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Sep 17, 2018 12:51 PM
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StevoReno
That dry euro humor just doesn’t get it...
IwentLookingForWhatTheBiggestIdiotHasToSayAndHereYouAre
bcaz urup
Maultasche
Raltsun
Pencildispencer
rainai
hellllllllll yeah
thejunhorde
Counterfeit meme is an absolute unit!
AzgarOgly
That's yesterdays joke. Not funny any more.
SarcasticComment
Throw it out like yesterday's jam!
AzgarOgly
Yeah, it was yesterday like 10 times on a frontpage in different variations. It's worn. //
AzgarOgly
People who repeat worn jokes are retarded. In a meaning that the world has moved on and they are still there with their worn jokes. //
AzgarOgly
And no, good old jokes are not worn, they are classic.
SarcasticComment
Overused meme!?!
JustARandomStrangerOnTheInternet
GOMAXLGO
Bullshit, you add automated software to detect copyright it won't know the difference.
TheShadowsLengthen
Directive 2001/29/EC, article 5 (k) make an exception to copyright laws for parody purpose. The new directive says that 2001/29/EC applies.
fluudify
Show me software so sophisticated it is able to detect parody.
TheShadowsLengthen
That's the thing. I read the new directive. It doesn't say "Filter at all costs !", it say to filter proportionaltely within 1/2
TheShadowsLengthen
...technological capability, and to take into consideration the type of content and means available. 2/2
Janusha
Not to let facts get in the way of internet-bullshit, but... This is 100% a non-issue. This isnt happening. Nobody is trying to kill Memes.
outomaisteri
Have you seen how Youtube's ContentID-system works? It doesn't care about Fair Use, because it's an algorithm. Imagine that, but everywhere.
TheFrenchGirl
It's for MONEYTARISED content. Are you receiving money by Imgur when you upload a meme?
Janusha
Dude. This is about rights-of-use issues for COMPANIES. For BUSINESS. Not for private people. The internet wont change.
Brassman94
are memes really illegal in europe
Brassman94
why do people have to make fun things not fun
TheFrenchGirl
1st, it's a directive, not a law, 2nd it's for MONETARISED copyrighted material. But you know, EU is bad and everybody knows that, soooo...
vampirehedgehog
No
PokemonNumber351
https://youtu.be/0SdDI1x0DGw here's a more qualified person talking about it.
Rifneno
Frozenpasties
Well we didn't tho, it's about copyright but memes fall under parody, which isn't illegal. *insert joke about uninformed americans*
Eleshar24
*joke about uninformed Americans*
FirstEdition
Automated copyright filters will likely ban a lot of "fair use" stuff because companies will rather be safe than sorry so they don't get sue
TheShadowsLengthen
Banning fair use would go against another EU directive, 2001/29/EC article 5. 2001/29/EC is mentionned as applying to the new Directive.
FirstEdition
how likely is it that Joe Schmo the meme maker sues imgur vs. a giant company? the sites will likely err on the side of favoring the company
FirstEdition
Just look at how youtube enforces copyright. They sometimes take down reviews because they show clips of the movie or game
kingloofa455
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5ZmVheuxpo This vid was created by someone threatened with "fair use" and does a great job explaining it
ViralLola
So I took a small sabbatical so I don’t know why people are doing this, can someone explain it to me?
Janusha
People are trying very, very hard to make us think that EU is fucking up our net freedom the same way americans gave away theirs.
Violetheart17
We didn't give ours away. It was taken by force despite the massive push to save it.
Janusha
Haha dude. I watched that stuff closely and there was virtually ZERO opposition. You, the flagwaving masses, didnt do shit.
Rivalyn
https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/12/17849868/eu-internet-copyright-reform-article-11-13-approved
bChrispy
Funny how much news people get from a picture site haha
richardson1701
Because they're stupid and didn't do enough research instead of listening to 4chan propaganda.
MegaBytePanda
Memes sorta now banned in the EU
richardson1701
No, they're not. Stop being stupid.
fnurglbhurg
Unless it's parody, then it's still OK.
Eldibs
"Memes aren't banned, they're just going to use an algorithm to protect copyrights, but not hurt fair use!" Because that works (1/2)
Eldibs
so fucking well for YouTube. They totally don't have all kinds of false positives resulting in bans. (2/2)
OrangeFlavours
they aren't, at all.
Dardaro
I think it's not about memes, is about copyright images
Janusha
Yeah exactly. Its a thing for businesses. Nothing is going to change for the average user. Its just over blown scare tactics.
oneoliner
Exactly it's about the images we use for memes. So effectively they're banning memes.
TheEmeraldProphylactic
Memes are actually protected by creativity laws, but this newfound creativity is equally welcome and hilarious
PopeHerman
Article 13 has just passed in the EU. With this it cracks down on copy righted material being used by anyone who doesn't own it
Frozenpasties
Again, memes fall under parody, which is legal regardless.
PowwerOrb13
Okay but how good are most automatic filters? Fucking YouTube still hasn't fixed theirs
Frozenpasties
Yeah the problem is ppl who voted for this shit don't know how the internet works. Like, at all.
PopeHerman
The sites that host the material are required to go though all of their material and block any copyrighted material. (2)
PopeHerman
Well for now no one knows if using a meme picture will be fair use, and the sites that host the image can be held responsible (3)
PopeHerman
So iust to avoid the headache all together sites will delete any unoriginal content. That's my rough knowledge on the situation
TheEmeraldProphylactic
You’re not entirely correct; EU creativity laws protect memes (just like using someone’s likeness in a newspaper comic/cartoon)
Asteroidrules
Well for now everyone who can read knows using a meme will be fair use because the article specifically says so.
PopeHerman
Ahh okay, I didn't know that. Thank you!
Navrodel
Good. Tell that to the filter. Problem solved. There's no evidence that filters ever misidentify fair use anywhere.