You gotta luv the Air Force...

Jan 5, 2019 12:17 PM

pabrai

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Retired AF here and I can confirm 100% true!

7 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 1

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"You know, you guys could have the nice stuff too, if you ever bothered to fill out the paperwork" - AF guys

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

v as an Active duty Air Force member

7 years ago | Likes 90 Dislikes 3

As a Marine, “we at better than you, and we know it”.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Yah know when my room mates make fun of me for wearing a bath robe. All I can hear is the complaining of someone without a bath robe.

7 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

you made your choice, live with it.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Former Air Force...can confirm.

7 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 1

Never Again Volunteer Yourself

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

There’s a reason I signed on the blue line and not the green one.

7 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Sucks to suck bruh

7 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 2

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7 years ago | Likes 674 Dislikes 0

Just your average "Freestyle Friday".

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

And later that evening....

7 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

Why is this a thing. I feel like if you go back far enough it'll just be a Top Gun extra with a lot to answer for.

7 years ago | Likes 35 Dislikes 1

And everything to prove

7 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 0

I think he's RSAF.

7 years ago | Likes 55 Dislikes 0

*ROKAF?

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Republic of Singapore Air Force. Looks like their uniform.

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

It is! This is from the base I'm stationed at. Mountain Home AFB. We have a unit here for training RSAF pilots and ground crews.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Oh no shit? Haha small world. I'm stationed there too but currently overseas.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

My AF unit deployed with an army unit to an R+R base. The army unit was given the choice to stay in dorms but chose tents. We didn't.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Also most service members I meet express remorse that they didn't chose the Air Force. Including marines. Just one big pissing contest.

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

And yet I can barely get my email to load correctly on a base that is mainly intel...

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Sounds like WPAFB.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Chair force.

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 2

Swivel Chair Patrol

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

A former AF friend said “hey, we send our officers to war”

7 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Hmm, Navy does that too...

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

...while sitting on a big boat and ordering around the enlisted men.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

This is something I give the AF a ton of credit for. In the corps (and I'm sure the army too) everybody loves a leader who puts their 1/2

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

ass on the line with their people. In the AF they go get shot at while the junior guys stay someplace safe. 2/2

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I've served numerous combat lines with a multitude of USAF enlisted aircrews. I'll put them up against our AF officers any day.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

AF builds their base housing, recreation, shopping & comfort areas, then go, oh yeah, we need somewhere to land planes

7 years ago | Likes 35 Dislikes 2

1st, is the area able to have a nice golf course?

7 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

Patrick AFB, in the 80s, needed to extend the runway, but decided not to as it would cut into the golf course.

7 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

There's HUNDREDS of runways man, how many really nice gold courses you got? :D

7 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

*golf

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Usually, we have one world-class golf course at each base, a few have two or more!

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Coming from a military family, this had me laughing.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Death by power point!!!!!

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

What about the space force though?

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

It's still happening, although at this point it most likely will be a sub-service of the USAF instead of an entirely separate service.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

And coast guard isn't on there b c they aren't even getting paid right now lol

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yeah. Sucks.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Coastguard is DHS, not DoD.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Coast Guard still isn’t getting paid though

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

They will get back paid with all benefits.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It hurts because it’s true

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Air Force: when you want to serve your country but have delicate sensibilities.

7 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 8

or an IQ over 80.

7 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 4

Didn't you read? He said if you "want to serve your country". No one with an IQ over 80 falls for that trap.

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 8

I was joking and I hope you are too.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

No shame here. The Air Force has been good to me and my family. I don't envy the poor suckers in the other branches.

7 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Comms is always down

7 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

I understand you want to get on Facebook, but the power has been out for 8 hours, Sir.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

This one time at KKMC the Dining Facility's freezers went out and had to eat steak & lobster for a week. We were able to get hardship pay.

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I am the only guy that doesn't claim all the stuff "Im entitled to"? I'm not judging but I just let it ride, life is short. PS I'm broke :)

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

are*

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

"Are" would imply Comm's SYSTEM is down. "Is", implies the Comms as a unit is down. The Comm unit usually is down.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

unless you are operating on a platform with multiple comms capabilities (UHF, VHF, HF, ICE, CINCGARS, HAVEQUICK, J-VOICE).

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

i could go on-and-on. Also, most missions consider comms as mission-essential equipment. Meaning they are almost always up to launch.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Comm unit's Equipment, facilities, and personnel are very high on a strike list. As a Commander, we routinely train to run operations 2/

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Can confirm, my father earned his NATO Balkans medal staying in a 4* hotel in southern Italy!

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

4 stars? That's it? During Allied Force, it was 5 star or nothing!

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

We're British, RAF doesn't have the same budget as USAF ;)

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

As a 30yr USAF EWO (ret) I've worked closely with the RAF on numerous occasions. You guys made me truly understand Oliver Twist.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Fun fact about the air force. All the millions of extra dollars they spend on comfort is saved in maintenance because happy pilots both

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

make fewer mistakes and tend to be less hard on their equipment. Same thing with bored vs entertained pilots.

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Happy AF pilot here, can confirm

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

As an AF EWO (ret), I'd be glad to help you with some of the bigger words they use on this site.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

In the UK it’s about stars navy navigate by them army sleep under them and Air Force choose hotels by them !

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

The RAF isn't taught how to use Travelocity? How tragic.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

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7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The only punks downvoting this are airforce people, or coasties cuz they got left out lol.

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 3

Air force here, coasties are actually fucking badass.

7 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

"coasties" are the ones running in to save you when god himself wants to dead. don't be dissin'

7 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 3

Is it true that the US Navy has to put training wheel on the ships before it gives them to the Coasties?

7 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Maybe, but the CG doesn't wear blindfolds when driving *cough* USS McCain, USS Fitzgerald *cough*

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Yes, and we keep the submarines to ourselves

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Air Force also drops food and supplies to all AOR locations... sooo thank them for testing hire on asvap

7 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 4

also its 'higher' not 'hire'....and is 'ASVAB' not 'ASVAP'. I hope you now thoroughly feel like a dipshit

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 3

Lol fat finger and yes higher. Didn’t read through it after. I guess that makes the point untrue

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

you dont say "AOR locations"...we just say "AOR's".

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

I served eight years, I’m apart of “we”

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

you're not currently serving and passing information that makes you sound ignorant. So ill use 'you'. Sorry not sorry.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That sounds dumb in itself..

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

what sounds dumb is you 'fat fingering' three times in one post, and then saying "I'm apart" instead of "I'm a part". Seriously. read a book

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

And you’re the shit head that sucked the e-7’s dick while the rest of us did our job.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Wrong. Don't be upset because you sound uneducated on the subject.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Lol that means I’m right

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

no, just uneducated lmao

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All the other service members are just mad they were too stupid to realize the AF is the best job in town.

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Only reason I went navy instead of air force was because the AF recruiter was never there. Would have if I could

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Best benefits

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Literally the exact same benefits...

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The other branches like to talk shit, might even be right, but i for sure will tell anyone interested if you can get airforce, get airforce

7 years ago | Likes 93 Dislikes 1

Yeah, if you're lucky enough to catch em in their recruiting offices! XD

7 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

They arw always there so long as the6 arent at breakfast, brunch, lunch, smoke break, drink break, afternoon snack break or naps

7 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

The Air Force recruiter in my town was never in their office- they upgraded to the far end office which is bigger. Still MIA!

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

"huurr duuur you are too stupid for the AF!!" but for real join the AF if you have a chance

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Marine here, our C-5 broke down on the way to Guam, and the AF put us in a 4 star hotel on the beach because they didn't want us on base.

7 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 1

I think that's because the cleaning crews have a lot of pull. They don't want to spend all that time cleaning the lick marks off the windows

7 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 0

Hahaha, that's solid

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

So funny

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Active AF Here, and I believe it. Back in tech school, we had one dorm for marines at Keesler. They were always trying to fuck our 1/2

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female airman, but *most* of the females knew better. The ones that didn't, regularly participated in marine gang bangs. Good times I hear.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Keesler sucked so much. I had one of the longest tech schools there for radar. 8 months there was worse than the 6 in Kandahar.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

7 Months at Keesler, here! RF Transmissions. Currently Wireless Comm and CommSec Specialist. I loved Keesler!

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

My brother in law started as a MP in the Army. Immediate regret according to him. Re enlisted with AF after his contract ended with the Army

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

loves his job. He is the loadmaster on C130 I believe.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Was in a joint command for a while. They do seem to take care of each other a little bit better

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After 9 years USAF, I can honestly say I only ever met 2 good leaders enlisted side. It was cut throat, undercutting and high school drama

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Speaking as a Navy MPRA Flight Officer.....not even close, bud lol

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RCAF AVN Tech here. Fuckyeah. Lol

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Why is there such a discrepancy between branches?

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Because we care about each other and show it in weird ways

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I mean, why does the air Force have better resources than the other branches?

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When I was 18 I wanted to be tuff and join the infantry. 6 years later, I wish I would have joined the air force.

7 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

exactly what I was thinking

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Prior Soldiers and Marines are our best recruiters lol

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Former Army infantrymen, I tell people to go airforce. The Army is a joke and clown college.

7 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

I never understood the culture of bragging about how shitty you have it. I have all my limbs, no ptsd. I'm glad I joined the air force

7 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 1

I used to manage all Air Force recruiters in the Bay Area. We’d always have parents from other branches bring their kids into our offices

7 years ago | Likes 44 Dislikes 1

oh my god this gave me flashbacks of when my dad would bring me to his air force office as a child. most boring shit on the planet for a kid

7 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

Seems reasonable. I fly, but when I’m at the office I’m writing memorandums or reports.

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Marine recruiter. I never tell a kid dont do Airforce. For the specific reason i know the quality of life is drastically better.

7 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 2

Unless you get sent to Minot...

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Why not Minot!

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Because it is fucking cold there? (I'm from northen Sweden BTW, I got relatives in GF thanks to the AFB)

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2// 1)"At what base should we place this guy?". 2) "Hey I know, why not Minot!"

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Why Not Minot, is a running joke about the assignments office chucking people out there. Few people who serve on Minot ever enjoy it.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Didn't know that, I served my time in the Swedish airforce at our northernmost base, so I hate cold places

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You’re absolutely right...so long as all you’re looking for is benefits/checking the “I served box” and quality of living.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

YEAH MARINES

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"We all fuck with each other, but if you fuck with us we'll fuck you up."

7 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 2

6 years in the army, absolutely accurate.

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Army here and I do reccomend the AF. But yea fuck those guys

7 years ago | Likes 59 Dislikes 2

Sorry man i know our shittiest buildings on base would be yalls nicest

7 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

Kunsan 08. USAF condemned a dorm because of HVAC issues, and the Army unit immediately took it over and occupied it. You speak truth.

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AF was getting hazard pay on a joint base I was at because it wasnt up to standard or some shit. Fuckers.

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Isn't Airforce hard to get tho?

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Asvab above 45 and no dui's don't have to be smart

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Since everyone wants to go USAF they have a much bigger pool to choose from, so they are a bit more choosy. But i wouldn't say hard.

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no

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You have to get a much higher score on your entrance exams.

7 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

When I joined AF and Navy had the same score requirement. It was just a 50/100

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Not really. It's a 50 to get in.

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ASVAB req. AF 36, Navy 35, Army 31 and Marines 32 if applicant has diploma. With GED it is a 50 for all except AF which req a 65.

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As a USAF officer (ret)of 30 years, I've witnessed long durations where the USAF will turn away GED applicants. We can be picky.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Well the minimums for the asvab are higher (military s.a.t.). Easy enough to get a good score on for someone with high enough int for colleg

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Higher ASVAB test scores, prefer college grads and good credit scores over the other branches.

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Asvab score of 50, no college preference though the credit score is bang on

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

9yr Marine vet. I recommend the AF to family or friends interested in joining.

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Sounds like if diabetes hadn't stopped me my air force plans growing up would've been a good choice.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

The "chair force", I've heard it called.

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Ex-Army. That’s my advice to everyone as well.

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My biological father is retired USMC and my stepdad did 4 and out. Both told me to go AF. Always been grateful for that shared advice.

7 years ago | Likes 67 Dislikes 0

As a Navy vet I also recommend the AF to anyone thinking of joining the military

7 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 0

Same same

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You’re not the only one.

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I love the Corps, but the AF has so many more opportunities, duty station locations, and if you want to get out your skills are marketable.

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But doesnt it require all to be pilots or at least train 2 successfully fly a plane? R there jobs like mechanics who don't know how 2 fly

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Only officers are allowed to fly planes, though they did just start a program for enlisted to start flying drones a couple years ago.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That’s like saying you can only work for Delta if you are a pilot. There’s a massive organization that supports and maintains operations.

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Unless you are security forces

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You think a security forces member can’t get a job? You must be joking. The PD’s salivate over 3P vets.

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Me too. The ones who ended up in the af have always thanked me for it.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I wanna join teh AIR FORCE

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Man your challenger must be getting old

7 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

Just for quality of life? If you have a specific MOS in mind it may trump that though, yeah?

7 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

AF as a whole has excellent training, excellent quality of life, and excellent duty stations. Compared to the Marine Corps.

7 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Interesting. I've heard some training horror stories from an Army buddy, but he's reserves so I wasn't sure if that was why.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Generally it's an easier enlistment. On the mind and body.

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MOS means a lot! I only had 2 options for duty stations. I chose Hawaii.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Genuine question: Why? Is it more safer? Glamorous? Better remuneration?

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Most things are just better. That's it.

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Better food, better bases/amenities, job skills more likely to carry over to civilian life, slower promotion rates though, generally.

7 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

The marines are actually saying "in the event you lose your crayons a window will suffice"

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Had to explain to one of my Marines the other day that the microwave wasn't in Metric time even though we're in Japan.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Idk if I’d go to AF for the office position, army for quick promotion, or marines cause I’ve eaten many crayons. Navy is just bleh

7 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

You’re just jealous because we hate ourselves and deal with gay stuff (navy vet)

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7 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

This is a communications lesson not a field survival lesson.

7 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

More like: sometimes in battle, your comms may begin functioning well, don't let it throw ya, they'll fail again before you need them

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

, requiring new crypto

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Did you know that if a Marine can eat a full 128 pack and pronounce each color correctly, it's an automatic promotion to 2Lt...

7 years ago | Likes 96 Dislikes 0

Marine Lt Cols step up to oil paints with names like "Cadmium Yellow" and "Cerulean Blue". They consider this "cultured" for society.

7 years ago | Likes 29 Dislikes 0

Good thing that flake white isn’t too common anymore. Otherwise they’d have even more brain damage.

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You know how the military tends to skimp on money usage on some stuff and buy cheap stuff in excess? Yeah, they have enough of that stuff to

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

feed the entire country with it for the next few decades.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Or yellow cake

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Can confirm, was the final FEX prior to commissioning.

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That’s how my brother passed OCS

7 years ago | Likes 38 Dislikes 0

We eat what we can, when we can :)

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Have you see what they put in MRE's? Sometimes you're better off with the crayons

7 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

I’ve eaten my fair share...

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Nothing in an eternity of suffering in hell could prepare you for the "omelet with ham" MRE.

7 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I always say. If it can't stop me from eating it, i'm allowed to eat it.

7 years ago | Likes 58 Dislikes 0

That's not a bad rule to live by. Works for my dog and seems happy

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

If no one comes back in time to stop me, how bad of a decision could it really be?

7 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 0

If life give you lemons, eat the shit out of them.

7 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Not that I'd agree with your statement, but you're thinking of "ass" not "lemons".

7 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Should get better...i hear Jodie is better at eating your girl.

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More like "your rifle works and you have ammo. Heres some shit from Vietnam. Make the grass grow."

7 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

Well put

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Green tastes the best

7 years ago | Likes 76 Dislikes 1

*fuscia

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Red best.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

So Marines have a reputation for being brave and dumb?

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Pretty much. It's a long running joke that we eat tasty, tasty crayons.

7 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Mostly, I think they spread the rumor themselves so that their enemies, and maybe their allies, will underestimate them. Every marine 1/2

7 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

2/2 I've ever known was smart as hell, and tricky too. Stupid people don't survive long in the military, especially the marines.

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