Apr 3, 2018 7:13 PM
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amagiciannamedgob
Being delivery boy is their entire fucking job, you absolute fucking weapon.
bingotown
I'd bet my stock in Amazon that he has a buddy who shorted Amazon and was looking for a quick profit.
OrC23
The post office is literally delivery people...wtf.
thechelonianshelmet
If chimpius maximus doesn't shut up Amazon could decide to make a postal company to do deliveries for everyone, make profit & kill the USPO
DerrickSteen
Maybe that's why the USPS just throws my Amazon packages at my door instead of sitting them down in a nice careful fashion.
slynnchef
Sad. Our idiot president.
squirrelfury
Trump has ruined the word sad for me.
scottEkarate
It's like dealing with a four year old that wants to eat candy for dinner
TheGhostofElizabethShue
It's almost like the leader of the free world is a complete fucking dumbass who shouldn't be in the job. Has anyone had this hot take yet?
RatedMostHated
This is a sad time in America
LasciviousHedgehog
brrrackobama
Trump and reality have no relationship and never have.
notarepublican
The problem isn't that he's ignorant. We all are, to a degree. The problem is he refuses to learn or change when given facts and evidence.
TheBadPro
The beginning of Idiocracy before our eyes...what a time to alive lol Bush Original 2020!
cinematicheart
Jfc i would take any bush at this point.
johnste
He's not 'stupid'. This is him pushing back on the Washington Post coverage & setting up more "fake news" crap. Bezos owns Amazon & the Post
Mojayokok
God, if you voted for him you should be banned from voting in the future because you obviously have horrible judgment.
JediDavid
v
somethingdark
This whole thing makes more sense when you realize that Jeff Bezos also owns The Washington Post.
shoe47
Trumps response to everything: v
bluerazzgummy
I still truly cannot believe there are people who don’t regret voting this man in.
ydwyrd
TinyCactusss
My in laws love the guy still. Mom in law’s Facebook is fun.
March25at215am
My ex is still a Trump supporter. Yuck
flyeaglesfly17
Ex? You dodged a big ol crazy bullet there my friend
IWouldDoThings
What's scary is he apparently had something explained to him multiple times, and he still doesn't get it. I feel like this is most things.
It feels right to him, so how can it be wrong?
You sound just like the talky voice in his head
notme222
Most politicians do this and I think "OK, he's pandering to the anti-corporate left." Trump talks I figure he just hates Jeff Bezos.
reijigin
And you have guessed absolutely correctly, my friend!
pallentx
This is 100% about trying to get the Washington Post to write more favorably about him.
Canadoug
He's just jealous because he doesn't like when people have more than he does.
Munchman347
Since Trump has gone bankrupt several times, pretty much everything he owns belongs to somebody else, like the Saudis...
Cheomesh
Bezos is absolutely the billionaire Trump wishes he was.
Hammertulski
Trump needs to shut the fuck up. I could deal with tuning his unhinged idiocy out, but now my retirement is starting to take a massive hit.
williamross7
You lying shit, you snorted that shit like the rest of us!
I'm not getting the reference here, if there is one.
1Plebian
How so?
Hokaider
Commenter could have retirement investments (401k or IRA) in amazon. I heard amazon dropped more than 5% correlating with Trump's tweets.
Segagenesischalmers
I've lost 4k just the last week or two on amazon. Pretty annoying he feels he needs to single out a company.. even more annoying 1/2
2/2 the market decides to react, further increasing his ego
If it's any consolation, you could buy some more stock at the reduced rate. Just trying to keep our spirits up :-)
ah lol, that'll buff right out
metaspy
My dad works for the USPS, can confirm USPS gets paid well to deliver
Callistan
At this point, even Fox News is calling him out on his bullshit.
http://thehill.com/homenews/media/381542-foxs-shep-smith-fact-checks-trumps-amazon-claims-none-of-that-was-true
mukenwalla
Amazon gouges the government by not paying taxes in many ways, yet he finds the one thing they do pay for to whine about.
Haidere1988
Because he bragged about not paying taxes, duh
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
I literally don’t know a single semi smart person who doesn’t laugh at this guys name. Even republicans I know. Who is supporting this clown
ShadeEmberi
Trump is a polite term for fart in the UK, spewing noxious hot air... I laugh every time
giveitarestalready
I've always felt that people voted for him just because he makes liberals angry, rather than from real belief in his policies and positions.
Writingpastwit
I can absolutely confirm this belief based off of family members of mine who voted for him. No working platform, just ideology and spite.
My mom voted for him because she's scared of brown people.
Trump is the "angry kitchen staff spitting in your food" of electoral politics.
Mentok
Trolls and Russians.
Nah man there are some seriously dead eyed middle America mofos who still think this ivory tower dumb ass is up to something special.
mycatToastwasafatasshole
My insane grandmother who lives in Texas and thinks all "libtards" should kill themselves.
I think she should die peacefully in her sleep. Don’t get me wrong I wish death on your grandma but it doesn’t have to be so nasty
Seriously all she has left in her life is anger and bitterness. Her one redeeming quality is that she rescues dogs from high kill shelters.
ForbinDallas
Around 40% of the people in this country. And that’s fucking completely insane and terrifying to me.
Vatafeo
If you never have facts to back up your claims you are as worthless as your claims are
But yet there a portion of the population that will still blindly believe him despite the facts
69Voltage
Trump is clueless
ThatTransformersDude
He repeats what he sees in Fox News over his own intelligence briefings should say enough.
JaWannaKnow
Why does it hurt every time I hear this, it's not news, I know it's true, still hurts
theusernameformerlyknownastildo
I don't know how clueless he actually is, or just likes to employ a Wag the Dog like strategy on anyone he has a beef with. He gives /1
perfect, manageable bites for his loyalists that don't care to fact check it with any of the Fake News outlets. He still is bat shit crazy.
I just don’t think he’s that smart. He’s obviously insecure and terrified of making an unpopular decision. I think he likes the chaos....
Oh, I agree. he's nowhere near as smrt as he thinks he is. And you're right he LOVES chaos, pitting people against each other and then /1
goes in to his Executive Time to see how it plays out. The thing is, he's a showman and entertainer. Ratings are what matter to him and /2
because it’s easier to act the fool than to plan and initiate an intelligent course of action.
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Yeah, I think he's just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks. And what sticks is literal shit, unfortunately.
HootSloot
I don't think he knows he's doing it but yeah. I think he just grabs on to things just like his supporters, mostly from Fox probably.
It was reported today that he invited Lou Dobbs into conference calls and asks his opinion. The man is lost....
http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-reportedly-calls-fox-news-host-lou-dobbs-at-white-house-meetings-2018-4
TheMythicalJackalope
Yup! And I bet only his clueless supporters are the ones downvoting you
Lol, of course. Denial is strong with them.
Well, you know what they say. Denial is just a river in a place trump has a travel ban on.
Lmao!
IReactToCommentsInMemesAndGifs
Of course they do. Who except this moron thinks that they would pay to be their "Delivery boy"?
mrredbuttons
So they are definitely ripping the USPS off
AnythingMuchShorter
The voice in his head, same place he gets all his ideas from.
roads88mph
This is about going after the Washington Post, no more, no less.
True that. Let the lil' guy run his mouth a bit and he'll tire out.
Or better yet, let him piss of the world's richest man. See how that shakes out.
MediaMuerte
Bernie thinks it so as well
That bastard is outta touch as well... sheesh.
I work for the USPS. It costs us more to deliver their packages than what they are paying us bcuz of labor and transportation costs.
dancfontaine
USPS labor is sky high lol. You can make 100k there without being supervisor or anything
TraitorousTrump3
Then why does the Postal Regulatory Board review the agreement every year and deem it revenue positive?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/29/us/politics/trump-amazon-post-office-fact-check.html
SpunkyGoon
The 2006 law also mandated that each line of business within the postal service set its prices at least high enough to break even. In other
words, for the postal service to lose money on package delivery would be against the law. Copied straight from cbs news article.
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/post-office-lose-money-amazon-contract-usps-fact-check-trump-tweets-again-today-2018-04-03/
If you really work for the usps, then you should report it.
CitizenDickbag
This is flat-out untrue.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-the-post-office-gives-amazon-special-delivery-1522603826?mod=trending_now_1&tesla=y
That's not evidence. Opinion piece by a biased source. As has been noted, the law requires USPS to not lose money on parcel delivery.
Oh really? How so?
GothmogLordofBalrogs
Nice repeated opinion piece posting.
Thanks buddy
Prove it.
The U.S. Postal Service delivers the company's boxes well below its own costs."
Got something behind a paywall and not an opinion piece?
An opinion piece by a man with an M.B.A from Harvard
doinkus
U.S. Postal Service is a semi-independent federal agency, mandated to be revenue-neutral. It is supposed to break even, not make a profit.
OmnibusLatinName
And income taxes were supposed to be repealed after the war ended...
Thirsty4knowledge
Too bad our health care system doesn’t try to do the same!
PassionateIndifference
Tell that to Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac
spaghettiThunderbolt
Next you're gonna tell me the US government isn't a business, and isn't supposed to turn a profit.
downsouthfarm
The why is US postage the most expensive in the world?
CuddlyKitten
I bet Canadian is worse.... everything cost more here :s
hater626er
Revenue-neutral means to not make a profit or have a loss.
Rhenthalin
Hes from business and sees the Post Office not making money, just as you say and considers that a problem. Why he's latched on to Amazon idk
DavidBrooker
It isn't revenue neutral, but that's mostly because of a ridiculous congressionally-mandated pension scheme nobody else has to deal with.
Itsnameis
Thank you, it really sucks that they have to prefund their retirement 75 years in advance
koopaya
To clarify, the oversight is ridiculous and administration-intensive, the pension costs are not. People with 30+ years retire on that.
The pension benefits themselves are not ridiculous, no, but the pension funding scheme is ridiculous, and does add significant cost.
It's not a scheme, it's honest compensation to public workers who safeguard our kids for decades. I am okay with my high tax contribution.
"Scheme" was not disparaging. I meant it in the literal sense of a "large-scale systematic plan", which applies to all pension systems. 1/2
https://www.uspsoig.gov/blog/be-careful-what-you-assume
EasyRider387
^ YES!
disinfectantrum
That’s not really in question though. Even though Trump is wrong, his point wasn’t that they aren’t profiting, only that they were losing /2
Money, ie not even breaking even, but taking a net loss
Then why is it hemorrhaging money?
jridley
Because Congress controls the price of letter delivery and they're not allowing it to go up to what it costs. USPS loses money on letters.
At the top yes. They have been losing money on letters because congress controls the price of stamps - they are allowed to make it up elsewh
HarryBlackstoneCopperfieldDresden
Wait, what's your source on this? The USPS has a monopoly on paper mail, and historically have been making enough money from paper (1)
to subsidize other services. 12 years ago, the USPS was at its peak, which is also why congress passed a law restricting pricing. (2)
Paper mail has been in a drastic decline, though, and due to terse regulations and unionization, there's not a lot of room to (3)
reduce overhead. Their only option to avoid costing taxpayers $2-3B this year is to increase costs of the ever-growing parcel service.(4)
they've been losing money on the insane pension law that no other agency has. Everything else individually is mandated to be priced at
Break even or more.
QuackQuackAttack
The USPS is very likely to have 0 revenue in the future. They can’t promise employees pensions funded by future revenue be it won’t exist
dyxj
Why?
Who wants mail?
ProphetofEntropy
the post office was fine till congress started robbing their pension fund for extra money.
exactly. The last time the usps turned a profit was 2006, the year they forced them to prefund pensions. Of course they are going to lose $
BlackHartMTB
When a company or organization promises a pension... they should put that money aside at the time instead of relying on future revenue.
Then why is it not mandated for any other company or government agency? They are the only agency that has to fund their pension 75 years
There is an email at the bottom of the article. It also explains they legally have to prefund now. So both. ;) www.cnbc.com/amp/id/45018432
While USPS is unique in counting future pension obligations, this should simply be the standard accounting practice for all govt agencies
It honestly doesnt make sense to do this. You have to fund for inflation and wage increases over 75 years? That's an insane amount of money
If you’re promising an insane amount of money in the future, you need to fund it when promised. Not just hope future generations can/will
pleaseconsiderthatImightbejoking
It's not stamps that congress fucks the post office with, it's bulk mail discounts. The price of stamps has to go up to compensate.
bulk mail discounts are because the post office literally does less work when the mail is presorted
It is less work, but the discounts are a result of acts of congress, not a reflection of lower costs.
SFMGifs
Worked in a mail sorting gig. Boss had a hard time believing me when prices for outgoing keep going up.
The USPS lost $540M last quarter, alone. They aren't breaking even. They used to via subsidizing parcel service with paper service, but (1)
with the drastic decline in paper service, they can no longer subsidize it. The USPS is slated to lose over $2B this year. (2)
Yeah you fucks. So stop emailing and texting all the time
Every individual aspect of the usps is mandated to atleast run at break even. They lose money on having to fund a pension 75 years in...
Advanced, instead of funding it over 75 years.
Pensions are overhead. So are the rest of an employee's total compensation package. That's a cost of doing business for every business.
KoalasArentReal
No company sets aside every employee's pension when they start. It's insane.
But no other business or government agency has to fund a pension 75 years in advance.
Sallavar
Can we haz "US Medical Service" under mandate too pleez?!?
AgentHomo
We just have to tell him that insurance agencies called him a mean name and he would put all his effort into trying to destroy them.
Sandyundertones
If that is what you want, you have an easy choice in November.
unimportantname
No, stop getting sick if you're poor. It's that simple.
IceWeaselX
"Stop being poor."
JayEnfield
If you have insurance, don't get sick. If you don't have insurance don't get sick. If you're sick, don't get sick.
https://youtu.be/LnoD3NUux3M
You got it on the first try. Nice. :D
Can maybe ya pay your own way instead of asking us to pay for your bills? 1/2
LaysDownAMonster
Your taxes aren’t “paying someone else’s bills”; they’re your membership fee to be a part of - and benefit from - a functional society.
Yes, but the "fair" share of taxes shouldn't go into the medical bills of the "fast and furious", and the Hippocratic oath says no faves.
MindOfMobius
you know who pays for my emergency room bill when i can't afford insurance? you, and other tax payers. cheaper to just cover everyone.
DapperLordDestral
What? You live in a shack in the woods and don't send/receive mail? lmao
I order from Amazon... LMAO!
LiteralFish
You know thats how insurance works, right? If you have insurance and are healthy, youre paying for someone who isn't. 1/2
If you dont jave insurance because you're healthy, youre an idiot and if you get hit by a truck someday you'll be bankrupt.
And that folks, is the big picture.
Inappropesmagotes
You do realize it would help you too right?
I have good insurance from my job, but still, those bastards will probably get to me as well. My taxes are high enough.
Taxes don't have to go up for universal healthcare. We could easily take the money from our ridiculous military budget.
Taxes go up, you don't have to pay for insurance. Do you just hate poor people?
IlluminaBlade
Maybe the United States Government ensures that its people are healthy and not being subjected to profiteering in the medical industry.
Medical research isn't free, nor is the time it takes to become a doctor. There's a big picture here folks.
mattsap
Please note that medical research advances the current state of the field. I think this person aims to have existing medicine distributed.
It takes time to become a teacher too and they are equally indispensable so they should have similar incomes shouldn't they.
Allow me to lay out a Big Picture for your consideration. Please read to conclusion before replying, there'll be quite a few posts here.
2/2 Because education is available for better paying jobs, but with those, there is sweat. And no, I don't want to buy you brains either.
CyrusTheOk
You make me weepnfor humanity. When our civilization crumbles, at least I'll have someone to blame.
Here's a tissue... the ground is level for all. We all face the same probabilities in life.
bongles
Woops, I caught the cancer, shame I'm not a CEO so I could pay my own way..
Guess we'll all die. My wife has cancer too. And I smoke, drink, eat bad food... nobody is killing me but me.
amagiciannamedgob
Being delivery boy is their entire fucking job, you absolute fucking weapon.
bingotown
I'd bet my stock in Amazon that he has a buddy who shorted Amazon and was looking for a quick profit.
OrC23
The post office is literally delivery people...wtf.
thechelonianshelmet
If chimpius maximus doesn't shut up Amazon could decide to make a postal company to do deliveries for everyone, make profit & kill the USPO
DerrickSteen
Maybe that's why the USPS just throws my Amazon packages at my door instead of sitting them down in a nice careful fashion.
slynnchef
Sad. Our idiot president.
squirrelfury
Trump has ruined the word sad for me.
scottEkarate
It's like dealing with a four year old that wants to eat candy for dinner
TheGhostofElizabethShue
It's almost like the leader of the free world is a complete fucking dumbass who shouldn't be in the job. Has anyone had this hot take yet?
RatedMostHated
This is a sad time in America
LasciviousHedgehog
brrrackobama
Trump and reality have no relationship and never have.
notarepublican
The problem isn't that he's ignorant. We all are, to a degree. The problem is he refuses to learn or change when given facts and evidence.
TheBadPro
The beginning of Idiocracy before our eyes...what a time to alive lol Bush Original 2020!
cinematicheart
Jfc i would take any bush at this point.
johnste
He's not 'stupid'. This is him pushing back on the Washington Post coverage & setting up more "fake news" crap. Bezos owns Amazon & the Post
Mojayokok
God, if you voted for him you should be banned from voting in the future because you obviously have horrible judgment.
JediDavid
somethingdark
This whole thing makes more sense when you realize that Jeff Bezos also owns The Washington Post.
shoe47
Trumps response to everything:
v
bluerazzgummy
I still truly cannot believe there are people who don’t regret voting this man in.
ydwyrd
TinyCactusss
My in laws love the guy still. Mom in law’s Facebook is fun.
March25at215am
My ex is still a Trump supporter. Yuck
flyeaglesfly17
Ex? You dodged a big ol crazy bullet there my friend
IWouldDoThings
What's scary is he apparently had something explained to him multiple times, and he still doesn't get it. I feel like this is most things.
squirrelfury
It feels right to him, so how can it be wrong?
IWouldDoThings
You sound just like the talky voice in his head
notme222
Most politicians do this and I think "OK, he's pandering to the anti-corporate left." Trump talks I figure he just hates Jeff Bezos.
reijigin
And you have guessed absolutely correctly, my friend!
pallentx
This is 100% about trying to get the Washington Post to write more favorably about him.
Canadoug
He's just jealous because he doesn't like when people have more than he does.
Munchman347
Since Trump has gone bankrupt several times, pretty much everything he owns belongs to somebody else, like the Saudis...
Cheomesh
Bezos is absolutely the billionaire Trump wishes he was.
Hammertulski
Trump needs to shut the fuck up. I could deal with tuning his unhinged idiocy out, but now my retirement is starting to take a massive hit.
williamross7
You lying shit, you snorted that shit like the rest of us!
Hammertulski
I'm not getting the reference here, if there is one.
1Plebian
How so?
Hokaider
Commenter could have retirement investments (401k or IRA) in amazon. I heard amazon dropped more than 5% correlating with Trump's tweets.
Segagenesischalmers
I've lost 4k just the last week or two on amazon. Pretty annoying he feels he needs to single out a company.. even more annoying 1/2
Segagenesischalmers
2/2 the market decides to react, further increasing his ego
Hokaider
If it's any consolation, you could buy some more stock at the reduced rate. Just trying to keep our spirits up :-)
1Plebian
ah lol, that'll buff right out
metaspy
My dad works for the USPS, can confirm USPS gets paid well to deliver
Callistan
At this point, even Fox News is calling him out on his bullshit.
Callistan
http://thehill.com/homenews/media/381542-foxs-shep-smith-fact-checks-trumps-amazon-claims-none-of-that-was-true
mukenwalla
Amazon gouges the government by not paying taxes in many ways, yet he finds the one thing they do pay for to whine about.
Haidere1988
Because he bragged about not paying taxes, duh
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
I literally don’t know a single semi smart person who doesn’t laugh at this guys name. Even republicans I know. Who is supporting this clown
ShadeEmberi
Trump is a polite term for fart in the UK, spewing noxious hot air... I laugh every time
giveitarestalready
I've always felt that people voted for him just because he makes liberals angry, rather than from real belief in his policies and positions.
Writingpastwit
I can absolutely confirm this belief based off of family members of mine who voted for him. No working platform, just ideology and spite.
squirrelfury
My mom voted for him because she's scared of brown people.
giveitarestalready
Trump is the "angry kitchen staff spitting in your food" of electoral politics.
Mentok
Trolls and Russians.
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
Nah man there are some seriously dead eyed middle America mofos who still think this ivory tower dumb ass is up to something special.
mycatToastwasafatasshole
My insane grandmother who lives in Texas and thinks all "libtards" should kill themselves.
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
I think she should die peacefully in her sleep. Don’t get me wrong I wish death on your grandma but it doesn’t have to be so nasty
mycatToastwasafatasshole
Seriously all she has left in her life is anger and bitterness. Her one redeeming quality is that she rescues dogs from high kill shelters.
ForbinDallas
Around 40% of the people in this country. And that’s fucking completely insane and terrifying to me.
Vatafeo
If you never have facts to back up your claims you are as worthless as your claims are
flyeaglesfly17
But yet there a portion of the population that will still blindly believe him despite the facts
69Voltage
Trump is clueless
ThatTransformersDude
He repeats what he sees in Fox News over his own intelligence briefings should say enough.
JaWannaKnow
Why does it hurt every time I hear this, it's not news, I know it's true, still hurts
theusernameformerlyknownastildo
I don't know how clueless he actually is, or just likes to employ a Wag the Dog like strategy on anyone he has a beef with. He gives /1
theusernameformerlyknownastildo
perfect, manageable bites for his loyalists that don't care to fact check it with any of the Fake News outlets. He still is bat shit crazy.
69Voltage
I just don’t think he’s that smart. He’s obviously insecure and terrified of making an unpopular decision. I think he likes the chaos....
theusernameformerlyknownastildo
Oh, I agree. he's nowhere near as smrt as he thinks he is. And you're right he LOVES chaos, pitting people against each other and then /1
theusernameformerlyknownastildo
goes in to his Executive Time to see how it plays out. The thing is, he's a showman and entertainer. Ratings are what matter to him and /2
69Voltage
because it’s easier to act the fool than to plan and initiate an intelligent course of action.
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Yeah, I think he's just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks. And what sticks is literal shit, unfortunately.
HootSloot
I don't think he knows he's doing it but yeah. I think he just grabs on to things just like his supporters, mostly from Fox probably.
69Voltage
It was reported today that he invited Lou Dobbs into conference calls and asks his opinion. The man is lost....
69Voltage
http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-reportedly-calls-fox-news-host-lou-dobbs-at-white-house-meetings-2018-4
TheMythicalJackalope
Yup! And I bet only his clueless supporters are the ones downvoting you
69Voltage
Lol, of course. Denial is strong with them.
TheMythicalJackalope
Well, you know what they say. Denial is just a river in a place trump has a travel ban on.
69Voltage
Lmao!
IReactToCommentsInMemesAndGifs
Of course they do. Who except this moron thinks that they would pay to be their "Delivery boy"?
mrredbuttons
So they are definitely ripping the USPS off
AnythingMuchShorter
The voice in his head, same place he gets all his ideas from.
roads88mph
This is about going after the Washington Post, no more, no less.
IReactToCommentsInMemesAndGifs
True that. Let the lil' guy run his mouth a bit and he'll tire out.
roads88mph
Or better yet, let him piss of the world's richest man. See how that shakes out.
MediaMuerte
Bernie thinks it so as well
williamross7
That bastard is outta touch as well... sheesh.
mrredbuttons
I work for the USPS. It costs us more to deliver their packages than what they are paying us bcuz of labor and transportation costs.
dancfontaine
USPS labor is sky high lol. You can make 100k there without being supervisor or anything
TraitorousTrump3
Then why does the Postal Regulatory Board review the agreement every year and deem it revenue positive?
TraitorousTrump3
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/29/us/politics/trump-amazon-post-office-fact-check.html
SpunkyGoon
The 2006 law also mandated that each line of business within the postal service set its prices at least high enough to break even. In other
SpunkyGoon
words, for the postal service to lose money on package delivery would be against the law. Copied straight from cbs news article.
SpunkyGoon
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/post-office-lose-money-amazon-contract-usps-fact-check-trump-tweets-again-today-2018-04-03/
SpunkyGoon
If you really work for the usps, then you should report it.
CitizenDickbag
This is flat-out untrue.
mrredbuttons
https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-the-post-office-gives-amazon-special-delivery-1522603826?mod=trending_now_1&tesla=y
CitizenDickbag
That's not evidence. Opinion piece by a biased source. As has been noted, the law requires USPS to not lose money on parcel delivery.
mrredbuttons
Oh really? How so?
GothmogLordofBalrogs
Nice repeated opinion piece posting.
mrredbuttons
Thanks buddy
Mentok
Prove it.
mrredbuttons
The U.S. Postal Service delivers the company's boxes well below its own costs."
mrredbuttons
https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-the-post-office-gives-amazon-special-delivery-1522603826?mod=trending_now_1&tesla=y
Mentok
Got something behind a paywall and not an opinion piece?
mrredbuttons
An opinion piece by a man with an M.B.A from Harvard
doinkus
U.S. Postal Service is a semi-independent federal agency, mandated to be revenue-neutral. It is supposed to break even, not make a profit.
OmnibusLatinName
And income taxes were supposed to be repealed after the war ended...
Thirsty4knowledge
Too bad our health care system doesn’t try to do the same!
PassionateIndifference
Tell that to Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac
spaghettiThunderbolt
Next you're gonna tell me the US government isn't a business, and isn't supposed to turn a profit.
downsouthfarm
The why is US postage the most expensive in the world?
CuddlyKitten
I bet Canadian is worse.... everything cost more here :s
hater626er
Revenue-neutral means to not make a profit or have a loss.
Rhenthalin
Hes from business and sees the Post Office not making money, just as you say and considers that a problem. Why he's latched on to Amazon idk
DavidBrooker
It isn't revenue neutral, but that's mostly because of a ridiculous congressionally-mandated pension scheme nobody else has to deal with.
Itsnameis
Thank you, it really sucks that they have to prefund their retirement 75 years in advance
koopaya
To clarify, the oversight is ridiculous and administration-intensive, the pension costs are not. People with 30+ years retire on that.
DavidBrooker
The pension benefits themselves are not ridiculous, no, but the pension funding scheme is ridiculous, and does add significant cost.
koopaya
It's not a scheme, it's honest compensation to public workers who safeguard our kids for decades. I am okay with my high tax contribution.
DavidBrooker
"Scheme" was not disparaging. I meant it in the literal sense of a "large-scale systematic plan", which applies to all pension systems. 1/2
Itsnameis
https://www.uspsoig.gov/blog/be-careful-what-you-assume
EasyRider387
^ YES!
disinfectantrum
That’s not really in question though. Even though Trump is wrong, his point wasn’t that they aren’t profiting, only that they were losing /2
disinfectantrum
Money, ie not even breaking even, but taking a net loss
MediaMuerte
Then why is it hemorrhaging money?
jridley
Because Congress controls the price of letter delivery and they're not allowing it to go up to what it costs. USPS loses money on letters.
pallentx
At the top yes. They have been losing money on letters because congress controls the price of stamps - they are allowed to make it up elsewh
HarryBlackstoneCopperfieldDresden
Wait, what's your source on this? The USPS has a monopoly on paper mail, and historically have been making enough money from paper (1)
HarryBlackstoneCopperfieldDresden
to subsidize other services. 12 years ago, the USPS was at its peak, which is also why congress passed a law restricting pricing. (2)
HarryBlackstoneCopperfieldDresden
Paper mail has been in a drastic decline, though, and due to terse regulations and unionization, there's not a lot of room to (3)
HarryBlackstoneCopperfieldDresden
reduce overhead. Their only option to avoid costing taxpayers $2-3B this year is to increase costs of the ever-growing parcel service.(4)
SpunkyGoon
they've been losing money on the insane pension law that no other agency has. Everything else individually is mandated to be priced at
SpunkyGoon
Break even or more.
QuackQuackAttack
The USPS is very likely to have 0 revenue in the future. They can’t promise employees pensions funded by future revenue be it won’t exist
dyxj
Why?
QuackQuackAttack
Who wants mail?
ProphetofEntropy
the post office was fine till congress started robbing their pension fund for extra money.
SpunkyGoon
exactly. The last time the usps turned a profit was 2006, the year they forced them to prefund pensions. Of course they are going to lose $
BlackHartMTB
When a company or organization promises a pension... they should put that money aside at the time instead of relying on future revenue.
SpunkyGoon
Then why is it not mandated for any other company or government agency? They are the only agency that has to fund their pension 75 years
BlackHartMTB
There is an email at the bottom of the article. It also explains they legally have to prefund now. So both. ;) www.cnbc.com/amp/id/45018432
QuackQuackAttack
While USPS is unique in counting future pension obligations, this should simply be the standard accounting practice for all govt agencies
SpunkyGoon
It honestly doesnt make sense to do this. You have to fund for inflation and wage increases over 75 years? That's an insane amount of money
QuackQuackAttack
If you’re promising an insane amount of money in the future, you need to fund it when promised. Not just hope future generations can/will
pleaseconsiderthatImightbejoking
It's not stamps that congress fucks the post office with, it's bulk mail discounts. The price of stamps has to go up to compensate.
pallentx
bulk mail discounts are because the post office literally does less work when the mail is presorted
pleaseconsiderthatImightbejoking
It is less work, but the discounts are a result of acts of congress, not a reflection of lower costs.
SFMGifs
Worked in a mail sorting gig. Boss had a hard time believing me when prices for outgoing keep going up.
HarryBlackstoneCopperfieldDresden
The USPS lost $540M last quarter, alone. They aren't breaking even. They used to via subsidizing parcel service with paper service, but (1)
HarryBlackstoneCopperfieldDresden
with the drastic decline in paper service, they can no longer subsidize it. The USPS is slated to lose over $2B this year. (2)
dancfontaine
Yeah you fucks. So stop emailing and texting all the time
SpunkyGoon
Every individual aspect of the usps is mandated to atleast run at break even. They lose money on having to fund a pension 75 years in...
SpunkyGoon
Advanced, instead of funding it over 75 years.
HarryBlackstoneCopperfieldDresden
Pensions are overhead. So are the rest of an employee's total compensation package. That's a cost of doing business for every business.
KoalasArentReal
No company sets aside every employee's pension when they start. It's insane.
SpunkyGoon
But no other business or government agency has to fund a pension 75 years in advance.
Sallavar
Can we haz "US Medical Service" under mandate too pleez?!?
AgentHomo
We just have to tell him that insurance agencies called him a mean name and he would put all his effort into trying to destroy them.
Sandyundertones
If that is what you want, you have an easy choice in November.
unimportantname
No, stop getting sick if you're poor. It's that simple.
IceWeaselX
"Stop being poor."
JayEnfield
If you have insurance, don't get sick. If you don't have insurance don't get sick. If you're sick, don't get sick.
unimportantname
https://youtu.be/LnoD3NUux3M
JayEnfield
You got it on the first try. Nice. :D
williamross7
Can maybe ya pay your own way instead of asking us to pay for your bills? 1/2
LaysDownAMonster
Your taxes aren’t “paying someone else’s bills”; they’re your membership fee to be a part of - and benefit from - a functional society.
williamross7
Yes, but the "fair" share of taxes shouldn't go into the medical bills of the "fast and furious", and the Hippocratic oath says no faves.
MindOfMobius
you know who pays for my emergency room bill when i can't afford insurance? you, and other tax payers. cheaper to just cover everyone.
DapperLordDestral
What? You live in a shack in the woods and don't send/receive mail? lmao
williamross7
I order from Amazon... LMAO!
LiteralFish
You know thats how insurance works, right? If you have insurance and are healthy, youre paying for someone who isn't. 1/2
LiteralFish
If you dont jave insurance because you're healthy, youre an idiot and if you get hit by a truck someday you'll be bankrupt.
williamross7
And that folks, is the big picture.
Inappropesmagotes
You do realize it would help you too right?
williamross7
I have good insurance from my job, but still, those bastards will probably get to me as well. My taxes are high enough.
LiteralFish
Taxes don't have to go up for universal healthcare. We could easily take the money from our ridiculous military budget.
Inappropesmagotes
Taxes go up, you don't have to pay for insurance. Do you just hate poor people?
IlluminaBlade
Maybe the United States Government ensures that its people are healthy and not being subjected to profiteering in the medical industry.
williamross7
Medical research isn't free, nor is the time it takes to become a doctor. There's a big picture here folks.
mattsap
Please note that medical research advances the current state of the field. I think this person aims to have existing medicine distributed.
IlluminaBlade
It takes time to become a teacher too and they are equally indispensable so they should have similar incomes shouldn't they.
JayEnfield
Allow me to lay out a Big Picture for your consideration. Please read to conclusion before replying, there'll be quite a few posts here.
williamross7
2/2 Because education is available for better paying jobs, but with those, there is sweat. And no, I don't want to buy you brains either.
CyrusTheOk
You make me weepnfor humanity. When our civilization crumbles, at least I'll have someone to blame.
williamross7
Here's a tissue... the ground is level for all. We all face the same probabilities in life.
bongles
Woops, I caught the cancer, shame I'm not a CEO so I could pay my own way..
williamross7
Guess we'll all die. My wife has cancer too. And I smoke, drink, eat bad food... nobody is killing me but me.