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Thank You @mistersavage for saying what needed to be said!!!
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twfeline
Commercial art really stuck with me. Lots of calligraphy. Jobs took calligraphy, and look what it did for him. I'm in hard drive R&D.
gusblack1
All public highschools I know of have shop and band though. Source~highschooler
BrokenAnimal
As a teacher, YES! THIS! Please do this! And make sure we fund it properly, so the schools actually have the space, materials, tools, instruments, and teachers to do it properly.
FilledChickenPen
My school still has band and shop... And we r a public school 2 b4 anyone asks
Archereus
I can say confidently that I have become much more intelligent seeking knowledge myself than learning it from school.
gorillaClutch
I was one of the last shop classes in my school I got so far ahead of everyone else I love working with my hands
hottpunkchick
But schools still have all that stuff right???
AskMeAbout3DPrinting
Why not teach kids skills and how to take tests. They'll need both anyway.
PapaTimDankopus
Oh except one thing @mistersavage , Football is more important apparently and thus all the money has to go to that instead. Wish I were-
PapaTimDankopus
in canada right now honestly.
Fialovich
Savage
AngeloMonharti
I was in band, my first year we had 44 students. My last year, there were 12. Band disappeared because kids stopped caring.
jrhawk42
I don't necessarily think schools need more vocational classes, but classes need to have more hands on experience.
theflyingnun
Band taught me a lot, though some of the lessons were quite painful.
ZachPutland
Something something the current school system values grades not learning
TheD4rkness
9Gag12YrOld
savage.
Styreta
Yea but that doesn't get the school any funding, in fact costs them alot of money. Whole system needs an overhaul :P
Corona688
Its true. All the best tools in our shop class were unusable due to lack of funding.
314159td
I had people in my high school engineering class that literally did not know how to use an Allen wrench or a flathead screwdriver.
twfeline
Don't get me started on Philips-head screwdrivers or Torx.
odysseus
What's "band and shop"?
AskMeAbout3DPrinting
Band as in concert, symphonic, orchestra, jazz etc... and shop is woodshop, autoshop, etc...
SteevyT
Marching....
AskMeAbout3DPrinting
Shoot man I was thinking band classes. My school didn't have a class for marching band.
SteevyT
My school and my university did.
swedishmetalhead
Adam Savage for president
imgonnaralph
my school had an electronics class where we learned how to read resistor colors and work on circuit boards most fun I had next to scienceLab
barnwolf
Reading resistor colors!? Wow that does sound fun.
Hanasakke
Same here. We also had metal fabrication class and woodwork class. Most fun i've had in school
IronRod
I learned all that, how to solder etc and now I can't remember any of it. I would love to relearn it all.
SteevyT
Soldering seems to be kind of like riding a bike. I'll not solder anything for a year or two, then need to do something and it works.
Armistice023
I suck at test taking, but damn it I can weld well
PissedOffLumberJack
Fuck yeah metal work for life!!!
ZeroNumerous
Well, one of those skills will get you a career. And it ain't the test taking one.
Leithoa
Bridges, pipelines, ships & buildings won't weld themselves.
wobbu
i am incredibly good at test taking and incredibly bad at everything else
bigblindguy
I bet you make more money than me then: I can fix anything, can work out interplanetary gravity transfers but cant take tests :C
wobbu
trust me. you lucked out.
absolutezero182
I suck at welding, but damn it i can test well
ishouldprobablybeplayingpokemonATM
How about welding tests, because welders need to RE certify all the time
Armistice023
Depends on the job. My job doesn't require certs. Just have to weld a quality bead
ishouldprobablybeplayingpokemonATM
The welders I work with make about 150,000 per year but need their certs up to date
Armistice023
Get me an application please. Thank you
ishouldprobablybeplayingpokemonATM
lol just need to join the UA local 179 and move to Saskatchewan
DickMangoes
I'm good with my hands and do tests well, but when it comes to writing, fuck it all.
PissedOffLumberJack
Handwriting? Cause I'm pretty much the same
DickMangoes
Handwriting and writing essays.
PissedOffLumberJack
Yeah I can do essays as long as I get to type. Fuck writing
HustonVogle
me too lol I can draw, weld, just about any thing crafty but when it comes to my hand writing you need 2 ciphers and a codex.
DickMangoes
I was taught cursive in grade 1, then nothing else from then on. My handwriting didn't improve much after that.
HustonVogle
I had cursive in 3rd and switch between it and print mid sentence a lot.
BasisPoints
So how did you do on your welding exam!? The world needs to know!!!
Armistice023
Well, passed the classes in HS and college. Never did an LA or AWS cert, so couldn't say there. Have only done practical certs
ThatGuyJayar
And get rid of the SATs. It proves nothing.
grantavius
Or have the sense to say it themselves, to their school superintendents!
Mitheledh
Teachers already know this. It's the politicians and bureaucracy that are fixated on tests and numbers and things that they can measure.
spudpicker
As a teacher, this is completely accurate. Do people think we LIKE giving tests?
brickweed
They already knew it since the 70s. Thats when we learned of ur studies and changed our school system according those; Now we're top ranking
brickweed
And we test too, but these tests have no actual effect, even if you get grades coz they are not recorded; Only one test matters at 18y/o. >>
brickweed
I am from Finland. I found a blog from an american teacher that moved 2 Finland & under this comment I will put my favourite posts from him
brickweed
http://taughtbyfinland.com/work-life-balance-in-finland-americans-on-a-different-planet/
brickweed
http://taughtbyfinland.com/the-finnish-teaching-strategies-id-bring-back-to-america4/
brickweed
http://taughtbyfinland.com/finlands-teachers-with-less-stress-and-more-free-time-collaborate-naturally/
brickweed
http://taughtbyfinland.com/how-finland-keeps-kids-focused-through-free-play/
brickweed
http://taughtbyfinland.com/when-american-boy-meets-finnish-girl/
spudpicker
Thank you! I almost went to Finland for my Masters degree because of your educational systems.
brickweed
Why you didn't come? :(
brickweed
PS. I also PM'd you the full list of my bookmarks from this blog, for some reason a lot of my links got deleted :(
NorthFever
As a teacher, I would love to see students graduate high school as fully assimilated citizens to function in society.
Fairyhaven13
That's what college should be for, as a transition between childhood and adulthood. Too bad a lot of colleges disagree...
thesejarsareforfartsonly
Liberal arts colleges...oh you're hear for a medical degree? Here take 5 core classes along with bio and chem AND two labs, because
thesejarsareforfartsonly
Philosophy and dance are important requirements for that. Also we get to fail you if you're overwhelmed and for some reason that's good
AllYourPeppermintAreBelongToMe
That would be excellent! I am 27 and still get treated like I am in grade school. Society needs to encourage maturation.
hottpunkchick
They should have a mandatory life course where they talk about adult things like taxes, car/health insurance, how to change a tire, etc
Sheex
I'd love to get the bureaucratic nightmare out of the classroom so that you have the freedom to do your job and actually teach kids.
RenamedUser
I may not have the specific knowledge but I graduated with the intellectual tools needed to to teach myself. I don't get why people complain
SatanicUnicornQueefs
Yeah when I graduated hs I was so lost and had no idea how to adult .....
Ilikeyogurt
Me too. I fucked up
FemaleINTJ
I got really lucky that my husband is good at adulting, otherwise i would have been lost.
LiterallyYourMom
Teach kids applied, hands on skills instead of reciting textbooks in general. Fewer lectures, more labs. Kids need tactile experience.
spudpicker
In my English classroom we simulate real-world environments: corporations, United Nations, zombie apocalypse, etc.
venomousduck78
Let's just make the tests easier so everyone does well. And then wonder why we fail compared to the rest of the world
IAmCatSidhe
The real question is what school did you go to that didn't even have band?
HackerJacker
Dunno, but I';m pretty sure my years in band did nothing for my ability to pass any test other than music.
PopatoMc
A music band? what?
NekoMiko06
Marching band style, but yes, music.
PopatoMc
Oh, we had a chourus
zeevo234
My school literally has a rock band, it's pretty cool
firehawkcultist
Many inner city schools across US cut band and other classes to save money (but magically afford new football jerseys every year)
LiamNeesonOfficial
I went to a magnet school. All I learned was too many dudes at a science high school. Lots of 4s strutting about like 10s
Aetherblade
I'm fairly sure that having a school band is a UK and US thing for the most part, certainly not in mainland Europe (afaik).
thomkemp
Mine didn't. Of course there was only 100 kids from 7th grade to 12th and people that might have been in band were playing sports.
AskMeAbout3DPrinting
Not one I'd ever want to go to.
ohboyohjeez
The sad truth is, due to budget cuts, band/orchestra and other music programs (In addition to art) have been cut.
JPre35
right?! that was my question..never even heard of a school that doesnt have band..
RavingChemistGuyScienceBitch
Philadelphia did not have any either, Philly public school anyways.
yournudesarewelcomedinmyinbox
Went to imhotep was lucky enough to get choir, African drum and dance and capoeira for extra curricular, wish we had shop tho
AntiWormMeasures
Michigander here. Lots of controversy here years ago about some schools losing music programs due to economy crash.
DirtyBirdofQuestionableGeometry
What is band and what is shop? As an European - I'm totally lost what those things even mean in this context.
Gilgamech
Want kids to care about parabolas in math class? Teach them rocket science.
Leithoa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gj8IA6xOpSk#t=9m18s Watch the whole thing if you can but I cut to the focus.
Mylity
Kerbal Space Program
SteevyT
Just give them Kerbal Space Program.
TheyHunger
And a link to Scott Manley's Youtube channel
barnwolf
First day of rocket science. Shit doesn't actually follow parabolas, because of relativity. :(
Gilgamech
See how much we learned?!?
Pundamentalist
Yeah it's not exactly roc... Wait, never mind...
Nuketified
You could teach them how parabolic flight paths are used to simulate zero gravity.
Gilgamech
Wait, what?
Nuketified
damn, I think they call that rocket science. Well shit.
IAmCatSidhe
physics
PartyParrot
Physics is just applied mathematics.
RenamedUser
Physics is why I love math classes.
starscape678
Yes, but there's also the part where you need to figure out what kind of maths you actually need.
valen00
As a space scientist can confirm
Krzyjoe
Or at least very basic projectile physics
RufusTheAardvark
But we can't seem to get them through Algebra and Geometry.
Leithoa
You can do rocket science w/ Algebra.
AzizLiiiiiiiiiiight
Agreed. Disproving people can be fun. Prove that the earth is round it's pretty simple. A lot of Internet conspiritards to prove wrong.
Gilgamech
Good point - get them interested in rockets, and teach them the equations, then teach them how they work.
AmorphousPorpous
Or give them Kerbal Space Program
RufusTheAardvark
And pray we don't run out of school year.
Gilgamech
It might take some kids 1 year to finish, and some kids 10 years. Then they go onto higher education.
herkapernikis
Careful, that's how Wernher Von Braun got started
amoeba15
And once you get him started he ends up in Alabama working on ways to send Ohioans to the moon.
Bunsen
And some day, these inspired, educated kids may complete his dream of getting rid of Ohio.
amoeba15
One can only hope.
TheyHunger
And makes Space Camp, just because.
amoeba15
Von Braun was dead before space camp began. He had the idea for it but it started five years after his death. 1
amoeba15
The Space and Rocket Center is the shit, though. On my folks lifetime membership so I get in free.