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https://www.businessinsider.com/drones-home-insurance-cancellation-2024-4
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerdooley/2024/03/12/your-driving-data-may-be-sold-to-insurers-general-motors-reveals/?sh=58db388656ef
https://ia.acs.org.au/article/2024/how-data-collection-is-helping-businesses-gouge-you.html
I cannot stress this enough - use adblockers, deny adware when you use websites, use VPNs, if you can set up a personal VPN server, use DuckDuckGo and other anonymized web browsers. The less cohesive data picture the major companies have, the better for you. Sorry for the sad post. Below is a meme to make up for it.
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Freestila
Just move to europe. Here most if this would be illegal. Cars can only collect data if you allow it, so does insurance companies. Flying a drone over my house? Illegal without my permit.
LincLoud
Not surprised
Quaxx
Get rid of Google services from your phone. Move to open source android. Use F-Droid instead of Play Store.
ElbowDeepInYou
Pretty soon not having data on you just means that they'll put you in the highest priced tiers, assuming you're high risk.
ConditionallyUnconditional
Unfortunately, you’re probably correct.
bikergeek6249
Yep. "You won't let us collect data? Fine, that'll be $10,000 a year for insurance."
DidItForScience
They will only insure people they are sure they probably will never have to pay out.
TheOnlyPtylerdactyl
#1 brb looking up net guns online
MapleSyrupMafia
Why commit a simple crime when you can make it crime brûlée?
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cuddleskunk
#2 "Driving your car on the *open road*...last bastions of *privacy*" What? Seriously? You are literally required to get a license plate which makes your vehicle easily identifiable for a central database, and it isn't illegal for anyone to point a camera at a public road. I agree with most of these images, but cars have never been bastions of privacy.
Schlumpfi
And: Get a pihole ( https://pi-hole.net/ ) - it's the best you can do @home (and if you use a private VPN Connection when you are around it can be of great use there, too). VPN Companies try to sell there services as "protective", but that's not true.....
beachbum273
Bring on the Butlerian Jihad.
MariusVentus
As someone in the AI space, I am continually pissed by all the Crypto/NFT-Bros who jumped from their sinking ship during the last crash and started polluting AI with their scams and get-rich-quick schemes. AI isn't the problem, it's the people who have been pushing to horde your data since before ML was even widely used, the people who continually lobby against needed data protections (in the US), and the people who hopped on the "AI" buzzword once they saw how much money was in it.
Idontneedrealfacts
All data collection is to gouge you. Grocery Loyalty cards expecially. "But I save money" no you dont, no company is giving you a deal, they are manipulating you to spend more in the end. "But my data isnt worth that much" The richest men in the world are all data merchants, "I saved a dollar a gallon on my gas" Again, they arent giving you jack-all they inflate prices to make you think you are saving, corps dont give away a cent unless it will make them 2
JambaJoose01
cousteau
Fucking Lidl. "Come shop now, you have a free chocolate bar!" "Hi I come for the free chocolate bar" "I'm sorry, we're out of chocolate bars" (or the sneakier "Good, that'll be $1 because you got the wrong chocolate bar which was on the wrong shelf; the free ones are gone")
Copperbrat
All those cancelled policies are hurting their profits. So now they're sending out mass mailings to those left, letting them know their policies are outdated and their rates are increasing.
moecurlylarry
Kind of scary isn’t
GBMaker
it.
moecurlylarry
Oopss
linexnewt
BEWARE! 13 yrs ago I lived in AZ, one day I got a letter from my Ins Co stating they were going to drop my policies if I didn't go to rehab within 30 days. I called my Ins guy who had all of our policies, he said he couldn't discuss it. After much pleading, he said it was because on the intake questionnaire at the Dr from a recent visit the nurse had marked me as a pot smoker - which I am not. After many calls to the Dr office I had to threaten legal action. They sent a correction to my Ins Co.
linexnewt
Please note - they were not my healthcare provider. They had Home/Car/Life insurance. Not only that, but they didn't even attempt to validate the info they got from the Dr, where I had been going for 7 years. I never went back.
bikergeek6249
I am VERY careful about what goes into my medico-legal records. I don't indulge in weed but if I did I would not be telling my doctor about it. (And this is why, unless you absolutely need it, you're better off without a medical card if recreational is legal in your state.) On the other hand, if you ever have surgery, you have to tell your anaesthesiologist--because they need to up the dosage for weed users
KAPTKipper
They "say" they used a drone, but they just use Google earth/maps
IAlwaysUpvoteLowBudgetCreativeWork
Don't forget Facebook. Largest human behavior/control lab ever made.
Wokerati
BuT ThE GuBmINt WaNtS tO pUt MiCrOcHiPs IN mE
JambaJoose01
AwkwardErection
Algorithmic pricing... not sure if this is an example of that but a convenience store chain where I live charges $1.50 for coffee any size *except* at the location in the rich towns where they charge by the size and they charge more, starting at $1.94. This is a recent development. Used to stop at one in a rich town on my way to work but now I take a different route to get cheaper coffee lol
aThingWithTheStufAndTheJunk
Conversely, big box stores often charge more in low-income neighborhoods. Even places like Home Depot where they do price matching, the easy-to-steal stuff is all more expensive ostensibly to offset losses from theft.
TheGhostofElizabethShue
JambaJoose01
Illegal hotel chain (AirBnB/Vrbo) is the funniest to me.
Fedotia
Social media pushing depression into teens and rooskie propaganda into the guillibles should be top of that list.
Zuir
Never understood the technophobia and that cherry picking. Instead of going for the incredible Alpha Folder to study protein, iStar to diagnose cancer... they pick technologies which issue is the regulation from the administration
whitefoxkei
Zuir
Sadly not 😢 I wish but there are more and more anti science people in any social media platform
ravnicrasol
The current biggest plagiarism machine is Youtube/Tiktok/Instagram.
While AI has the whole "took content for training without permission", the social-media apps are currently plagued by influencers whose whole content output is direct and unequivocal theft.
Here's a litteral 4 hour documentary made by HBomberguy himself breaking down some of the most high-profile cases: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDp3cB5fHXQ
And another from Kyle Hill: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McM3CfDjGs0
Nalianna
Wait til you see ChatGPT
ravnicrasol
I have, it doesn't go out of its way to plagiarize someone's work unless you very explicitly lead it down that rabbit hole and/or ask it to.
twuck
So because it's not specifically taking from any one source that's better?
ravnicrasol
This is a "Would you rather get shot in the head or the foot" question. But even then? Yes.
Social Media Plagiarists (A) Steal the content directly and sell it off as their own. (B) Harass anyone who points out the source (sometimes even doxing). (C) Sue/Countersue the original creators. (D) Through ALL of this, they directly squash potential for income/growth for those content creators (as well as sometimes even ruining their lives directly).
zylokun
The drones are trespassing on private property. Shoot them down
genericanamoly
That's a felony. Drones are considered aircraft, just the same as a normal plane. I get the sentiment, although I highly don't recommend knocking drones out of the sky.
OdinYggd
No, unless it is displaying police identification marks it is getting shot down. The FAA does not control below 500 feet.
genericanamoly
Who told you that? Got a source for that? Because that's normally what people say when they think they own any part of the air.
genericanamoly
Nothing? Just a downvote? That's okay. Not the first time some idiot has come along with the whole FAA doesn't own this airspace or my backyard is private. Drones are required to be registered with the FAA if they weigh over 250g. You shoot the drone down, you shot something that the FAA regards as a registered plane regardless of where it is. Second, I assume "shoot" is with a gun. Which is another crime depending on the location to unload firearms in city limits. 3rd, by shooting a drone>
genericanamoly
Which unlike a bird, doesn't exactly fall out of the air. It can cause the drone to spin and fly into a highway, or sensitive infrastructure and it will be your fault. Drones have crazy flight info, and FAA are gonna know what the drone was doing. Better hope you have one really good excuse, was perfectly sober, and can prove the pilot was acting irresponsibly. That's just if it's a recreational flying drone. Shoot a business one down your fucked. Good luck though.
genericanamoly
*you're
TunnelRat13
Look for tools that click everything before removing the ads. Muddy their data with garbage.
peeeopeepeee
I keep my car insurance app disabled on my phone until I need to use it as I know some day they are going to use it's accelerometer data to some day judge my movement and change my rates. I'm just glad I'm handy enough to keep my old data-less car on the road, I don't ever want to own something that phones home.
wishiewashy11
Could any app with location data turned on sell that info? I deliver for doordash and they recently added a "feature" that monitors my driving habits. I'm pretty sure they are selling that info.
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bigthoughtshappen
Geico is one of the shittiesr insurers and you have to legally opt in for telematics which tracks info to influence rates. Technically they cannot do that unless you opt in which they are required to clearly ask if you are opting in
LCDC
Any car that has onstar keeps the data on hard braking or driving fast and sends it to your insurance company. You can request your lexisnexis report for free and see how much data they have on you. It’s crazy how big your file can be and how intrusive it really is
bottledham
How the hell does it know who your insurance company is?
zeros000
Your name, address and vehicle registration plate
bottledham
How would the Onstar inside your car know your address and license plate?
zeros000
Analytics, it gets installed on the car with xyz VIN number. It gets sold, that VIN number never changes, so even if reg plates change, you can look up reg number from the vin number. And even if you have just one, the databases for who owns it are available to the speeding cameras, so most probably, it's a database onstar can pay for from which they'll have all your details.
LCDC
By the vin number. They compile a report every couple months and sell your info. If you ever get a rate increase that seems a bit high it’s likely they pulled your report.
Corrodias
You have a car insurance *app*? What does it *do*?
peeeopeepeee
Let's me pay my bill, file claims, and check claim updates. Seeing as I'm in the middle of a lawsuit, it's been pretty handy.
comacomacomacomachameleon
so it does all the things the website can do, but with added spying capabilities. Got it.
peeeopeepeee
The website sucks on mobile tho, and it can't spy on me any more than the website can given I disable the app.
JanglesPrime
I put it on my phone for convenience to show proof of insurance to police and some other things. But apparently cops don't need it anymore. They can get it by scanning your plate or swiping your license.
aThingWithTheStufAndTheJunk
Which they're now using fixed, solar-powered cameras at intersections to do.
ZachariasWolfe
I have one that tracks my driving, in exchange for a price reduction just for having it installed plus another reduction for good driving. I turned off notifications and the app is so shitty that it broke the data collection so I just get the one reduction.
onlyforn00ds
One question. Why do you have an app for your car insurance on your phone? Outside of address changes or updating CC info, I've only >
onlyforn00ds
> actually needed to access/use my insurance...twice in the 16 years I've had it.
peeeopeepeee
I've been in 3 accidents in the last 6 years and I wasn't at fault for any of them. Not to mention windshield replacements when a rock destroys it. I drive 45,000 miles a year in Illinois, being able to access it at any time is pretty nice.
ShadusMacAoidh
I only have it installed because it's the only proof of insurance I get.
bigthoughtshappen
Unless the policy contract allows it or you opt in they literally cannot do that
Mayfly10
Won't they just assume the 'most risky' model for you if they don't get data?
peeeopeepeee
That sounds like a class action just waiting
certainlynotaserialkiller
i got a new car last year and ripped the sim card out of the dashboard unit immediatly. within weeks i got calls from 2 different people (someone that worked for the brand of the car and a guy from the insurance company) to bring the car back as they cant get any tracking data from the car and are ROYALLY pissed about it. fun fact: i told them both to take a hike.
pfshfine
How would one go about finding out if their specific vehicle had one of these, and then how to safely remove it?
certainlynotaserialkiller
google is your friend. it will probably involve removing the infotainment or more. and dont forget the onstar module, you can get special plugs you can put on the antenna cable to stop it phoning home. that thing also sends lots of data back.
instanoodles
same except it uses eSIMs so I disconnected the antenna wires from the head unit.
JohnThatcher
/gallery/n00QKnH
DWRPIconDumper
You the real MPV.
certainlynotaserialkiller
good link. and yes, i also disabled the module as soon as i knew how.
JohnThatcher
I have a new pickup. I haven't yet disabled the telematics antenna yet but it is 100% on my list of things to do.
JanglesPrime
Out of curiosity, is there any downside to doing that? Does it disable any functionality? IDK if I'll when if ever I'll afford a new car. Maybe when all the used Honda Fits are dead.
certainlynotaserialkiller
there is no downside. prehaps the infotainment will complain but with the right obd computer you can turn off those features so it stops complaining.
wandermanspacebot
What's the purpose of the car brand tracking it after you purchased it? And the insurance company? Never bought a new car in my life so I am so confused.
certainlynotaserialkiller
the car brand is selling the data and without the sim they cant get any data. the car got flagged for not sending data so they issued a recall to check.
wandermanspacebot
So ridiculous. This may be a stupid question, but who are they selling it to and why?
certainlynotaserialkiller
they sell to data brokers wich then sell the data to inshurance companies and others.
MAN9000
Chain restaurants, hotels, tourist attractions, grocery stores, has stations etc. will all send you targeted ads based on your location. The address will show up on social media, news feeds, ads in music and video streaming services, emails, texts, phone calls, etc. You might not even notice the ads but they are getting in your head subtle and influencing you. People complain about social media influencers while completely ignoring the infinitely more invasive corporate influencers.
lysani
That's why I use ad/script blockers on everything.
MAN9000
*gas not has, *subtly
Trollingstoned
I need the know-how to do this. Everyone does, in fact. Do you have any good source or did you already know what to do?
certainlynotaserialkiller
it depends on each car so you need some google-fu. some cars dont have a sim but a "digital" esim you cant remove. then you are best off killing the gsm antenna liek you can/must with the onstar module as shown here: /gallery/n00QKnH. dont forget axing the onstar, that one also sends data.
PutItInNeutral
Did that void the warranty on the vehicle?
certainlynotaserialkiller
no. the sim card is not relevant to the warranty. you might claim warranty when the system does not work because of a broken sim but i dont know why anyone would like all their vehicle and tracking data being transmitted and sold.
Corrodias
That is unless the warranty included a clause that the SIM unit must be maintained and the data must be collected in order for the warranty to be valid. I wonder whether that would hold up in court. I see no reason it wouldn't.
certainlynotaserialkiller
it does not. plenty of lawsuits have been had about this kind of stuff. cant deny warranty on a busted engine because the brain box in the dash could not send your tracking info back to the mothership to be sold off.
Corrodias
Interesting. Can you point me toward anything I could read about that? I'm not sure what to search for.
cousteau
Tinfoil nutjobs: "Phones and other GPS tech track you." Normal people: "Don't be silly, that's impossible. How would they do such a despicable thing?" News: "Turns out phones and other GPS tech DO track you." Normal people: "Meh, makes sense I guess, who doesn't nowadays?"
cousteau
("I don't want to have a phone" level of tinfoil nutjobs, not "Vaccines contain a microchip that tracks you but I use a phone with GPS and a permanent internet connection I pay for" level of tinfoil nutjobs)
NonstopRampage
So what you're saying is, shoot em down?
throwaway12345432
#1 No, they are looking for reasons to deny your claims. They are still happy to take your money.
DonkeyGoat
https://youtu.be/BAjAySmuvz0?si=7Qvg_Wci8_QX1m0F
Dezrustrian
Don't forget Imgur, which I've had open for less than 10 minutes.
JambaJoose01
beeeeeeerkaaaaa
How do you see the report?
lysani
The new Imgur layout on PC also tries to constantly run scripts in the background, even if you just leave the page sitting idle.
Schlumpfi
Just Use a pi-hole, that greatly reduces every tracking there is.
4t0m1c4
I so easily forget that my pihole makes the internet tolerable
JustDaShoemaker
Uh How do you block these?
kojenk
Blockade helps
cousteau
Use a browser instead. The new version of the site lets you comment from a mobile browser. Then ad blocker (e.g. AdGuard for iPhone, Firefox + uBlock Origin for Android)
MeestowKitty
uBlock Origin.
telemonianajax
How do I use that in the Imgur app?
MeestowKitty
You don't. But then again, I don't use the app because you have less control over things like that.
IDontKnowWhatToDoAnymoreAndImTired
If you're on Android, get yourself a copy of AdGuard. It can filter ads and trackers directly in apps as well as in the browser. My copy on my phone reports that since December of '22 when I installed it, it has blocked 3.7 million ads and 484,000 trackers, for a data savings of 169 GB.
myotherusernameismyotherusername
Blokada if you're on android, it blocks ads and trackers systemwide.
Drives11
DuckDuckGo browser, you don't need to use the browser but it comes with an app tracker blocker you can turn on
eeps
Shit. Thank you. I had that set up, but then had to replace my phone and forgot to turn on the app protection on the new phone.
SamaelQliphoth
I, too, would like to know
MeestowKitty
uBlock Origin
SamaelQliphoth
Already have it, so mission accomplished, I guess. Never seen it displayed like the above, though
khora
What better place to collect data on someone than their VPN?
Corrodias
I fear all that using a VPN would do is tell Google and everyone else that I use a VPN.
khora
The VPN egress points aren't unknown.
mmckee44
But if your neighbor has very risky behaviors that increase his risk for a claim while you don't, but you're both paying the same price for insurance, is that fair to the less risky homeowner? Same w/ car insurance
Now don't get me wrong, I know full well that insurance companies might charge them MORE w/out charging me less cuz it isn't about supply & demand, nor cost v profit anymore, when they set prices. Prices are set on the basis of what can they get away with. But that's a diff problem
SuperDrops
Translation:"I want others to suffer so I can feel better".
mmckee44
Not at all. I don't want to subsidize THEIR risky behavior with higher prices for my insurance.
onlyforn00ds
"It's fine because it doesn't negatively affect me." Yet.
mmckee44
Well, if their house burns down because they they used gasoline in a kerosene heater, both of which is illegal in my community, but the insurance company ignores it, and my rates go up because of another house fire, is that not negatively affecting me?
AsheLake
You’rebassuming the insurance company won’t just raise your rates anyway. There is no reason to think insurance companies would ever do anything to benefit you instead of themselves.
mmckee44
They aren't doing it to benefit you. They are doing it to market to you. To PRETEND to you that they are on your side.