde
This is it. Australia doesn't have the power to. States could try but I doubt even they'd succeed. It's happened, but there will always be/1
erischilde
An international, open patent option. PGP example.
ForgotMyOtherAcct
Quote by Turnbull, Aussie PM: "the laws of mathematics are commendable, but the only law that applies in Australia is the law of Australia."
MerToo
Please invite him to the Sydney Harbour Bridge, where I will assist him in gaining insight into other laws that most definitely apply.
iliketotravelandstuff
This would be hilarious if it wouldnt be so sad
ForgotMyOtherAcct
That was when he was being told it was mathematically impossible to allow for a government backdoor without fundamentally compromising the
Imagetap
What an absolut twat, and here I thought our Dutch legislators were a bunch of baffoons...well its not so much better actually
ForgotMyOtherAcct
Security of encryption. Any backdoor for the government will always, always be a backdoor for anyone at all.
IronicUsername
Jesus Christ, that is aggressively stupid (the PM's remark, not yours).
TheTittyLicker
Tell me this is a joke please. HOW fucking ass backwards can you get
ForgotMyOtherAcct
Absolutely not a joke. This has been floated legislatively in the US and the UK as well, multiple times. It sounds great if you're a
ForgotMyOtherAcct
A politician with no knowledge of how encryption works but plenty of knee-jerk reaction ability. Why not bend reality to your will? Just
ForgotMyOtherAcct
Because it's technically impossible never stopped their ignorance before.
AmnesiacAUS
How this twat even got elected is beyond me. I would rather have Trump, at least you can have fun with some of the stuff he comes up with...
IFuckingLoveGoldenRetrievers
The lesser of two evils. He used to have a backbone.
MaltesersAreTheBest
We usually refer to it as the lesser of 2 weasels.
AnonKneeMoose
How is he the lesser of two evils?
TheInvisiblePinkUnicorn
Well malcolm can just fuck right off and i think i stand for a fair few australians when i say that
PeanutsAreYum
You were the chosen one!
Magicmat
Amusingly, Facebook pretty much told him to do just that
QuadrumanousCuddler
Americans, too.
Apocallama
He made it so much harder to get work, and then as soon as i did find work, he cut penalty rates so i still couldn't pay my fucking rent.
PleaseLeave
Kummelit mainittu!
SadistinenFabio
Torille
MerToo
Unsurprisingly, Turnbull is a window-licking retard like most politicians, especially when it comes to matters of the Internet & security.
MerToo
Source: My local MP is fucktard Johnathon "the Internets is like Skynets from the Terminator" Young, noted for making us a net laughingstock
Fairdinkums
I'm with you, i fucking hate that man so much. We haven't had a decent PM for so long now we are stuck in the fucking stone age
MerToo
Just keep arguing over whether Sociopathic Fuckwit A is better than Sociopathic Fuckwit B while the rich get richer & you get poorer, please
MerToo
Oooh, look, some lesbian kittens in tiny matching waistcoats getting married in a hot air balloon!
ForgotMyOtherAcct
While he seems better than your last one, he still seems to suck pretty badly.
Blueanchorite
*looks at current rollout of our NBN and cries*
DeathB44Decaf
KEVIN '07 !!!! But yes...we are fukd. The state of politics in Australia is a joke. So behind and boring. Nothing innovative and progressive
MzJenni
Any problems are put aside 4 the next person in office to deal with, then off they go with their special politicians pension.
Fairdinkums
My biggest problem is how much we keep ignoring renewable energy sources and just keep focusing on mines. Its embarrassing
Fairdinkums
ALSO! your username, is that for THE death before decaf in Brissy??
ChloeRed
You aren't the only ones.. Here in the UK we don't exactly have a good record for them either..
MzJenni
He has little connection & understanding of the average Australian Get out of Point Piper, venture out of Sydney & wake the f"'k up!
Fairdinkums
Very true, he is not one for the people and seems to keep proving it month after month