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VarlenSantongkum
But he was supposed to be worlds greatest deal maker!?!
Bizarkly
"Here's a tax reduction -- *suckers*..."
dj2718
This piece of garbage needs to be thrown out in November, and credited as the Worst President in the History of the United States.
ArsenalThePhoenix
i dont get all these trump bashing on imgur. 99% here are democrats so you're preaching to nobody that can change the outcome :S
Huntermen32
Well, most of if not all of Congress can't deal with congress like grown ups.
Freightshaker
* the trust funds, of which surpluses are used to supplement the national budget.
BillyBobtheBobbyBillyB
Cos he's a punk ass lil bitch
willconltd
Oh yeah, sure. Find me any millennial that thinks that they will actually see any Social Security money.
aronanon
As a small business owner, and I’m sure others will abuse this, he’s making it easier for me to keep my employees still employed...
aronanon
I have to match almost every dollar I pay in wages on taxes and this helps during the downturn, especially if it’s just covid temporary.
crossingdynasty
A win-win for Trump - if he gets elected he’s promising to get rid of it altogether, but if he loses it’s a time bomb for Biden. It’s shit.
Spacemaninorbit
Couldn't Biden just get rid of it himself if he won?
trustworthyfart
Not if he wants to keep his head.
thejohe
I used to be leaning mostly Republican until this idiot showed up, I can't clean the dirty off
mybestsobriquet
GODDAMNIT!!!!! STOP SAYING THIS IS A POLITICAL ISSUE!! It has NOTHING to do with your political ideology. It has EVERYTHING to do with the
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mybestsobriquet
Sorry for yelling.
mybestsobriquet
.01% demanding WE pay for THEIR lifestyle. EAT THE RICH! (Apologies for yelling, but gawd dammit when are we going to get on the same page?
Lobuttomize
Pretty sure congress is the one that can't make a deal with congress
TheFatherMind
Actually, this is 20/20. He is supposed to pay back the loan from social security they took out for the Iraq war this year.
TheEmptyChairOverThere
#vote gold
alfmeister6227
He does very little as a grown-up, let's be honest.
RectalPunchfromHell
Idk. Looks like my voice is being heard by my choices in 2016 and 2018 senators
CatsUpvoteTerror
We could just use the regular income tax to fund those instead of regressive tax like payroll they hits pooped people
ahbrannon1
If only the Senate had done their job and convicted him during the impeachment process we would not have this idiot today. Thank you GOP!!
bripi
Well, then we'd have Pence. The data on him ain't exactly sterling, either. This is a party of corrupt buffoons.
SirShmoopyofAwesomtown
Things would just get more jesus-y
volantredx
Trump also can't issue orders about taxes, that's literally Congress's cheif job. The President has no control over tax collection.
BESTtaylorINAUSTRALIA
I was under the impression, the president couldn't just change what they like, you had protocols in place. This fuck is proving that wrong!
HedonistBeard
Nah he isn't. He doesn't have the legal power to do this. If it actually happens it's because other people bent over for him. Vote them out.
samiksu
He is very experienced at bankruptcy.
nonCanadianGoose
TBF, the POTUS and Congress are rarely capable of making a deal like adults
Zyrixion
*the GOP are rarely capable of making a deal like adults. FTFY
tr26
Reagan and O’Neill, Clinton and Gingrich
josephfrancistribbiani
So 2 presidents then. I’d say that’s rare.
DonaldTrumpsFlaccidHairpiece
Bill Clinton and Newt Gingrich did well.
Toodamagedtocare
FUCK TRUMP AND ALL OF HIS THIEVING BUDDIES !! ???
TheGhostofCarrieFisher
Not ruling out Trump. You would have to include many sessions of congress. So many members of congress are straight up thieves.
dustbunny4u9
BAHAAAHAAAAA U GOT BIDEN ! Good luck with that one.
Toodamagedtocare
A chimpanzee could do better than the orange idiot !!?
Sporly
To a tea drinking Brit, I'll need this and the context explaining...
taterthotsfordinner
It’s a bit wonky due to hardline politics not giving in to anything, I think it’s time for a guillatine
Rovylern
ToastedVanilla
Not the gelatine!
kaelykat
The gelatin?
kaelykat
Guillotine?
Rovylern
StarscreamAndHutch
They should all be about a head shorter.
Hammertulski
Guile team?
Arcticstorm141
Gigotine?
MenloPart
Is that a thousand times as good as Ovaltine?
MercerSkye
Ovaltine?
CrisprCAS
Blücher!
Perkunas687
NEEEEEEIIIIIGH
Ernlyherp
Gelatine?
Pearlsnapshortsleevebuttondown
Mabelline
Metalice99
Mezzanine?
Schwebz
Bold to assume Social Security was going to be around in 20 years anyway.
Sprixxen
Good. It's a scam that only gets perpetuated because we're all held hostage since they have our money. I'd opt-out at a loss if I could.
WeAreAllStories86
I've always assumed I wouldn't get Social Security. It'll be gone looooong before I'm eligible, even if it's not sabotaged.
license2kilt
If they would stop dipping into it for everything else, Social Security would have been fine.
Freightshaker
They have to, it's law. All surpluses must be used to purchase government bonds.
TheGhostofCarrieFisher
Exactly. Congress voted many times to borrow from it and NEVER paid it all back.
Freightshaker
Voted?? It's law. All trust fund surpluses must be used to purchase government bonds.
arthurdent
Yeah, it's almost like there is a particular political party that has been making this a reality for decades.
texabilly71
...and its gone. been coming long before trump. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/22/us/politics/social-security-medicare-insolvency.html
princessgoldie
And yet everyone is complaining about the requirement that USPS fully fund their retirement pensions...
DraxusBane
Social Security should never existed. I’m a fucking adult. I can take care of my own retirement money. SS is nothing more than theft.
Hummingbroad
SS drastically reduced, and reduces, human suffering in this country. It's a shame that you resent that.
historyboeuf
Not everyone is able to have or afford a 401K etc it's a safety net. And if it was actually cared for you'd get your $ back, jerk.
FernRai
Right. So my grandmother, who's worked hard all her life, shouldn't be able to live? She scrapes by as it is. She's never worked an office>
FernRai
Job where she'd have any type of retirement plan. Even if the would've had savings her husband had problems with cancer for years and now >
FernRai
She has thyroid issues and autoimmune issues and she can barely afford those treatments with Medicare and SS. The selfishness holds us back.
tyrpestdeath
Yeah, I'm an adult as well and fixing to have to yeet my 401k because I'm unemployed and can't pay my bills on account of the pandemic, so.
deathsite99
U have a 401k?
AndrewCase
I’m an adult. I had more money put away for retirement than most families make in two lifetimes. Then my wife developed lupus. (1/)
AndrewCase
Now we need a stable Medicare system to just afford her monthly medication. And we need SS because she is unable to work. Fuck you.
Callistan
That’s great that *YOU* make enough money to save for retirement. Not everyone does. Should those individuals still have to work at age 90
Callistan
To buy food?
DraxusBane
You don’t understand how it works do you. They take YOUR money your entire life and then drip feed it back to you. Most people get way 1/2
DraxusBane
Less back than they put in. If they had that money all along they’d be in better financial shape.
justthissideofnormal
Meanwhile in 2012... https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2012/02/22/president-obama-signs-payroll-tax-cut
HolyCringeLordBatman
Signing a bill that went through congress is not an exec order, nor was that a DEFERMENT. DO you read or just autistically screech BUT OBAMA
justthissideofnormal
An Exec order or Congress impacts SS exactly the same. Math much?
jayphat
Here's the kicker: YOU STILL OWE IT. He's just deferring collection until 2021. What a lovely tax bill that will be.
saethone
He’s stated if he’s re-elected he’ll permanently end it
Wombatish
He'll try to get the Leg to permanently end it* He literally can't do it himself.
Wombatish
To not even touch the ridiculousness of ending it at all and the havoc it would wreak.
EroticZombiePants
Most companies probably won't bother deferring it anyway.
khora
Most companies will probably still deduct it, keep the money, and send it in at the end of the year.
sirava
If Republicans in power they'll pass Tax Reduction Uniting Many People act, "cutting taxes" by not collecting & say social security is broke
HeraldOfTheBadger
Well yeah. So Biden gets blamed
cheerfullittleaxolotl
That’s a f-ing dirty trick!
HighSorcerer
I am 100% sure that he is deferring it to 2021 so that, when he loses the election, the GOP can bitch about Biden making people pay more.
georgejimmydoodle
Everybody's taxes will go up after he's out of office. Another GOP shitpile theyll blame the Dems for.
broadsword8990
This is what happens when you give one branch of government too much power. There will always be someone who will use it to push an agenda.
YourMemeSucksHarderThanaDyson
Now he's promising if he's re elected he'll make it permanent..which I am conflicted about. As a millennial I have zero savings but.. /1
YourMemeSucksHarderThanaDyson
As a millennial I probably will never see a dime of the money I've paid into SS. So maybe fuck boomers? /End
TheFatherMind
Actually, this is 20/20. He is supposed to pay back the loan from social security they took out for the Iraq war this year.
TheNeub
Yeah. First thing I caught when he was talking. I don’t want my taxes deferred. It doesn’t help the people who need money
trainfanyay
Reminds me of my mortgage company generously offering loan forgiveness for 3 months (just so long as I pay 3m worth of payments at the end)
LurkerOfDarkness
So it's like the tax cut for all they made where the rich get to keep the cut, but everyone else gets a tax hike soon.
cmsport2
Yup. Its awful, but help yourself and elect to have more taxes taken out, if you can. I already did, now adding more. This sucks ass.
oblimo
Buuuut he said if we vote for him in November, he'll void the tax altogether! Hooray!
hogie4ever
I don’t think enough people noticed he said that. What a dick move.
SaraFourImgur
It's like a train wreck, watching him descend into full totalitarianism.
HillCountryRambler
Yep. It's a payroll tax DEFERRAL. It cannot be forgiven like Trump is claiming it can be. Guy's trying to pull the wool over our eyes.
Chakra5
TRYing? Dude has 40% of the country flummoxed,... bamboozled,... I'm saying he has these fuckups are wearing wool raybans man.
VielNiar
He is claiming that he will waive it if he gets re-elected. That is so fucking scum.
IDontWantANameGoAway
Hot take: He knows full well he's going to lose, he's just sabotaging it now to prep the propaganda machine for later, when they blame Biden
STGxDante
In the recession, still hasn't fully hit yet. It's going.to be Trump has gained ppl 1.8mil jobs, 33 mil lost. But if Biden wins it will be
STGxDante
Biden can't fix the economic collapse and fix the unemployment rate, only 1.8 ppl have hardly been able to find any jobs.
MrBoogerPig
Don’t let up, not in the bag. We must continue to push. My MIL will still vote for him but refuses to admit it in public. He has followers
Yakumae
MIL?
MrBoogerPig
Mother in law
Tryintodoalittlemore
Mother in law
CasioCalculatorConnoisseur
MIL = mother in law
Mindshard
That's the GOP's thing. Line up a bunch of bills to come due right before an election so they can convince their followers it wasn't them.
NotABadLookingNarcissist
Totally. Also pretending like the economy turns in a dime. Bush jr, inherited a booming economy and got credit for it. Tank the economy 1/
NotABadLookingNarcissist
2/ and they blamed it on Obama who just came into office. Then he spent 8 years trying to fix things (could’ve done a lot more) and trump
NotABadLookingNarcissist
3/ tried to take credit. Now trump is totally failing on the covid front-Set up all of our institutions to fail and guess who will be blamed
TastyBrainMeats
Right AFTER the election, even.
Ketheres
Yup. Take the credit for Democrat policies paying off, blame Democrats for GOP policies fucking shit up. And their fans believe it all.
Chakra5
and make bank,....always make bank
Nandabun
What are we owing? I feel like I missed something suddenly.
Mother0fCats
Taxes
Wombatish
Trump just signed an executive order to defer collection of the employee portion of payroll taxes through the remainder of 2020. The EO *c*
Wombatish
*c* does not forgive the obligation (because executive branch can't do that), it merely pushes it back to 2021. People will be surprised *c*
Wombatish
*c* that they owe a not insignificant amount of taxes. It also means the 'extra' money in paychecks right now isn't extra at all.
Spooner1
Possibly thousands for some... many hundreds for others in lower income brackets. In either case, impossible for the working class to pay
DepressedYetBlessed
But there are people failing now. So many need that money. This is on Congress. So they can now fix this new mess hopefully.
Spooner1
They still wont get any help from this. The companies will still keep the money, theyll just pay the tax bill at the end of the year. 1/
Spooner1
Corps withhold that money on behalf of the employee, which makes it the corps job to pay the bill
jayphat
The employee is responsible for paying it. Corps withhold it in accordance with IRS guides. This EO says they don't HAVE to withhold it.
ImplodingPumpkin
You know if Biden wins the election they're going to blame this on him.
GodTurkey
At least he would be president at that point so who cares if they blame him
DetectiveGaff
Which makes it important for people to make their families aware. Do not rely on the media for long term reminders on these things
STGxDante
I think day 1 Trump was being thanked for jobs going up. How stupid can ppl be to eat shit up like that?!
bripi
If Biden wins, he can undo many of the messes Trump made with his own executive orders.
honal
He's actually doing this because he thinks Biden cant because of the SC ruling that he cant end DACA with an executive order.
xj4low
And if Trump wins, this will get swept under the rug since all the other crap will continue coming out of his hole. It never ends.
ThomasThundersword
if trump wins it will still somehow be biden’s fault when the tax bill comes due. not sure how but i mean he still blames Hillary for shit