Read an article once about how scientists tried to simulate the most likely sound from some dinosaurs by their head shape and nose channels. That was cool.
We know things like the Parasaurolophus trumpeted, sort of like an elk, based on the resonating chamber connected to their sinuses through their head crest. They would have been heard from significantly farther away, though, since elk lack such a chamber but have a fair amount of range themselves.
Most dinosaur sounds used in media are either existing animal sounds or a composite thereof. Scientists do have some idea what they sounded like, but trying to be scientifically accurate in film would make it far less dramatic. They don't even use appropriate sounds for animals that are still alive now and we know exactly what they sound like.
we have an idea of what they sound like from the shape of their vocal chamber.... That said the Tyrannosaurus Rex from roar Jurassic Park is definitely a single trumpet from a baby elephant at the San Francisco Zoo played at various speeds.
I thought there was one they were able to recreate the esophagus or vocal cords from a cast and blow air through it. Am i thinking of something else maybe?
You are right, we have several scientific methods to know for very sure, how dinosaur sound like. Wen know for example how air flows through the tubes in fossils of skulls and what sound that makes.
There's estimates but those came later than the initial dino movie sounds, and every species probably sounded wildly different anyway, so the vast majority in games, move & other media are just fantasy
As an example, a lot of sounds from large *extant* animals are below the human range of hearing. It's quite probably we'd *feel* the sounds larger dinos make, as vibrations, but be unable to actually hear them. A lot of whale, elephant and even ex. elk sounds are too low for us to hear!
I'm unsure what this is trying to say-- From an academic perspective, dinosaur sounds are based on evidence, comparing dinosaur bodies to modern descendants (like a shoe horn bill). For fantasy sounds like in movies, they're usually warped from things like elephants & alligators. Mildly related: There's a guy in Seattle who owns 1 of the only 3 complete T-Rex skeletons ever found, just in his living room. Subscribe for more Dino facts.
a guy in Seattle... well there's like a metric butt-ton of millioinaires and billionaires there thanks to Aviation and Software industries. I bet his house is not just a 2800 sq ft single family dwelling.
His house might actually be between 3-4k sq ft, pretty sure it counts as a single family dwelling (no guest house, no exorbitant amount of bedrooms). He is absolutely a millionaire, though the skeleton was a gift (not a purchase). His house sits on Lake Washington and you can see the fossil from a boat, because that side of his house is all windows (presumably to show off the Dino lol).
So what kinds of sounds did large reptilian dinosaurs make then, based on the evidence? I have always thought it's unlikely they roared, since modern reptiles never do. I could believe hissing, or a sort-of honking, or bird-like calls for the avian types - but surely the roaring in films comes straight out of the human assumption that dangerous animals always roar because lions do in Africa, where we evolved.
The vast majority of evidence so far points to dinosaurs making bird-like coos, chirps, calls, etc. Their bone structure gets fascinating when you get down to the nitty gritty! The Seattle Burk Museum has one of the only complete T-Rex skulls for example, because their ""ears"" are so delicate + sensitive that they almost always break during the fossilization process. Here's a link to a study if you're interested: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33958471/
The Yixian Formation in Liaoning province of China has a fossil of two Tyrannosaurs who's bodies are ~suspiciously~ close together, likely mating. Its practically impossible tell the gender of a dinosaur, but this particular fossil suggests Tyrannosaurs had penises based on how the two were linked. The only other way for dinos to mate (that we know of) is through cloacas. Here's a fun article about it. https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220629-the-strange-search-for-dinosaur-genitals
You know theres the saying died doing what they loved, but that bro (Bros? Gay dino bros maybe?) Dino fucking embodied it to the extent creation itself had to honor his existence for millions of years
Thank you for subscribing to Dinosaur Facts! Did you know that dinosaurs showed up during the Triassic period, shortly (comparatively speaking) after the Great Dying? This Permian-Triassic event was Earth's most severe extinction (see graphic), and while we know this event had overlap with diapsids (group dinosaurs belong to), so few fossils have been found that how The Great Dying affected dinosaur evolution is still an active point of research.
In summary, nearly every living organism on Earth ~DIED~, the precedent of which have never been seen since, and one of the few animals that managed to survive evolved into the dinosaurs... However, there is so little information/evidence available that we don't quite know how the dinosaurs evolved or to what impact the Great Dying had on them or their ancestors.
harthram
We, as a people, have a general consensus on pterodactyl sounds. Can't agree on anything else, but pterodactyl sounds... we good.
CplCarrot
T-Rex's chirped.
XeononSolomon
Pretty sure for at least one of them maybe an Ankylosauria member they found and recreated a vocal box.
TohmaytohTohmahtoh
IlluminaBlade
Isn't the T-Rex noise most people know just the hydraulics of a flight simulator?
RevolutionOnHerLips
xXStillTimeXx
You should hear my Dragon voice when I read my kids bedtime stories.
HandoB4Javert
Did your imaginary girlfriend tell you that?
MustHailSagan
thoushaltnotpass
That's actually a genuine complex scientific problem
C141Clay
emptyother
Read an article once about how scientists tried to simulate the most likely sound from some dinosaurs by their head shape and nose channels. That was cool.
WeAreNotSmilesTImes
sarzaya
I can hear this on mute
Nikolai5
I believe Jeff Goldblum is some ancient eldritch terror. My proof? Watch anything of him in it and tell me I'm wrong.
Skr121
ALAN
aThingWithTheStufAndTheJunk
The velociraptor "barking" noises in Jurassic Park is a recording of tortoises fucking.
4vie
.... I did not need a reminder of what that sounds like, as I've actually heard it from a video. Thank you for the reminder. :(
coreydeangibson6
The t-rex gobbled
PrincessFlufflebutt
What if they sounded like bass boosted birds?
ceraxis
What would a 10k # Rooster sounds like?
mcneelyj
They made a song about what a fox sounds like too…
Mmbear
What if dinosaurs moo’d? You weren’t there, you cant tell me they didn’t.
Raileks
Birds are descended from dinosaurs so its more likely they sounded like " U WNT SM FK?"
PhailRaptor
We know things like the Parasaurolophus trumpeted, sort of like an elk, based on the resonating chamber connected to their sinuses through their head crest. They would have been heard from significantly farther away, though, since elk lack such a chamber but have a fair amount of range themselves.
Hanatash
Most dinosaur sounds used in media are either existing animal sounds or a composite thereof. Scientists do have some idea what they sounded like, but trying to be scientifically accurate in film would make it far less dramatic. They don't even use appropriate sounds for animals that are still alive now and we know exactly what they sound like.
ShieldAnvil1
we have an idea of what they sound like from the shape of their vocal chamber.... That said the Tyrannosaurus Rex from roar Jurassic Park is definitely a single trumpet from a baby elephant at the San Francisco Zoo played at various speeds.
Aeddibaer
goflyblind
AGiantSlor
I thought there was one they were able to recreate the esophagus or vocal cords from a cast and blow air through it. Am i thinking of something else maybe?
teredrin
You are right, we have several scientific methods to know for very sure, how dinosaur sound like. Wen know for example how air flows through the tubes in fossils of skulls and what sound that makes.
Feralkyn
That's for one or two species, and even then is a "best guess."
Feralkyn
There's estimates but those came later than the initial dino movie sounds, and every species probably sounded wildly different anyway, so the vast majority in games, move & other media are just fantasy
Feralkyn
As an example, a lot of sounds from large *extant* animals are below the human range of hearing. It's quite probably we'd *feel* the sounds larger dinos make, as vibrations, but be unable to actually hear them. A lot of whale, elephant and even ex. elk sounds are too low for us to hear!
Inkfinger
Some researchers have worked out an approximation of what a t-rex may have sounded like and I have to admit, it sounds terrifying.
Hashbrown123
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darthrecluse
That is so much more horrifying than the JP roar
emptyother
So we don't know for sure they couldn't speak English?
RummageSaleBubbler
Non-avian dinosaurs, I assume. Cause I've heard dinosaurs... @BotDrawA Loud :BIRD:, { singing to his people, flying, next to my ear }
BotDrawA
@RummageSaleBubbler Here's your drawing of a "Loud Canada Warbler, next to my ear"
BotDrawA
@RummageSaleBubbler Here's your (experimental extra) drawing of a "Loud Ovenbird, singing to his people, with wolves howling at the moon"
BotDrawA
@RummageSaleBubbler Here's your (experimental extra) drawing of a "Cover for the book, "Loud Pale-heade Rosella, next to my ear""
RummageSaleBubbler
That's some really good text. The words are wrong, but letters and placement look great.
BotDrawA
@RummageSaleBubbler Here's your (experimental extra) drawing of a "Loud Black-Capped Chickadee, flying, inside a plane"
BotDrawA
@RummageSaleBubbler Here's your drawing of a "Loud Gastornis, flying"
BotDrawA
@RummageSaleBubbler Here's your drawing of a "Loud Ovenbird, singing to his people"
TalleyZorah
I'm unsure what this is trying to say-- From an academic perspective, dinosaur sounds are based on evidence, comparing dinosaur bodies to modern descendants (like a shoe horn bill). For fantasy sounds like in movies, they're usually warped from things like elephants & alligators. Mildly related: There's a guy in Seattle who owns 1 of the only 3 complete T-Rex skeletons ever found, just in his living room. Subscribe for more Dino facts.
doesntmatter
Technically that sounds more like a deading room at thay point
JackieTreehornProductions
a guy in Seattle... well there's like a metric butt-ton of millioinaires and billionaires there thanks to Aviation and Software industries. I bet his house is not just a 2800 sq ft single family dwelling.
AkuTheShapeShiftingMasterOfDarkness
Having triesto buy a house in the same county recently, it might be.
Colopty
Though the idea of some random guy keeping a complete t-rex skeleton in his small apartment and refusing to get rid of it is certainly entertaining.
TalleyZorah
His house might actually be between 3-4k sq ft, pretty sure it counts as a single family dwelling (no guest house, no exorbitant amount of bedrooms). He is absolutely a millionaire, though the skeleton was a gift (not a purchase). His house sits on Lake Washington and you can see the fossil from a boat, because that side of his house is all windows (presumably to show off the Dino lol).
TalleyZorah
Update: His house has been featured elsewhere and called a mansion, so there you go! Realty clearly isn't my specialty lol.
Hengabecka
So what kinds of sounds did large reptilian dinosaurs make then, based on the evidence? I have always thought it's unlikely they roared, since modern reptiles never do. I could believe hissing, or a sort-of honking, or bird-like calls for the avian types - but surely the roaring in films comes straight out of the human assumption that dangerous animals always roar because lions do in Africa, where we evolved.
TalleyZorah
The vast majority of evidence so far points to dinosaurs making bird-like coos, chirps, calls, etc. Their bone structure gets fascinating when you get down to the nitty gritty! The Seattle Burk Museum has one of the only complete T-Rex skulls for example, because their ""ears"" are so delicate + sensitive that they almost always break during the fossilization process. Here's a link to a study if you're interested: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33958471/
breals
That guy is Nathan Myhrvold, he worked for Microsoft and is now a lead patent troll. He’s also a billionaire with a huge mansion.
TalleyZorah
Oh, that is him! He's definitely an eccentric guy, loves dinosaurs in general. His office has some interesting Jurassic Park memorabilia.
jonalexassblast
Give me a sexually explicit fact about dinosaurs.
Colopty
Dinosaurs had sex
TalleyZorah
The Yixian Formation in Liaoning province of China has a fossil of two Tyrannosaurs who's bodies are ~suspiciously~ close together, likely mating. Its practically impossible tell the gender of a dinosaur, but this particular fossil suggests Tyrannosaurs had penises based on how the two were linked. The only other way for dinos to mate (that we know of) is through cloacas. Here's a fun article about it. https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220629-the-strange-search-for-dinosaur-genitals
LizzyTheEdgy
You know theres the saying died doing what they loved, but that bro (Bros? Gay dino bros maybe?) Dino fucking embodied it to the extent creation itself had to honor his existence for millions of years
jonalexassblast
Oh but they were just "friends"
TalleyZorah
"with benefits"
tenaka30
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TalleyZorah
Thank you for subscribing to Dinosaur Facts! Did you know that dinosaurs showed up during the Triassic period, shortly (comparatively speaking) after the Great Dying? This Permian-Triassic event was Earth's most severe extinction (see graphic), and while we know this event had overlap with diapsids (group dinosaurs belong to), so few fossils have been found that how The Great Dying affected dinosaur evolution is still an active point of research.
Brownie19
I don't quite follow this - but it's still fascinating!
TalleyZorah
In summary, nearly every living organism on Earth ~DIED~, the precedent of which have never been seen since, and one of the few animals that managed to survive evolved into the dinosaurs... However, there is so little information/evidence available that we don't quite know how the dinosaurs evolved or to what impact the Great Dying had on them or their ancestors.
tenaka30
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